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Phoebe rushes into Central Perk to tell the gang all about a woman who was close to her mother. \"They were like BFF,\" she says, casually. The gang stares at her, bemused by the term. \"Best friends forever,\" Phoebe is forced to clarify. It was neither a hilarious moment, nor one that made immediate waves, but 13 years later, the term had become so entrenched in our everyday verbiage, it was \u003ca href=\"https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">added to the Oxford English Dictionary\u003c/a> as a noun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It wasn't the only time \u003cem>Friends\u003c/em> left a permanent mark on our language. \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=4pnMWvbFpS8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"The friend zone,\" \u003c/a>a concept that has since been embraced and distorted by men's rights activists, arrived in the first season, as Joey explained to Ross why it was too late to ask Rachel out. And \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSCV5wUOFE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"going commando,\"\u003c/a> while already an obscure term, was popularized much more widely in the episode when Joey wears all of Chandler's clothes without wearing underwear:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSCV5wUOFE\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>While the speedy spread of new slang makes perfect sense in the age of social media, it's much harder to fathom how TV shows once pulled off the same feat all by themselves. Catchphrases are one thing—they're used week in, week out until they're universally understood by the public (see: \"\u003ca href=\"https://bigbangtheory.fandom.com/wiki/Bazinga\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bazinga!\u003c/a>\" \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Na-Nu%20Na-Nu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Na-nu na-nu!\u003c/a>\" \"\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Urkel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Did I do that?\u003c/a>\" etc.)—but single episode phrases that stand the test of time are something of an anomaly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The show most frequently credited for this is \u003cem>Seinfeld, \u003c/em>thanks to a writing team led by Larry David that was fundamentally committed to coming up with compact, snappy terms to describe problems and life irritants that were universally relatable. These phrases were written into scripts so smoothly, \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em>'s audience instantly understood—and latched onto—concepts like \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGVSIkEi3mM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">close talkers\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKWYg9qFOpA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">low talkers\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKQFjHDk32E\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">sidlers\u003c/a> and even \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLQOQNVzgY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Soup Nazis\u003c/a>. Most remarkably of all though, it was \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> that gave us a word for \"regifting\"—a concept so popular now, Colorado has been celebrating \"National Regifting Day\" every December 18th since 2008.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VGbY6sirHM\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>20 years after it went off the air, other gifts from \u003cem>Seinfeld \u003c/em>continue to get recycled. Last year, country singer Brandon Lay released a track titled \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaRrVtZSwvU\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"Yada Yada Yada.\"\u003c/a> \"Festivus\" merch remains so popular, \u003ca href=\"https://www.etsy.com/market/festivus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Etsy has a dedicated section\u003c/a> for it. And makers of female contraceptives have a \u003ca href=\"http://www.todaysponge.com/spongeworthyclub.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">membership club called \"SpongeWorthy,\"\u003c/a> named after Elaine's term for a man attractive enough to use her limited supply of sponges on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, there are plenty of other shows that have left a mark on American slang. Police officers wouldn't be referred to as \"Five-O\" if it wasn't for 1970s \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/?ref_=nv_sr_2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">cop show, \u003cem>Hawaii 5-O\u003c/em>\u003c/a>; we wouldn't have the term \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvGopsM1G9g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"jumping the shark\"\u003c/a> if it wasn't for that ridiculous \u003cem>Happy Days\u003c/em> episode; and—fun fact!—email spam was \u003ca href=\"http://mentalfloss.com/article/556977/words-and-phrases-that-came-from-tv-shows\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">named after the \u003cem>Monty Python\u003c/em> skit\u003c/a>, in which no one can get a word in for all of the \"spam\" references. The difference is, these were all terms invented by the public in reference to shows rather than lifting language straight out of episodes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When they were on the air, \u003cem>Friends\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> averaged between 21 and 24 million viewers per episode. The only sitcom to consistently come close to that since is \u003cem>The Big Bang Theory \u003c/em>(18-20 million). Comedy shows considered big hits in between—the likes of \u003cem>How I Met Your Mother\u003c/em>, \u003cem>The Office\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Parks and Recreation\u003c/em>—averaged about a quarter of that. With the decline and splintering of TV viewership, thanks to the plethora of new ways to watch and a vast array of content to stream, the kind of influence once wielded by sitcoms is a thing of the past. The linguistic gifts from \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Friends, \u003c/em>though, will stay with us forever.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Friend zone, BFF and yada yada wouldn't mean anything to us without 'Friends' and 'Seinfeld.'","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1622111164,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":9,"wordCount":687},"headData":{"title":"How 'Friends' and 'Seinfeld' Changed the Way We Talk - KQED Pop","description":"Friend zone, BFF and yada yada wouldn't mean anything to us without 'Friends' and 'Seinfeld.'","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"108851 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=108851","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2019/03/26/how-friends-and-seinfeld-changed-the-way-we-talk/","disqusTitle":"How 'Friends' and 'Seinfeld' Changed the Way We Talk","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","path":"/pop/108851/how-friends-and-seinfeld-changed-the-way-we-talk","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>In May 1997, there was a throwaway comment in an episode of \u003cem>Friends\u003c/em> that somehow got itself permanently stamped into the lexicon. Phoebe rushes into Central Perk to tell the gang all about a woman who was close to her mother. \"They were like BFF,\" she says, casually. The gang stares at her, bemused by the term. \"Best friends forever,\" Phoebe is forced to clarify. It was neither a hilarious moment, nor one that made immediate waves, but 13 years later, the term had become so entrenched in our everyday verbiage, it was \u003ca href=\"https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bff\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">added to the Oxford English Dictionary\u003c/a> as a noun.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It wasn't the only time \u003cem>Friends\u003c/em> left a permanent mark on our language. \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=18&v=4pnMWvbFpS8\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"The friend zone,\" \u003c/a>a concept that has since been embraced and distorted by men's rights activists, arrived in the first season, as Joey explained to Ross why it was too late to ask Rachel out. And \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TSCV5wUOFE\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"going commando,\"\u003c/a> while already an obscure term, was popularized much more widely in the episode when Joey wears all of Chandler's clothes without wearing underwear:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/4TSCV5wUOFE'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/4TSCV5wUOFE'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>While the speedy spread of new slang makes perfect sense in the age of social media, it's much harder to fathom how TV shows once pulled off the same feat all by themselves. Catchphrases are one thing—they're used week in, week out until they're universally understood by the public (see: \"\u003ca href=\"https://bigbangtheory.fandom.com/wiki/Bazinga\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bazinga!\u003c/a>\" \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Na-Nu%20Na-Nu\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Na-nu na-nu!\u003c/a>\" \"\u003ca href=\"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Urkel\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Did I do that?\u003c/a>\" etc.)—but single episode phrases that stand the test of time are something of an anomaly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The show most frequently credited for this is \u003cem>Seinfeld, \u003c/em>thanks to a writing team led by Larry David that was fundamentally committed to coming up with compact, snappy terms to describe problems and life irritants that were universally relatable. These phrases were written into scripts so smoothly, \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em>'s audience instantly understood—and latched onto—concepts like \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGVSIkEi3mM\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">close talkers\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKWYg9qFOpA\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">low talkers\u003c/a>, \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKQFjHDk32E\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">sidlers\u003c/a> and even \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euLQOQNVzgY\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Soup Nazis\u003c/a>. Most remarkably of all though, it was \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> that gave us a word for \"regifting\"—a concept so popular now, Colorado has been celebrating \"National Regifting Day\" every December 18th since 2008.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/6VGbY6sirHM'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/6VGbY6sirHM'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>20 years after it went off the air, other gifts from \u003cem>Seinfeld \u003c/em>continue to get recycled. Last year, country singer Brandon Lay released a track titled \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaRrVtZSwvU\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"Yada Yada Yada.\"\u003c/a> \"Festivus\" merch remains so popular, \u003ca href=\"https://www.etsy.com/market/festivus\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Etsy has a dedicated section\u003c/a> for it. And makers of female contraceptives have a \u003ca href=\"http://www.todaysponge.com/spongeworthyclub.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">membership club called \"SpongeWorthy,\"\u003c/a> named after Elaine's term for a man attractive enough to use her limited supply of sponges on.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, there are plenty of other shows that have left a mark on American slang. Police officers wouldn't be referred to as \"Five-O\" if it wasn't for 1970s \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062568/?ref_=nv_sr_2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">cop show, \u003cem>Hawaii 5-O\u003c/em>\u003c/a>; we wouldn't have the term \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvGopsM1G9g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">\"jumping the shark\"\u003c/a> if it wasn't for that ridiculous \u003cem>Happy Days\u003c/em> episode; and—fun fact!—email spam was \u003ca href=\"http://mentalfloss.com/article/556977/words-and-phrases-that-came-from-tv-shows\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">named after the \u003cem>Monty Python\u003c/em> skit\u003c/a>, in which no one can get a word in for all of the \"spam\" references. The difference is, these were all terms invented by the public in reference to shows rather than lifting language straight out of episodes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When they were on the air, \u003cem>Friends\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> averaged between 21 and 24 million viewers per episode. The only sitcom to consistently come close to that since is \u003cem>The Big Bang Theory \u003c/em>(18-20 million). Comedy shows considered big hits in between—the likes of \u003cem>How I Met Your Mother\u003c/em>, \u003cem>The Office\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Parks and Recreation\u003c/em>—averaged about a quarter of that. With the decline and splintering of TV viewership, thanks to the plethora of new ways to watch and a vast array of content to stream, the kind of influence once wielded by sitcoms is a thing of the past. The linguistic gifts from \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> and \u003cem>Friends, \u003c/em>though, will stay with us forever.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/108851/how-friends-and-seinfeld-changed-the-way-we-talk","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_2696","pop_3"],"tags":["pop_3426","pop_267","pop_3341","pop_1532","pop_530"],"featImg":"pop_109211","label":"pop"},"pop_109574":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_109574","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"109574","score":null,"sort":[1550696389000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"you-get-paid-for-doing-therapy-stand-up-comedians-talk-anger","title":"\"You Get Paid For Doing Therapy\": Stand-Up Comedians Talk Anger","publishDate":1550696389,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>Veteran comedians know all about the funny side of anger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The late George Carlin wrote an entire bit called \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBw14SVVQTI\">Free-Floating Hostility\u003c/a>.\" Jerry Seinfeld once declared in the \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/style/la-mag-nov302008-theear-story.html\">Los Angeles Times\u003c/a> that \"All comedy starts with anger.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rant is often a comedian's sharpest tool, whether it's the screams of the late Sam Kinison or the tirades of \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrabeOMyXAc\">Chris Rock\u003c/a>—like \"Stop telling your kids they're special!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.npr.org/player/embed/689926199/696172557\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/12/02/672758694/comedian-mo-amer-takes-his-the-refugee-experience-to-netflix\">Comic Mo Amer\u003c/a> has plenty to be angry about—he's spent pretty much his whole life trying to explain his identity. Mo is short for Mohammed (as he says, it's the most popular name in the world, but try finding a personalized keychain anywhere); Amer was born in Kuwait to Palestinian parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When he was 9 years old, his family had to flee the country during the Gulf War; eventually, they settled in Texas. Then, when Amer was 14, his father died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was angry that I didn't get time with him,\" Amer says. \"There was anger for having very little semblance of family life, and everybody split up and everybody is in different parts of the world because war sucks.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amer found that stand-up comedy was a perfect outlet for his frustrations. Much of his material comes from his experiences as an immigrant from the Middle East—and, as he tells it, traveling internationally can be a nightmare. For years, his only form of identification was a refugee travel document.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his Netflix special, \u003cem>The Vagabond\u003c/em>, he re-creates a heated conversation he had with a customs official who refused to accept it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QviPgC3Vmms\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Stand-up, why I love it so much, because it's—you get paid for doing therapy,\" Amer says. \"So that was part of my coping process.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another part is feedback from the audience. Amer says he got a standing ovation for an early performance of that bit about international travel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It was one of those moments I was like, 'Oh, this is what it's all about,' \" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Turning pain into belly laughs is not easy, says Noam Dworman, who owns the renowned New York club the Comedy Cellar. He says Amer is one of the few who can elicit joyous laughter out of pain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The thing about Mo is that he has this background of incidents in his life that would cause resentment in somebody,\" Dworman says. \"But the way he presents it is with such charm and appeal that it's endearing, you know, people adore him. They love him.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stand-up comedians have long used pain, anger and hurt to get a laugh, whether it's Kinison's screams of outright rage, or the self-deprecating sarcasm of the late Phyllis Diller recounting a story of her husband getting up and putting on his work clothes after she asked him to kiss her goodnight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And stand-up can be as much of a coping mechanism for audiences as it is for comics. People have sought relief from fools and jesters as far back as the Middle Ages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his 1962 book \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Heroes-Villains-Fools-Changing-Character/dp/1412853583\">Heroes, Villains, and Fools\u003c/a>, sociologist Orrin E. Klapp wrote that the clever fool is the \"safety valve ... by which societies release tensions that might otherwise be damaging.\" In other words, the communal belly laugh can be cathartic, whether it's about serious issues or spilled milk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sophie Quirk, author of the book \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Why-Stand-up-Matters-Comedians-Manipulate/dp/1472578929\">Why Stand-up Matters\u003c/a>, is a senior lecturer in drama and theater at the University of Kent in the U.K.. She says the comedy club offers jokes, social criticism and what she calls a \"bonding experience.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There are some comedians who I actively want to see when something happens that makes me angry, say, politically,\" Quirk says. \"And the people around me are going to be expressing—through their laughter and their groans and their boos and whatever—it might be a real empathy with how I'm feeling about it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Anger is, of course, just one emotion a performer needs to conjure up to really connect with the audience. \"Some of my jokes come from empathy, too,\" Amer says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sandra Bernhard, whose sneers are legendary, agrees that a performer needs to tap into a range of emotions on stage. But she says anger is like fuel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Anger is energy,\" Bernhard says. \"And I think you've got to be able to access that side of your psyche and be able to fully express yourself within the confines of it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Within the confines of a comedy club, tension—or the release of it—is part of what you pay for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27You+Get+Paid+For+Doing+Therapy%27%3A+Stand-Up+Comedians+On+Anger&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"How some stand-up performers turn pain and rage into their own coping and catharsis.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1550694859,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":25,"wordCount":795},"headData":{"title":"\"You Get Paid For Doing Therapy\": Stand-Up Comedians Talk Anger | KQED","description":"How some stand-up performers turn pain and rage into their own coping and catharsis.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"109574 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=109574","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2019/02/20/you-get-paid-for-doing-therapy-stand-up-comedians-talk-anger/","disqusTitle":"\"You Get Paid For Doing Therapy\": Stand-Up Comedians Talk Anger","nprByline":"Elizabeth Blair","nprImageAgency":"Netflix","nprStoryId":"689926199","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=689926199&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2019/02/20/689926199/you-get-paid-for-doing-therapy-stand-up-comedians-on-anger?ft=nprml&f=689926199","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:50:00 -0500","nprStoryDate":"Wed, 20 Feb 2019 05:01:00 -0500","nprLastModifiedDate":"Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:50:59 -0500","nprAudio":"https://ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/me/2019/02/20190220_me_you_get_paid_for_doing_therapy_stand-up_comedians_on_anger.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1008&aggIds=688838187&d=345&p=3&story=689926199&ft=nprml&f=689926199","nprAudioM3u":"http://api.npr.org/m3u/1696172557-08b00c.m3u?orgId=1&topicId=1008&aggIds=688838187&d=345&p=3&story=689926199&ft=nprml&f=689926199","audioTrackLength":346,"path":"/pop/109574/you-get-paid-for-doing-therapy-stand-up-comedians-talk-anger","audioUrl":"https://ondemand.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/me/2019/02/20190220_me_you_get_paid_for_doing_therapy_stand-up_comedians_on_anger.mp3?orgId=1&topicId=1008&aggIds=688838187&d=345&p=3&story=689926199&ft=nprml&f=689926199","parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>Veteran comedians know all about the funny side of anger.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The late George Carlin wrote an entire bit called \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBw14SVVQTI\">Free-Floating Hostility\u003c/a>.\" Jerry Seinfeld once declared in the \u003ca href=\"https://www.latimes.com/style/la-mag-nov302008-theear-story.html\">Los Angeles Times\u003c/a> that \"All comedy starts with anger.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The rant is often a comedian's sharpest tool, whether it's the screams of the late Sam Kinison or the tirades of \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrabeOMyXAc\">Chris Rock\u003c/a>—like \"Stop telling your kids they're special!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.npr.org/player/embed/689926199/696172557\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/12/02/672758694/comedian-mo-amer-takes-his-the-refugee-experience-to-netflix\">Comic Mo Amer\u003c/a> has plenty to be angry about—he's spent pretty much his whole life trying to explain his identity. Mo is short for Mohammed (as he says, it's the most popular name in the world, but try finding a personalized keychain anywhere); Amer was born in Kuwait to Palestinian parents.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When he was 9 years old, his family had to flee the country during the Gulf War; eventually, they settled in Texas. Then, when Amer was 14, his father died.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I was angry that I didn't get time with him,\" Amer says. \"There was anger for having very little semblance of family life, and everybody split up and everybody is in different parts of the world because war sucks.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Amer found that stand-up comedy was a perfect outlet for his frustrations. Much of his material comes from his experiences as an immigrant from the Middle East—and, as he tells it, traveling internationally can be a nightmare. For years, his only form of identification was a refugee travel document.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his Netflix special, \u003cem>The Vagabond\u003c/em>, he re-creates a heated conversation he had with a customs official who refused to accept it.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/QviPgC3Vmms'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/QviPgC3Vmms'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\"Stand-up, why I love it so much, because it's—you get paid for doing therapy,\" Amer says. \"So that was part of my coping process.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Another part is feedback from the audience. Amer says he got a standing ovation for an early performance of that bit about international travel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It was one of those moments I was like, 'Oh, this is what it's all about,' \" he says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Turning pain into belly laughs is not easy, says Noam Dworman, who owns the renowned New York club the Comedy Cellar. He says Amer is one of the few who can elicit joyous laughter out of pain.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"The thing about Mo is that he has this background of incidents in his life that would cause resentment in somebody,\" Dworman says. \"But the way he presents it is with such charm and appeal that it's endearing, you know, people adore him. They love him.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Stand-up comedians have long used pain, anger and hurt to get a laugh, whether it's Kinison's screams of outright rage, or the self-deprecating sarcasm of the late Phyllis Diller recounting a story of her husband getting up and putting on his work clothes after she asked him to kiss her goodnight.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And stand-up can be as much of a coping mechanism for audiences as it is for comics. People have sought relief from fools and jesters as far back as the Middle Ages.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In his 1962 book \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Heroes-Villains-Fools-Changing-Character/dp/1412853583\">Heroes, Villains, and Fools\u003c/a>, sociologist Orrin E. Klapp wrote that the clever fool is the \"safety valve ... by which societies release tensions that might otherwise be damaging.\" In other words, the communal belly laugh can be cathartic, whether it's about serious issues or spilled milk.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sophie Quirk, author of the book \u003ca href=\"https://www.amazon.com/Why-Stand-up-Matters-Comedians-Manipulate/dp/1472578929\">Why Stand-up Matters\u003c/a>, is a senior lecturer in drama and theater at the University of Kent in the U.K.. She says the comedy club offers jokes, social criticism and what she calls a \"bonding experience.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"There are some comedians who I actively want to see when something happens that makes me angry, say, politically,\" Quirk says. \"And the people around me are going to be expressing—through their laughter and their groans and their boos and whatever—it might be a real empathy with how I'm feeling about it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Anger is, of course, just one emotion a performer needs to conjure up to really connect with the audience. \"Some of my jokes come from empathy, too,\" Amer says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sandra Bernhard, whose sneers are legendary, agrees that a performer needs to tap into a range of emotions on stage. But she says anger is like fuel.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Anger is energy,\" Bernhard says. \"And I think you've got to be able to access that side of your psyche and be able to fully express yourself within the confines of it.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Within the confines of a comedy club, tension—or the release of it—is part of what you pay for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27You+Get+Paid+For+Doing+Therapy%27%3A+Stand-Up+Comedians+On+Anger&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/109574/you-get-paid-for-doing-therapy-stand-up-comedians-talk-anger","authors":["byline_pop_109574"],"categories":["pop_2696"],"tags":["pop_3426","pop_3045","pop_3477","pop_3478","pop_530"],"featImg":"pop_109577","label":"pop"},"pop_103581":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_103581","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"103581","score":null,"sort":[1526370153000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"something-from-nothing-20-years-on-the-enduring-yada-yada-of-seinfeld","title":"Something From Nothing: 20 Years On, the Enduring Yada-Yada of 'Seinfeld'","publishDate":1526370153,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>It was the show that made something out of nothing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twenty years ago, NBC aired the final episode of \u003cem>Seinfeld, \u003c/em>which followed the ramblings of four friends — Jerry, George, Elaine and Kramer in '90s New York. The show was wildly popular during its initial nine-season run and has remained a cultural touchstone in the decades since it went off the air.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I spent many weeknights watching reruns of \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> with my dad. The show's enduring popularity after it went into syndication — and later streamed on Hulu — highlights the inter-generational appeal of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Much of the humor in\u003cem> Seinfeld\u003c/em> – Kramer playing a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_jLykcWPn0\">Moviefone operator\u003c/a>, Jerry and Elaine \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghCTZF61ey0\">getting stranded\u003c/a> at a party on Long Island (no Ubers to call), Elaine's careful consideration of whether a potential hookup is worth the use of a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfDyOyrY-zM\">discontinued birth-control sponge\u003c/a> – are relics of American life, but the show's humor endures, says Carol Leifer, a writer for \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> during seasons five, six and seven.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When I was growing up I used to watch \u003cem>I Love Lucy\u003c/em> and that was a show that was an old timey show back then, but it's funny,\" \u003ca href=\"http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2018/05/14/seinfeld-finale-20-years-later\">she tells\u003c/a> \u003cem>Here & Now's\u003c/em> Jeremy Hobson. \"And I'm just so proud to have been part of a show that's really withstood the test of time.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=102&v=WnG4ZXklyp4\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Created by comedians Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David, Seinfeld aired 172 episodes from July 1989 to May 14, 1998. The show presented an obsessively close look at the frustrations and irritations of everyday life for a group of 30-somethings in Manhattan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Often referred to as \"the show about nothing,\" each episode saw the four friends – Seinfeld playing a version of himself, Jason Alexander as George Costanza, Michael Richards as Cosmo Kramer and Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Elaine Benes — encounter a seemingly small problem that spirals into unexplained mayhem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of the best episodes centered on a simple premise that often left network executives confused as to how it would play with the audience. In one particularly iconic episode, \"The Chinese Restaurant,\" Jerry, George and Elaine spend the entire half hour waiting for a table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A ravenous Elaine \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLLTQnZsx8c\">tries to bribe\u003c/a> a group of people for an egg roll off their plate; Jerry runs into a woman he knows but \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_kX-hmH2FQ\">blanks on her name\u003c/a>, and George – trying to get in touch with a woman he's seeing named Tatiana – \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnG4ZXklyp4\">has an outburst\u003c/a> in the middle of the restaurant because others are hogging the pay phone.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=71&v=QfuuXwQMDyE\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"It's like the thesis of the whole show,\" Jennifer Keishin Armstrong, author of \u003cem>Seinfeldia: How a Show About Nothing Changed Everything\u003c/em>, \u003ca href=\"http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/08/03/seinfeldia-keishin-armstrong\">told Hobson in 2016\u003c/a>. \"This was a particularly groundbreaking episode because nothing happens. ... The plot is, you know, the log line is they go to a Chinese restaurant, they wait for a table, they don't get it, they leave. That doesn't sound like a story to network executives.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, after the first preview of the pilot episode, Brandon Tartikoff, the head of NBC entertainment, \u003ca href=\"https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-hugging-no-learning-the-seinfeld-credo-1471032667?ns=prod/accounts-wsj&ns=prod/accounts-wsj\">asked his colleagues\u003c/a>: \"Who will want to see Jews wandering around New York acting neurotic?\" Turns out, the lives of four irrational New Yorkers would be more relatable than executives suspected.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many of the ideas for the show actually came from the writers' real-life experiences, Leifer says. She says one of the most famous scenes — when Jerry \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfuuXwQMDyE\">tries to wrestle\u003c/a> a marble rye from an elderly woman on the street — actually came from her friend's unusual dinner party experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"She said, 'The funniest thing happened to me. My husband and I had a couple over for dinner, and they brought a bread, and I forgot to put it out. And I realized at the end of the evening that they had taken the bread home with them,' \" Leifer says. \"And as my friend was telling me this story, I said to her, 'Oh my God, I cannot wait to pitch that.' \"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfdaTWOCTnk\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Not only did Seinfeld find humor in the mundane, but it opened the door for the TV anti-heroes that came after – the mobsters of \u003cem>The Sopranos\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Breaking Bad's\u003c/em> meth-cooking Walter White and the four entitled 20-somethings on \u003cem>Girls\u003c/em>. The characters in \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> didn't evolve, and they were funnier that way. As Larry David would say on set, there is \"no hugging, no learning.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even the show's series finale – which was watched by 76 million people and vilified by almost all of them – ends with the four friends going to prison for \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPnK0NCn_MQ\">violating a Good Samaritan law\u003c/a> in Massachusetts. Jerry, Elaine, George and Kramer witness an overweight man being robbed, but instead of helping him they relentlessly mock him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In some ways, it was a fitting ending for the selfish group of Manhattanites, whose no-cares attitude was as equally cringe worthy as it was inspiring. As Elaine once \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kcYdNdlCfU\">said in a toast\u003c/a> to colleagues at an office party, \"Here's to those who wish us well, and those who don't can go to hell.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2018 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Something+From+Nothing%3A+20+Years+On%2C+The+Enduring+Yada+Yada+Of+%27Seinfeld%27&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The last episode of 'Seinfeld' aired 20 years ago—but the world still can't stop watching.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1526370153,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":895},"headData":{"title":"Something From Nothing: 20 Years On, the Enduring Yada-Yada of 'Seinfeld' | KQED","description":"The last episode of 'Seinfeld' aired 20 years ago—but the world still can't stop watching.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"103581 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=103581","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2018/05/15/something-from-nothing-20-years-on-the-enduring-yada-yada-of-seinfeld/","disqusTitle":"Something From Nothing: 20 Years On, the Enduring Yada-Yada of 'Seinfeld'","nprImageCredit":"Getty Images","nprByline":"Samantha Raphelson","nprImageAgency":"Getty Images","nprStoryId":"611061109","nprApiLink":"http://api.npr.org/query?id=611061109&apiKey=MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004","nprHtmlLink":"https://www.npr.org/2018/05/14/611061109/something-from-nothing-20-years-on-the-enduring-yada-yada-of-seinfeld?ft=nprml&f=611061109","nprRetrievedStory":"1","nprPubDate":"Mon, 14 May 2018 15:47:00 -0400","nprStoryDate":"Mon, 14 May 2018 15:45:06 -0400","nprLastModifiedDate":"Mon, 14 May 2018 15:47:10 -0400","path":"/pop/103581/something-from-nothing-20-years-on-the-enduring-yada-yada-of-seinfeld","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>It was the show that made something out of nothing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Twenty years ago, NBC aired the final episode of \u003cem>Seinfeld, \u003c/em>which followed the ramblings of four friends — Jerry, George, Elaine and Kramer in '90s New York. The show was wildly popular during its initial nine-season run and has remained a cultural touchstone in the decades since it went off the air.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I spent many weeknights watching reruns of \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> with my dad. The show's enduring popularity after it went into syndication — and later streamed on Hulu — highlights the inter-generational appeal of the show.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Much of the humor in\u003cem> Seinfeld\u003c/em> – Kramer playing a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_jLykcWPn0\">Moviefone operator\u003c/a>, Jerry and Elaine \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghCTZF61ey0\">getting stranded\u003c/a> at a party on Long Island (no Ubers to call), Elaine's careful consideration of whether a potential hookup is worth the use of a \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfDyOyrY-zM\">discontinued birth-control sponge\u003c/a> – are relics of American life, but the show's humor endures, says Carol Leifer, a writer for \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> during seasons five, six and seven.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When I was growing up I used to watch \u003cem>I Love Lucy\u003c/em> and that was a show that was an old timey show back then, but it's funny,\" \u003ca href=\"http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2018/05/14/seinfeld-finale-20-years-later\">she tells\u003c/a> \u003cem>Here & Now's\u003c/em> Jeremy Hobson. \"And I'm just so proud to have been part of a show that's really withstood the test of time.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/WnG4ZXklyp4'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/WnG4ZXklyp4'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Created by comedians Jerry Seinfeld and Larry David, Seinfeld aired 172 episodes from July 1989 to May 14, 1998. The show presented an obsessively close look at the frustrations and irritations of everyday life for a group of 30-somethings in Manhattan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Often referred to as \"the show about nothing,\" each episode saw the four friends – Seinfeld playing a version of himself, Jason Alexander as George Costanza, Michael Richards as Cosmo Kramer and Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Elaine Benes — encounter a seemingly small problem that spirals into unexplained mayhem.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Some of the best episodes centered on a simple premise that often left network executives confused as to how it would play with the audience. In one particularly iconic episode, \"The Chinese Restaurant,\" Jerry, George and Elaine spend the entire half hour waiting for a table.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A ravenous Elaine \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLLTQnZsx8c\">tries to bribe\u003c/a> a group of people for an egg roll off their plate; Jerry runs into a woman he knows but \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_kX-hmH2FQ\">blanks on her name\u003c/a>, and George – trying to get in touch with a woman he's seeing named Tatiana – \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnG4ZXklyp4\">has an outburst\u003c/a> in the middle of the restaurant because others are hogging the pay phone.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/QfuuXwQMDyE'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/QfuuXwQMDyE'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\"It's like the thesis of the whole show,\" Jennifer Keishin Armstrong, author of \u003cem>Seinfeldia: How a Show About Nothing Changed Everything\u003c/em>, \u003ca href=\"http://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/08/03/seinfeldia-keishin-armstrong\">told Hobson in 2016\u003c/a>. \"This was a particularly groundbreaking episode because nothing happens. ... The plot is, you know, the log line is they go to a Chinese restaurant, they wait for a table, they don't get it, they leave. That doesn't sound like a story to network executives.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In fact, after the first preview of the pilot episode, Brandon Tartikoff, the head of NBC entertainment, \u003ca href=\"https://www.wsj.com/articles/no-hugging-no-learning-the-seinfeld-credo-1471032667?ns=prod/accounts-wsj&ns=prod/accounts-wsj\">asked his colleagues\u003c/a>: \"Who will want to see Jews wandering around New York acting neurotic?\" Turns out, the lives of four irrational New Yorkers would be more relatable than executives suspected.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Many of the ideas for the show actually came from the writers' real-life experiences, Leifer says. She says one of the most famous scenes — when Jerry \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfuuXwQMDyE\">tries to wrestle\u003c/a> a marble rye from an elderly woman on the street — actually came from her friend's unusual dinner party experience.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"She said, 'The funniest thing happened to me. My husband and I had a couple over for dinner, and they brought a bread, and I forgot to put it out. And I realized at the end of the evening that they had taken the bread home with them,' \" Leifer says. \"And as my friend was telling me this story, I said to her, 'Oh my God, I cannot wait to pitch that.' \"\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/AfdaTWOCTnk'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/AfdaTWOCTnk'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Not only did Seinfeld find humor in the mundane, but it opened the door for the TV anti-heroes that came after – the mobsters of \u003cem>The Sopranos\u003c/em>, \u003cem>Breaking Bad's\u003c/em> meth-cooking Walter White and the four entitled 20-somethings on \u003cem>Girls\u003c/em>. The characters in \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> didn't evolve, and they were funnier that way. As Larry David would say on set, there is \"no hugging, no learning.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even the show's series finale – which was watched by 76 million people and vilified by almost all of them – ends with the four friends going to prison for \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPnK0NCn_MQ\">violating a Good Samaritan law\u003c/a> in Massachusetts. Jerry, Elaine, George and Kramer witness an overweight man being robbed, but instead of helping him they relentlessly mock him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In some ways, it was a fitting ending for the selfish group of Manhattanites, whose no-cares attitude was as equally cringe worthy as it was inspiring. As Elaine once \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kcYdNdlCfU\">said in a toast\u003c/a> to colleagues at an office party, \"Here's to those who wish us well, and those who don't can go to hell.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2018 NPR. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=Something+From+Nothing%3A+20+Years+On%2C+The+Enduring+Yada+Yada+Of+%27Seinfeld%27&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/103581/something-from-nothing-20-years-on-the-enduring-yada-yada-of-seinfeld","authors":["byline_pop_103581"],"categories":["pop_3"],"tags":["pop_88","pop_530"],"featImg":"pop_103585","label":"pop"},"pop_11698":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_11698","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"11698","score":null,"sort":[1396015519000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-most-beloved-and-reviled-television-series-finales-how-i-met-your-mother-best-worst","title":"The Most Beloved and Reviled Television Series Finales","publishDate":1396015519,"format":"aside","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11704\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2014/03/28/the-most-beloved-and-reviled-television-series-finales-how-i-met-your-mother-best-worst/how-i-met-your-mother/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-11704\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11704\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2014/03/how-i-met-your-mother.jpg\" alt=\"Photo: CBS\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2014/03/how-i-met-your-mother.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2014/03/how-i-met-your-mother-400x225.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo: CBS\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As \u003cem>How I Met Your Mother\u003c/em> comes to an end on Monday night, the circle of life in television is again complete. Expectations always run high with series conclusions and, no matter how Ted meets the mother, someone is bound to be unhappy. Here are some famous and infamous finales that satisfied, mystified, and enraged viewers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Seinfeld\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfdaTWOCTnk\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Often \u003ca href=\"http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/12/10-quick-facts-much-maligned-seinfeld-series-finale/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">disparaged\u003c/a> for being too tidy a resolution, the final episodes of the series put the gang on trial (literally) and featured a Fellini-esque parade of past characters testifying against Elaine, George, Kramer and Jerry. The final moments, where the gang again dissolve into a conversation about nothing, seemed like the most appropriate ending possible, but still, many grumbled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Friends\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbXGSfKZD8s\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I got off the plane.\" Rachel's declaration to Ross was the high point of the sitcom's finale. The low was the sad guitar pan of the empty apartment. Ending on a coffee at Central Perk would have been a much better final image for the gang; this was not a show about sad guitar pans!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>The Sopranos\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1x9YACdBUrU\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/the-sopranos-definitive-explanation-of-the-end/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The debate\u003c/a> over the fate of Tony Soprano rages on. When the episode cut to black, a nation ran to their phones to call their cable providers. I personally loved the quick cut and the mystery. I dare not make a guess as to Tony's fate, but there was something so gasp-inducing and perfect about the final second, leaving fans on suspended nerves, a feeling they'd gotten familiar with over so many seasons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Breaking Bad\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wz3fjmRr4M\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Inglorious and fitting. Walter White doesn't get to triumph: his bitter-sweet half-win of going down with his enemies was the best he could ever hope for. Ultimately, in the series' violent conclusion, White did not get the one thing back he most needed; his humanity remains the ultimate victim. Surprisingly, most people were \u003ca href=\"http://www.vulture.com/2013/10/seitz-breaking-bad-finale-essay.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">happy with this ending.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Dexter\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>As devastating as the losses of the \u003cem>Dexter\u003c/em> series finale were, it was only appropriate that Dexter would lose his true tie to the human race, his sister Deb. A happy ending with Harrison and the happy poisoner didn't seem possible so Dexter's staged boat crash death and lonely exile to the lumber yard actually seemed fitting. \u003ca href=\"http://www.vulture.com/2013/09/dexter-recap-series-finale.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Many hated this ending\u003c/a>, but I continue to defend it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Lost\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>Maybe one of you can explain the \u003cem>Lost\u003c/em> finale to me? They were/were not dead the entire time? Or just the flash-sideways universe of season 6 and on? It's purgatory? Did the plane crash or not? Never has a title been so prophetic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Desperate Housewives\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>I include \u003cem>Desperate Housewives \u003c/em> on this list because it was a show so dramatically uneven in quality one season to the next. The first season was brilliant, the second set a bad tone for the rest of the series, the third and fourth were marked improvements and, by the time you get Vanessa Williams in the final seasons, you're just waiting for the alien abduction. The jumps forward do not work in this finale and audiences universally \u003ca href=\"http://hollywoodlife.com/2012/05/14/desperate-housewives-series-finale-recap-ending/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">groaned \u003c/a>when the dead all lined Wisteria Lane. If this had ended on a more mysterious note, it might have redeemed the series.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Six Feet Under\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qD6Y7d4hIW4\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>EVERYBODY DIES! I've told you everything and nothing about the brilliant conclusion of this incredibly worthy HBO series. After years of seeing strangers die, it was so appropriate to follow each of the characters to their ends; haunting, beautiful and one last de-sentimentalizing of what's in store for everyone. It wasn't just a series finale; it was a metaphor for all series finales.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Find out if \u003cem>How I Met Your Mother\u003c/em> hits it out of the park like \u003cem>Six Feet Under\u003c/em> or if the show pulls a \u003cem>Desperate Housewives \u003c/em>this Sunday (March 30, 2014) on CBS.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"As How I Met Your Mother draws to a close, we revisit some famous and infamous finales that satisfied, mystified, and enraged viewers.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1633372470,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":12,"wordCount":680},"headData":{"title":"The Most Beloved and Reviled Television Series Finales - KQED Pop","description":"As How I Met Your Mother draws to a close, we revisit some famous and infamous finales that satisfied, mystified, and enraged viewers.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"11698 http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/?p=11698","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2014/03/28/the-most-beloved-and-reviled-television-series-finales-how-i-met-your-mother-best-worst/","disqusTitle":"The Most Beloved and Reviled Television Series Finales","templateType":"standard","featuredImageType":"standard","path":"/pop/11698/the-most-beloved-and-reviled-television-series-finales-how-i-met-your-mother-best-worst","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_11704\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2014/03/28/the-most-beloved-and-reviled-television-series-finales-how-i-met-your-mother-best-worst/how-i-met-your-mother/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-11704\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-11704\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2014/03/how-i-met-your-mother.jpg\" alt=\"Photo: CBS\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2014/03/how-i-met-your-mother.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2014/03/how-i-met-your-mother-400x225.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Photo: CBS\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>As \u003cem>How I Met Your Mother\u003c/em> comes to an end on Monday night, the circle of life in television is again complete. Expectations always run high with series conclusions and, no matter how Ted meets the mother, someone is bound to be unhappy. Here are some famous and infamous finales that satisfied, mystified, and enraged viewers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Seinfeld\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/AfdaTWOCTnk'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/AfdaTWOCTnk'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Often \u003ca href=\"http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/12/10-quick-facts-much-maligned-seinfeld-series-finale/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">disparaged\u003c/a> for being too tidy a resolution, the final episodes of the series put the gang on trial (literally) and featured a Fellini-esque parade of past characters testifying against Elaine, George, Kramer and Jerry. The final moments, where the gang again dissolve into a conversation about nothing, seemed like the most appropriate ending possible, but still, many grumbled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Friends\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/qbXGSfKZD8s'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/qbXGSfKZD8s'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\"I got off the plane.\" Rachel's declaration to Ross was the high point of the sitcom's finale. The low was the sad guitar pan of the empty apartment. Ending on a coffee at Central Perk would have been a much better final image for the gang; this was not a show about sad guitar pans!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>The Sopranos\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/1x9YACdBUrU'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/1x9YACdBUrU'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://masterofsopranos.wordpress.com/the-sopranos-definitive-explanation-of-the-end/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The debate\u003c/a> over the fate of Tony Soprano rages on. When the episode cut to black, a nation ran to their phones to call their cable providers. I personally loved the quick cut and the mystery. I dare not make a guess as to Tony's fate, but there was something so gasp-inducing and perfect about the final second, leaving fans on suspended nerves, a feeling they'd gotten familiar with over so many seasons.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Breaking Bad\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/0wz3fjmRr4M'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/0wz3fjmRr4M'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Inglorious and fitting. Walter White doesn't get to triumph: his bitter-sweet half-win of going down with his enemies was the best he could ever hope for. Ultimately, in the series' violent conclusion, White did not get the one thing back he most needed; his humanity remains the ultimate victim. Surprisingly, most people were \u003ca href=\"http://www.vulture.com/2013/10/seitz-breaking-bad-finale-essay.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">happy with this ending.\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Dexter\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>As devastating as the losses of the \u003cem>Dexter\u003c/em> series finale were, it was only appropriate that Dexter would lose his true tie to the human race, his sister Deb. A happy ending with Harrison and the happy poisoner didn't seem possible so Dexter's staged boat crash death and lonely exile to the lumber yard actually seemed fitting. \u003ca href=\"http://www.vulture.com/2013/09/dexter-recap-series-finale.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Many hated this ending\u003c/a>, but I continue to defend it.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Lost\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>Maybe one of you can explain the \u003cem>Lost\u003c/em> finale to me? They were/were not dead the entire time? Or just the flash-sideways universe of season 6 and on? It's purgatory? Did the plane crash or not? Never has a title been so prophetic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Desperate Housewives\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>I include \u003cem>Desperate Housewives \u003c/em> on this list because it was a show so dramatically uneven in quality one season to the next. The first season was brilliant, the second set a bad tone for the rest of the series, the third and fourth were marked improvements and, by the time you get Vanessa Williams in the final seasons, you're just waiting for the alien abduction. The jumps forward do not work in this finale and audiences universally \u003ca href=\"http://hollywoodlife.com/2012/05/14/desperate-housewives-series-finale-recap-ending/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">groaned \u003c/a>when the dead all lined Wisteria Lane. If this had ended on a more mysterious note, it might have redeemed the series.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003cstrong>Six Feet Under\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/qD6Y7d4hIW4'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/qD6Y7d4hIW4'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>EVERYBODY DIES! I've told you everything and nothing about the brilliant conclusion of this incredibly worthy HBO series. After years of seeing strangers die, it was so appropriate to follow each of the characters to their ends; haunting, beautiful and one last de-sentimentalizing of what's in store for everyone. It wasn't just a series finale; it was a metaphor for all series finales.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Find out if \u003cem>How I Met Your Mother\u003c/em> hits it out of the park like \u003cem>Six Feet Under\u003c/em> or if the show pulls a \u003cem>Desperate Housewives \u003c/em>this Sunday (March 30, 2014) on CBS.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/11698/the-most-beloved-and-reviled-television-series-finales-how-i-met-your-mother-best-worst","authors":["2436"],"categories":["pop_3"],"tags":["pop_1083","pop_1534","pop_1533","pop_1532","pop_1531","pop_1071","pop_530","pop_89","pop_266","pop_939"],"featImg":"pop_11704","label":"pop"},"pop_6044":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_6044","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"6044","score":null,"sort":[1371751221000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"mad-men-is-it-time-to-give-up-on-don-drapers-soul","title":"Mad Men: Is It Time to Give Up on Don Draper's Soul?","publishDate":1371751221,"format":"aside","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_6068\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 640px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/06/20/mad-men-is-it-time-to-give-up-on-don-drapers-soul/ustv-mad-men-season-6-portraits-1/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-6068\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-6068\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/06/ustv-mad-men-season-6-portraits-1.jpg\" alt=\"ustv-mad-men-season-6-portraits-1\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/06/ustv-mad-men-season-6-portraits-1.jpg 640w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/06/ustv-mad-men-season-6-portraits-1-400x225.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Extended Draper Family and Don's Clearest Victims/Mad Men, AMC\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>A few months ago, I wrote an \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/03/29/3-steps-to-getting-pumped-for-the-new-season-of-mad-men/\">article here\u003c/a> about how to get pumped for the new season of \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em>. In Season Five, the show had gotten so overtly damning to its characters and I had trouble caring what happened next. This season, the damnation only continued, as blatantly suggested by Don reading the \u003cem>Inferno\u003c/em> in the first scene, and by his insistence, like some villainous Dracula, that his mistress, Sylvia, turn her cross necklace away from him whilst they canoodled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’ve enjoyed a lot of this season, but it’s also been exhausting. I realized tonight, to my horror, that with only one episode left in the season, I’m actually tired of thinking and talking about \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em>, for the first time ever. Maybe if I had been watching the similarly draggy third season as it aired, rather than binge-watching it, Season Six might not set the precedent for that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Season Six has been consistently comparable to Season Three, in fact--much of it has been aimless, and many scenes have been boring in the way that, on another show, you would say, \"Oh, they're setting something up here.\" Except \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em> viewers know at this point that a lot of the show doesn't add up to anything except cool subtext and anti-climax, (as is often the case in real life). Season Three chose to break up the monotony with a lawnmower accident and \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXRSxCUiLAM\">musical\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QN4NyD6l8A\">numbers\u003c/a>, and President Kennedy was killed. This year the characters faced the deaths of Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy (the former was what \u003ca href=\"http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/television/2013/05/20/130520crte_television_nussbaum\">Emily Nussbaum at The New Yorker\u003c/a> called \"a tone poem of white-person awkwardness,\" and the latter was used, to shocking effect, as merely a footnote to Don getting dumped), and in their own lives there has been a car crash, a dart-stabbing, a death by cancer, an off-screen mugging, a bayonetting, and a Dick-Cheney-style shot to the face while hunting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It sounds pretty good when I put it that way. And it has been, kind of. I think the problem I have is not only that the show gone back to the same \"Don cheats on his wife, he has everything but he takes it for granted, what can possibly save him?\" arc it broke away from years ago to such compelling effect, but that it did so to teach us a \u003cem>lesson\u003c/em>. That lesson is: times change, but people don't necessarily change or learn from their mistakes, \u003cem>man\u003c/em>. The Hell imagery of the season premiere, in addition to the cross thing and the final moment of most recent episode, “The Quality of Mercy,” where Peggy calls Don a monster, have turned that subtle theme into the overt lesson it's become.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All this, of course, does not mean I \u003cem>will\u003c/em> stop thinking or talking about the show. “The Quality of Mercy,” for instance, had a lot of great moments to offer: Pete Campbell admitting that Bob Benson, the conniving mystery man who came on to him in the previous episode, is handsome. A reference to \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaughn_Meader\">Vaughn Meader\u003c/a>, who is a very obscure and fascinating historical footnote. Everything relating to accounts man and actually-decent-person Ken Cosgrove, who this past season has assumed a role of slapstick martyrdom in the name of entertaining hedonistic Chevy representatives. And I love it any time the characters enthusiastically act out a hacky ad they plan on pitching, as they did in \"Mercy\" for a \u003cem>Rosemary's Baby\u003c/em>-themed baby aspirin ad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There is an episode of \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> in which George asks Jerry to appear unfunny, so his date will think George is the funniest guy in the room. Jerry takes it too far, and, when asked about birthdays, he makes a proto-Draperesque speech which I think also sums up the tone and message of the past season of \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Well, birthdays are merely symbolic of how another year has gone by and how little we've grown. No matter how desperate we are that someday a better self will emerge, with each flicker of the candles on the cake, we know it's not to be; that for the rest of our sad, wretched pathetic lives, this is who we are to the bitter end.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At its best, \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em> is like \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> in that it is hilarious in a similarly hopeless, looking-down-on-its-characters (all spoiled, amoral Manhattanites) way. Episode eight of this season, “The Crash,” fit this description—Ken Cosgrove dances on a broken foot, Don spends the whole time in an upper-induced frenzy trying to “pitch” a way to woo back Sylvia, and Stan gets a dart to the arm in a crazed game of William Tell. The show now only seems capable of being fun at the expense of its characters—the kind of \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltl0EQ9O7Gg\">triumphant moments\u003c/a> they might have been capable of earlier in the series are gone almost entirely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6nDsLx98SI]\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>In one of Don’s few cool moments this season, he tells off a Jaguar representative, but the moment is fleeting—Don hadn’t considered that losing Jaguar means Joan prostituted herself to that same creep last season for nothing. Joan makes a speech about how we all love to watch Don go around making decisions without thinking of the consequences, whether or not he cares how it effects everyone else. She represents the viewer in that moment: our love of seeing him act recklessly enables that recklessness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But if the show is pointing its finger at me, I plead guilty. In the most recent episode, when Don embarrassed Ted Chaugh at a meeting with a client, ostensibly in the name of saving money but possibly also out of jealousy towards him and his relationship with Peggy, I realized I’m totally comfortable with Don just being a villain all the time. The show itself seems to be mourning the loss of Don’s soul unduly, and it would make much better enablers of us if it allowed that subtext to stay in the background.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The season finale of \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://www.amctv.com/shows/mad-men\" target=\"_blank\">Mad Men\u003c/a> \u003c/em>airs Sunday, June 23 on AMC.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Over the last six seasons, Don Draper has turned into a nearly irredeemable person. Is it time for us to stop caring?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1371753668,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":13,"wordCount":1077},"headData":{"title":"Mad Men: Is It Time to Give Up on Don Draper's Soul? | KQED","description":"Over the last six seasons, Don Draper has turned into a nearly irredeemable person. 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In Season Five, the show had gotten so overtly damning to its characters and I had trouble caring what happened next. This season, the damnation only continued, as blatantly suggested by Don reading the \u003cem>Inferno\u003c/em> in the first scene, and by his insistence, like some villainous Dracula, that his mistress, Sylvia, turn her cross necklace away from him whilst they canoodled.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I’ve enjoyed a lot of this season, but it’s also been exhausting. I realized tonight, to my horror, that with only one episode left in the season, I’m actually tired of thinking and talking about \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em>, for the first time ever. Maybe if I had been watching the similarly draggy third season as it aired, rather than binge-watching it, Season Six might not set the precedent for that.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Season Six has been consistently comparable to Season Three, in fact--much of it has been aimless, and many scenes have been boring in the way that, on another show, you would say, \"Oh, they're setting something up here.\" Except \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em> viewers know at this point that a lot of the show doesn't add up to anything except cool subtext and anti-climax, (as is often the case in real life). Season Three chose to break up the monotony with a lawnmower accident and \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXRSxCUiLAM\">musical\u003c/a> \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QN4NyD6l8A\">numbers\u003c/a>, and President Kennedy was killed. This year the characters faced the deaths of Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy (the former was what \u003ca href=\"http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/television/2013/05/20/130520crte_television_nussbaum\">Emily Nussbaum at The New Yorker\u003c/a> called \"a tone poem of white-person awkwardness,\" and the latter was used, to shocking effect, as merely a footnote to Don getting dumped), and in their own lives there has been a car crash, a dart-stabbing, a death by cancer, an off-screen mugging, a bayonetting, and a Dick-Cheney-style shot to the face while hunting.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It sounds pretty good when I put it that way. And it has been, kind of. I think the problem I have is not only that the show gone back to the same \"Don cheats on his wife, he has everything but he takes it for granted, what can possibly save him?\" arc it broke away from years ago to such compelling effect, but that it did so to teach us a \u003cem>lesson\u003c/em>. That lesson is: times change, but people don't necessarily change or learn from their mistakes, \u003cem>man\u003c/em>. The Hell imagery of the season premiere, in addition to the cross thing and the final moment of most recent episode, “The Quality of Mercy,” where Peggy calls Don a monster, have turned that subtle theme into the overt lesson it's become.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All this, of course, does not mean I \u003cem>will\u003c/em> stop thinking or talking about the show. “The Quality of Mercy,” for instance, had a lot of great moments to offer: Pete Campbell admitting that Bob Benson, the conniving mystery man who came on to him in the previous episode, is handsome. A reference to \u003ca href=\"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaughn_Meader\">Vaughn Meader\u003c/a>, who is a very obscure and fascinating historical footnote. Everything relating to accounts man and actually-decent-person Ken Cosgrove, who this past season has assumed a role of slapstick martyrdom in the name of entertaining hedonistic Chevy representatives. And I love it any time the characters enthusiastically act out a hacky ad they plan on pitching, as they did in \"Mercy\" for a \u003cem>Rosemary's Baby\u003c/em>-themed baby aspirin ad.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There is an episode of \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> in which George asks Jerry to appear unfunny, so his date will think George is the funniest guy in the room. Jerry takes it too far, and, when asked about birthdays, he makes a proto-Draperesque speech which I think also sums up the tone and message of the past season of \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em>:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“Well, birthdays are merely symbolic of how another year has gone by and how little we've grown. No matter how desperate we are that someday a better self will emerge, with each flicker of the candles on the cake, we know it's not to be; that for the rest of our sad, wretched pathetic lives, this is who we are to the bitter end.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>At its best, \u003cem>Mad Men\u003c/em> is like \u003cem>Seinfeld\u003c/em> in that it is hilarious in a similarly hopeless, looking-down-on-its-characters (all spoiled, amoral Manhattanites) way. Episode eight of this season, “The Crash,” fit this description—Ken Cosgrove dances on a broken foot, Don spends the whole time in an upper-induced frenzy trying to “pitch” a way to woo back Sylvia, and Stan gets a dart to the arm in a crazed game of William Tell. The show now only seems capable of being fun at the expense of its characters—the kind of \u003ca href=\"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltl0EQ9O7Gg\">triumphant moments\u003c/a> they might have been capable of earlier in the series are gone almost entirely.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/Z6nDsLx98SI'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/Z6nDsLx98SI'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>In one of Don’s few cool moments this season, he tells off a Jaguar representative, but the moment is fleeting—Don hadn’t considered that losing Jaguar means Joan prostituted herself to that same creep last season for nothing. Joan makes a speech about how we all love to watch Don go around making decisions without thinking of the consequences, whether or not he cares how it effects everyone else. She represents the viewer in that moment: our love of seeing him act recklessly enables that recklessness.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But if the show is pointing its finger at me, I plead guilty. In the most recent episode, when Don embarrassed Ted Chaugh at a meeting with a client, ostensibly in the name of saving money but possibly also out of jealousy towards him and his relationship with Peggy, I realized I’m totally comfortable with Don just being a villain all the time. The show itself seems to be mourning the loss of Don’s soul unduly, and it would make much better enablers of us if it allowed that subtext to stay in the background.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The season finale of \u003cem>\u003ca href=\"http://www.amctv.com/shows/mad-men\" target=\"_blank\">Mad Men\u003c/a> \u003c/em>airs Sunday, June 23 on AMC.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/6044/mad-men-is-it-time-to-give-up-on-don-drapers-soul","authors":["2422"],"categories":["pop_3"],"tags":["pop_74","pop_771","pop_530"],"featImg":"pop_6068","label":"pop"},"pop_3254":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_3254","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"3254","score":null,"sort":[1364829152000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"a-style-guide-for-straight-guys","title":"A Style Guide for Straight Guys","publishDate":1364829152,"format":"aside","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/01/a-style-guide-for-straight-guys/2091ea1/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3348\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-3348\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/2091EA1.jpg\" alt=\"2091EA~1\" width=\"720\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/2091EA1.jpg 720w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/2091EA1-400x222.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/2091EA1-672x372.jpg 672w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hello, boys. Frankly, if a man wrote an article attempting to guide my own dressing habits towards a more male-friendly appearance, I would be miffed and dismiss him entirely. What right does a man have to tell a woman how to dress? You've been throwing hints at us since the dawn of time, and we already know what you like, anyway. There's a reason Victoria's Secret and stores that sell stripper heels stay in business -- that's what you like, not what we like, and we'll agree to throw you a literal bone every once in awhile. The main thing to remember, however, is that women dress for women, as in, we wear fashion to impress and compete with each other. It doesn't have much to do with you. You will take us in a sack-like dress, just like \u003ca href=\"http://onthisdayinfashion.com/?p=11761\">Molly Ringwald in Pretty in Pink\u003c/a>, as long as you can eventually see our boobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the other hand, straight men need to dress for women. They might not always do so, or they might not know how. What's at stake in our whole gender game is that \u003cem>you\u003c/em> need to convince \u003cem>us\u003c/em> to go home with you in our Molly Ringwald sack dress, so we can show you our boobs. If you aren't convincing, someone else just might be, and therein lies the scientific process of natural selection, my friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, there are other factors in the decision process -- I mean, we aren't \u003cem>completely\u003c/em> superficial, you have to be capable of having a conversation, etc, but what you need to understand is that we have a new world order out here. There was a time when women were just dying to get married because it was the only way we could survive. These days we've got our jobs and our cake, too. If you want to have a partner in crime, you've got to have a crime worth committing, if you catch my drift.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv>[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xevjs_dtkk8?rel=0&w=420&h=315]\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>The bad news is that you don't really get a whole lot of clothing options in contemporary society. It's sad, but you basically just get the pants/shirt/jacket combo in various iterations. In my MFA thesis research on dress, I learned something important about your clothes. Back in the era of kings and serfdom, power was connoted with leisure. Men and women in high society got to convey their status through ostentatious fancy clothing. However, along came the Industrial Revolution. All of a sudden, power was synonymous with work. Men wore serious, identical suits because they were all of a sudden gettin' 'er done, while the wives became the family vehicles to show off. And in one swoop, you got stuck with a suit as your only means of style, and we got all the fabulousness. Sure, it seems unfair, but I think you still own most of the \u003cem>Fortune\u003c/em> 500 companies, so whatever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, in light of the dating and clothing rules I just mentioned, let's talk about your dressing options. Here are some gentle guidelines designed to help you get the girls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong> *There will always be exceptions to the rules.\u003c/strong> I just want to point out that this is a subjective and personal list designed to illustrate what girls like me will like, not all women.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are a few celebrities that I would take in any form. Joaquin Phoenix, for example. Even in his \u003ca href=\"http://youtu.be/JZTmw26RYJU\">crazy phase\u003c/a>, with the disheveled hair and stoner scat-speech, and/or because of his harelip, I would help him make a full recovery to normalcy and hotness. Or Eric Northman from \u003cem>True Blood\u003c/em>. Sure, cut your hair, fine. Sure, wear my tank top. I don't mind.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>*If you are not a celebrity, but could pass for either of these men, dress however you want -- be my guest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110143\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 420px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110143\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/tenor.gif\" alt=\"Hot viking vampire god, Eric Northman, a.k.a. Alexander Skarsgard, can dress in a pashmina for all I care.\" width=\"420\" height=\"284\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hot viking vampire god, Eric Northman, a.k.a. Alexander Skarsgard, can dress in a pashmina for all I care.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110144\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 320px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110144\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/giphy.gif\" alt=\"Joaquin Phoenix can go crazy if he wants to.\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joaquin Phoenix can go crazy if he wants to.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Here are the obvious ones: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>1. No pajamas in public. \u003c/strong>I know, just like us, you have days off and you don't feel like putting in much effort. But never, under any circumstances, are you allowed to cruise around town in your pajamas, unless you want everyone to know you are a homesick college student, or perhaps a crackhead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110145\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110145\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-800x523.jpg\" alt=\"No, Robert Downey Jr. No.\" width=\"800\" height=\"523\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-800x523.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-160x105.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-768x502.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-1020x667.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-1200x784.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-1920x1255.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">No, Robert Downey Jr. No. \u003ccite>(Scott Halleran/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This goes for sweatpants, too. As Jerry Seinfeld can back me up, you basically just gave up on the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Hbu4Z4pGI?rel=0&w=420&h=315]\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\n2. No white guy dreadlocks.\u003c/strong> If you have to spend a lot of time making your hair into a textured, smelly mess, it's probably not meant to be. Everyone has always known this, except for Winona Ryder, who made an unfortunate error in judgment by dating the lead singer of Soul Asylum in the '90s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110146\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 327px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110146\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/MediocreMedicalAsp-small.gif\" alt=\"Winona Ryder's ex and his white boy dreads. \" width=\"327\" height=\"251\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Winona Ryder's ex and his white boy dreads.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>3. Dress like an adult.\u003c/strong> Also, if I can't see your ass, I can't see you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110147\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/poskehfwo48-800x450.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/poskehfwo48-800x450.gif 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/poskehfwo48-160x90.gif 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/poskehfwo48-768x432.gif 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/poskehfwo48-1020x574.gif 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/poskehfwo48-1200x675.gif 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong> 4. Speaking of pants, avoid \"jeggings.\" \u003c/strong>Please leave something to the imagination. Wearing girl jeans this tight tells me all I need to know and more about your chicken calves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110148\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/MasculineAccomplishedGhostshrimp-small.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>5. Obviously, no.\u003c/strong> We already talked about \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/02/06/are-you-a-closet-goth/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">how I feel about these goth pants\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110149 aligncenter\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/InfatuatedVioletFlyingfox-size_restricted.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"327\" height=\"251\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>And here are the not-as-obvious ones: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>1. Wear a suit.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I know it's been the same for 200 years, but we women still like the way you look -- just like that Men's Warehouse commercial -- in a suit. We don't really want you to change. Which is why this image from \u003ca href=\"redcarpet-fashionawards.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">redcarpet-fashionawards.com\u003c/a> is so funny. The awards ceremonies, like weddings, are not really for you -- you just have to show up and hold a purse for someone else.\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/01/a-style-guide-for-straight-guys/redcarpet-fashionawards-com/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3283\">\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter wp-image-3283\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/redcarpet-fashionawards.com_.jpg\" alt=\"redcarpet-fashionawards.com\" width=\"496\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/redcarpet-fashionawards.com_.jpg 620w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/redcarpet-fashionawards.com_-400x387.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/redcarpet-fashionawards.com_-32x32.jpg 32w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 496px) 100vw, 496px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong> 2. Don't be a douchebag. All I had to do was Google flip-flops.\u003c/strong> Fine, if you live in an ocean community, you can wear flip-flops. But somehow jocks got it in their head that if they combined baggy designer jeans and a guido-style button-up shirt with flip flops, it would be like catnip to us. Guess what? It's not. And we don't really want to see your feet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110140\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110140\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-800x547.jpg\" alt=\"I don't know how 'N Sync ever made it- there's only like 2 1/2 cute ones. And their stylist should be arrested. \" width=\"800\" height=\"547\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-800x547.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-160x109.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-768x525.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-1020x698.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-1200x821.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-1920x1313.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">I don't know how 'N Sync ever made it- there's only like 2 1/2 cute ones. And their stylist should be arrested. \u003ccite>(LUCY NICHOLSON/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_3258\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/01/a-style-guide-for-straight-guys/forsale/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3258\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-3258\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/denverpost.cpm_-300x193.jpg\" alt=\"forsale\" width=\"300\" height=\"193\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Look at this guy I found on denverpost.com. Doesn't he just look like he is convinced he's living out some \"Scarface\" fantasy on his honeymoon while mountain climbing and wine-tasting?\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>3. There are limits.\u003c/strong> Even for two of the hottest men on the planet, you just can't ever wear a college-dropout scrubby beanie or a thin, patchouli-scented hippy scarf. Ever. David Beckham and Johnny Depp should know better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110141\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110141\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-800x640.jpg\" alt=\"What's worse is that David Beckham is at a Lakers game, so it's probably not even cold out.\" width=\"800\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-800x640.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-160x128.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-768x614.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-1020x816.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-1200x960.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-1920x1536.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">What's worse is that David Beckham is at a Lakers game, so it's probably not even cold out. \u003ccite>(Noel Vasquez/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110142\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110142\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-800x722.jpg\" alt=\"Johnny Depp has been a pirate for too long.\" width=\"800\" height=\"722\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-800x722.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-160x144.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-768x693.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-1020x920.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-1200x1083.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-1920x1732.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Johnny Depp has been a pirate for too long. \u003ccite>(Carlos Alvarez/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>4. You can't groom yourself more than we do.\u003c/strong> We don't like it when your hair looks better than ours, or when you use our fancy, expensive shampoo.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110150\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/dappernm-800x450.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/dappernm-800x450.gif 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/dappernm-160x90.gif 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/dappernm-768x432.gif 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\"> If you're going to wear your hair long, it has to be a little unkept and ratty, a la the Grunge days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110151\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/giphy-1.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"364\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong> 5. Try going to an actual hair place and getting them to give you a real haircut.\u003c/strong> That means somewhere besides Supercuts and you will probably have to pay more than $10. Just do what we do, pick a celebrity, and copy them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110152\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 500px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110152\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/giphy-2.gif\" alt=\"Morrissey just found a style and stuck with it for the last forty years. It works.\" width=\"500\" height=\"369\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Morrissey just found a style and stuck with it for the last forty years. It works.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>6. You have to at least attempt to look like you have a job.\u003c/strong> That might make it seem like we are gold-diggers, but we just don't want to have to pick you up from your warehouse you share with six roommates and have to get the tip for you every single time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110153\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/giphy-3.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>7. Brand-whoring doesn't work, and please stay away from anything Kanye wears, ever.\u003c/strong> What does it even mean to have a \u003ca href=\"https://www.pinterest.es/amanalone/fashion-world/\">Fendi logo on your head\u003c/a>? Did Silvia Fendi come over and shave it in? I sort of understand the hip hop act of appropriating the culture of wealth as antagonism, but it still just makes it look like you are giving a label power over you. And it also makes you look like a billboard, like you're essentially wearing a Budwesier t-shirt. If you want to convey you have money, you should wear things that are obviously well-made. Those who are in the know, will know.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110154\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110154\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-800x522.jpg\" alt=\"Look, Will Smith understands understated. He's the boy, we just want him to look 'money', not wear $$money$$. \" width=\"800\" height=\"522\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-800x522.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-160x104.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-768x501.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-1020x665.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-1200x782.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-1920x1252.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Look, Will Smith understands understated. He's the boy, we just want him to look 'money', not wear $$money$$. \u003ccite>(Elisabetta Villa/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>8. If you don't have money, you can still fake it with a little swagger, a thrifted suit, and some crazy socks.\u003c/strong> Like this guy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110158\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2019-03-08-at-5.22.14-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"365\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2019-03-08-at-5.22.14-PM.png 550w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2019-03-08-at-5.22.14-PM-160x106.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>9. Keep your clothes on, even if you go to the gym.\u003c/strong> Ok, so you're not into suits. Fine. You don't have to show us your muscles to denote masculinity instead of money. Muscles to me say one thing: you spend all your free time at the gym, which is both boring and intimidating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110159\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-110159 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Look how much better Henry Rollins looks in a black t-shirt and pants, compared to his naked performance below. If all else fails, go for black jeans and a t-shirt, any time.\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-800x540.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-160x108.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-768x519.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-1020x689.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-1200x810.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-1920x1297.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Look how much better Henry Rollins looks in a black t-shirt and pants, compared to when he's running around shirtless and flexing. If all else fails, go for black jeans and a t-shirt, any time. \u003ccite>(Bryan Bedder/Getty Images for A+E Networks)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>10. You don't have to be a muscle man to win our hearts.\u003c/strong> We are OK with you being super skinny or a little rotund, because it makes us feel better about ourselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110162\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110162\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"The fine Mr. Adrien Brody, while sort of muscle-y, is probably made to be that way by his handlers since he is a movie star, after all. But I get the sense he is naturally super skinny.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-768x512.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The fine Mr. Adrien Brody, while sort of muscle-y, is probably made to be that way by his handlers since he is a movie star, after all. But I get the sense he is naturally super skinny. \u003ccite>(BORIS HORVAT/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110163\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 480px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110163\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/196217268_805914644001_AMC-InsideTheKilling-S1-Character-StanLarsen.jpg\" alt='I kind of have a sweet spot for the teddy-bearish working man, Stan Larsen, from \"The Killing\". ' width=\"480\" height=\"270\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/196217268_805914644001_AMC-InsideTheKilling-S1-Character-StanLarsen.jpg 480w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/196217268_805914644001_AMC-InsideTheKilling-S1-Character-StanLarsen-160x90.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">I kind of have a sweet spot for the teddy-bearish working man, Stan Larsen, from \"The Killing\". \u003ccite>(AMC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>11. Have confidence.\u003c/strong> Just look at Prince. He's a tiny man who wears ruffles, but I wouldn't trust myself alone with him. He is the definition of confidence, to a panty-dropping T.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110164\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Prince-Purple-Rain.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"431\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Prince-Purple-Rain.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Prince-Purple-Rain-160x90.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\n\u003c/p>\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">Or, take Lemmy from Motorhead. Not the most attractive man, especially with the moles, but you can just look at him and tell he knows exactly what he likes and who he is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110165\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110165\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-800x525.jpg\" alt=\"Lemmy likes black and cowboy hats, and has been wearing the same thing for forty years. He also has too much speed in his veins to ever safely detox or he'll go into shock, but we don't have to talk about that.\" width=\"800\" height=\"525\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-800x525.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-160x105.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-768x504.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-1020x669.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-1200x788.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-1920x1260.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lemmy likes black and cowboy hats, and has been wearing the same thing for forty years. He also has too much speed in his veins to ever safely detox or he'll go into shock, but we don't have to talk about that. \u003ccite>(Chung Sung-Jun/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>12. Speaking of Lemmy, be a bad boy.\u003c/strong> I mean, if you have those tendencies. If not, don't fake it. Until we get older, bad boys have their time and place as a great distraction from our boring lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110166\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110166\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/stones1_wide-64af8c85861fd98ad06fcc90d4b2c92cc5082ff5-s800-c85-800x449.jpg\" alt=\"Mick Jagger and Keith Richards in all their sexy, '70s glory. \" width=\"800\" height=\"449\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/stones1_wide-64af8c85861fd98ad06fcc90d4b2c92cc5082ff5-s800-c85.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/stones1_wide-64af8c85861fd98ad06fcc90d4b2c92cc5082ff5-s800-c85-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/stones1_wide-64af8c85861fd98ad06fcc90d4b2c92cc5082ff5-s800-c85-768x431.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mick Jagger and Keith Richards in all their sexy, '70s glory. \u003ccite>('Stones In Exile')\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">Sooner or later, we grow out of bad boys. Probably because they don't age well. And if they're not rock stars, they have a high chance of becoming the homeless alcoholics that live near your dumpster.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110167\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110167\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-800x658.jpg\" alt=\"Not quite as sexy now, are they? \" width=\"800\" height=\"658\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-800x658.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-160x132.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-768x632.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-1020x840.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-1200x988.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-1920x1580.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Not quite as sexy now, are they? \u003ccite>(BORIS HORVAT/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>13. Did we talk about how hot tattoos are?\u003c/strong> OK, I know it's such a cliche, and I am outing myself big time right now for being so superficial, but tattoos totally work. As in, on my wild, wild heart. But the reason is not that they signify tough guys, cause yeah, I know that they do, but because to me, they say that you don't take yourself so seriously. Why does your body have to be a temple? Can't it just be some thing you write dumb things on? It's especially refreshing when you're not afraid to get stupid tattoos, like Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and his elephants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110168 aligncenter\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/tenor-1.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"498\" height=\"372\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>14. Let's talk about shoes.\u003c/strong> If you are one of those guys with a sneaker collection, you're just showing the world that you are an over-paid infantile computer programmer who plays video games with internet strangers every day of the week instead of spending your money on a few pairs of classy shoes that you could wear to a nice restaurant. You think your day-glo sneakers express how \"funky fresh\" you are, but they don't.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_3288\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 429px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/01/a-style-guide-for-straight-guys/melrosenadspaulding-com/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3288\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-3288\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/melrosenadspaulding.com_-682x1024.jpg\" alt=\"melrosenadspaulding.com\" width=\"429\" height=\"645\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Just get some Vans. From melroseandspaulding.com.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">Maybe try Red Wing worker boots with a good pair of jeans?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110169\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-768x512.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>15. I'll respect your authority occasionally.\u003c/strong> These boots touch on another slightly underplayed style trait that girls like to secretly dig: Authority is hot. These boots remind me of both a punk and a cop and I am pretty into it. Let me state for the record that yes, of course, cops are lame, but, just like your \"madonna/whore\" complex, girls are equally into boot-wearing authority figures and soft-spoken boat shoes kind of boys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110176\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2019-03-08-at-6.29.52-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"586\" height=\"387\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2019-03-08-at-6.29.52-PM.png 586w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2019-03-08-at-6.29.52-PM-160x106.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 586px) 100vw, 586px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\n\u003c/p>\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>16. Enough with the beards. Seriously.\u003c/strong> Did you hear me, San Francisco? Enough. Look, I know that shaving is probably really annoying, but please \u003cem>think\u003c/em> about shaving.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110170\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/tenor-1-1.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"270\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">And another thing about beards: Let the bears have their culture back. I'm sure they are annoyed and confused.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/01/a-style-guide-for-straight-guys/6a00d8341c5d9653ef0120a5ccb10c970b/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3291\">\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3291\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/6a00d8341c5d9653ef0120a5ccb10c970b.jpg\" alt=\"6a00d8341c5d9653ef0120a5ccb10c970b\" width=\"300\" height=\"391\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>17. Wear clothes that fit you.\u003c/strong> Look at this guy -- he's just some regular guy, but he looks great because he is actually wearing the right size. If you are confused, ask a salesperson to help you. That's what they are there for. Or take a gay or a girl along. That's what \u003cem>they\u003c/em> are there for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110171\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-800x788.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"788\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-800x788.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-160x158.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-768x756.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-1020x1005.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-1200x1182.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-1920x1891.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-32x32.jpg 32w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-50x50.jpg 50w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-64x64.jpg 64w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-96x96.jpg 96w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>18. When in doubt, go nautical.\u003c/strong> Never underestimate the appeal of a sailor outfit or a grandpa cardigan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110174\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/giphy-4.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>19. Dress like a normal person.\u003c/strong> Look at this guy. He's just a dude, wearing dude clothes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110172\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-768x512.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So I should probably tell you that my boyfriend is European, so I have it easier than most, and maybe he has raised my expectations. He knows how to wear a pair of pants that fit, but that doesn't mean he is a walk in the park. Every time he agrees to go shopping, we spend an hour on his clothes and then he's too tired when I want to shop for myself. That being said, it's opened my eyes to your potential, boys. So, remember what we talked about -- there are things that girls like and things that we don't, but above all else just remember...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>20. Be yourself. \u003c/strong>But try a little.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Do you wear sweatpants? Day-glo sneakers? Flip flops to dinner? Denied! Here are some guidelines for how to get the girls.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1552098666,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":36,"wordCount":2545},"headData":{"title":"A Style Guide for Straight Guys | KQED","description":"Do you wear sweatpants? Day-glo sneakers? Flip flops to dinner? Denied! Here are some guidelines for how to get the girls.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"3254 http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/?p=3254","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/01/a-style-guide-for-straight-guys/","disqusTitle":"A Style Guide for Straight Guys","path":"/pop/3254/a-style-guide-for-straight-guys","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/01/a-style-guide-for-straight-guys/2091ea1/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3348\">\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-3348\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/2091EA1.jpg\" alt=\"2091EA~1\" width=\"720\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/2091EA1.jpg 720w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/2091EA1-400x222.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/2091EA1-672x372.jpg 672w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 720px) 100vw, 720px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Hello, boys. Frankly, if a man wrote an article attempting to guide my own dressing habits towards a more male-friendly appearance, I would be miffed and dismiss him entirely. What right does a man have to tell a woman how to dress? You've been throwing hints at us since the dawn of time, and we already know what you like, anyway. There's a reason Victoria's Secret and stores that sell stripper heels stay in business -- that's what you like, not what we like, and we'll agree to throw you a literal bone every once in awhile. The main thing to remember, however, is that women dress for women, as in, we wear fashion to impress and compete with each other. It doesn't have much to do with you. You will take us in a sack-like dress, just like \u003ca href=\"http://onthisdayinfashion.com/?p=11761\">Molly Ringwald in Pretty in Pink\u003c/a>, as long as you can eventually see our boobs.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>On the other hand, straight men need to dress for women. They might not always do so, or they might not know how. What's at stake in our whole gender game is that \u003cem>you\u003c/em> need to convince \u003cem>us\u003c/em> to go home with you in our Molly Ringwald sack dress, so we can show you our boobs. If you aren't convincing, someone else just might be, and therein lies the scientific process of natural selection, my friend.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Sure, there are other factors in the decision process -- I mean, we aren't \u003cem>completely\u003c/em> superficial, you have to be capable of having a conversation, etc, but what you need to understand is that we have a new world order out here. There was a time when women were just dying to get married because it was the only way we could survive. These days we've got our jobs and our cake, too. If you want to have a partner in crime, you've got to have a crime worth committing, if you catch my drift.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/Xevjs_dtkk8?rel=0'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/Xevjs_dtkk8?rel=0'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>The bad news is that you don't really get a whole lot of clothing options in contemporary society. It's sad, but you basically just get the pants/shirt/jacket combo in various iterations. In my MFA thesis research on dress, I learned something important about your clothes. Back in the era of kings and serfdom, power was connoted with leisure. Men and women in high society got to convey their status through ostentatious fancy clothing. However, along came the Industrial Revolution. All of a sudden, power was synonymous with work. Men wore serious, identical suits because they were all of a sudden gettin' 'er done, while the wives became the family vehicles to show off. And in one swoop, you got stuck with a suit as your only means of style, and we got all the fabulousness. Sure, it seems unfair, but I think you still own most of the \u003cem>Fortune\u003c/em> 500 companies, so whatever.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So, in light of the dating and clothing rules I just mentioned, let's talk about your dressing options. Here are some gentle guidelines designed to help you get the girls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong> *There will always be exceptions to the rules.\u003c/strong> I just want to point out that this is a subjective and personal list designed to illustrate what girls like me will like, not all women.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are a few celebrities that I would take in any form. Joaquin Phoenix, for example. Even in his \u003ca href=\"http://youtu.be/JZTmw26RYJU\">crazy phase\u003c/a>, with the disheveled hair and stoner scat-speech, and/or because of his harelip, I would help him make a full recovery to normalcy and hotness. Or Eric Northman from \u003cem>True Blood\u003c/em>. Sure, cut your hair, fine. Sure, wear my tank top. I don't mind.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>*If you are not a celebrity, but could pass for either of these men, dress however you want -- be my guest.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110143\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 420px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110143\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/tenor.gif\" alt=\"Hot viking vampire god, Eric Northman, a.k.a. Alexander Skarsgard, can dress in a pashmina for all I care.\" width=\"420\" height=\"284\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hot viking vampire god, Eric Northman, a.k.a. Alexander Skarsgard, can dress in a pashmina for all I care.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110144\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 320px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110144\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/giphy.gif\" alt=\"Joaquin Phoenix can go crazy if he wants to.\" width=\"320\" height=\"240\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Joaquin Phoenix can go crazy if he wants to.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Here are the obvious ones: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>1. No pajamas in public. \u003c/strong>I know, just like us, you have days off and you don't feel like putting in much effort. But never, under any circumstances, are you allowed to cruise around town in your pajamas, unless you want everyone to know you are a homesick college student, or perhaps a crackhead.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110145\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110145\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-800x523.jpg\" alt=\"No, Robert Downey Jr. No.\" width=\"800\" height=\"523\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-800x523.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-160x105.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-768x502.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-1020x667.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-1200x784.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059-1920x1255.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-56636059.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">No, Robert Downey Jr. No. \u003ccite>(Scott Halleran/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>This goes for sweatpants, too. As Jerry Seinfeld can back me up, you basically just gave up on the world.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/-0Hbu4Z4pGI?rel=0'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/-0Hbu4Z4pGI?rel=0'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\u003cbr>\n2. No white guy dreadlocks.\u003c/strong> If you have to spend a lot of time making your hair into a textured, smelly mess, it's probably not meant to be. Everyone has always known this, except for Winona Ryder, who made an unfortunate error in judgment by dating the lead singer of Soul Asylum in the '90s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110146\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 327px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110146\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/MediocreMedicalAsp-small.gif\" alt=\"Winona Ryder's ex and his white boy dreads. \" width=\"327\" height=\"251\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Winona Ryder's ex and his white boy dreads.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>3. Dress like an adult.\u003c/strong> Also, if I can't see your ass, I can't see you.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110147\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/poskehfwo48-800x450.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/poskehfwo48-800x450.gif 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/poskehfwo48-160x90.gif 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/poskehfwo48-768x432.gif 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/poskehfwo48-1020x574.gif 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/poskehfwo48-1200x675.gif 1200w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong> 4. Speaking of pants, avoid \"jeggings.\" \u003c/strong>Please leave something to the imagination. Wearing girl jeans this tight tells me all I need to know and more about your chicken calves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110148\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/MasculineAccomplishedGhostshrimp-small.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>5. Obviously, no.\u003c/strong> We already talked about \u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/02/06/are-you-a-closet-goth/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">how I feel about these goth pants\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110149 aligncenter\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/InfatuatedVioletFlyingfox-size_restricted.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"327\" height=\"251\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>And here are the not-as-obvious ones: \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>1. Wear a suit.\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I know it's been the same for 200 years, but we women still like the way you look -- just like that Men's Warehouse commercial -- in a suit. We don't really want you to change. Which is why this image from \u003ca href=\"redcarpet-fashionawards.com\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">redcarpet-fashionawards.com\u003c/a> is so funny. The awards ceremonies, like weddings, are not really for you -- you just have to show up and hold a purse for someone else.\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/01/a-style-guide-for-straight-guys/redcarpet-fashionawards-com/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3283\">\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter wp-image-3283\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/redcarpet-fashionawards.com_.jpg\" alt=\"redcarpet-fashionawards.com\" width=\"496\" height=\"480\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/redcarpet-fashionawards.com_.jpg 620w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/redcarpet-fashionawards.com_-400x387.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/redcarpet-fashionawards.com_-32x32.jpg 32w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 496px) 100vw, 496px\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong> 2. Don't be a douchebag. All I had to do was Google flip-flops.\u003c/strong> Fine, if you live in an ocean community, you can wear flip-flops. But somehow jocks got it in their head that if they combined baggy designer jeans and a guido-style button-up shirt with flip flops, it would be like catnip to us. Guess what? It's not. And we don't really want to see your feet.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110140\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110140\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-800x547.jpg\" alt=\"I don't know how 'N Sync ever made it- there's only like 2 1/2 cute ones. And their stylist should be arrested. \" width=\"800\" height=\"547\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-800x547.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-160x109.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-768x525.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-1020x698.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-1200x821.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515-1920x1313.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-51583515.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">I don't know how 'N Sync ever made it- there's only like 2 1/2 cute ones. And their stylist should be arrested. \u003ccite>(LUCY NICHOLSON/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_3258\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 300px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/01/a-style-guide-for-straight-guys/forsale/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3258\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-3258\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/denverpost.cpm_-300x193.jpg\" alt=\"forsale\" width=\"300\" height=\"193\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Look at this guy I found on denverpost.com. Doesn't he just look like he is convinced he's living out some \"Scarface\" fantasy on his honeymoon while mountain climbing and wine-tasting?\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>3. There are limits.\u003c/strong> Even for two of the hottest men on the planet, you just can't ever wear a college-dropout scrubby beanie or a thin, patchouli-scented hippy scarf. Ever. David Beckham and Johnny Depp should know better.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110141\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110141\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-800x640.jpg\" alt=\"What's worse is that David Beckham is at a Lakers game, so it's probably not even cold out.\" width=\"800\" height=\"640\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-800x640.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-160x128.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-768x614.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-1020x816.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-1200x960.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428-1920x1536.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-113203428.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">What's worse is that David Beckham is at a Lakers game, so it's probably not even cold out. \u003ccite>(Noel Vasquez/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110142\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110142\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-800x722.jpg\" alt=\"Johnny Depp has been a pirate for too long.\" width=\"800\" height=\"722\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-800x722.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-160x144.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-768x693.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-1020x920.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-1200x1083.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755-1920x1732.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-107627755.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Johnny Depp has been a pirate for too long. \u003ccite>(Carlos Alvarez/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>4. You can't groom yourself more than we do.\u003c/strong> We don't like it when your hair looks better than ours, or when you use our fancy, expensive shampoo.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110150\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/dappernm-800x450.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/dappernm-800x450.gif 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/dappernm-160x90.gif 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/dappernm-768x432.gif 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\"> If you're going to wear your hair long, it has to be a little unkept and ratty, a la the Grunge days.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110151\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/giphy-1.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"364\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong> 5. Try going to an actual hair place and getting them to give you a real haircut.\u003c/strong> That means somewhere besides Supercuts and you will probably have to pay more than $10. Just do what we do, pick a celebrity, and copy them.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110152\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 500px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110152\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/giphy-2.gif\" alt=\"Morrissey just found a style and stuck with it for the last forty years. It works.\" width=\"500\" height=\"369\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Morrissey just found a style and stuck with it for the last forty years. It works.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>6. You have to at least attempt to look like you have a job.\u003c/strong> That might make it seem like we are gold-diggers, but we just don't want to have to pick you up from your warehouse you share with six roommates and have to get the tip for you every single time.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110153\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/giphy-3.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>7. Brand-whoring doesn't work, and please stay away from anything Kanye wears, ever.\u003c/strong> What does it even mean to have a \u003ca href=\"https://www.pinterest.es/amanalone/fashion-world/\">Fendi logo on your head\u003c/a>? Did Silvia Fendi come over and shave it in? I sort of understand the hip hop act of appropriating the culture of wealth as antagonism, but it still just makes it look like you are giving a label power over you. And it also makes you look like a billboard, like you're essentially wearing a Budwesier t-shirt. If you want to convey you have money, you should wear things that are obviously well-made. Those who are in the know, will know.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110154\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110154\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-800x522.jpg\" alt=\"Look, Will Smith understands understated. He's the boy, we just want him to look 'money', not wear $$money$$. \" width=\"800\" height=\"522\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-800x522.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-160x104.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-768x501.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-1020x665.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-1200x782.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774-1920x1252.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-72977774.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Look, Will Smith understands understated. He's the boy, we just want him to look 'money', not wear $$money$$. \u003ccite>(Elisabetta Villa/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>8. If you don't have money, you can still fake it with a little swagger, a thrifted suit, and some crazy socks.\u003c/strong> Like this guy.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110158\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2019-03-08-at-5.22.14-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"550\" height=\"365\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2019-03-08-at-5.22.14-PM.png 550w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2019-03-08-at-5.22.14-PM-160x106.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>9. Keep your clothes on, even if you go to the gym.\u003c/strong> Ok, so you're not into suits. Fine. You don't have to show us your muscles to denote masculinity instead of money. Muscles to me say one thing: you spend all your free time at the gym, which is both boring and intimidating.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110159\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"wp-image-110159 size-medium\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-800x540.jpg\" alt=\"Look how much better Henry Rollins looks in a black t-shirt and pants, compared to his naked performance below. If all else fails, go for black jeans and a t-shirt, any time.\" width=\"800\" height=\"540\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-800x540.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-160x108.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-768x519.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-1020x689.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-1200x810.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277-1920x1297.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-488820277.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Look how much better Henry Rollins looks in a black t-shirt and pants, compared to when he's running around shirtless and flexing. If all else fails, go for black jeans and a t-shirt, any time. \u003ccite>(Bryan Bedder/Getty Images for A+E Networks)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>10. You don't have to be a muscle man to win our hearts.\u003c/strong> We are OK with you being super skinny or a little rotund, because it makes us feel better about ourselves.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110162\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110162\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"The fine Mr. Adrien Brody, while sort of muscle-y, is probably made to be that way by his handlers since he is a movie star, after all. But I get the sense he is naturally super skinny.\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-768x512.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-50820918.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">The fine Mr. Adrien Brody, while sort of muscle-y, is probably made to be that way by his handlers since he is a movie star, after all. But I get the sense he is naturally super skinny. \u003ccite>(BORIS HORVAT/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110163\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 480px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110163\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/196217268_805914644001_AMC-InsideTheKilling-S1-Character-StanLarsen.jpg\" alt='I kind of have a sweet spot for the teddy-bearish working man, Stan Larsen, from \"The Killing\". ' width=\"480\" height=\"270\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/196217268_805914644001_AMC-InsideTheKilling-S1-Character-StanLarsen.jpg 480w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/196217268_805914644001_AMC-InsideTheKilling-S1-Character-StanLarsen-160x90.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 480px) 100vw, 480px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">I kind of have a sweet spot for the teddy-bearish working man, Stan Larsen, from \"The Killing\". \u003ccite>(AMC)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>11. Have confidence.\u003c/strong> Just look at Prince. He's a tiny man who wears ruffles, but I wouldn't trust myself alone with him. He is the definition of confidence, to a panty-dropping T.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110164\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Prince-Purple-Rain.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"768\" height=\"431\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Prince-Purple-Rain.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Prince-Purple-Rain-160x90.jpg 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\n\u003c/p>\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">Or, take Lemmy from Motorhead. Not the most attractive man, especially with the moles, but you can just look at him and tell he knows exactly what he likes and who he is.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110165\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110165\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-800x525.jpg\" alt=\"Lemmy likes black and cowboy hats, and has been wearing the same thing for forty years. He also has too much speed in his veins to ever safely detox or he'll go into shock, but we don't have to talk about that.\" width=\"800\" height=\"525\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-800x525.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-160x105.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-768x504.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-1020x669.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-1200x788.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826-1920x1260.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-482009826.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Lemmy likes black and cowboy hats, and has been wearing the same thing for forty years. He also has too much speed in his veins to ever safely detox or he'll go into shock, but we don't have to talk about that. \u003ccite>(Chung Sung-Jun/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>12. Speaking of Lemmy, be a bad boy.\u003c/strong> I mean, if you have those tendencies. If not, don't fake it. Until we get older, bad boys have their time and place as a great distraction from our boring lives.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110166\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110166\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/stones1_wide-64af8c85861fd98ad06fcc90d4b2c92cc5082ff5-s800-c85-800x449.jpg\" alt=\"Mick Jagger and Keith Richards in all their sexy, '70s glory. \" width=\"800\" height=\"449\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/stones1_wide-64af8c85861fd98ad06fcc90d4b2c92cc5082ff5-s800-c85.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/stones1_wide-64af8c85861fd98ad06fcc90d4b2c92cc5082ff5-s800-c85-160x90.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/stones1_wide-64af8c85861fd98ad06fcc90d4b2c92cc5082ff5-s800-c85-768x431.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mick Jagger and Keith Richards in all their sexy, '70s glory. \u003ccite>('Stones In Exile')\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">Sooner or later, we grow out of bad boys. Probably because they don't age well. And if they're not rock stars, they have a high chance of becoming the homeless alcoholics that live near your dumpster.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_110167\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-110167\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-800x658.jpg\" alt=\"Not quite as sexy now, are they? \" width=\"800\" height=\"658\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-800x658.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-160x132.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-768x632.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-1020x840.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-1200x988.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078-1920x1580.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/GettyImages-984946078.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Not quite as sexy now, are they? \u003ccite>(BORIS HORVAT/AFP/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>13. Did we talk about how hot tattoos are?\u003c/strong> OK, I know it's such a cliche, and I am outing myself big time right now for being so superficial, but tattoos totally work. As in, on my wild, wild heart. But the reason is not that they signify tough guys, cause yeah, I know that they do, but because to me, they say that you don't take yourself so seriously. Why does your body have to be a temple? Can't it just be some thing you write dumb things on? It's especially refreshing when you're not afraid to get stupid tattoos, like Flea from the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and his elephants.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"size-full wp-image-110168 aligncenter\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/tenor-1.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"498\" height=\"372\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>14. Let's talk about shoes.\u003c/strong> If you are one of those guys with a sneaker collection, you're just showing the world that you are an over-paid infantile computer programmer who plays video games with internet strangers every day of the week instead of spending your money on a few pairs of classy shoes that you could wear to a nice restaurant. You think your day-glo sneakers express how \"funky fresh\" you are, but they don't.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_3288\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 429px\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/01/a-style-guide-for-straight-guys/melrosenadspaulding-com/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3288\">\u003cimg class=\" wp-image-3288\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/melrosenadspaulding.com_-682x1024.jpg\" alt=\"melrosenadspaulding.com\" width=\"429\" height=\"645\">\u003c/a>\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Just get some Vans. From melroseandspaulding.com.\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">Maybe try Red Wing worker boots with a good pair of jeans?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110169\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-768x512.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/jacob-rank-111336-unsplash.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>15. I'll respect your authority occasionally.\u003c/strong> These boots touch on another slightly underplayed style trait that girls like to secretly dig: Authority is hot. These boots remind me of both a punk and a cop and I am pretty into it. Let me state for the record that yes, of course, cops are lame, but, just like your \"madonna/whore\" complex, girls are equally into boot-wearing authority figures and soft-spoken boat shoes kind of boys.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110176\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2019-03-08-at-6.29.52-PM.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"586\" height=\"387\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2019-03-08-at-6.29.52-PM.png 586w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/Screen-Shot-2019-03-08-at-6.29.52-PM-160x106.png 160w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 586px) 100vw, 586px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\n\u003c/p>\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>16. Enough with the beards. Seriously.\u003c/strong> Did you hear me, San Francisco? Enough. Look, I know that shaving is probably really annoying, but please \u003cem>think\u003c/em> about shaving.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110170\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/tenor-1-1.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"480\" height=\"270\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">And another thing about beards: Let the bears have their culture back. I'm sure they are annoyed and confused.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">\u003ca href=\"http://blogs.kqed.org/pop/2013/04/01/a-style-guide-for-straight-guys/6a00d8341c5d9653ef0120a5ccb10c970b/\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3291\">\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-3291\" src=\"http://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/03/6a00d8341c5d9653ef0120a5ccb10c970b.jpg\" alt=\"6a00d8341c5d9653ef0120a5ccb10c970b\" width=\"300\" height=\"391\">\u003c/a>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>17. Wear clothes that fit you.\u003c/strong> Look at this guy -- he's just some regular guy, but he looks great because he is actually wearing the right size. If you are confused, ask a salesperson to help you. That's what they are there for. Or take a gay or a girl along. That's what \u003cem>they\u003c/em> are there for.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110171\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-800x788.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"788\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-800x788.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-160x158.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-768x756.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-1020x1005.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-1200x1182.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-1920x1891.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-32x32.jpg 32w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-50x50.jpg 50w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-64x64.jpg 64w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash-96x96.jpg 96w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/keenan-lynch-384122-unsplash.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>18. When in doubt, go nautical.\u003c/strong> Never underestimate the appeal of a sailor outfit or a grandpa cardigan.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-110174\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/giphy-4.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: left\">\u003cstrong>19. Dress like a normal person.\u003c/strong> Look at this guy. He's just a dude, wearing dude clothes.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cimg class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-110172\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-768x512.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2013/04/thierry-ambraisse-200857-unsplash.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So I should probably tell you that my boyfriend is European, so I have it easier than most, and maybe he has raised my expectations. He knows how to wear a pair of pants that fit, but that doesn't mean he is a walk in the park. Every time he agrees to go shopping, we spend an hour on his clothes and then he's too tired when I want to shop for myself. That being said, it's opened my eyes to your potential, boys. So, remember what we talked about -- there are things that girls like and things that we don't, but above all else just remember...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>20. 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