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Kelly Literally Screams His Innocence","publishDate":1551901132,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>R&B star R. Kelly has given his first interview since being charged with aggravated criminal sexual assault late last month. The conversation, which journalist Gayle King taped Tuesday at Kelly's apartment at the Trump Tower Chicago, began airing on Wednesday in three segments on \u003cem>CBS This Morning\u003c/em>. The network says it will air more from the interview on Thursday and Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kelly was charged in Cook County, Ill., in February on 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual assault against four alleged victims, three of them minors. As he has throughout his career, Kelly denied all the allegations against him during the interview. By turns belligerent, tearful and relatively calm, he also asserted that the women who have accused him are chasing money and fame of their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most striking element of the interview was Kelly's behavior. In narrated commentary, King said the singer became outwardly emotional several times. At one point, he stood towering \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BupaXcgjHB_/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link\">over a calm King\u003c/a>, literally shrieking, crying, pounding his fists and beating his chest on camera while a handler held him back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was an astonishing visual, especially given the decades-long list of public accusations from women who say Kelly abused them—and considering that the interview may well be used in court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Y'all trying to kill me!\" he screamed. \"You're killing me, man! This thing's not about music. I'm trying to have a relationship with my kids, and I can't do it. Y'all just don't want to believe the truth!\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1AWWOxBE-8\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Among Kelly's past accusers is his \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2018/10/09/655803259/r-kellys-ex-wife-accuses-him-of-physical-abuse\">ex-wife, Andrea Kelly\u003c/a>, who alleged physical abuse in a 2018 interview. Last month, multiple press outlets reported that according to court documents, Kelly owes \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/24/entertainment/r-kelly-bond-sunday/index.html\">more than $160,000\u003c/a> in unpaid child support from that relationship. In January, Kelly's estranged daughter, Buku Abi (whose birth name is Joann Kelly), posted a lengthy note on Instagram in which she called her father a \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/11/683936629/r-kelly-allegations-an-abridged-history\">monster\u003c/a>\" and wrote: \"My mother, siblings, and I would never condone, support or be apart [\u003cem>sic\u003c/em>] of ANYTHING negative he has done and or continues to do in his life.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the course of speaking with King, Kelly made a startling new accusation. King broached the subject of two women who are currently living with him, 23-year-old Joycelyn Savage and 21-year-old Azriel Clary; the women's parents have claimed that their daughters are being held in an R. Kelly \"cult,\" an allegation first made public in a 2017 BuzzFeed investigation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the CBS interview on Wednesday, Kelly asked: \"What kind of father, what kind of mother, will sell their daughter to a man?\" He alleged that the two women's parents had approached Kelly when their daughters were teenagers, with hopes that Kelly would make their children into stars. He also intimated that the parents had received some kind of compensation from him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both women's parents responded to Kelly's comments on Wednesday morning. Through their lawyer, Michael Avenatti, the Clarys \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1103286370183766016\">stated\u003c/a>: \"We never received a penny from R. Kelly. We have never asked R. Kelly for money. And we never 'sold' our daughter to him or anyone else. R. Kelly is a desperate liar and serial abuser of young girls who should die in prison.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The lawyer for the Savages, Gerald Griggs, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/AttorneyGriggs/status/1103273630107078658\">wrote\u003c/a> on Twitter: \"At no point did the Savages sell #JoycelynSavage to @rkelly. No money was ever requested or given to the Savages.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CBS says Gayle King also spoke directly to both Savage and Clary and will air conversations with them on Friday morning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003c/em>\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=On+CBS%2C+An+Indicted+R.+Kelly+Literally+Screams+His+Innocence+&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Speaking to anchor Gayle King, the singer vehemently denied the allegations against him, including those made in a recent indictment.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1551901132,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":13,"wordCount":622},"headData":{"title":"On CBS, an Indicted R. 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The conversation, which journalist Gayle King taped Tuesday at Kelly's apartment at the Trump Tower Chicago, began airing on Wednesday in three segments on \u003cem>CBS This Morning\u003c/em>. The network says it will air more from the interview on Thursday and Friday.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kelly was charged in Cook County, Ill., in February on 10 counts of aggravated criminal sexual assault against four alleged victims, three of them minors. As he has throughout his career, Kelly denied all the allegations against him during the interview. By turns belligerent, tearful and relatively calm, he also asserted that the women who have accused him are chasing money and fame of their own.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The most striking element of the interview was Kelly's behavior. In narrated commentary, King said the singer became outwardly emotional several times. At one point, he stood towering \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BupaXcgjHB_/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link\">over a calm King\u003c/a>, literally shrieking, crying, pounding his fists and beating his chest on camera while a handler held him back.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It was an astonishing visual, especially given the decades-long list of public accusations from women who say Kelly abused them—and considering that the interview may well be used in court.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"Y'all trying to kill me!\" he screamed. \"You're killing me, man! This thing's not about music. I'm trying to have a relationship with my kids, and I can't do it. 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King broached the subject of two women who are currently living with him, 23-year-old Joycelyn Savage and 21-year-old Azriel Clary; the women's parents have claimed that their daughters are being held in an R. Kelly \"cult,\" an allegation first made public in a 2017 BuzzFeed investigation.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In the CBS interview on Wednesday, Kelly asked: \"What kind of father, what kind of mother, will sell their daughter to a man?\" He alleged that the two women's parents had approached Kelly when their daughters were teenagers, with hopes that Kelly would make their children into stars. He also intimated that the parents had received some kind of compensation from him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Both women's parents responded to Kelly's comments on Wednesday morning. Through their lawyer, Michael Avenatti, the Clarys \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1103286370183766016\">stated\u003c/a>: \"We never received a penny from R. Kelly. We have never asked R. Kelly for money. And we never 'sold' our daughter to him or anyone else. R. Kelly is a desperate liar and serial abuser of young girls who should die in prison.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The lawyer for the Savages, Gerald Griggs, \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/AttorneyGriggs/status/1103273630107078658\">wrote\u003c/a> on Twitter: \"At no point did the Savages sell #JoycelynSavage to @rkelly. No money was ever requested or given to the Savages.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>CBS says Gayle King also spoke directly to both Savage and Clary and will air conversations with them on Friday morning.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003c/em>\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=On+CBS%2C+An+Indicted+R.+Kelly+Literally+Screams+His+Innocence+&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/109968/on-cbs-an-indicted-r-kelly-literally-screams-his-innocence","authors":["byline_pop_109968"],"categories":["pop_4","pop_3","pop_1041"],"tags":["pop_3426","pop_3490","pop_463","pop_3475"],"featImg":"pop_109969","label":"pop"},"pop_109631":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_109631","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"109631","score":null,"sort":[1550863846000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"i-want-justice-r-kelly-accused-of-sexual-misconduct-by-2-more-women","title":"'I Want Justice:' R. Kelly Accused of Sexual Misconduct by 2 More Women","publishDate":1550863846,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>Two new accusers have come forward against R. Kelly, claiming that the embattled singer sought to have sex with them when they were minors, more than two decades ago. At a news conference Thursday in New York City, Rochelle Washington and Latresa Scaff related the story of a traumatic encounter that allegedly occurred after one of Kelly's performances in the mid-1990s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Washington and Scaff, now 39 and 40, respectively, claim that when they were 15 and 16 years old when they attended an after-party together in Baltimore in either 1995 or '96—they could not recall which. There, they say they were offered alcohol, marijuana and cocaine—though they say they didn't consume the latter—and Kelly asked them to meet him in his hotel suite later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scaff says that Kelly had his genitals exposed when he eventually entered the room. And he allegedly propositioned both—but Washington, who says she had been recently raped in a separate incident, says she soon left the room.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When Kelly was alone with me,\" Scaff told reporters, \"he asked me to perform oral sex on him. I was under the influence of marijuana and alcohol and did it. He then had sexual intercourse with me even though I did not have the capacity to consent.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>R. Kelly's legal team did not immediately respond to NPR's request for comment. But Kelly himself has repeatedly denied wrongdoing for years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new claims come amid a rising tide of allegations against the 52-year-old artist, who has been dogged for roughly a quarter-century by reports that he has abused underage girls. For nearly a decade after Kelly was cleared of child pornography charges in 2008, many of those questions quieted—only to be stirred to life again by a 2017 \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jimderogatis/parents-told-police-r-kelly-is-keeping-women-in-a-cult\">BuzzFeed investigation\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since then, more women have come forward accusing the star of sexual misconduct and abuse, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/11/683936629/r-kelly-allegations-an-abridged-history#wife\">including Kelly's ex-wife\u003c/a>, Andrea Kelly. And the new year has brought a \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/03/681851521/lifetimes-series-about-r-kelly-depicts-a-darker-side-to-the-singer\">popular docuseries\u003c/a> from Lifetime on the allegations, a flurry of \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/10/683900713/lady-gaga-apologizes-for-r-kelly-collaboration-in-wake-of-lifetime-series\">disavowals \u003c/a>from former collaborators, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/685912752/the-muterkelly-movement-takes-its-protest-to-the-steps-of-his-record-label\">protests \u003c/a>from activist groups, and public pressure that led to his record label \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/18/686641970/r-kelly-has-been-dropped-by-rca-records-billboard-reports\">dropping him\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gloria Allred, the attorney representing Scaff and Washington, also \u003ca href=\"http://gothamist.com/2019/01/14/r_kelly_accuser_is_meeting_with_nyp.php\">alleged last month\u003c/a> that another client of hers, Faith Rodgers, suffered retaliation for speaking out against Kelly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_109636\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-109636\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Faith Rodgers speaks as attorney Gloria Allred looks on during a press conference to discuss Rodgers' allegations of sexual, physical and mental abuse against singer R. Kelly. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-768x512.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Faith Rodgers speaks as attorney Gloria Allred looks on during a press conference to discuss Rodgers' allegations of sexual, physical and mental abuse against singer R. Kelly. \u003ccite>(Drew Angerer/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"While R. Kelly has rocketed to fame and fortune, he has used his celebrity status to victimize countless young women who were afraid to speak out until now,\" Allred said Thursday. \"We applaud Latresa and Rochelle and the other accusers who have had the courage to come forward.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She added that both women planned to speak with the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I am speaking out because I want to encourage other victims who I know must be out there to come forward as well,\" Scaff said. \"I want justice for anyone who is a victim of R. Kelly.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27I+Want+Justice%3A%27+R.+Kelly+Accused+Of+Sexual+Misconduct+By+2+More+Women&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Rochelle Washington and Latresa Scaff said the singer made sexual advances on them when they were underage in the mid-1990s.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1550863846,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":13,"wordCount":542},"headData":{"title":"'I Want Justice:' R. 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At a news conference Thursday in New York City, Rochelle Washington and Latresa Scaff related the story of a traumatic encounter that allegedly occurred after one of Kelly's performances in the mid-1990s.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Washington and Scaff, now 39 and 40, respectively, claim that when they were 15 and 16 years old when they attended an after-party together in Baltimore in either 1995 or '96—they could not recall which. There, they say they were offered alcohol, marijuana and cocaine—though they say they didn't consume the latter—and Kelly asked them to meet him in his hotel suite later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Scaff says that Kelly had his genitals exposed when he eventually entered the room. And he allegedly propositioned both—but Washington, who says she had been recently raped in a separate incident, says she soon left the room.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"When Kelly was alone with me,\" Scaff told reporters, \"he asked me to perform oral sex on him. I was under the influence of marijuana and alcohol and did it. He then had sexual intercourse with me even though I did not have the capacity to consent.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>R. Kelly's legal team did not immediately respond to NPR's request for comment. But Kelly himself has repeatedly denied wrongdoing for years.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The new claims come amid a rising tide of allegations against the 52-year-old artist, who has been dogged for roughly a quarter-century by reports that he has abused underage girls. For nearly a decade after Kelly was cleared of child pornography charges in 2008, many of those questions quieted—only to be stirred to life again by a 2017 \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jimderogatis/parents-told-police-r-kelly-is-keeping-women-in-a-cult\">BuzzFeed investigation\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Since then, more women have come forward accusing the star of sexual misconduct and abuse, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/11/683936629/r-kelly-allegations-an-abridged-history#wife\">including Kelly's ex-wife\u003c/a>, Andrea Kelly. And the new year has brought a \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/03/681851521/lifetimes-series-about-r-kelly-depicts-a-darker-side-to-the-singer\">popular docuseries\u003c/a> from Lifetime on the allegations, a flurry of \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/10/683900713/lady-gaga-apologizes-for-r-kelly-collaboration-in-wake-of-lifetime-series\">disavowals \u003c/a>from former collaborators, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/685912752/the-muterkelly-movement-takes-its-protest-to-the-steps-of-his-record-label\">protests \u003c/a>from activist groups, and public pressure that led to his record label \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/18/686641970/r-kelly-has-been-dropped-by-rca-records-billboard-reports\">dropping him\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Gloria Allred, the attorney representing Scaff and Washington, also \u003ca href=\"http://gothamist.com/2019/01/14/r_kelly_accuser_is_meeting_with_nyp.php\">alleged last month\u003c/a> that another client of hers, Faith Rodgers, suffered retaliation for speaking out against Kelly.\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_109636\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-109636\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-800x533.jpg\" alt=\"Faith Rodgers speaks as attorney Gloria Allred looks on during a press conference to discuss Rodgers' allegations of sexual, physical and mental abuse against singer R. Kelly. \" width=\"800\" height=\"533\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-800x533.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-160x107.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-768x512.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-1020x680.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-1200x800.jpg 1200w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652-1920x1280.jpg 1920w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/02/GettyImages-1082792652.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Faith Rodgers speaks as attorney Gloria Allred looks on during a press conference to discuss Rodgers' allegations of sexual, physical and mental abuse against singer R. Kelly. \u003ccite>(Drew Angerer/Getty Images)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp>\"While R. Kelly has rocketed to fame and fortune, he has used his celebrity status to victimize countless young women who were afraid to speak out until now,\" Allred said Thursday. \"We applaud Latresa and Rochelle and the other accusers who have had the courage to come forward.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She added that both women planned to speak with the U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of New York.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\"I am speaking out because I want to encourage other victims who I know must be out there to come forward as well,\" Scaff said. \"I want justice for anyone who is a victim of R. Kelly.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 NPR. To see more, visit https://www.npr.org.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27I+Want+Justice%3A%27+R.+Kelly+Accused+Of+Sexual+Misconduct+By+2+More+Women&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/109631/i-want-justice-r-kelly-accused-of-sexual-misconduct-by-2-more-women","authors":["byline_pop_109631"],"categories":["pop_1"],"tags":["pop_3226","pop_3426","pop_3126","pop_463","pop_3475"],"featImg":"pop_109635","label":"pop"},"pop_109568":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_109568","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"109568","score":null,"sort":[1550692376000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"surviving-r-kelly-producer-dream-hampton-takes-on-ecosystem-that-supported-the-star","title":"'Surviving R. Kelly' Producer Dream Hampton Takes on Ecosystem That Supported the Star","publishDate":1550692376,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>Last week, reports surfaced of a \u003ca href=\"https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/18/entertainment/r-kelly-grand-jury-seated/index.html\">new videotape\u003c/a> showing singer \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/artists/156679430/r-kelly\">R. Kelly\u003c/a> engaging in sex acts with an underage girl. This is not the first time the R&B superstar has been accused of sexual abuse. Allegations have circled Kelly for decades; in 2002, a videotape surfaced that purportedly showed Kelly engaging in sexual acts with a teenage girl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Until recently, the accusations did not seem to significantly impact Kelly's career. Though Kelly was indicted in 2002 on \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/11/683936629/r-kelly-allegations-an-abridged-history#indictment\">21 counts of child pornography\u003c/a>, a Chicago jury later acquitted him of all charges in 2008.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But activist, filmmaker and writer dream hampton isn't about to let Kelly off the hook. hampton executive produced \u003cem>Surviving R. Kelly\u003c/em>, a six-part docuseries focusing on Kelly's alleged victims and their family members. hampton says the series, which first premiered on Lifetime on Jan. 3, is currently streaming on \u003ca href=\"https://www.mylifetime.com/\">Lifetime's website \u003c/a>and will re-air on Feb. 25, is about \"centering the women.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrJvDouqb_s\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>hampton describes an \"ecosystem\" that has supported and enabled Kelly over the years—at the expense of black women. \"There's a record industry that continued to do business with him in small and big ways,\" she says.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But hampton hopes that the tide is finally turning. She notes that the grassroots \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/685912752/the-muterkelly-movement-takes-its-protest-to-the-steps-of-his-record-label\">#muterkelly \u003c/a>movement has raised awareness in the music industry and helped limit the radio play of Kelly's songs. Since the series aired, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/18/686641970/r-kelly-has-been-dropped-by-rca-records-billboard-reports\">Sony Music dropped\u003c/a> Kelly and Spotify downgraded him. Still, hampton says, \"we've seen five million streams of his music happen directly after the docuseries aired, and we saw two of his songs re-chart.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.npr.org/player/embed/695083431/696326012\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>Interview Highlights\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On allegations against R. Kelly being well-known in his hometown of Chicago\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's really well-known in Chicago, for generations ... He would cruise McDonald's near high schools and have someone from his team go up to a girl, get her number and she didn't have to be anything. She didn't have to have long hair or short hair. [She could] be light skinned or dark skinned and have a great body or a bad one. All she had to be was young. And so, we have lots of evidence of him cruising not only McDonald's, but then also his old high school, Kenwood Academy, which was a kind of school that was renowned for its excellent music program and choir. Sometimes as a guest sometimes just as a drop-in, he would cruise girls at his high school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the videotape that allegedly showed Kelly sexually abusing a teenage girl\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I didn't watch it until I began making this docuseries. ... I avoided it because I thought it to be child porn just from the descriptions. But when I actually saw it, it had nothing to do with sex. It was all about barking commands at and humiliating and degrading this young, young girl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She appears to be prepubescent, but we later learned that she was Sparkle's niece, and there was whole trial about that case. Sparkle was an R&B singer who lived in the studio. She was being mentored by R. Kelly. He was producing and writing her album. So, he met that victim because her aunt lived in the studio, as one does when one's recording an album, and her family, who were a family of musicians, would come by. He met her, Sparkle says, as early as 12.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On criticism that the survivors didn't go to the police \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That confounds me, especially coming from black people. I really didn't know until I started reading these tweets directed at me and some of the survivors that we had some fantasy about there being some vice squad dedicated to kind of busting down doors for black girls and to save black girls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We also have testimony ... about the Chicago Police Department giving R. Kelly a heads up when one of the parents, for instance, had convinced the police to do a wellness check on their daughter. At this point, she was over 18. They couldn't really make a claim, but they begged the police to at least check on their daughter and make sure that she was okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Someone in the Chicago Police Department—likely someone who worked security on their off-duty hours—called him, and told him it was happening. And they got the studio ready and got the girls out of the studio before the police arrived.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On a pattern in the black community of protecting black men at the expense of black women \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We know that this system is unfair to black people—not just black men, but black people. We often rhetorically talk about black men being targeted and treated unfairly and abused in the criminal justice system—but it's black people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We know what this system does to us, right? So to turn to that system for justice is itself an oxymoron. But at the same time, we have a knee-jerk reaction to protect black men, always at the expense of black women. People like bell hooks and black feminists before me have written about this and talked about this and done scholarship about this, but nothing has changed about this. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So this is something that we see generation after generation, and R. Kelly has a particular kind of love, which acts as a currency in the black community. He is singularly an R&B artist. He makes black music for black people ... and he has used that love as a cover.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On R. Kelly being sexually abused himself as a child \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What R. Kelly was as a child was raped and molested. He uses the word \"molested.\" ... So he has some kind of understanding. ... [People on his team] knew that he was abused. Many of them there were Chicago-based people who knew that family members had been abusing him as a child. That's deep trauma that needs real healing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I'm not saying that at 52, which is the age R. Kelly is right now, when he has two very young women living with him, whose parents are looking for them, that there's some magical age when you are supposed to have a healing, because many people don't heal their entire lifetimes. I have childhood trauma that I'm still trying to heal and I'm five years younger than R. Kelly. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's cliché to say, but almost all abusers have been abused, but not all people who have been abused become abusers. So there comes a time when R. Kelly is absolutely responsible for the harm that he's caused.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On why she wants to do this work \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I started writing about hip-hop as a 19-year-old film student in New York, I was calling out the misogyny and the violence against women. And I'm sad to say I don't feel that there's been too much progress made.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I come from all-black Detroit city and I live and breathe in black spaces. And I want them to be safe not just for my daughter and me, but [also for] black women who don't want that safety for themselves, who've internalized the misogyny and don't \u003cem>think\u003c/em> that they deserve the safety and justice that they deserve.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Heidi Saman and Thea Chaloner produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Sidney Madden adapted it for the Web. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 Fresh Air. To see more, visit \u003ca href=\"http://www.npr.org/programs/fresh-air/\">Fresh Air\u003c/a>.\u003cimg src=\"https://www.google-analytics.com/__utm.gif?utmac=UA-5828686-4&utmdt=%27Surviving+R.+Kelly%27+Producer+Dream+Hampton+Takes+On+Ecosystem+That+Supported+The+Star&utme=8(APIKey)9(MDAxOTAwOTE4MDEyMTkxMDAzNjczZDljZA004)\">\u003c/em>\u003c/div>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The activist, filmmaker and writer talks all things R. Kelly, in the wake of new allegations against the singer.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1550692640,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":29,"wordCount":1282},"headData":{"title":"'Surviving R. Kelly' Producer Dream Hampton Takes on Ecosystem That Supported the Star | KQED","description":"The activist, filmmaker and writer talks all things R. 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Kelly\u003c/a> engaging in sex acts with an underage girl. This is not the first time the R&B superstar has been accused of sexual abuse. Allegations have circled Kelly for decades; in 2002, a videotape surfaced that purportedly showed Kelly engaging in sexual acts with a teenage girl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Until recently, the accusations did not seem to significantly impact Kelly's career. Though Kelly was indicted in 2002 on \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/11/683936629/r-kelly-allegations-an-abridged-history#indictment\">21 counts of child pornography\u003c/a>, a Chicago jury later acquitted him of all charges in 2008.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But activist, filmmaker and writer dream hampton isn't about to let Kelly off the hook. hampton executive produced \u003cem>Surviving R. 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She notes that the grassroots \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/685912752/the-muterkelly-movement-takes-its-protest-to-the-steps-of-his-record-label\">#muterkelly \u003c/a>movement has raised awareness in the music industry and helped limit the radio play of Kelly's songs. Since the series aired, \u003ca href=\"https://www.npr.org/2019/01/18/686641970/r-kelly-has-been-dropped-by-rca-records-billboard-reports\">Sony Music dropped\u003c/a> Kelly and Spotify downgraded him. Still, hampton says, \"we've seen five million streams of his music happen directly after the docuseries aired, and we saw two of his songs re-chart.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c!-- iframe plugin v.4.3 wordpress.org/plugins/iframe/ -->\u003cbr>\n\u003ciframe src=\"https://www.npr.org/player/embed/695083431/696326012\" width=\"100%\" height=\"290\" frameborder=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\" class=\"iframe-class\">\u003c/iframe>\u003c/p>\n\u003chr>\n\u003ch3>Interview Highlights\u003c/h3>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On allegations against R. Kelly being well-known in his hometown of Chicago\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's really well-known in Chicago, for generations ... He would cruise McDonald's near high schools and have someone from his team go up to a girl, get her number and she didn't have to be anything. She didn't have to have long hair or short hair. [She could] be light skinned or dark skinned and have a great body or a bad one. All she had to be was young. And so, we have lots of evidence of him cruising not only McDonald's, but then also his old high school, Kenwood Academy, which was a kind of school that was renowned for its excellent music program and choir. Sometimes as a guest sometimes just as a drop-in, he would cruise girls at his high school.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On the videotape that allegedly showed Kelly sexually abusing a teenage girl\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I didn't watch it until I began making this docuseries. ... I avoided it because I thought it to be child porn just from the descriptions. But when I actually saw it, it had nothing to do with sex. It was all about barking commands at and humiliating and degrading this young, young girl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>She appears to be prepubescent, but we later learned that she was Sparkle's niece, and there was whole trial about that case. Sparkle was an R&B singer who lived in the studio. She was being mentored by R. Kelly. He was producing and writing her album. So, he met that victim because her aunt lived in the studio, as one does when one's recording an album, and her family, who were a family of musicians, would come by. He met her, Sparkle says, as early as 12.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On criticism that the survivors didn't go to the police \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>That confounds me, especially coming from black people. I really didn't know until I started reading these tweets directed at me and some of the survivors that we had some fantasy about there being some vice squad dedicated to kind of busting down doors for black girls and to save black girls.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We also have testimony ... about the Chicago Police Department giving R. Kelly a heads up when one of the parents, for instance, had convinced the police to do a wellness check on their daughter. At this point, she was over 18. They couldn't really make a claim, but they begged the police to at least check on their daughter and make sure that she was okay.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Someone in the Chicago Police Department—likely someone who worked security on their off-duty hours—called him, and told him it was happening. And they got the studio ready and got the girls out of the studio before the police arrived.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On a pattern in the black community of protecting black men at the expense of black women \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We know that this system is unfair to black people—not just black men, but black people. We often rhetorically talk about black men being targeted and treated unfairly and abused in the criminal justice system—but it's black people.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>We know what this system does to us, right? So to turn to that system for justice is itself an oxymoron. But at the same time, we have a knee-jerk reaction to protect black men, always at the expense of black women. People like bell hooks and black feminists before me have written about this and talked about this and done scholarship about this, but nothing has changed about this. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>So this is something that we see generation after generation, and R. Kelly has a particular kind of love, which acts as a currency in the black community. He is singularly an R&B artist. He makes black music for black people ... and he has used that love as a cover.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On R. Kelly being sexually abused himself as a child \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>What R. Kelly was as a child was raped and molested. He uses the word \"molested.\" ... So he has some kind of understanding. ... [People on his team] knew that he was abused. Many of them there were Chicago-based people who knew that family members had been abusing him as a child. That's deep trauma that needs real healing.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I'm not saying that at 52, which is the age R. Kelly is right now, when he has two very young women living with him, whose parents are looking for them, that there's some magical age when you are supposed to have a healing, because many people don't heal their entire lifetimes. I have childhood trauma that I'm still trying to heal and I'm five years younger than R. Kelly. ...\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>It's cliché to say, but almost all abusers have been abused, but not all people who have been abused become abusers. So there comes a time when R. Kelly is absolutely responsible for the harm that he's caused.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>On why she wants to do this work \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>When I started writing about hip-hop as a 19-year-old film student in New York, I was calling out the misogyny and the violence against women. And I'm sad to say I don't feel that there's been too much progress made.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>I come from all-black Detroit city and I live and breathe in black spaces. And I want them to be safe not just for my daughter and me, but [also for] black women who don't want that safety for themselves, who've internalized the misogyny and don't \u003cem>think\u003c/em> that they deserve the safety and justice that they deserve.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Heidi Saman and Thea Chaloner produced and edited this interview for broadcast. Bridget Bentz, Molly Seavy-Nesper and Sidney Madden adapted it for the Web. \u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"fullattribution\">\u003cem>Copyright 2019 Fresh Air. 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Kelly’ Did","publishDate":1548709338,"format":"standard","headTitle":"Why the New Michael Jackson Documentary Won’t Have the Impact ‘Surviving R. Kelly’ Did | KQED","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>If anyone ever needed a reminder of the awesome power of documentaries, \u003cem>Surviving R. Kelly\u003c/em> provided a particularly impactful one. Since the docuseries aired, Kelly has been \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/18/arts/music/r-kelly-rca-sony.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR36M8K7oo1nozw-gfuI7s5cfThQVjSgfWng_CeHaIm82a11_RhtBKY1z5Q\">dropped\u003c/a> by RCA, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/108417/lady-gaga-needs-to-talk-about-r-kelly\">denounced\u003c/a> by former collaborators, become the focus of one investigation in Georgia, another into his studio in Chicago, seen his ex-manager served with an arrest warrant, and had his music banned by at least two radio stations. After years of dodged bullets, \u003cem>Surviving R. Kelly\u003c/em> brought about a major shift in how the world views the R&B star.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid=arts_13938155]A new documentary about Michael Jackson, titled \u003ca href=\"https://www.sundance.org/projects/leaving-neverland\">\u003cem>Leaving Neverland\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, is hoping to prompt a similar change, by exploring the stories of two men who say Jackson sexually abused them. “Through gut-wrenching interviews with the now-adult men and their families,” the film’s press release states, “\u003cem>Leaving Neverland\u003c/em> crafts a portrait of sustained exploitation and deception, documenting the power of celebrity that allowed a revered figure to infiltrate the lives of starstruck children and their parents.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The two-part, four-hour film by director \u003ca href=\"https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0715371/\">Dan Reed\u003c/a>, premiered at Sundance over the weekend and will air on HBO in the spring. Weeks ago, news that it even existed was greeted with strong condemnation by Jackson’s estate, which said: “This is yet another lurid production in an outrageous and pathetic attempt to exploit and cash in on Michael Jackson.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson’s nephew Taj spoke out on Twitter:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/tajjackson3/status/1083465977587654657?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1083465977587654657&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fmadamenoire.com%2F1055879%2Ffinding-neverland%2F\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson supporters were also quick to respond. “I’m absolutely sick of it,” says British fan, Charlotte Childs. “The man was found innocent! I didn’t blindly accept that; I did my research and read the court transcripts. There’s a lot of stuff going on in the fan community right now—petitions and rebuttal videos are in the works.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A couple of them surfaced before the film did. One accused \u003cem>Leaving Neverland\u003c/em> \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuba-G87YMo\">of defamation\u003c/a>. Another—\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6kHPJhA1kk\">a movie trailer parody\u003c/a>—called Jackson’s prior accusers “blatant liars.” Pressure was so great on Sundance that, weeks in advance, the festival was forced to release a statement to confirm it \u003ca href=\"https://www.indiewire.com/2019/01/sundance-michael-jackson-child-abuse-doc-leaving-neverland-fan-protests-1202035204/\">would not be removing\u003c/a> the documentary from its lineup. It also provided an increased police presence at the first screening, in anticipation of protesters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid=pop_109856]Jackson fans have a history of leaping to his defense fiercely and fast. And there are a lot of them. You’d be hard pressed to find a musician whose work is as universally loved as Michael Jackson’s. His impact was so enormous, it’s fairly difficult to find anyone between the ages of 25 and 75 who doesn’t, in some way, have an emotional connection to his music. In the end, if the rumors about him are proven true—and some viewers at \u003cem>Leaving Neverland\u003c/em>‘s premiere were \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/AmyKinLA/status/1088949957195776000\">definitely leaning in that direction\u003c/a>—it will be a pop culture loss the likes of which we’ve never seen before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson cuts a more sympathetic figure than most famous men who’ve come under the #MeToo microscope, in part because he is no longer alive, and because, when he was, he was frequently viewed as a vulnerable victim of both press and circumstance. Two musicians I interviewed about \u003cem>Leaving Neverland\u003c/em> before its release both separately used the phrase “easy target” in relation to Jackson and the accusations made against him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And while Jackson and R. Kelly both suffered difficult, abusive childhoods, in adulthood, Jackson made sure we never stopped thinking about his. He cultivated an image of a man-child; isolated, sensitive and given neither the opportunity to reach adulthood on his own terms nor a chance to grow into a truly independent, free person.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The publication of his 1988 autobiography, \u003cem>Moon Walk\u003c/em>, established an ever-present pain in Jackson’s persona and subsequently left behind a residue of public guilt. If he hadn’t spent his childhood over-worked and on tour, the story went, he wouldn’t need an amusement park and a zoo at his house as an adult. The implication is that the fault of his eccentric behavior and habits lies, at least partially, with a public who adored him too much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid=pop_16314]Some of the elements of Jackson’s persona were specifically designed to elicit this response in fans. In a recent \u003ca href=\"https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2009/09/michael-jackson200909\">\u003cem>Vanity Fair\u003c/em> story\u003c/a>, journalist and longtime friend Lisa Robinson talks of Jackson’s “two voices he could produce at will.” One was the gentle squeak he used for public appearances, the other was, in Robinson’s words “lower,” “more ‘normal’,” and reserved for private conversations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Interestingly, Robinson’s story reflects exactly how the public most likes to think about Jackson. It focuses on a catalogue of interviews that she conducted with him between 1972 and 1989 (four years before the first child molestation trial). What happened in Jackson’s life after those interviews is summed up in a single paragraph:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“Before the onstage crotch grabbing, before the disfiguring plastic surgeries, before the peculiar disguises, before the suspect marriages, before the mysteriously conceived children, before the rumored drug addictions and insomnia, and even before…the hospital stays, the alleged family estrangements, the profligate spending, the grotesque tchotchke hoarding, the over-the-top fantasyland ranch…and certainly way before the child-molestation accusations and trial, Michael Jackson was one of the most talented, adorable, enthusiastic, sweet, ebullient performers I’d ever interviewed.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>That’s the Michael Jackson the world most fondly, and often, remembers. Because for almost 20 years, he was simply one of the greatest talents the world had ever seen. When your great first impression lasts two decades, people are able to hold onto it, regardless of what comes later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The result of that is that Michael Jackson has never really fallen out of favor. Just this month, fashion giant \u003ca href=\"https://www.vogue.com/article/louis-vuitton-mens-fall-2019-paris-virgil-abloh-michael-jackson\">Louis Vuitton honored Jackson\u003c/a> in a special runway show that attendees were invited to via bedazzled, single white gloves. One of January’s most popular viral videos was that of UCLA gymnast, Katelyn Ohashi, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/108600/katelyn-ohashis-gymnastics-routine-is-the-energy-we-need-in-2019\">performing an exhilarating routine\u003c/a> soundtracked by Michael Jackson and his siblings. \u003ca href=\"https://thrillerlive.com/\">\u003cem>Thriller Live, \u003c/em>\u003c/a>an MJ musical, is now enjoying its “record-breaking” tenth year in the heart of London’s theater district.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is all despite the horrifying allegations that were made during the 2005 trial—sleepovers with children, Jackson giving them wine (apparently nicknamed \u003ca href=\"https://www.eonline.com/news/44546/michael-jackson-s-jesus-juice\">“Jesus Juice”\u003c/a> and “Jesus Blood”), “triple-locked \u003ca href=\"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/22/michael-jackson-stashed-pictures-of-animal-torture-and-nude-chil/\">secret closets”\u003c/a> and, most shocking of all, “\u003ca href=\"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3653380/Michael-Jackson-s-secret-underage-sex-closet-Inside-raid-uncovered-King-Pop-s-extensive-collection-photos-featuring-naked-teenage-boys.html\">an extensive collection of photos featuring naked teenage boys\u003c/a>.” The crowds outside the courthouse were \u003ca href=\"https://vimeo.com/273631968?fbclid=IwAR2W1SoYQdlrazEOX0r5YDPtkYF-940-ToTDyDmQFFi_gDYNf742EmtgQpc\">unwavering in their dedication\u003c/a> to Jackson at the time, and many of them remain so today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I look at it this way,” Las Vegas fan, Chris King says. “Corey Feldman has been a pedophile exposer now for years. No mention of Michael. Macaulay Culkin has been out of the spotlight for 15 years and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BstTcWRgZt_/?fbclid=IwAR1saxhJaiIvPXwAfTDKo_m7eTNW9mcsvLkLTPDEQwys9R54QC2DZDKtFNY\">not a peep from him\u003c/a> either. Going back to childhood, I never believed it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[aside postid=arts_13901400]Another lifelong fan, who asked to remain anonymous, acknowledged that she doesn’t hold Jackson accountable in the same way she does other musicians. “I flip out that Drake is texting a 13-year-old girl, and I think R. Kelly is a monster, but I know I’ve also victim-shamed the kids that accused Michael. Which is crazy. When the first trial happened, I saw it as an attack on my idol. It happened at a time when public information was a lot more limited, so I essentially went on my gut and the verdict. It’s much easier to go with the things that back up my faith in him, and believe this was about those kids needing money than it is to accept what I don’t want to hear.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad floatright]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just how many people will avoid \u003cem>Leaving Neverland\u003c/em> for those same reasons is impossible to predict. But the response it received before the emergence of so much as a trailer, speaks volumes about our nation’s relationship with both Michael Jackson, and, more generally, America’s musical heroes. It’s clear that, regardless of what comes out in the film, there are a great many people who will keep Michael Jackson firmly on his pedestal, whether he deserves it or not.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"We talked to a few Michael Jackson fans, who've remained faithful to the star, despite all the rumors.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1702326095,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":21,"wordCount":1494},"headData":{"title":"Why the New Michael Jackson Documentary Won’t Have the Impact ‘Surviving R. 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Since the docuseries aired, Kelly has been \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/18/arts/music/r-kelly-rca-sony.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR36M8K7oo1nozw-gfuI7s5cfThQVjSgfWng_CeHaIm82a11_RhtBKY1z5Q\">dropped\u003c/a> by RCA, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/108417/lady-gaga-needs-to-talk-about-r-kelly\">denounced\u003c/a> by former collaborators, become the focus of one investigation in Georgia, another into his studio in Chicago, seen his ex-manager served with an arrest warrant, and had his music banned by at least two radio stations. After years of dodged bullets, \u003cem>Surviving R. 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Weeks ago, news that it even existed was greeted with strong condemnation by Jackson’s estate, which said: “This is yet another lurid production in an outrageous and pathetic attempt to exploit and cash in on Michael Jackson.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson’s nephew Taj spoke out on Twitter:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1083465977587654657"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson supporters were also quick to respond. “I’m absolutely sick of it,” says British fan, Charlotte Childs. “The man was found innocent! I didn’t blindly accept that; I did my research and read the court transcripts. There’s a lot of stuff going on in the fan community right now—petitions and rebuttal videos are in the works.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>A couple of them surfaced before the film did. One accused \u003cem>Leaving Neverland\u003c/em> \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuba-G87YMo\">of defamation\u003c/a>. Another—\u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6kHPJhA1kk\">a movie trailer parody\u003c/a>—called Jackson’s prior accusers “blatant liars.” Pressure was so great on Sundance that, weeks in advance, the festival was forced to release a statement to confirm it \u003ca href=\"https://www.indiewire.com/2019/01/sundance-michael-jackson-child-abuse-doc-leaving-neverland-fan-protests-1202035204/\">would not be removing\u003c/a> the documentary from its lineup. It also provided an increased police presence at the first screening, in anticipation of protesters.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"pop_109856","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Jackson fans have a history of leaping to his defense fiercely and fast. And there are a lot of them. You’d be hard pressed to find a musician whose work is as universally loved as Michael Jackson’s. His impact was so enormous, it’s fairly difficult to find anyone between the ages of 25 and 75 who doesn’t, in some way, have an emotional connection to his music. In the end, if the rumors about him are proven true—and some viewers at \u003cem>Leaving Neverland\u003c/em>‘s premiere were \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/AmyKinLA/status/1088949957195776000\">definitely leaning in that direction\u003c/a>—it will be a pop culture loss the likes of which we’ve never seen before.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Jackson cuts a more sympathetic figure than most famous men who’ve come under the #MeToo microscope, in part because he is no longer alive, and because, when he was, he was frequently viewed as a vulnerable victim of both press and circumstance. Two musicians I interviewed about \u003cem>Leaving Neverland\u003c/em> before its release both separately used the phrase “easy target” in relation to Jackson and the accusations made against him.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>And while Jackson and R. Kelly both suffered difficult, abusive childhoods, in adulthood, Jackson made sure we never stopped thinking about his. He cultivated an image of a man-child; isolated, sensitive and given neither the opportunity to reach adulthood on his own terms nor a chance to grow into a truly independent, free person.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The publication of his 1988 autobiography, \u003cem>Moon Walk\u003c/em>, established an ever-present pain in Jackson’s persona and subsequently left behind a residue of public guilt. If he hadn’t spent his childhood over-worked and on tour, the story went, he wouldn’t need an amusement park and a zoo at his house as an adult. The implication is that the fault of his eccentric behavior and habits lies, at least partially, with a public who adored him too much.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"pop_16314","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Some of the elements of Jackson’s persona were specifically designed to elicit this response in fans. In a recent \u003ca href=\"https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2009/09/michael-jackson200909\">\u003cem>Vanity Fair\u003c/em> story\u003c/a>, journalist and longtime friend Lisa Robinson talks of Jackson’s “two voices he could produce at will.” One was the gentle squeak he used for public appearances, the other was, in Robinson’s words “lower,” “more ‘normal’,” and reserved for private conversations.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Interestingly, Robinson’s story reflects exactly how the public most likes to think about Jackson. It focuses on a catalogue of interviews that she conducted with him between 1972 and 1989 (four years before the first child molestation trial). What happened in Jackson’s life after those interviews is summed up in a single paragraph:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>“Before the onstage crotch grabbing, before the disfiguring plastic surgeries, before the peculiar disguises, before the suspect marriages, before the mysteriously conceived children, before the rumored drug addictions and insomnia, and even before…the hospital stays, the alleged family estrangements, the profligate spending, the grotesque tchotchke hoarding, the over-the-top fantasyland ranch…and certainly way before the child-molestation accusations and trial, Michael Jackson was one of the most talented, adorable, enthusiastic, sweet, ebullient performers I’d ever interviewed.”\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>That’s the Michael Jackson the world most fondly, and often, remembers. Because for almost 20 years, he was simply one of the greatest talents the world had ever seen. When your great first impression lasts two decades, people are able to hold onto it, regardless of what comes later.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The result of that is that Michael Jackson has never really fallen out of favor. Just this month, fashion giant \u003ca href=\"https://www.vogue.com/article/louis-vuitton-mens-fall-2019-paris-virgil-abloh-michael-jackson\">Louis Vuitton honored Jackson\u003c/a> in a special runway show that attendees were invited to via bedazzled, single white gloves. One of January’s most popular viral videos was that of UCLA gymnast, Katelyn Ohashi, \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/108600/katelyn-ohashis-gymnastics-routine-is-the-energy-we-need-in-2019\">performing an exhilarating routine\u003c/a> soundtracked by Michael Jackson and his siblings. \u003ca href=\"https://thrillerlive.com/\">\u003cem>Thriller Live, \u003c/em>\u003c/a>an MJ musical, is now enjoying its “record-breaking” tenth year in the heart of London’s theater district.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This is all despite the horrifying allegations that were made during the 2005 trial—sleepovers with children, Jackson giving them wine (apparently nicknamed \u003ca href=\"https://www.eonline.com/news/44546/michael-jackson-s-jesus-juice\">“Jesus Juice”\u003c/a> and “Jesus Blood”), “triple-locked \u003ca href=\"https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/22/michael-jackson-stashed-pictures-of-animal-torture-and-nude-chil/\">secret closets”\u003c/a> and, most shocking of all, “\u003ca href=\"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3653380/Michael-Jackson-s-secret-underage-sex-closet-Inside-raid-uncovered-King-Pop-s-extensive-collection-photos-featuring-naked-teenage-boys.html\">an extensive collection of photos featuring naked teenage boys\u003c/a>.” The crowds outside the courthouse were \u003ca href=\"https://vimeo.com/273631968?fbclid=IwAR2W1SoYQdlrazEOX0r5YDPtkYF-940-ToTDyDmQFFi_gDYNf742EmtgQpc\">unwavering in their dedication\u003c/a> to Jackson at the time, and many of them remain so today.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>“I look at it this way,” Las Vegas fan, Chris King says. “Corey Feldman has been a pedophile exposer now for years. No mention of Michael. Macaulay Culkin has been out of the spotlight for 15 years and \u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BstTcWRgZt_/?fbclid=IwAR1saxhJaiIvPXwAfTDKo_m7eTNW9mcsvLkLTPDEQwys9R54QC2DZDKtFNY\">not a peep from him\u003c/a> either. Going back to childhood, I never believed it.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"aside","attributes":{"named":{"postid":"arts_13901400","label":""},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>Another lifelong fan, who asked to remain anonymous, acknowledged that she doesn’t hold Jackson accountable in the same way she does other musicians. “I flip out that Drake is texting a 13-year-old girl, and I think R. Kelly is a monster, but I know I’ve also victim-shamed the kids that accused Michael. Which is crazy. When the first trial happened, I saw it as an attack on my idol. It happened at a time when public information was a lot more limited, so I essentially went on my gut and the verdict. It’s much easier to go with the things that back up my faith in him, and believe this was about those kids needing money than it is to accept what I don’t want to hear.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"floatright"},"numeric":["floatright"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Just how many people will avoid \u003cem>Leaving Neverland\u003c/em> for those same reasons is impossible to predict. But the response it received before the emergence of so much as a trailer, speaks volumes about our nation’s relationship with both Michael Jackson, and, more generally, America’s musical heroes. It’s clear that, regardless of what comes out in the film, there are a great many people who will keep Michael Jackson firmly on his pedestal, whether he deserves it or not.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/108623/why-the-new-michael-jackson-documentary-wont-have-the-impact-surviving-r-kelly-did","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_51","pop_4","pop_3"],"tags":["pop_3426","pop_3341","pop_1301","pop_463"],"featImg":"pop_108626","label":"pop"},"pop_108417":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_108417","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"108417","score":null,"sort":[1546903567000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"lady-gaga-needs-to-talk-about-r-kelly","title":"Lady Gaga Needs to Talk About R. Kelly","publishDate":1546903567,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update (January 9, 2018, 10:27 pm PT): \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Lady Gaga has released \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/1083237788663697408\">a statement\u003c/a> addressing her work with R. Kelly:\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_108522\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-108522\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-800x1246.jpg\" alt='Gaga accompanied this image with the words: \"I stand by anyone who has ever been the victim of sexual assault.\" ' width=\"800\" height=\"1246\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-800x1246.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-160x249.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-768x1196.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-1020x1588.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-771x1200.jpg 771w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-1180x1837.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-960x1495.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-240x374.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-375x584.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-520x810.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl.jpg 1242w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gaga accompanied this image with the words: \"I stand by anyone who has ever been the victim of sexual assault.\" \u003ccite>(@ladygaga)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">******\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>R. Kelly has persistently been accused of disturbing treatment of women, particularly underage girls, ever since he illegally married 15-year-old Aaliyah in 1997. His career has survived child pornography trials, rumors of a sex cult and even the organized effort by frustrated bystanders to \u003ca href=\"https://www.muterkelly.org/\">#MuteRKelly\u003c/a>. Kelly hasn't just dodged every bullet fired in his direction, he has reveled in the attention, even shrugging his shoulders in song form with his \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/104682/r-kellys-i-admit-has-all-the-hallmarks-of-abuser-logic\">shocking single, \"I Admit,\"\u003c/a> last September.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the weekend though, Lifetime docu-series, \u003ca href=\"https://www.mylifetime.com/shows/surviving-r-kelly\">\u003cem>Surviving R. Kelly\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, somehow had a greater impact than anything that has come before. In the six-hour documentary, credible abuse survivors told stories that were harrowing to listen to and obviously extremely difficult for them to relive. There can be no doubt, after \u003cem>Surviving R. Kelly\u003c/em>, who this man is and what he continues to get away with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q0nOYtZsGU\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Unfortunately for the survivors in question, almost all of the household names approached to participate in the series refused interviews. Executive producer dream hampton has revealed that those who refused participation include Jay-Z, Mary J. Blige, Erykah Badu, L'il Kim, Dave Chapelle and Lady Gaga. Though she has gone some way towards excusing the absent celebs, saying: “It’s not because they support him, it’s because it’s so messy and muddy,” she has also said she \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6566129/Lady-Gaga-called-Surviving-R-Kelly-producer-silence-DEFENDING-singer.html\">wanted to know how Lady Gaga could be on \u003cem>SNL\u003c/em>\u003c/a> with [Kelly] as someone who advocates for domestic abuse survivors.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even back in 2013, Gaga's collaboration with R. Kelly caught a lot of people off guard. Given the already well-established rumors about him, the lyrics of \"Do What U Want\" weren't just inappropriate, they were deeply insensitive. The fact that Gaga, an outspoken advocate of women's rights, so enthusiastically embraced and supported Kelly, only compounded the confusion. At the time, \u003ca href=\"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6562945/R-Kelly-untrue-things-written-Lady-Gaga-defended-singer-interview.html\">she told confused journalists\u003c/a>: \"R. Kelly and I have sometimes very untrue things written about us, so in a way, this was a bond between us.\" The video, directed by another \u003ca href=\"https://www.marieclaire.com.au/terry-richardson-every-sexual-harassment-and-assault-allegation\">alleged predator, Terry Richardson, \u003c/a>was \u003ca href=\"https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6128498/lady-gaga-do-what-u-want-video-r-kelly-terry-richardson\">scrapped in the midst of the controversy\u003c/a>, and Gaga did a hasty re-recording of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMBZhTqjEcw\">track with Christina Aguilera\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though little has been made of that situation in the time since, it was Lady Gaga who received much of the \u003cem>Surviving R. Kelly\u003c/em> backlash on social media over the weekend:\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/Tzynya/status/1081011864430092288\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/adlfz/status/1081422509696864256\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/MoreAndAgain/status/1081050379381559296\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/MrErnestOwens/status/1082027380145831936\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/fauxdeity/status/1081246766949900291\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>There are too many musicians and industry people culpable in R. Kelly's ongoing career to name. (Let's not forget that Spotify amended its decision to remove R. Kelly from its platform last year after \u003ca href=\"https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/kendrick-lamar-gets-dragged-in-surviving-r-kelly-discussion-news.68534.html\">pressure from Kendrick Lamar\u003c/a>. Or that Damon Dash and Jay-Z's friendship ended after Dash told Jay about \u003ca href=\"https://www.vibe.com/2019/01/dame-dash-speaks-on-r-kelly-jay-z\">Kelly's abuse of Aaliyah\u003c/a>, and Jay moved forward with 2002's \u003cem>Best of Both Worlds\u003c/em> collaboration anyway.) And it's true that women almost always end up doing the heavy lifting when it comes to issues around sexual abuse, while men get to stay in the shadows. But the truth is, no one else in this picture is in quite the same position as Gaga.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her current silence isn't just a PR nightmare for her, it's becoming a dividing line and a focal point, an egregious example of how white women, even ones actively involved in social justice causes, can discard the experiences of women of color. Where Erykah Badu can take to Instagram and plead the fifth on the subject (\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BsR-mAAnsTc/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_medium=loading\">\"A wise woman once said...nothing\"\u003c/a> she just posted, under pressure from fans), Gaga's silence carries more weight, not just because of her higher profile, but also because of her inherent privilege.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The longer Gaga stays uncharacteristically silent about the plight of these women at the hands of one of her collaborators, the larger the gulf feels between white feminists and feminists of color, all of which creates even more division at precisely the time when intersectionality should be taking center stage. A united front is needed now if justice is to ever be done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of the musicians who refused to appear in \u003cem>Surviving R. Kelly\u003c/em> might pay some sort of price for not doing so, but Gaga has both the most to lose by staying silent and the most power to wield by speaking up. If she publicly turns her back on Kelly now, it might actually bring some comfort to those survivors who've been discarded as collateral damage, repeatedly, for years, by a music industry that cares more about sales than women's personal safety. Gaga, of all people, should already know that.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Gaga's silence about her one-time collaborator is confusing, frustrating and divisive.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1547145437,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":13,"wordCount":861},"headData":{"title":"Lady Gaga Needs to Talk About R. Kelly | KQED","description":"Gaga's silence about her one-time collaborator is confusing, frustrating and divisive.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"108417 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=108417","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2019/01/07/lady-gaga-needs-to-talk-about-r-kelly/","disqusTitle":"Lady Gaga Needs to Talk About R. Kelly","path":"/pop/108417/lady-gaga-needs-to-talk-about-r-kelly","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>\u003cstrong>Update (January 9, 2018, 10:27 pm PT): \u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Lady Gaga has released \u003ca href=\"https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/1083237788663697408\">a statement\u003c/a> addressing her work with R. Kelly:\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\u003cfigure id=\"attachment_108522\" class=\"wp-caption alignnone\" style=\"max-width: 800px\">\u003cimg class=\"size-medium wp-image-108522\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-800x1246.jpg\" alt='Gaga accompanied this image with the words: \"I stand by anyone who has ever been the victim of sexual assault.\" ' width=\"800\" height=\"1246\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-800x1246.jpg 800w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-160x249.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-768x1196.jpg 768w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-1020x1588.jpg 1020w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-771x1200.jpg 771w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-1180x1837.jpg 1180w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-960x1495.jpg 960w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-240x374.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-375x584.jpg 375w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl-520x810.jpg 520w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2019/01/DwhvBCvVYAA-SAl.jpg 1242w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\">\u003cfigcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gaga accompanied this image with the words: \"I stand by anyone who has ever been the victim of sexual assault.\" \u003ccite>(@ladygaga)\u003c/cite>\u003c/figcaption>\u003c/figure>\n\u003cp style=\"text-align: center\">******\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>R. Kelly has persistently been accused of disturbing treatment of women, particularly underage girls, ever since he illegally married 15-year-old Aaliyah in 1997. His career has survived child pornography trials, rumors of a sex cult and even the organized effort by frustrated bystanders to \u003ca href=\"https://www.muterkelly.org/\">#MuteRKelly\u003c/a>. Kelly hasn't just dodged every bullet fired in his direction, he has reveled in the attention, even shrugging his shoulders in song form with his \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/104682/r-kellys-i-admit-has-all-the-hallmarks-of-abuser-logic\">shocking single, \"I Admit,\"\u003c/a> last September.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Over the weekend though, Lifetime docu-series, \u003ca href=\"https://www.mylifetime.com/shows/surviving-r-kelly\">\u003cem>Surviving R. Kelly\u003c/em>\u003c/a>, somehow had a greater impact than anything that has come before. In the six-hour documentary, credible abuse survivors told stories that were harrowing to listen to and obviously extremely difficult for them to relive. There can be no doubt, after \u003cem>Surviving R. Kelly\u003c/em>, who this man is and what he continues to get away with.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/4q0nOYtZsGU'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/4q0nOYtZsGU'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Unfortunately for the survivors in question, almost all of the household names approached to participate in the series refused interviews. Executive producer dream hampton has revealed that those who refused participation include Jay-Z, Mary J. Blige, Erykah Badu, L'il Kim, Dave Chapelle and Lady Gaga. Though she has gone some way towards excusing the absent celebs, saying: “It’s not because they support him, it’s because it’s so messy and muddy,” she has also said she \"\u003ca href=\"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6566129/Lady-Gaga-called-Surviving-R-Kelly-producer-silence-DEFENDING-singer.html\">wanted to know how Lady Gaga could be on \u003cem>SNL\u003c/em>\u003c/a> with [Kelly] as someone who advocates for domestic abuse survivors.\"\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Even back in 2013, Gaga's collaboration with R. Kelly caught a lot of people off guard. Given the already well-established rumors about him, the lyrics of \"Do What U Want\" weren't just inappropriate, they were deeply insensitive. The fact that Gaga, an outspoken advocate of women's rights, so enthusiastically embraced and supported Kelly, only compounded the confusion. At the time, \u003ca href=\"https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6562945/R-Kelly-untrue-things-written-Lady-Gaga-defended-singer-interview.html\">she told confused journalists\u003c/a>: \"R. Kelly and I have sometimes very untrue things written about us, so in a way, this was a bond between us.\" The video, directed by another \u003ca href=\"https://www.marieclaire.com.au/terry-richardson-every-sexual-harassment-and-assault-allegation\">alleged predator, Terry Richardson, \u003c/a>was \u003ca href=\"https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop-shop/6128498/lady-gaga-do-what-u-want-video-r-kelly-terry-richardson\">scrapped in the midst of the controversy\u003c/a>, and Gaga did a hasty re-recording of the \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMBZhTqjEcw\">track with Christina Aguilera\u003c/a>.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Though little has been made of that situation in the time since, it was Lady Gaga who received much of the \u003cem>Surviving R. Kelly\u003c/em> backlash on social media over the weekend:\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1081011864430092288"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1081422509696864256"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1081050379381559296"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1082027380145831936"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1081246766949900291"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>There are too many musicians and industry people culpable in R. Kelly's ongoing career to name. (Let's not forget that Spotify amended its decision to remove R. Kelly from its platform last year after \u003ca href=\"https://www.hotnewhiphop.com/kendrick-lamar-gets-dragged-in-surviving-r-kelly-discussion-news.68534.html\">pressure from Kendrick Lamar\u003c/a>. Or that Damon Dash and Jay-Z's friendship ended after Dash told Jay about \u003ca href=\"https://www.vibe.com/2019/01/dame-dash-speaks-on-r-kelly-jay-z\">Kelly's abuse of Aaliyah\u003c/a>, and Jay moved forward with 2002's \u003cem>Best of Both Worlds\u003c/em> collaboration anyway.) And it's true that women almost always end up doing the heavy lifting when it comes to issues around sexual abuse, while men get to stay in the shadows. But the truth is, no one else in this picture is in quite the same position as Gaga.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Her current silence isn't just a PR nightmare for her, it's becoming a dividing line and a focal point, an egregious example of how white women, even ones actively involved in social justice causes, can discard the experiences of women of color. Where Erykah Badu can take to Instagram and plead the fifth on the subject (\u003ca href=\"https://www.instagram.com/p/BsR-mAAnsTc/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_medium=loading\">\"A wise woman once said...nothing\"\u003c/a> she just posted, under pressure from fans), Gaga's silence carries more weight, not just because of her higher profile, but also because of her inherent privilege.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The longer Gaga stays uncharacteristically silent about the plight of these women at the hands of one of her collaborators, the larger the gulf feels between white feminists and feminists of color, all of which creates even more division at precisely the time when intersectionality should be taking center stage. A united front is needed now if justice is to ever be done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>All of the musicians who refused to appear in \u003cem>Surviving R. Kelly\u003c/em> might pay some sort of price for not doing so, but Gaga has both the most to lose by staying silent and the most power to wield by speaking up. If she publicly turns her back on Kelly now, it might actually bring some comfort to those survivors who've been discarded as collateral damage, repeatedly, for years, by a music industry that cares more about sales than women's personal safety. Gaga, of all people, should already know that.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/108417/lady-gaga-needs-to-talk-about-r-kelly","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_4","pop_1041"],"tags":["pop_3401","pop_3400","pop_3341","pop_320","pop_1105","pop_463"],"featImg":"pop_108419","label":"pop"},"pop_104682":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_104682","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"104682","score":null,"sort":[1532387467000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"r-kellys-i-admit-has-all-the-hallmarks-of-abuser-logic","title":"R. Kelly's \"I Admit\" Has All the Hallmarks of Abuser Logic","publishDate":1532387467,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>R. Kelly's 25-year career has been marred by controversy and abuse allegations since almost the very beginning. In 1994, at age 27, \u003ca href=\"http://thesource.com/2016/07/31/r-kelly-secretly-marries-15-year-old-aaliyah-22-years-ago-today/\">he married 15-year-old Aaliyah\u003c/a>, whom he'd first met when she was 12. In 1996, an ex-girlfriend sued him for emotional distress. In 2001, he was \u003ca href=\"https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40635526\">sued by an intern\u003c/a> who had a sexual relationship with Kelly when she was 17. Between 2002 and 2004, there were \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/14/arts/music/14kell.html\">child pornography trials\u003c/a>, stemming from a tape apparently showing Kelly engaged in sex acts with an underage girl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2017, three sets of parents accused Kelly of running a \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jimderogatis/parents-told-police-r-kelly-is-keeping-women-in-a-cult\">\"sex cult,\"\u003c/a> in which their daughters were being abused. Around that same time, three ex-members of Kelly’s entourage -- \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jimderogatis/parents-told-police-r-kelly-is-keeping-women-in-a-cult\">Cheryl Mack, Kitti Jones, and Asante McGee -- told BuzzFeed\u003c/a> that the singer dictates what his girlfriends \"eat, how they dress, when they bathe, when they sleep, and how they engage in sexual encounters that he records.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/style/wp/2018/05/04/feature/how-the-music-industry-overlooked-r-kellys-alleged-abuse-of-young-women/?utm_term=.7d40a4362556\">a 2018 \u003cem>Washington Post\u003c/em> article\u003c/a>, six women came forward with their stories of abuse by Kelly. The same story produced evidence of many music industry professionals actively covering for, or turning a blind eye to, Kelly's inappropriate behavior with young women. Demetrius Smith, his former tour manager, admitted: \"We didn’t look at ages because their mamas let them stay out all night.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For his part, R. Kelly has remained either silent or evasive. So when he released a 19-minute track titled \"I Admit\" (with its startling refrain: \"I admit it, I did it\"), it was no surprise that the track was quickly dissected.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/TalibKweli/status/1021411400206487554\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/CraigSJ/status/1021385196527136770\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/JessicaValenti/status/1021403247083507713\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://twitter.com/zellieimani/status/1021399648815263748\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Much of the online commentary has anticipated that this will result in an arrest of some sort, but given how long Kelly has been operating in plain sight, that feels depressingly unlikely, even in the age of #MeToo. There's no question that the content of \"I Admit\" is unabashedly self-indulgent and self-aggrandizing, but it also offers some insight into the mental state of abusers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kelly presents himself on the track as a victim first and foremost, whether within the realms of his own illiteracy (\"I admit I can't spell… I admit that I couldn't read the teleprompter when the Grammys asked me to present\"), his apparent financial troubles (\"All these hits out but I couldn't put food on the table\"), or the abuse he suffered as a child (\"I admit a family member touched me, from a child to the age 14, while I laid asleep, took my virginity\"). He declares that he \"ain't seen [his] kids in years,\" but his apology to his children (\"What you hearin' out here about dad, guys I'm sorry for this\") feels more about making his critics feel bad than any genuine remorse for how his actions have affected his kids.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ultimately, all of these confessions are used to deflect from the criticisms leveled at him. \"I Admit\" is a demonstration that not only is Kelly entirely unable to discern the difference between \"drinking and smoking too much\" and abusing women, he fundamentally doesn't understand why being sexually involved with very young women is any different to being intimate with age-appropriate women. (\"I admit I f**k with all the ladies, that's both older and young ladies. But tell me how they call it pedophile because that shit is crazy.\") He even seems to blame the parents of his \"girlfriends\" for putting them in his presence in this first place. (\"Don't push your daughter in my face, and tell me that it's okay, 'cause your agenda is to get paid, and get mad when it don't go your way.\")\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most remarkably, Kelly actively aligns himself with \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/103352/allegedly-no-more-cosby-conviction-marks-a-new-chapter-for-metoo\">convicted rapist Bill Cosby,\u003c/a> whom he seems to also view as a victim (\"they tryna lock me up like Bill\"), while also implying that any women in his company were somehow asking for it. (\"I ain't chasing these ladies, no. These ladies are chasing me… they tryna play me.\")\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This shifting of responsibility, inability to acknowledge wrongdoing, and suggestion that he couldn't possibly be responsible for anything that happens to his sexual partners, no matter their age, are all hallmarks of abuser logic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In May, \u003ca href=\"http://time.com/magazine/us/5272326/may-21st-2018-vol-191-no-19-u-s/\">\u003cem>Time\u003c/em> magazine\u003c/a> shone a light on the psyches of sexual offenders in an article about prison rehabilitation programs. In one documented therapy session, an offender said of his actions: \"I didn’t think of a 14-year-old as a child. I thought of myself at that age being highly sexualized. I thought everyone was.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In response to this, a licensed professional counselor interviewed for the story explained that:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"A sex offender often commits a crime by rationalizing it in some way: she wanted it, or my needs mattered more than hers. They convince themselves that a false notion is true -- a cognitive distortion. Therapists’ work often consists of challenging their clients’ false beliefs and encouraging them to develop a more realistic view of the world.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\"I Admit\" might be the most public, voluntary example of this type of rationalization we've ever heard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the \u003cem>Time\u003c/em> article is to be believed, there \u003cem>is\u003c/em> hope for offenders who receive the right kind of specialist counseling (a number of reformed convicts are featured). But as long as individuals like R. Kelly are free to operate in full view of the world \u003cem>and\u003c/em> make public justifications for their behavior, it doesn't just do a disservice to abuse survivors, it acts as a means to further empower other abusers. If anything truly positive is to come from \"I Admit,\" it must be the final straw that forces Kelly's enablers to acknowledge their own complicity, and do the right thing. Only then will the possibility of Kelly receiving appropriate consequences -- and treatment -- be possible.\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"The 19-minute track -- with its startling refrain of \"I admit it, I did it\" -- offers a disturbing look inside the mind of R. Kelly.","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1532387467,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":false,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":16,"wordCount":1011},"headData":{"title":"R. Kelly's \"I Admit\" Has All the Hallmarks of Abuser Logic | KQED","description":"The 19-minute track -- with its startling refrain of "I admit it, I did it" -- offers a disturbing look inside the mind of R. Kelly.","ogTitle":"","ogDescription":"","ogImgId":"","twTitle":"","twDescription":"","twImgId":""},"disqusIdentifier":"104682 https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/?p=104682","disqusUrl":"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/2018/07/23/r-kellys-i-admit-has-all-the-hallmarks-of-abuser-logic/","disqusTitle":"R. Kelly's \"I Admit\" Has All the Hallmarks of Abuser Logic","path":"/pop/104682/r-kellys-i-admit-has-all-the-hallmarks-of-abuser-logic","audioTrackLength":null,"parsedContent":[{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003cp>R. Kelly's 25-year career has been marred by controversy and abuse allegations since almost the very beginning. In 1994, at age 27, \u003ca href=\"http://thesource.com/2016/07/31/r-kelly-secretly-marries-15-year-old-aaliyah-22-years-ago-today/\">he married 15-year-old Aaliyah\u003c/a>, whom he'd first met when she was 12. In 1996, an ex-girlfriend sued him for emotional distress. In 2001, he was \u003ca href=\"https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40635526\">sued by an intern\u003c/a> who had a sexual relationship with Kelly when she was 17. Between 2002 and 2004, there were \u003ca href=\"https://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/14/arts/music/14kell.html\">child pornography trials\u003c/a>, stemming from a tape apparently showing Kelly engaged in sex acts with an underage girl.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In 2017, three sets of parents accused Kelly of running a \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jimderogatis/parents-told-police-r-kelly-is-keeping-women-in-a-cult\">\"sex cult,\"\u003c/a> in which their daughters were being abused. Around that same time, three ex-members of Kelly’s entourage -- \u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jimderogatis/parents-told-police-r-kelly-is-keeping-women-in-a-cult\">Cheryl Mack, Kitti Jones, and Asante McGee -- told BuzzFeed\u003c/a> that the singer dictates what his girlfriends \"eat, how they dress, when they bathe, when they sleep, and how they engage in sexual encounters that he records.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In \u003ca href=\"https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/style/wp/2018/05/04/feature/how-the-music-industry-overlooked-r-kellys-alleged-abuse-of-young-women/?utm_term=.7d40a4362556\">a 2018 \u003cem>Washington Post\u003c/em> article\u003c/a>, six women came forward with their stories of abuse by Kelly. The same story produced evidence of many music industry professionals actively covering for, or turning a blind eye to, Kelly's inappropriate behavior with young women. Demetrius Smith, his former tour manager, admitted: \"We didn’t look at ages because their mamas let them stay out all night.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>For his part, R. Kelly has remained either silent or evasive. So when he released a 19-minute track titled \"I Admit\" (with its startling refrain: \"I admit it, I did it\"), it was no surprise that the track was quickly dissected.\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1021411400206487554"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1021385196527136770"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1021403247083507713"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"singleTwitterStatus","attributes":{"named":{"id":"1021399648815263748"},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\n\u003cp>Much of the online commentary has anticipated that this will result in an arrest of some sort, but given how long Kelly has been operating in plain sight, that feels depressingly unlikely, even in the age of #MeToo. There's no question that the content of \"I Admit\" is unabashedly self-indulgent and self-aggrandizing, but it also offers some insight into the mental state of abusers.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Kelly presents himself on the track as a victim first and foremost, whether within the realms of his own illiteracy (\"I admit I can't spell… I admit that I couldn't read the teleprompter when the Grammys asked me to present\"), his apparent financial troubles (\"All these hits out but I couldn't put food on the table\"), or the abuse he suffered as a child (\"I admit a family member touched me, from a child to the age 14, while I laid asleep, took my virginity\"). He declares that he \"ain't seen [his] kids in years,\" but his apology to his children (\"What you hearin' out here about dad, guys I'm sorry for this\") feels more about making his critics feel bad than any genuine remorse for how his actions have affected his kids.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ultimately, all of these confessions are used to deflect from the criticisms leveled at him. \"I Admit\" is a demonstration that not only is Kelly entirely unable to discern the difference between \"drinking and smoking too much\" and abusing women, he fundamentally doesn't understand why being sexually involved with very young women is any different to being intimate with age-appropriate women. (\"I admit I f**k with all the ladies, that's both older and young ladies. But tell me how they call it pedophile because that shit is crazy.\") He even seems to blame the parents of his \"girlfriends\" for putting them in his presence in this first place. (\"Don't push your daughter in my face, and tell me that it's okay, 'cause your agenda is to get paid, and get mad when it don't go your way.\")\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Most remarkably, Kelly actively aligns himself with \u003ca href=\"https://www.kqed.org/pop/103352/allegedly-no-more-cosby-conviction-marks-a-new-chapter-for-metoo\">convicted rapist Bill Cosby,\u003c/a> whom he seems to also view as a victim (\"they tryna lock me up like Bill\"), while also implying that any women in his company were somehow asking for it. (\"I ain't chasing these ladies, no. These ladies are chasing me… they tryna play me.\")\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>This shifting of responsibility, inability to acknowledge wrongdoing, and suggestion that he couldn't possibly be responsible for anything that happens to his sexual partners, no matter their age, are all hallmarks of abuser logic.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In May, \u003ca href=\"http://time.com/magazine/us/5272326/may-21st-2018-vol-191-no-19-u-s/\">\u003cem>Time\u003c/em> magazine\u003c/a> shone a light on the psyches of sexual offenders in an article about prison rehabilitation programs. In one documented therapy session, an offender said of his actions: \"I didn’t think of a 14-year-old as a child. I thought of myself at that age being highly sexualized. I thought everyone was.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>In response to this, a licensed professional counselor interviewed for the story explained that:\u003c/p>\n\u003cblockquote>\u003cp>\"A sex offender often commits a crime by rationalizing it in some way: she wanted it, or my needs mattered more than hers. They convince themselves that a false notion is true -- a cognitive distortion. Therapists’ work often consists of challenging their clients’ false beliefs and encouraging them to develop a more realistic view of the world.\"\u003c/p>\u003c/blockquote>\n\u003cp>\"I Admit\" might be the most public, voluntary example of this type of rationalization we've ever heard.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>If the \u003cem>Time\u003c/em> article is to be believed, there \u003cem>is\u003c/em> hope for offenders who receive the right kind of specialist counseling (a number of reformed convicts are featured). But as long as individuals like R. Kelly are free to operate in full view of the world \u003cem>and\u003c/em> make public justifications for their behavior, it doesn't just do a disservice to abuse survivors, it acts as a means to further empower other abusers. If anything truly positive is to come from \"I Admit,\" it must be the final straw that forces Kelly's enablers to acknowledge their own complicity, and do the right thing. Only then will the possibility of Kelly receiving appropriate consequences -- and treatment -- be possible.\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/104682/r-kellys-i-admit-has-all-the-hallmarks-of-abuser-logic","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_4","pop_1536"],"tags":["pop_463"],"featImg":"pop_104685","label":"pop"},"pop_86198":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_86198","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"86198","score":null,"sort":[1502719206000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"the-most-creepily-problematic-sexy-songs-of-the-1990s","title":"The Most Creepily Problematic Sexy Songs of the 1990s","publishDate":1502719206,"format":"standard","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>Since the dawn of rock and pop music, there have been songs specifically designed to shock, or at the very least cause some discomfort. Before you listen to a song like \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rS6mZUo3fg\">\"Rape Me\"\u003c/a> by Nirvana or The Prodigy's \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgcHbNV_DL4\">\"Smack My B***h Up,\"\u003c/a> you know well in advance that you're about to listen to something that might make you uncomfortable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But what about the songs that, on the surface, seem perfectly normal but are, in fact, drenched in creepdom? These jams catch you off guard, engage your gag reflex, and make you wonder how you heard a song so many times before and never realized how gross it was. Here's a selection of some of the worst offenders from the 1990s. Prepare to shudder.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"Semi-Charmed Life\" by Third Eye Blind (1997)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beINamVRGy4\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Careful now. Watching Stephan Jenkins in this video, rolling up Valencia Street, past \u003ca href=\"http://boogaloossf.com/\">Boogaloo's\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"http://www.valenciacyclery.com/\">Valencia Cyclery\u003c/a>, can be quite distracting if you're a San Francisco resident. Even if you're not, the jauntiness of the doo-doo-doo's and the stupidly catchy chorus will have a similar effect, lulling you into a false sense of security about the niceness of this song. And then one day you notice -- bam! -- Stephan Jenkins is singing about being a cocaine-addled sex pest. The drug use in this song isn't even subtle once you finally notice it: \"...a bump for the drop, And then I bumped up, I took the hit I was given, Then I bumped again, And then I bumped again.\" Then there's the creepy talk of \"little red panties,\" pushing a woman \"face down on the mattress,\" and -- this is peak stalker -- \"not listening when you say goodbye.\" Major creepsville.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"Age Ain't Nothing But a Number\" by Aaliyah (1994)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRwhm-B6yNI\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The first time you hear the smooth grooves of \"Age Ain't Nothing But a Number,\" it's undoubtedly seductive. Because of her vocal prowess, it's easy to forget that Aaliyah was only 15 when this track came out, but think of a 15-year-old in your life singing this track to an older suitor for a second, and it immediately ceases to be a romantic jam. Then when you find out that R. Kelly -- a man whose \u003ca href=\"http://www.spin.com/2013/12/r-kelly-sex-crimes-jim-derogatis/\">predilection for underage girls\u003c/a>, and possibly even\u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimderogatis/parents-told-police-r-kelly-is-keeping-women-in-a-cult?utm_term=.oda9j11p9#.bb2yMnnOy\"> cults\u003c/a>, is well-documented -- wrote it, it basically stops being a song and starts sounding like the open planning of a sex crime. The world misses you, Aaliyah, but... no.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"...Baby One More Time\" by Britney Spears (1998)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-u5WLJ9Yk4\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Ever wonder why the name of this song is so awkward? With the ellipses and everything? It's probably because someone in Jive Records' marketing department noticed that this record cover would become instantly problematic if it had the words \"Hit Me\" on it.\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter wp-image-86206 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/06/britney.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/06/britney.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/06/britney-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/06/britney-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/06/britney-375x281.jpg 375w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"Do Me!\" by Bel Biv Devoe (1990)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZieygZyvw4A\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Before you think this one is too obvious -- and yes, it is crazy obvious on the general this-song-is-definitely-about-gross-sex front -- the problem here is not all the talk of smacking, flipping, and doing. It's not even all the sex noises peppered throughout (though they do bring a general creep vibe to the thing). No, the reason this dumb song about sex is on this list is because of the sneaky statutory rape hidden in the middle of it: \"Take off your clothes and leave on your shoes, Would you mind if I looked at you for a moment? Before I make sweet love. Backstage, underage, adolescent.\" Not as funny now, is it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"Crash Into Me\" by Dave Matthews Band (1996)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7in-9E3ImQ\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>Awww, what a beautiful song about love, infatuation, and the art of heterosexual lovemaking! What a quintessentially '90s music video full of technicolor trees and elegant ladies dancing in slow motion! You just know that, all across the world, \"Crash Into Me\" has probably soundtracked an awful lot of white people's sexy times. And all of those couples probably never noticed the part at the very end of this song when Matthews' protagonist changes his tone: \"Hike up your skirt a little bit,\" he demands. \"Oh, I watch you there, through the window, and I stare at you.\" It's a song about a peeping Tom, everyone. Artfully done, Matthews. Artfully done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"Kiss Me\" by Sixpence None the Richer (1998)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N-qO3sPMjc\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>The prettiest, most innocent little song about young, rural love? Or a song featuring many thinly-veiled references to cunnilingus?** \u003ca href=\"https://play.google.com/music/preview/Tdmbo5gdxrtt4ye7aj6gbn276fe?lyrics=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=lyrics&pcampaignid=kp-lyrics\">Study the lyrics\u003c/a> and you decide!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[**This unsubstantiated theory brought forth to you by someone I went to college with, who believed wholeheartedly that \"Kiss Me\" was not as innocuous as it seemed. You will never hear it the same again.]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Got any secretly creepy '90s songs of your own? Leave them in the comments!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"A look at some horrors hiding in some of your favorite '90s pop songs. ","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1502408319,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":18,"wordCount":863},"headData":{"title":"The Most Creepily Problematic Sexy Songs of the 1990s | KQED","description":"A look at some horrors hiding in some of your favorite '90s pop songs. 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Before you listen to a song like \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rS6mZUo3fg\">\"Rape Me\"\u003c/a> by Nirvana or The Prodigy's \u003ca href=\"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgcHbNV_DL4\">\"Smack My B***h Up,\"\u003c/a> you know well in advance that you're about to listen to something that might make you uncomfortable.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>But what about the songs that, on the surface, seem perfectly normal but are, in fact, drenched in creepdom? These jams catch you off guard, engage your gag reflex, and make you wonder how you heard a song so many times before and never realized how gross it was. Here's a selection of some of the worst offenders from the 1990s. Prepare to shudder.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"Semi-Charmed Life\" by Third Eye Blind (1997)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/beINamVRGy4'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/beINamVRGy4'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Careful now. Watching Stephan Jenkins in this video, rolling up Valencia Street, past \u003ca href=\"http://boogaloossf.com/\">Boogaloo's\u003c/a> and \u003ca href=\"http://www.valenciacyclery.com/\">Valencia Cyclery\u003c/a>, can be quite distracting if you're a San Francisco resident. Even if you're not, the jauntiness of the doo-doo-doo's and the stupidly catchy chorus will have a similar effect, lulling you into a false sense of security about the niceness of this song. And then one day you notice -- bam! -- Stephan Jenkins is singing about being a cocaine-addled sex pest. The drug use in this song isn't even subtle once you finally notice it: \"...a bump for the drop, And then I bumped up, I took the hit I was given, Then I bumped again, And then I bumped again.\" Then there's the creepy talk of \"little red panties,\" pushing a woman \"face down on the mattress,\" and -- this is peak stalker -- \"not listening when you say goodbye.\" Major creepsville.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"Age Ain't Nothing But a Number\" by Aaliyah (1994)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/rRwhm-B6yNI'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/rRwhm-B6yNI'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>The first time you hear the smooth grooves of \"Age Ain't Nothing But a Number,\" it's undoubtedly seductive. Because of her vocal prowess, it's easy to forget that Aaliyah was only 15 when this track came out, but think of a 15-year-old in your life singing this track to an older suitor for a second, and it immediately ceases to be a romantic jam. Then when you find out that R. Kelly -- a man whose \u003ca href=\"http://www.spin.com/2013/12/r-kelly-sex-crimes-jim-derogatis/\">predilection for underage girls\u003c/a>, and possibly even\u003ca href=\"https://www.buzzfeed.com/jimderogatis/parents-told-police-r-kelly-is-keeping-women-in-a-cult?utm_term=.oda9j11p9#.bb2yMnnOy\"> cults\u003c/a>, is well-documented -- wrote it, it basically stops being a song and starts sounding like the open planning of a sex crime. The world misses you, Aaliyah, but... no.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"...Baby One More Time\" by Britney Spears (1998)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/C-u5WLJ9Yk4'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/C-u5WLJ9Yk4'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Ever wonder why the name of this song is so awkward? With the ellipses and everything? It's probably because someone in Jive Records' marketing department noticed that this record cover would become instantly problematic if it had the words \"Hit Me\" on it.\u003cimg class=\"aligncenter wp-image-86206 size-full\" src=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/pop/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2017/06/britney.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"400\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/06/britney.jpg 400w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/06/britney-160x120.jpg 160w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/06/britney-240x180.jpg 240w, https://ww2.kqed.org/app/uploads/sites/12/2017/06/britney-375x281.jpg 375w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\">\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"Do Me!\" by Bel Biv Devoe (1990)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/ZieygZyvw4A'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/ZieygZyvw4A'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Before you think this one is too obvious -- and yes, it is crazy obvious on the general this-song-is-definitely-about-gross-sex front -- the problem here is not all the talk of smacking, flipping, and doing. It's not even all the sex noises peppered throughout (though they do bring a general creep vibe to the thing). No, the reason this dumb song about sex is on this list is because of the sneaky statutory rape hidden in the middle of it: \"Take off your clothes and leave on your shoes, Would you mind if I looked at you for a moment? Before I make sweet love. Backstage, underage, adolescent.\" Not as funny now, is it?\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"Crash Into Me\" by Dave Matthews Band (1996)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/k7in-9E3ImQ'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/k7in-9E3ImQ'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>Awww, what a beautiful song about love, infatuation, and the art of heterosexual lovemaking! What a quintessentially '90s music video full of technicolor trees and elegant ladies dancing in slow motion! You just know that, all across the world, \"Crash Into Me\" has probably soundtracked an awful lot of white people's sexy times. And all of those couples probably never noticed the part at the very end of this song when Matthews' protagonist changes his tone: \"Hike up your skirt a little bit,\" he demands. \"Oh, I watch you there, through the window, and I stare at you.\" It's a song about a peeping Tom, everyone. Artfully done, Matthews. Artfully done.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cstrong>\"Kiss Me\" by Sixpence None the Richer (1998)\u003c/strong>\u003c/p>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/8N-qO3sPMjc'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/8N-qO3sPMjc'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cp>The prettiest, most innocent little song about young, rural love? Or a song featuring many thinly-veiled references to cunnilingus?** \u003ca href=\"https://play.google.com/music/preview/Tdmbo5gdxrtt4ye7aj6gbn276fe?lyrics=1&utm_source=google&utm_medium=search&utm_campaign=lyrics&pcampaignid=kp-lyrics\">Study the lyrics\u003c/a> and you decide!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[**This unsubstantiated theory brought forth to you by someone I went to college with, who believed wholeheartedly that \"Kiss Me\" was not as innocuous as it seemed. You will never hear it the same again.]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003cem>Got any secretly creepy '90s songs of your own? Leave them in the comments!\u003c/em>\u003c/p>\n\n\u003c/div>\u003c/p>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}}],"link":"/pop/86198/the-most-creepily-problematic-sexy-songs-of-the-1990s","authors":["11242"],"categories":["pop_4"],"tags":["pop_2972","pop_2970","pop_651","pop_2969","pop_463","pop_2971","pop_2831"],"featImg":"pop_86393","label":"pop"},"pop_2958":{"type":"posts","id":"pop_2958","meta":{"index":"posts_1591205157","site":"pop","id":"2958","score":null,"sort":[1364226573000]},"guestAuthors":[],"slug":"r-kelly-plus-bjork-and-other-unexpected-musical-marriages","title":"R. Kelly Plus Bjork and Other Unexpected Musical Marriages","publishDate":1364226573,"format":"aside","headTitle":"KQED Pop | KQED Arts","labelTerm":{"site":"pop"},"content":"\u003cp>So, as you may have heard, R. Kelly and Bjork are going to do a full set together at this year's Pitchfork music festival in Chicago, July 19-21. According to \u003ca href=\"http://thoughtcatalog.com/2013/r-kelly-and-bjork-to-perform-together-in-once-in-a-lifetime-pitchfork-fest-2013-joint-set/\">Thought Catalog\u003c/a>, R. Kelly had this to say of the performance: \"“It’s gonna be funky you know. She do what she do, and I do what I do. I like her style. I think I can bring a little of what \u003cem>I\u003c/em> do to what \u003cem>she\u003c/em> do. And you’re gonna like it. We just gonna have fun. So bring all yo friends. Tell them there’s this Icelandic lady, and it’s Kellz, and we’re gonna get down.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>American culture can be real \"Gemini\" sometimes. On the one hand, we don't like people of different sorts mixing too much, and we pass all kinds of laws and perpetuate social practices that make sure everyone stays in their own lane as much as possible. On the other hand, we also love collaborations between unlikely pairs -- perhaps in part because it's a little taboo?\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur1N3UyT1lE&w=420&h=315]\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>I remember back when this country cover of Snoop Dogg's \"Gin & Juice\" by The Gourds came out, people thought it was SO FUNNY. Like, OMG country music and hip hop, what could be more different? Nothing! Well... sorta. The stereotype is that black people listen to hip hop, and poor white people listen to country music, and also that black people don't like white people and that poor white people are more racist than other kinds of white people. With this as a foundation, when there's a \"redneck version\" of Gin & Juice, we are surprised! Of course, the truth is, country and hip-hop both have roots in blues music, and poor white people and black people have a lot of parallel struggles in this nation -- it makes sense both groups would relate to each other's music.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XTXHvae10o&w=560&h=315]\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>One of my favorite hip-hop x country moments is this awesome cover of \"Irreplaceable\" by Sugarland, in which Queen Bey makes a surprise appearance. I remember reading somewhere that when Neyo wrote the song, he set out specifically to do an R&B version of a country song. He also wrote it thinking a man would sing it. Anyway, while this clip does make me feel a little bad for Sugarland's Jennifer Nettles when Beyonce kind of slays her vocally, I also get a real girl-power-sisterhood-across-cultures feeling when I watch this video.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FzD41pWIzo&w=560&h=315]\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>Circling back to R. Kelly, I recently came across this clip of Joseph Gordon-Levitt covering \"Remix\" to Ignition on acoustic guitar. Now, while country music and R&B and hip-hop are like, genetic cousins from fueding families, JGL's brand of hipster ukelele music really does feel disconnected from R. Kelly's musically sophisticated lyrically vulgar bump & grind R&B. Also, hipsters love things that are \"random,\" and probably are nostalgic for the turn-of-the-century, when they were young and listening to Top 40 before they discovered \"real\" music. While my scare-quotes and sarcasm may lead you to correctly assume that I find this particular kind of nostalgia condescending and obnoxious, I happen to also be totally-crushed-out on JGL in all his surrogate-lesbian glory, which I think makes me automatically some percent hipster.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>[ad fullwidth]\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED, what unexpected collaborations do you love? Tell us in the comments!\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp> \u003c/p>\n\n","blocks":[],"excerpt":"Is our love of unexpected collaborations related to the taboo?","status":"publish","parent":0,"modified":1552089841,"stats":{"hasAudio":false,"hasVideo":true,"hasChartOrMap":false,"iframeSrcs":[],"hasGoogleForm":false,"hasGallery":false,"hasHearkenModule":false,"hasPolis":false,"paragraphCount":8,"wordCount":637},"headData":{"title":"R. 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According to \u003ca href=\"http://thoughtcatalog.com/2013/r-kelly-and-bjork-to-perform-together-in-once-in-a-lifetime-pitchfork-fest-2013-joint-set/\">Thought Catalog\u003c/a>, R. Kelly had this to say of the performance: \"“It’s gonna be funky you know. She do what she do, and I do what I do. I like her style. I think I can bring a little of what \u003cem>I\u003c/em> do to what \u003cem>she\u003c/em> do. And you’re gonna like it. We just gonna have fun. So bring all yo friends. Tell them there’s this Icelandic lady, and it’s Kellz, and we’re gonna get down.”\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>American culture can be real \"Gemini\" sometimes. On the one hand, we don't like people of different sorts mixing too much, and we pass all kinds of laws and perpetuate social practices that make sure everyone stays in their own lane as much as possible. On the other hand, we also love collaborations between unlikely pairs -- perhaps in part because it's a little taboo?\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/ur1N3UyT1lE'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/ur1N3UyT1lE'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>I remember back when this country cover of Snoop Dogg's \"Gin & Juice\" by The Gourds came out, people thought it was SO FUNNY. Like, OMG country music and hip hop, what could be more different? Nothing! Well... sorta. 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I remember reading somewhere that when Neyo wrote the song, he set out specifically to do an R&B version of a country song. He also wrote it thinking a man would sing it. Anyway, while this clip does make me feel a little bad for Sugarland's Jennifer Nettles when Beyonce kind of slays her vocally, I also get a real girl-power-sisterhood-across-cultures feeling when I watch this video.\u003c/p>\n\u003cdiv class=\"single-video\">\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutube'>\n \u003cspan class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__embedYoutubeInside'>\n \u003ciframe\n loading='lazy'\n class='utils-parseShortcode-shortcodes-__youtubeShortcode__youtubePlayer'\n type='text/html'\n src='//www.youtube.com/embed/1FzD41pWIzo'\n title='//www.youtube.com/embed/1FzD41pWIzo'\n allowfullscreen='true'\n style='border:0;'>\u003c/iframe>\n \u003c/span>\n \u003c/span>\u003c/p>\u003cp>\u003c/div>\n\u003cp>Circling back to R. 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While my scare-quotes and sarcasm may lead you to correctly assume that I find this particular kind of nostalgia condescending and obnoxious, I happen to also be totally-crushed-out on JGL in all his surrogate-lesbian glory, which I think makes me automatically some percent hipster.\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>\u003c/p>\u003c/div>","attributes":{"named":{},"numeric":[]}},{"type":"component","content":"","name":"ad","attributes":{"named":{"label":"fullwidth"},"numeric":["fullwidth"]}},{"type":"contentString","content":"\u003cdiv class=\"post-body\">\u003cp>\u003c/p>\n\u003cp>KQED, what unexpected collaborations do you love? 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