October 17th, 2005

My chat with digital-era hero Craig Newmark, founder of craigslist, is available on this website (via streaming video) right now -- before its first broadcast (tonight at 7:30, to be repeated on Friday night at 10:30). Just click on the "TV Program" link at the top of this page.

Craig and me! Not since Carl Reiner interviewed Mel Brooks in the classic "2000-Year-Old Man" sketches has so much bald virility been displayed in a single conversation. It could change the whole paradigm of the kind of person we expect to see on the small screen. Or, more likely, it's a statistical anomaly -- a brief, shiny-headed blip in the noble procession of beautifully coiffed televisers.

Either way, I loved talking with him. The guy is so soft-spoken and self-effacing that his passion -- especially for creating and maintaining an online community that is ethical, uncommercial, and non-exploitive -- may take a while to make itself evident. But that passion is there -- along with a refreshing optimism about the essential goodness of human nature (aside from a sprinkling of bad guys, whom Craig seems to be hunting down almost 24/7). If you ever find yourself worrying that computers -- such as the one you're using at this moment -- are an alienating force in human society, check out what Craig Newmark has to say. And, of course, check out craigslist. Chances are, you already do. ...

By the way, the makers of a terrific-looking documentary, 24 Hours on Craigslist, graciously allowed us to use a clip from their film. For info on where it's running, and about the DVD due out next spring, check out their website. ...

Also on this show, we did a "Wandering Josh" where I visited with one of the delightful people who use craigslist: Marcy Schaaf, chapter manager of SaveABunny, a rabbit rescue and placement organization for San Francisco and Marin. After you watch this segment, I think you'll want to hug a bunny -- or at least feed some mixed greens to a really hungry bald guy. ...

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  • 1. Jim-Bob  |  October 17th, 2005 at 7:43 pm

    Outstanding show as always!

  • 2. Julie Bernstein  |  October 17th, 2005 at 7:48 pm

    Yay for Craigslist! I posted a personal ad there four years ago, and ended up marrying the guy who responded!

    And yay for bunnies! Now I want one…

  • 3. Sue T.  |  October 18th, 2005 at 10:08 am

    The scenes of Josh snuggling the bunny were soooo cute! Josh, did you actually wind up adopting a bunny? I was thrilled to see Craig N. as last night’s guest — like most people in this area, I have my own “Craigslist story.” I found my beloved Boston Terrier mix, Hobie, through Craigslist about five years ago. I gave him an extra pat while we were watching that segment!

  • 4. Josh Kornbluth  |  October 18th, 2005 at 9:20 pm

    Jim-Bob: Thanks so much!!

    Julie: Wow — I had no idea you met Ziggy through craigslist. If that’s all Craig had accomplished, I’d say he’d had a fine career.

    Sue T.: Unfortunately, I couldn’t adopt a bunny myself, as our building doesn’t allow pets who don’t live in tanks. And truth be told, if we were allowed to have such pets, I’m pretty sure that we’d fulfill my son’s long-time dream of having a dog (we love Boston Terriers, by the way, along with French Bulldogs). But those rabbits sure were adorable! And as I learned, the really big ones, like Esmerelda — which are the hardest ones to find homes for — are generally the best cuddlers.

  • 5. Rita Marie  |  October 19th, 2005 at 11:38 am

    truly delightful program, both josh AND craig. i have renewed faith in humanity. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK JOSH! i think i may need a tee shirt.

  • 6. ellen and larry  |  October 19th, 2005 at 1:45 pm

    Kudos on your KQED show. We love watching it! Ever since Haiku Tunnel we’ve been keeping tabs on you and we’re thrilled that you’ve made it big on the interview circuit. BTW, We adopted a bunny named Lilly from the House Rabbit Society almost four years ago. Thank you for sharing such a sensitive and educational segment about bunnies. We think that if everyone had a bunny the world would be a better place. Just think of how mellow you were when you snuggled with Esmerelda…..

  • 7. Stephen S.  |  October 19th, 2005 at 5:16 pm

    DOOD! why would you be drinking Starbucks cofee on PBS ?! DO you realize during your Bunny story, you did? $tarbucks cofee is 98% not freetrade cofee…You need a show on, or a visit by Reverend Billy and the Church of Stop Shopping (…the Mission will love you

    for gawd sakes man…great show otherwise



  • 8. piko : dori’s p&hellip  |  October 19th, 2005 at 6:37 pm

    […] Josh Kornbluth, host of KQED’s The Josh Kornbluth Show, features a quirky interview (well worth watching!) with Craig Newmark, the creator of craigslist. I’m a great admirer of “So much bald virility”—but, really, the sexiest man alive is this guy! –> […]

  • 9. Liz  |  October 19th, 2005 at 11:15 pm

    I smiled through the whole show, and I only smile like, once a day when I wake up and see my dog looking at me. Loved it when Craig mentioned how short bald Jewish guys were really sexy now and Josh said he wouldn’t know anything about that. The bunny sequence was hysterical. I was upset to just find ou on the website that Josh didn’t really adopt that bunny he was snuggling with. CHANGE THE RULES apartment house owner.

  • 10. Carl L  |  October 20th, 2005 at 12:31 pm


    Thanks for the interview of Craig N. This kind of show really sets you apart from the pack: indepth on local folks who maybe we don’t know that perhaps we should. Not that celebrities aren’t interesting, but they usually have ample access to the media to tell their stories.

    Looking forward to more…

  • 11. Catherine  |  October 20th, 2005 at 9:05 pm

    Horay for Josh and here is a Show Idea………………

    I loved both the Save-A-Bunny Lady / Craig of Craigslist show and also the Alan Alda book show……………….

    Those are the only two I have seen so far and they were both great………………

    We put you on our tivo as a season pass so we will be sure to see them all. Feel free to run the bunnies, Craig, and Alan Alda as re-runs anytime…………………….

    My friend and her husband said Josh was a comedian in San Francisco they liked so we told them about your show and now they have it tivo-ed as a season pass, too………………….

    I have an idea for a show. There is an Asian woman writer who lives in the Sunset district of San Francisco, CA and she would prbably be a fun person to interview on your show………………….

    She went to my high school in San Francisco. She was funny, smart, and nice, but we traveled in different circles. She would not remember me at all. Time passed. I just read a book she wrote mostly about her life, and it was one of those you almost read the whole thing in one night but stop yourself just so you can read the rest the next night. It might be kind of a chick book, but it is funny and kind of an insiders view………………………………………………..

    The writer’s name is Kim Wong Keltner and the book is titled The Dim Sum Of All Things, ISBN # is 0-06-056075-4, it is a medium sized paperback with a light green cover and a round red tray with a panda on it, published by Harper Collins. It has a photo of the writer on it on the back cover………………………

    Anyway, if I think of any other interesting people for you I’ll post it……………….

    Thank You!

  • 12. Josh Kornbluth  |  October 23rd, 2005 at 8:17 pm

    Thanks, everyone, for your wonderful comments!

    Rita Marie: Did you get a T-shirt? That would be so cool …

    Ellen & Larry: Sign me up for your Peace Bunny concept!

    Stephen S.: Argghh — I’m busted! Pretty much all the time I’m drinking Peet’s — I swear! … As for Rev. Billy (aka Bill Talen), as it happens he’s a very long-term acquaintaince of mine!

    Dori: Thanks for the shout-out on your blog!

    Liz: Learning of your smile makes me smile.

    Carl L.: I totally agree with you about celebrity interviews.

    Catherine: I’m so glad you’ve been enjoying the show! And thanks for recommending the Kim Wong Keltner book — I’ll check it out!

  • 13. Ruth H. Shibley  |  October 28th, 2005 at 10:57 pm

    I loved your Craig Newmark show. He is quite a guy and it was great to get to know something about him. I put a personal ad in and met someone who lives in my own town. No long questionnaires to fill out, just stating the facts in one sentence was all it took.

    I enjoyed your Lemony Snicket program too very much. I saw the movie in January because I like Jim Carrey. I thought it was great and I’m 70 years old. I thought it was a great role for Carrey.

    Thanks in general for your program. I’ll be watching faithfully from now on, like put it on the calendar and set my alarm. Rock on.

  • 14. Josh Kornbluth  |  October 29th, 2005 at 2:39 pm

    Thanks, Ruth!! I love that craigslist worked so well for you!

  • 15. Dave from Menlo  |  November 10th, 2005 at 9:25 pm

    IIt might looks like Peet’s. It might smell like Peet’s. It might even taste like Peet’s…but….that cup of joe you’re sipping is EVIL!

    “Posted by: jpcooper | Aug 27, 2004 11:20:44 AM


    There is actually a long and somewhat complicated history between Peet’s and Starbuck’s.

    The founders of Starbuck’s were introduced to specialty coffee by Peet’s and soon they were working there trying to learn everything they could about buying, roasting, and selling specialty coffee.

    In 1984 Peet decided to retire and sold the (then) 5 Peet’s stores to the founders of Starbuck’s which also had 5 stores at the time.

    Around the same time Starbuck’s Marketing Director Howard Schultz was working on his concept to open Italian style coffee bars in Seattle. In 1985 he would found Il Giornale to further develop the concept.

    In 1987 Schultz and a group of investors buy Starbuck’s from it’s founders. Il Giornale changes it’s name to Starbuck’s and the Starbuck’s founders keep Peet’s.

    Jerry Baldwin, one of the Starbuck’s founders, is today still the Director of Peet’s.”


  • 16. KPV  |  December 27th, 2005 at 4:56 pm

    Here’s an interesting article about Craig in the SF Weekly.

    “The much-loved Web site is taking millions from Bay Area newspapers and causing layoffs that adversely affect coverage. And its founder’s well-intentioned support of citizen journalism has a slim chance of fixing the problem.”

  • 17. Josh Kornbluth  |  January 2nd, 2006 at 2:05 pm

    Thanks for the provacative complexifications, Dave & KPV!

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