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Should the U.S. Intervene in Egypt?

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Given Egypt’s continued turmoil and bloodshed, is it the United States’ role to intervene in the crisis?

Introduction

Journalism is inherently a fickle business. It’s all too common for the media to bounce from crisis to crisis, as has been the case recently in the Middle East. When the spotlight shifted from Egypt to Syria earlier this year, it was easy enough for us to assume that, in the absence of daily news coverage, that conditions in Egypt had improved. That, unfortunately, is far from the reality of the situation on the ground: Egypt remains a nation mired in deep-seeded violent conflict.

Here’s a brief rundown of what’s happening (This is adapted from an article on PBS Frontline):

The most recent conflict in Egypt is rooted in a 2011 popular uprising against the dictatorial regime of President Hosni Mubarak. Following nearly three weeks of protests centered in Cairo’s Tahrir Square, in which hundreds were killed by government forces, Mubarak in February handed over power to the military’s ruling body — known as the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces. He was imprisoned and the nation’s constitution and parliament were immediately disbanded.

With Mubarak’s former prime minister chosen to head the new council, the military laid out a six-month timeframe to draft a new constitution and hold new parliamentary and presidential elections. They promised to cede power to a newly elected civilian government. Shortly thereafter, however, the military violently suppressed new protests, arresting hundreds.

Parliamentary elections began in November. The lengthy process resulted in overwhelming victories for Islamist parties in both houses, putting the Islamists firmly in control of the parliament. By the spring of 2012, Egypt’s presidential elections commenced, and amidst an initial field of 13 candidates, two finalists emerged: Mohammed Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood’s candidate, and Ahmed Shafik, the last prime minister under Mubarak. But, the day before the June runoff, the military made another power grab, shutting down parliament and awarding itself sweeping new powers, including, among other things, control over the budget and the authority to issue new laws. Soon thereafter, Morsi was elected Egypt’s new president — its first Islamist head of state – even as the office now held significantly less power. He was sworn in on June 30, 2012, promising to be a president to “all Egyptians.”

But things began to heat up almost immediately, when Morsi attempted to reclaim his presidential powers by ordering the top Mubarak-era military leadership to retire, nullified the military’s June declaration and chose Gen. Abdul Fattah el-Sisi, the former head of military intelligence, as his defense minister.

By November, Morsi had granted himself additional powers. Meanwhile, a new constitution drafted by a coalition of ruling Islamic parties, was widely criticized by human rights groups for side-lining the rights of women, Christians and intellectuals. By early December, a new round of protests had erupted, and by January, demonstrators returned to Tahrir Square, to protest against Morsi’s government.

Over the next several months, the protests – some of which involved violent clashes with police – spread quickly. By April of 2013, a new full-fledged movement had emerged, led by a group of young Egyptians, known as “Tamarod,” or rebel, who circulated a petition demanding Morsi’s resignation and new elections. The group also called for mass protests on the June anniversary of Morsi’s inauguration.

In mid-June (2013), Tamarod claimed to have gathered 22 million signatures on its petition, and Sisi, Morsi’s Defense Minister, issued a public warning that the growing split between Morsi’s supporters and their opponents might compel the military “to intervene.”

By late June, Egypt again erupted in protest, with millions demanding that Morsi step down. The mass demonstrations prompted Sisi to give Morsi an ultimatum to resolve the situation within 48 hours or relinquish power. And on July 3, Morsi was removed from power and placed under house arrest.

Soon thereafter, the new military leadership, led by Sisi, suspended the constitution, shut down several Islamist media outlets and issues hundreds of arrest warrants for Muslim Brotherhood officials. Morsi’s supporters declared the action a “military coup.”

By early July, Sisi had chosen Supreme Court Chief Justice Adly Mansour to serve as Egypt’s interim president and a interim cabinet with no Islamist members.

Since then, Egypt has been in a perpetual state of unrest, replete with bloody protests, assassination attempts and the release of former President Hosni Mubarak from prison, a major slap in the face to millions of protestors who fought, back in 2011, for him to be brought to justice.

Throughout the conflict, the United States has been hesitant to intervene, as it has long relied on Egypt as a strategic Middle East ally in the middle of a volatile region. In a statement in August, Obama said the he “strongly condemns the steps that have been taken” by the government and security forces, and cancelled a biannual joint military exercise with Egypt that was scheduled for September. However, he did not go as far as cutting the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.

“America cannot determine the future of Egypt,” he said.

Resource

New York Times video Calls for End to Violence in Egypt
The Obama administration on Wednesday condemned the Egyptian military’s bloody crackdown on Muslim Brotherhood protesters, but showed no signs of taking any tough steps, like suspending American aid, in response.


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More Resources

PBS NewsHour Extra article New Clashes Kill Dozens in Egypt
New deadly clashes have swept across Egypt killing dozens of protesters, civilians and soldiers. More than 50 people were killed Sunday, Oct. 6 as Egyptians celebrated the 40 anniversary of the 1973 Arab-Israeli. The violence started when Cairo police and armed citizens used tear gas and gunfire to prevent Islamist protesters from joining the war anniversary celebration in Tahrir Square. Officials estimate that over 250 people were injured in the clashes.

New York Times video Obama Deplores Crackdown in Egypt
The president announced that the United States had canceled joint military exercises with Egypt next month in response to the violent move to end protests.

New York Times video Two Narratives of the Violence in Egypt
With hundreds of protesters dead, supporters and opponents of the Muslim Brotherhood are circulating opposing videos to push each side’s view of the calamity.


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  • Guest

    Based on the facts presented in this article, my position would be that it is right for the U.S to voice our opinion on the events taking place in Egypt. Moreover — for us to intervene in what seems to be a civil war is not in our best interest. It could jeopardize the valuable friendly connection between the United States and Egypt, and could cause unnecessary future conflict in the area. Furthermore, I support our pulling out of the bi-annual military exercise puts action behind Obama’s words “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.”

    • Maeve_K_Period2

      oops posted this anonymously

  • Maeve_K_Period2

    Based on the facts presented in this article, my position would be that it is right for the U.S to voice our opinion on the events taking place in Egypt. Moreover — for us to intervene in what seems to be a civil war is not in our best interest. It could jeopardize the valuable friendly connection between the United States and Egypt, and could cause unnecessary future conflict in the area. Furthermore, I support our pulling out of the bi-annual military exercise puts action behind Obama’s words “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.”

    • Callie_H_Period2

      Hear, hear! Time isn’t definite. Nothing that happens is for sure. If one decision affected our past, why can’t it effect the future? However, I think you’re right. Obama has said that we can’t determine the future, and while he has said some things that don’t really make much sense, that pretty much sums it up.

      • Tayla_k_period4

        I disagree with you, Maeve. You have a point about jeopardizing our friendship with Egypt, but if we get involved this could lead to even more debt, and we could end up paying for their supplies. Yet I still agree on what you said about Obama’s words about how America can’t determined the future of Egypt. However we should let Egypt deal with their problems on their own.

    • Shemar_D_2

      Great point, we could totally mess up what we have have Egypt and we probably don’t want that. Right now with Syria we need a positive influence on middle east countries, and jeopardizing a possible relationship with egypt is too much to risk.

  • Callie_H_Period2

    I personally think that we should stay out of Egypt. Not only is it such a sensitive area to be in at this time, we also must factor in that the United States is in so much debt. $17 trillion according to BBC News. It’s a civil war. Foreign aid isn’t absolutely needed on any side. While there are serious problems there, such as Military and Presidential corruption (as stated above) do we really want to turn people away from us? America is not the global power we used to be. We rely on imports. We don’t export much. All the oil is in the Middle East. Due to Syrian stances, Russia is against us. You can’t even get in without a letter of invite and a Visa. Brazil. India. China, a major global power, due to it’s export rate. We can’t afford to do it. Literally and figuratively. We stand for Freedom and Liberty, but it’s impossible to enforce it everywhere without driving ourselves into the ground. Sorry, but it really isn’t. 17 TRILLION DOLLARS doesn’t go away in a blink of an eye. Now, don’t get me wrong, Egyptians are pretty awesome. So much history there. But as the Romans who took over fell, keeping up with declaring out against these things may very well make us have the same fate. Like Narcissus who died looking at his own reflection in the water, if we keep on starting into that puddle thinking we can fix every single conflict and injustice, we’ll die as well. Time will eventually crumble us. Yes, people are dying. Yes, children are being killed. But to help one nation, should we put ourselves in such a situation?

    • Guest

      Very articulately written Callie :) I agree with you and think you make a very strong point. By helping one nation we would be adding to our debt and possibly creating more enemies — not the best idea.

    • Maeve_K_Period2

      Some of your points seem very valid. I have to say though, I think that many countries look to the United States to make a stand for them as a global powerhouse. Financially, it’s true that we cannot involve ourselves in every civil war the occurs worldwide. Nicely done :)

    • Luke patton

      I agree Callie. We cant afford to go into Egypt with out making ourselves going further into debt. To most nations we stand as a force for Freedom and Liberty. But, war happens all the time. Even if we did decide to go into to Egypt we would be choosing a side and be giving them money, which would add to our debt. So, overall it is just a bad idea waiting to happen.

    • ClaireB_period2_BoydBence

      I agree. We do not need to get more in debt just because of a problem that Egypt is having. When getting involved with Egypt, or becoming allies with them, we would have to give them money or resources to help the resolve their issue.

      • Tayla_k_period4

        I agree with Callie because we do not need to waste anymore money on war, And getting Involved with Egypt might help us gain an enemy. “Two-thirds of the public says the new government installed by the Egyptian military is something in between a friend and an enemy to the US.” according to CNN.

      • CJ_B_Period2

        I agree with you Claire, because if we fail at solve their then we could lose lots of our money. In this article, it say’s we would have to become the allies, which will cost more money.

    • CJ_B_Period2

      I agree with you Callie, because US is in so much debt that we cannot afford to mess up our relationship with Egypt. Unless we want less exports from Egypt. Plus with we intervene with Egypt and mess it up then we won’t have any way to pay they back. We already in debt of 17 trillion dollars according to BBC News.

    • taylor shropshire

      That was deep. and yes i agree i think that we are trying to drag ourselves down a road that we don.t wanna go down.

    • Gian_S_Period2

      I agree, Callie. We depend on many imports from the Middle East. Not just imports, but we have many important allies there. What if they stopped sending us imports? Who knows what the United States would do next. The article states, America has too much debt to be intervening in Egypt. What if the United States could not afford to pay off 17 trillion dollars? As I said earlier, the government has already shut down. Even though the government isn’t shut down now, we still need to be thinking about how much we’re spending on foreign aid.

      • Gian_S_Period2

        Sorry, didn’t mean to post this twice. I needed to put the meme in and wasn’t able to. Gian_S_Period 2

    • Gian_S_Period2

      I agree, Callie. We depend on many imports from the Middle East. Not just imports, but we have many important allies there. What if they stopped sending us imports? Who knows what the United States would do next. The article states, America has too much debt to be intervening in Egypt. What if the United States could not afford to pay off 17 trillion dollars? As I said earlier, the government has already shut down. Even though the government isn’t shut down now, we still need to be thinking about how much we’re spending on foreign aid.

      I have also included a meme that I have made.

  • Luke patton

    I think that it isn’t our job to go into Egypt. Going into this would affect the U.S in ways that could hurt us for the long run. Our debt would be even greater and we could loose a friend. I say that we let Egypt figure this out on their own and see what happens. If it gets worse then we should go in. If it gets better we don’t do anything. Simple as that.

    • Maeve_K_Period2

      I also agree with you Luke. If things get worse, I could see some sort of intervention. For now, I think it’s best to stay out and let Egypt try to conduct a resolution on their own.

      • Taylor

        Taylor_C_period2
        I also agree with Luke, We already have a lot of problems with debt in America and I don’t think it would help us to spend even more money on someone else’s battle. The article mentions that the U.S. spending 1.3 billion dollars on military aid, and intervening in Egypt would add more to that number.

    • madison olson

      Madison_O_Period2
      I agree with you Luke. It it not our job to go in to Egypt and solve their conflicts. We could lose a good ally and become in debt. If things keep progressively get worse I think the US should voice their opinions on the matter but still not invade Egypt.

    • Dylan_L_period3

      I agree with you Luke 100%. Our debt would rise even higher than it is now. Not only that but in the article it says that we are apprehensive about going there because Egypt helps us to know what is happening in the middle east.

      • Lilly_C_Period3#

        Yes,I agree with what you both said about us going into debt,but we can ‘t just completely leave them alone.We should just come up with a compromise like helping the other troops with training or something. because it is obvious that Egypt is struggling and needs help but we can help them without putting out tones of money.

    • JoelR_Per 3_BoydBence

      Luke that was a good point because our debt (17 TRILLION) should be something we should be trying to lower. If we add more expenses than it can’t go down. If it gets really bad we can step in to help but if it doesn’t I think we should stay out of this and save some money.

    • David_N_2

      I couldn’t have said it better myself. Our debt is high enough and it sure isn’t going down. We cannot do anything but spectate on Egypt. We are not the ones to decide because we are the judges. We have to use our own knowledge to decide on whether we should or shouldn’t intervene. As for now, we can do nothing in this tangled mess of knots.

      • Christian H.

        Even if our debt is high showing our morals to other nations and helping Egypt will influence the surrounding countries and change their thoughts on what they can do and why they should do it.

        • David_N_2

          Yes, that is true, but what do you think would happened inside our own country? Yes, we should do what’s right, and yes, we should help others, but it would cause major disputes within our country. We must have congress approve of this helpful act, and even then we will have people who disprove of the act. When we do have majority consent, we will have to send our troops to go into Egypt thus risking their life. We are in no position to help even if we wanted to.

      • SydneyA_Per4_BoydBence

        I agree with you. This debt is way too high to intervene. We should be the judges like you said. W should just observe

    • CarlosR_Per3_BoydBence

      I don’t believe that the U.S should intervene with Egypt, but the way you’re stating it it almost seems that you want this country to passive about the issue. As a country we are very influential, and I think we can get involved in other ways. But I don’t think that we should passive and just let the violence continue for a long period.

      • Christian H.

        Even if our debt is high as you said our influence is high. If we intervene and allow our morals to be seen it can affect the decisions of the surrounding countries and how they act now and in the future.

        • Micah Loebs

          Micah_L_Period 2
          I agree, we should set an example for the rest of the world. Maybe everyone else is too scared to take the first step and stop them, and by funding them all we’re doing is supporting them. Obama may have shook his head at their actions, but he still is aiding their corrupted military. U.S. is one of the biggest countries in the world, and it’s extremely influential, We need to do something.

          • Kshitij_K_Period2

            I agree with that, and disagree. I agree America should do something to influence other to step in and help, but America is in no shape to be helping by intervening, even financially.

    • emily_p_2shuttle

      I see what you are saying, but you said “Going into this would affect the U.S in ways that could hurt us for the long run.’ If we didn’t intervene, then we would lose an ally. Wouldn’t that hurt us too?

      • Trevor Osterhout

        i dont agree because i think that we have enough on our plate and we don’t need to add this even thought we might lose and allay i think it be better to stay out of it

    • Jae Hun

      I think US should not intervene with Egypt because going in to Egypt will affect others. We could lose a lot of things like families or a friend. Furthermore, we should try to lower our debt and continuing will consistently increase our debt.

      • Alex P

        I agree with you Jae. Going into Egypt could affect more than it could help in the long run.

    • AlexM_Per3_BoydBence

      I completely agree with you. It’s best to just leave this up to Egypt. There is no need into going and contributing with Egypt unless we want an allie, but I’m sure we will gain more in the future.

    • Trinity_S_Period3

      I agree with you, but where is your text evidence? I can’t tell how the article had affected your opinion.

    • Devon D per#2_shuttle

      I agree with Luke we need to just wait it out and not push it any further. We would get in to even more debt . With the conflicts we are already facing I say that we don’t need more on our plate. We need to let them figure it out , they can do things on their own too.

    • Rachael P. 2nd BoydBence

      I agree with you that we shouldn’t get involved based on our debt and relationship with Egypt. I also agree that if it gets worse then we can find a way to help.

    • HunterE_Per 2_BoydBence

      I agree with you, Luke. Countries can’t expect America to just get up and go help them without a thought. It’s not because we don’t want to. But it is because we just can’t at the moment. These are very valid points that you make.

    • Christian H.

      Shuttle Prd.2

      But when you look at the fact of the people’s protests ending in beatings “The army and military police clear out Tahrir Square, rounding up
      liberal activists and taking them to the famed Egyptian Museum, where
      they torture them. Ramy Essam, a young singer who wrote protest songs in
      Tahrir Square and was later arrested by the security forces, said he
      was beaten with wooden sticks and iron bars, and tortured with
      electrical shocks.” Or the fact of the government going under large changes like the “Egypt begins to vote in parliamentary elections, a six-week process that
      results in an overwhelming victory for Islamist parties. In the lower
      house, the Muslim Brotherhood wins the majority of seats, with the
      ultraconservative Salafis taking another quarter, putting religious
      groups in control of the parliament. In the upper house, Islamists take
      nearly 90 percent of the seats.” or the fact that “The day before the presidential runoff election, the military, acting on
      a ruling by the Supreme Court, shuts down the parliament. It also
      awards itself sweeping new powers, including control over the national
      budget and the power to issue laws — effectively diluting the power of
      the president, which by this time appears likely to be Morsi, the Muslim
      Brotherhood candidate, whom the military opposes. A day later, Morsi
      wins the election” They need someone or something to come in assist. A third party is a decision that would greatly help their troubled country.

    • AshmeetS_Per3_BoydBence

      I think the same…..to that it is not America’s job to just go into Egypt, or any other country, and help them out. Our debt would be greater than it is now.

    • KaraP_Per2_BoydBence

      That is a great point Luke. i completely agree that we should stay out of Egypt and their problems. In the Article it stated that Obama said “However, he did not go as far as cutting the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.” but he also said “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.” I want to know why he thinks we can’t help but we are still funding them. I think we need to stop worrying about other peoples problems until we fix our own.

    • Andrea ortiz

      I agree with you Luke. I agree and think its the right decision to not get involved in Egypt and spend money on it. Its not that we don’t want to help them, Its just that we cant at the moment. “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.”

    • Petty_Period2_BoydBence

      I agree with you completely. We have no place to go into Egypt and try to fix it when we have enough problems of our own to deal with. We cant handle anything else! In the Article it stated that Obama said “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.” and Its a statement that seems to get looked past, even when it could be the key to solving this very debatable topic!

    • Lawsonzper3boydbence

      I agree it’s not are job but i still feel like we should help because its the right thing. We might even make want to be a democratic society.

    • Bella_P_Period3

      I disagree with you. Yes we are in debt but the reason we should go in is because they are our allies. Another thing, I don’t support your answer because you don’t have text evidence to prove it. We should go in to help and be there ally not just stand back and watch them suffer.

    • Alex P

      I completely agree with you Luke. Our nation’s first priority should to be protect ourselves. Although, one of our duties is to reach out other countries who need our help. If Egypt can figure it out on their own, we shouldn’t intervene.

      Alex P

    • MarcusO_Per4_BoydBence

      I think that we should keep things from getting worse in the first place. If things get worse and war comes around that could essentially be even more expensive then supporting them.

    • Nicholas_M_Period1

      How could it hurt the U.S in the long run? If we help them win we will form a strong bond with their future government. What if the French said to us “Lets just see what happens” instead of helping us with our revolution?

    • MaxP per3 boydbence

      I mostly agree with you, we shouldn’t get involved, but we should get involved by talking with there government, not by getting into a war. So we should intervene before anything else happens, but don’t start a war.

    • Brent_L_Per1

      I think that it could help us gain a closer friend rather than lose a friend. If we get involved and help them get on their feet I doubt they would look at us in a negative light.

    • Trevor Osterhout

      i agree with that and losing a friend is worth It in the situation we have enough with debt and other thing we don’t need anything else

    • Bburlison_Per3_BoydBence

      I agree losing a ally like egypt wont mean much to the us and it will just fix our spending problems

    • Michelle_S_Period3

      Luke, I agree with you about its better to loose an ally like Egypt then to risk affecting our economy in an even worse state then it already is. We should leave Egypt alone unless they really need help; then we should think about helping Egypt out.

    • CadenM_Per1_BoydBence

      I agree we need to involved situations like this when we need to or can we dont always have to jump in right away.

    • MadiT_Per3_BoydBence

      I agree. In the article Obama admits that we can’t determine the future of Egypt, so maybe it’s best if we just let them figure it out on their own.

      • Kshitij_K_Period2

        I agree with you, Obama should look at America’s future before it looks at Egypt’s future.

    • Jacob Gonzales

      I disagree with you, When the people of he untied stated and other countries are watching and letting this happen, It shows that either they don’t care or they think it is not there job to come in and help. yes, lots of money would be spent but the problem would have been solved and there would not have been conflicts.

    • SydneyA_Per4_BoydBence

      I defiantly agree. Like you said we are already in a huge amount of debt. We should just let Egypt figure it out on their own.

    • Kaylee Henderson

      I understand, we are in major debt and shouldn’t be focusing on other countries; then again don’t we want a better world? it all depends on our priorities right now. I think America in general needs to have a vote on it; “For the people, By the people.”.

  • Jacob M period3

    I don’t believe that it is the U.S. business over in Egypt. They have different morels than we do so if we go over and try to put in our government the way we want it. There is potential that we could upset them or set them up for failure. another thing is that I do not believe that it is our job to run around and police the world. Things like this have been happening for a while so I believe that we should just let it run it course.

    • Callie_H_Period2

      How do you define morals? They can be different from person to person, but just because of different morals, does that negate our own? I still stand by what I said, but would you clarify your reasoning?

      • Jacob M period3

        Well I think that there is a common believe in america that every one has to be like us. But this simply is not the case. The people over there are far different from what we are. They have different ways of looking at problems and fixing them and things like that so thats what I mean by morals.

  • ClaireB_period2_BoydBence

    In my opinion the US should not intervene in Egypt because as it says in the article, “ that conditions in Egypt had improved.” This means that they can fix their problems, but it may take some time. Another reason that the United States should not intervene with Egypt is because we are in so much dept., trillions of dollars in fact. If the United States gets involved, then dept. will become a bigger problem, and an issue like this is not something we need to get ourselves into. Egypt will eventually solve this problem without the help of the United States.

    • Shemar_D_2

      This is a great post because it points out how we are not in a good enough state to intervene and why we should keep out of Egypt’s business. They will end up fixing it in the long run it just depends on how long it will take. Egypt should realize what’s happen right now and how it makes the other nations see them.

  • Guest

    No, I don’t think that the United States should get involved with Egypt’s conflict. This
    could lead to much bloodshed and it may gain us enemies and more debt. The United States is a very delicate area right now, especially because of our 17 trillion dollar debt. We don’t need any more debt right now. According to CNN, even if we decide to help, we wont have any affect on the conflict there, because they just wont listen to what we have to say. Leaving Egypt to deal with it’s own problems is best, so they can solve it within their own country. This is better for everyone, according to CNN. Also, Two-thirds of the public says the new government installed by the Egyptian military is something in between a friend and an enemy to the U.S.

    • Jacob M period3

      I agree completely. Who made us the police of the middle east? It seems like every time something happens over there we are the ones that have to go over there and fix it. The only things that come out of it is more deaths and dept. for the U.S.

  • CJ_B_Period2

    In my opinion U.S. should not intervene with Egypt. American is a sensitive area
    right now because we are in a $17 trillion debt according to BBC News. Plus America
    is not the global power we used to be, which means Egypt might not listen to us
    even with we try to solve the conflict. If were to intervene with Egypt we
    could mess up our really good relationship with Egypt. Which means we might
    lose materials that Egypt export to us. For example, they give us cotton and if
    we don’t get cotton then we will have fewer clothes. In the article it say’s, “
    that conditions in Egypt had improved.” This means that they can fix their
    problems by the self.

    • Tayla_k_period4

      I agree with Cj, because if the US gets into another war this could add onto the debt we have. Also, since we get supplies from Egypt, this could stop the exports.

    • Taylor

      Taylor_C_period2
      I agree with you Cj, it would hurt America if we lost our connections with Egypt. I am also not completely sure it is our battle to fight, as Obama said, “America cannot determine the future of Egypt,”.

    • madison olson

      Madison_O_Period2

      I agree with you, intervening can be harmful to our economy. We are in so much debt and going to war where it isn’t necessary can just put America in more debt. We already spend so much money on the military, “$1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.”

    • taylor_w_2nd

      I agree with you and you also brink up some key points I hadn’t thought of. I like how you mentioned that the article says “…that conditions in Egypt had improved.” this does show that they can fix their own problems and that we need to mind our own business. We have too much debt and too many loved ones vulnerable to risk going to war and possibly not even making a difference. I believe we should not intervene with Egypt by any means.

    • Isabella_V_Period3

      I agree with you. We are in so much debt and we don’t have any extra money to go help Egypt. It’s pretty risky. We spend so much money on the army. We spend “…$1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.”

  • Tayla_k_period4

    In my opinion I don’t think that the United States should get involved with Egypt’s conflict. This could lead to much bloodshed and it may gain us enemies and more debt. The United States is a very delicate area right now, especially because of our 17 trillion dollar debt. We don’t need any more debt right now. According to CNN, even if we decide to help, we wont have any affect on the conflict there, because they just wont listen to what we have to say. Leaving Egypt to deal with it’s own problems is best, so they can solve it within their own country. This is better for everyone, according to CNN. Also, Two-thirds of the public says the new government installed by the Egyptian military is something in between a friend and an enemy to the U.S.

    • CJ_B_Period2

      I agree with you Tayla, because if US intervene with Egypt they might become enemies with us. Plus there with just be so much bloodshed like the war Egypt. That’s happening right now according to PBS news “Egypt is killing dozens of protesters, civilians and soldiers.”

      • Emily

        I agree to this statement.
        Like I’ve said before, if we get too involved in Egypt, then things for us will just get worse. While I agree with the saying put others before yourself, economically, we need to put ourselves first for this situation.

    • Shemar_D_2

      You bring up some great points, there are too many things that could go wrong if we intervene and how its going right now is actually working. They will solve thier own problems, they dont need our help because most likely our help wouldn’t do much. The debt that you pointed out that were in is also another reason why we shouldn’t go in, we are just not in a state to do so.

    • Gian_S_Period2

      I agree with your points, Tayla. The US should not get involved in the arising problems. We could make the situation worst just by intervening. As the article states, the United States is in heavy debt, and we can’t afford to spend anymore when the government has shut down. If we intervene, Egypt could eventually turn on the US and that would not turn out to be the best option. So, the best thing right now is to let Egypt to solve their conflicts.

    • Mary Beth D.

      Very well said, I completely agree with the fact that we don’t need any more debt and by us intervening we will just gain enemies. The very last sentence says, “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.” We aren’t in control of the no matter how much we want to be.

    • Guest

      You took the words right out of my mouth. The United States cannot intervene with such conflict because it will draw out problems within our own country. We cannot even send in financial support as president Obama does “…he did not go as far as cutting the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.” Even if we send in and speck of help, there will be conflict within out country. Our U.S. Citizens will protest about the decisions of the U.S. Government in which the government will have to resolve. All we can hope to do is to wait.

      • David_N_2

        The above post belongs to David_N_2. My apologies for not saying so.

    • ClaireB_period2_BoydBence

      You are 100% correct. We do not need to get involved with
      another country when we are in so much dept. If we do declare war on Egypt then
      we are risking our lives for a reason that the country could not decide on. Declaring
      war on Egypt would not be a good idea.

    • Dylan_L_period3

      We dont need to fight in a country that we have no business fighting in. Not to mention how much debt we are in at this moment tin time.

  • Shemar_D_2

    I don’t think that we should intervene with Egypt. The protests have been going on for over a year now and while we could potentially help in Egypt we don’t know if it would hold. Most likely the U.S trying to intervene would make us end on a bad note with Egypt and with the current world affairs right now and for the future we need as many middle-east relationships as we can get. The line “America cannot determine the future of Egypt” is perfect because it describes exactly what I’m trying to say, we could intervene but it would most likely end with everyone losing.

    • Callie_H_Period2

      Nicely put! This conflict may not only effect our relations with the Eygyptions, but surrounding countries as well. Almost all our oil comes from the Middle East. Cotton and other goods. Chinese products dominate our market. We really, really can’t afford too.

    • Alice_B_4

      I understand what you’re saying, but there’s also a chance we could help out Egypt. We’re a highly developed nation and know how a democratic form of government is supposed to work. They’re creating a new constitution which will infringe on the “rights of women, Christians and intellectuals”, the president is giving himself more power than anyone has a right to have, there are protests occurring frequently that result in “violent clashes with police”. Egypt also has something we need–oil. Once their government is put back together, we can strengthen our alliance with them and fuel our nation. As humanitarians and allies to Egypt, it’s our duty to set them straight.

    • Gian_S_Period2

      I agree with the points you brought up. If we help out Egypt, who knows what would happen. It could either turn out to be a good thing, or it could make the problem worse. We could ruin relationships with our other allies by intervening. I think it is best to let Egypt figure out their own problems. We already have major problems with debt and by going into Egypt, America’s debt will increase drastically.

    • Mary Beth D.

      Mary_Beth_D_period3
      I agree with you Shemar. There isn’t any good that could come out of this other than satisfaction, but is that enough to risk when the other outcomes are all negative? We just need to let Egypt deal with their own business and we can deal with ours. We are in a lot of debt right now and by us intervening we could make it much worse.

    • Emily

      I completely agree with this statement.
      America will need as many Middle Eastern relationships as possible because we will get into other wars in the future, and if things end wrongly in egypt, then thats one less allie for us.

    • Mark_L_Period3

      Shemar, I completely agree with you. Waiting longer will most likely be better than intervening right now. If the government and people in Egypt do figure things out, it’ll be better because they have the best perspective of things there.

  • Taylor

    Taylor_C_period2

    I personally think that it is important for America to have an opinion and attempt to resolve things peacefully, but I don’t think it is necessary for us to try and make this our fight. The conflict going on in Egypt needs to be solved quickly, but it’s their civil war and not necessarily in America’s best interests to intervene. As said in the article, “the United States has been hesitant to intervene, as it has long relied on Egypt as a strategic Middle East ally in the middle of a volatile region.” If we intervene we could risk losing Egypt as a valuable ally in the future. I think there is a difference between helping out other countries in need and unnecessary military involvement.

    • madison olson

      Madison_O_Period2

      I agree, it is in America’s best interest not to intervene with the conflicts in Egypt. It is not necessary for America to send troops to Egypt. We would probably go even more in debt if we did. We would probably lose a valuable ally as well. As said in the article, “$1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.”

  • Alex_Bence_Boyd

    Alex_W._Preriod 2

    Honestly, I don’t care what the United States does to aid or worsen the conflict as long as they do it! How hard is it to either stop interfering with the conflicts in Egypt or to intervene and solve the problem. Just do something with the conflict and do it NOW! Then, we can go back to our lives.

    • Alice_B_4

      It’s actually very difficult to intervene in Egypt as it has “erupted in protest”, their president has “granted himself additional powers”, and besides that, we are in $17 trillion of debt and it’s difficult even for nations who aren’t in debt to just go to war. Withdrawing troops also takes time.

    • madison olson

      Madison_O_Period2
      I agree we need to come to a consensus. But, we need to respect what our country as well as the others are doing. If the government doesn’t think through what the are going to do or not do then it can have bad consequences later on.

  • Randall

    We as America need to back off of the want to be war because we do not have money to support a war right now, the debt we are in is not alright

    • David_N_2

      Indeed. America is roughly 14 trillion dollars i debt. We cannot risk going into more debt because of a war that does not include us. Even as the Unite States provides military aid every year as it says right here: “…the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.”, is rather ridiculous. I say the United States should stay out of this.

    • Dylan_L_period3

      I agree with you randall. We are in serious debt right now and shouldnt be in war.

  • Miguel A

    Miguel_A_Period2

    America. Land of the free and home of the brave. Currently, we are a state of unrest with controversies spiraling around NSA spying and international issues. We have problems to fix. Intervening in a situation which does not directly affect our people can be either a huge waste of money and lives or a huge benefit to our economy or political stance. It’s a huge risk. But it’s best if we stay out of it. We have problems. They have problems. Asking for aid in a time when we can fix it but choose not to isn’t the best way to fix anything. There can be repercussions. Despite not agreeing in how they are acting, “In a statement in August, Obama said the he “strongly condemns the steps
    that have been taken” by the government and security forces”, we must discontinue any hope that we can help Egypt.

    • taylor_w_2nd

      I agree completely. A great country does not stay a great country if it doesn’t take care of itself, just like the rich doesn’t stay rich by blowing money. In my opinion, we need to focus our attention on our issues and commitments we already have and reconize.

      • Kyle_C_3

        I agree with you Taylor and Miguel that countries don’t just become great and good by doing nothing they had to want it enough to fight for it and work at it.

  • Micah Loebs

    Micah_L_2

    Personally, I think the U.S.A. should intervene with Egypt. Morsi is gaining too much power, and he needs to be stopped. They tried to run a democratic government, but failed after only 2 years, they need help leading a country. I know the U.S. doesn’t want to intervene because they’re an ally in a vital area, but helping innocent people in a large country live in peace is more important in my opinion. We can’t idly sit by just shaking our heads at their actions, we need to step in, and we need to do it soon.

    • Alex_Bence_Boyd

      Alex_W_2

      I kind of agree with you. If we do help Egypt, we can help make a new government in Egypt that lasts a long time. Also, if we help make a new government they might be so grateful, they may give us more product at less cost.

    • Alice_B_4

      I agree with you. Egypt doesn’t know how to maintain a democratic form of government and the US does. It’s our responsibility as a highly developed nation to help one that’s less developed. As an ally to Egypt, we need to help them in any way we can to protect Egypt’s innocent. If that means military intervention, so be it.

    • madison olson

      I partially agree with you. I agree with the moral aspects, how we would be helping many innocent people and we can’t do absolutely nothing. But, I do not agree with us intervening. I think that we could voice our opinions but we should not send troops. It would cause a lot of debt for the US and we could possibly lose a valuable ally.

    • ClaireB_period2_BoydBence

      I disagree. Even though our country has a well-run
      government we are in so much dept. that we cannot invade another country. If we
      do invade Egypt then we will loose more money and be more in dept. Also if the
      US helps Egypt and we become allies with them then we will have to provide
      things, and then we will get in more dept. In my opinion the US should not go
      to war with Egypt because of these reasons.

      • Luke_B_Period2

        I agree with you Claire the US can’t afford to use any more money on an attempt to get Egypt back in order and that we (the US) should just let Egypt to their own devices.

      • taylor shropshire

        I feel the same according to the last paragraph “Throughout the conflict, the United States has been hesitant to intervene, as it has long relied on Egypt as a strategic Middle East ally in the middle of a volatile region. In a statement in August, Obama said the he “strongly condemns the steps that have been taken” by the government and security forces, and cancelled a biannual joint military exercise with Egypt that was scheduled for September. However, he did not go as far as cutting the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.” we cant afford this. especially if it doesn’t effect us.

    • taylor_w_2nd

      I agree more with Claire’s comment, in my opinion, we should not intervene. To be harshly frank, Egypt is not our ally and in turn, not our problem. I understand we stand for bigger things and have a well run system, but at this point we need to take care of ourselves, and we can not afford more un-needed debt at this point.

    • emily_p_2shuttle

      I agree with you 100%. If we don’t intervene, then Egypt will not be able to lead their country and probably wont be able to help us.

      • Kyle_C_3

        Micah I agree with you because I think they just need to help with the government so they can get right back on there way to becoming a democracy.

    • Mark_L_Period3

      I agree with you when it comes to helping them but not right now. It’s best to wait a little longer since helping them may lead to things getting worse overtime. Maybe soon, they’ll figure out what needs to be done so that they don’t need to rebel in the future.

    • Jacob M period3

      I respectfully disagree. If the U.S. gets involved there is know way of tell how long we are going to be there or if we will be able to stabilize the region. Plus to do these things takes time money and resources stuff the U.S. dose not have at this moment.

    • Daniel K Period_2 Shuttle

      I completely agree with you. Like you said, helping a large country live is peace is more important. I really think that others didn’t just wait and watch us die out.

  • Christian H.

    Shuttle period.2

    Looking at the United States Successful military intervention in the past, like in 2011 when Osama Bin Ladin was finally found. “When he announced that Osama bin Laden had been killed by a Navy Seal team in Pakistan, President Barack Obama said, “Justice has been done.” You can see that the U.S. is successful in their operations and that they can make the right decision. In my opinion they should take the action and intervene. The U.S. should intervene physically but also diplomatically. Keeping the peace in Egypt but also being a un-biased 3rd party to solve governmental issues. “2013 August – Hundreds are killed as security forces
    storm protest camps in Cairo set up by supporters of Mr.Morsi. The
    Muslim Brotherhood says the dead overall number 2,200. State of
    emergency declared and curfews imposed.”Egypts government is going through constant changes like President Morsi and many other president placements and changes through the last 10 years.The amount of conflict between Morsi and Marbarak, The Muslim Brotherhood and Islamist parties wreaks havoc on the people voting, constitution , and way of life.
    “2012 November – Bishop Tawadros is chosen as the new pope of Egypt’s Coptic Christians.
    President Morsi issues a decree stripping the judiciary of
    the right to challenge his decisions, but rescinds it in the face of
    popular protests.
    2012 December – Islamist-dominated
    constituent assembly approves draft constitution that boosts the role of
    Islam and restricts freedom of speech and assembly. Public approve it
    in a referendum, prompting extensive protest by secular opposition
    leaders, Christians and women’s groups” These political fights create tension between the nation’s government and people. So having the U.S. go into Egypt and keep the peace would calm the people down and allow diplomatic influence and negotiations do be done easier and create a situation the people can be happy with.

    • Bella_P_Period3

      I fully agree with you, I like how you brought up our success with Osama Bin Ladin. I do agree that President Morsi issues a decree. Everyone thinks that if we go in we will be making a bigger problem but I like how you pointed out that we are trying to keep the peace in Egypt.

  • madison olson

    Madison_O_Period2

    In my opinion, the US should not intervene in what seems to be a civil war in Egypt. I believe this because it is not our place to settle the inter conflicts that are occurring in Egypt. If we were to intervene, it may ruin the relationship that the US and Egypt have. As said in the article, “Throughout the conflict, the United States has been hesitant to intervene, as it has long relied on Egypt as a strategic Middle East ally in the middle of a volatile region. In a statement in August, Obama said the he “strongly condemns the steps that have been taken” by the government and security forces, and cancelled a biannual joint military exercise with Egypt that was scheduled for September.”
    I agree with what the United States is doing as of now. It is best for our country not to intrude and try to fix what is not our issue; “America cannot determine the future of Egypt,” he said.”

    • Taylor

      I agree with you Madison. I think that we should do what we can to peacefully help the conflict, but financially we cant afford to fully involve ourselves in another war. As said in the article ,”Obama said the he ‘strongly condemns the steps that have been taken’ by the government and security forces”.

    • taylor shropshire

      i agree with madison 100 % i feel the same way. we need to stay out of it because its not for us to deal with.

  • Dylan_L_period3

    I believe that the United States have no business in Egypt. Going into Egypt is no better than going into Iraq or Afghanistan. It will just be more soldiers getting killed and risking their lives for a country that is all the way across the Atlantic. “Throughout the conflict, the United States has been hesitant to intervene, as it has long relied on Egypt as a strategic Middle East ally in the middle of a volatile region.” This is true but still doesn’t mean that we need to go help. We can find new allies.

    • Luke patton

      Dylan I agree with you somewhat. Yes, Egypt should figure it out, but they are our eyes and ears in the Middle East. Losing them as an allie would hurt us. We need them as our allie but we should also let them handle it on their own. Get what I’m saying right?

      • Kyle_C_3

        But Dylan the Reason we are going in is to help them sort out everything not to like take control or anything like than we just want to help as the United States. Think of it as help instead of taking over or destroying

  • Alice_B_4

    My video on what the US should regarding the conflict in Egypt. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHkatGtLI9U

    • Lilly_C_Period3#

      I agree with some of the things you said but i don’t believe that it’s our responsibility to interfere with Egypt’s conflicts because we are putting out money,troops and going even deeper into debt.We need to just provide them with the knowledge and training needed to fight for themselves.

      • Alice_B_4

        That really isn’t a viable option in my eyes. Egypt is in a state of turmoil, and wouldn’t listen if the United Nations or perhaps even President Obama tried to sit them down and have a civilized conversation. Morsi is power-hungry and the best way to get it through their head would be to show them that we mean business.

    • CarlosR_Per3_BoydBence

      Some of the points you made were very valid, but when you said that some things “weren’t right” kind of threw me off. Because when you’re trying to explain what’s “right” and what’s “wrong” in a political discussion you need to take it from both perspectives. In Egypt, there is a large number of Muslims and in their culture (depending on what muslim sect you’re a part of) women are restricted (I believe in woman’s rights just to make it clear) but to them, it may seem “right”

      • Alice_B_4

        I feel that some things can just be agreed upon that are morally correct or incorrect–I should have been more specific with that in my video. Using religion as an excuse for hate isn’t a valid reason for doing harmful things, and if Islam truly preaches that women are lesser than men then that’s only another issue that needs to resolved, although not necessarily by the US.

  • Luke_B_Period2

    My stance on this is that the US does not need to be interfering in Egypt and that we (the US) need to not worry about Egypt and let them deal with their own problems. If this problem keeps coming up then I think the US should look into it, but not until then because we (the US) have our own problems right now. Go to this link to see a little meme I made on the subject. http://goo.gl/MUenwd

  • taylor shropshire

    In my opinion the us should stay out of it. we need to worry about ourselves (the US) and don’t need to be sucked in to something we don’t need to worry about. if it starts effecting us (the US) the thats when we should get involved but for all we know it can be solved and be handled without us getting involved. whats going on with Egypt is their problem and we are fine where we are

    • Luke_B_Period2

      I agree that the US should stay out of the way unless Egypt’s problem. Also that is Egypt’s problem starts affecting the US that we need to start thinking about what needs to be done.

      • taylor shropshire

        Exactly!

    • Mary Beth D.

      Mary_Beth_D_period3
      I completely agree with what you said. Once it starts affecting us, THAT’S when we should start getting involved. That is a great point that I hadn’t thought of.

      Because we can’t control the future of Egypt, we should just leave them to deal with their problems on their own. It’s only going to cause more trouble.

  • Mary Beth D.

    Mary_Beth_d_Period3

    In my opinion, we should stay out of Egypt. Not only is it such a sensitive area to be in at this time, but we should also keep in mind that the United States is in a lot of debt. BBC News says that it’s $17 trillion. We need to let Egypt deal with their own problems. That shouldn’t be the U.S.’s business at all. “Throughout the conflict, the United States has been hesitant to intervene, as it has long relied on Egypt as a strategic Middle East ally in the middle of a volatile region.” This quote from the article talks about the U.S. “hesitating” to intervene. If you have to hesitate then you probably shouldn’t do it. Yes, we may have relied on Egypt as they were our Allies but that doesn’t mean we should intervene.

    • JoelR_Per 3_BoydBence

      I think our primary focus would be to lower or debt and going to war won’t do much. It’s time for our soldiers to take a break from all of this fighting. Instead of fighting we could provide financial aid. This way were helping but were not spending too much.

    • Miguel_A_Period2

      I agree with your opinion. The US wasn’t made to meddle with those who are across the pond. We are our own nation with our own problems. Blood disputes shouldn’t be aided by us. “Since then, Egypt has been in a perpetual state of unrest, replete with
      bloody protests, assassination attempts and the release of former
      President Hosni Mubarak from prison, a major slap in the face to
      millions of protestors who fought, back in 2011, for him to be brought
      to justice.” It’s crazy over there. Don’t let crazy in here, too.

  • JoelR_Per 3_BoydBence

    This article states many good points, but in
    my opinion I would not support intervention in such matters. One reason not to
    intervene with this matter is because U.S. Already has a massive debt of more
    than 17 TRILLION!!! That’s a lot and we continue to add to that everyday. We
    can’t be the world’s police and help everybody because if we do our debt would
    go way too high. We need to focus on getting it lower. Now if this fire in
    Egypt gets to strong U.S would probably need to be the water that puts it out,
    but that’s if it goes really far. Now of course lots of people are getting
    killed but we can’t risk going there and spending tons of money, but the U.S
    plays a key role in this civil war. The United
    States now faces a policy dilemma – how to promote democracy while not
    alienating an Arab ally which has a peace treaty with Israel and controls the
    strategic Suez Canal. There’s another problem though as we delay our decision.
    Egypt is now looking for other aids, and Russia is an option. We would like to
    hold our relationship with Egypt, so we have to act fast. My solution would be
    not to go to war, but to continue providing financial aid to Egypt. This way we
    aren’t totally out of the picture and Egypt can continue to come to us for aid.
    This in my mind would be the best approach to this event.

    Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/16/us-egypt-usa-idUSBRE99F07220131016

    • Jacob_F_Per4

      I agree that we should solve our own problems before interfering with others’, but don’t think that we should try and “promote democracy”. While it may work for use it won’t work for everybody.

      • Jacob Gonzales

        I agree with you %100 Adding more debt to the us is not going to help anyone at all. So by adding more debt it just makes things worse then they already are.

    • Trevor Osterhout

      i couldn’t agree with you more the debt is a problem of our own that we need to fix before we fix others problem we would be hurting our self by stepping in

    • Riley_R_Period1

      You provide good points and I don’t think we should intervene with Egypt

  • JoelR_Per 3_BoydBence

    This article states many good points, but in
    my opinion I would not support intervention in such matters. One reason not to
    intervene with this matter is because U.S. Already has a massive debt of more
    than 17 TRILLION!!! That’s a lot and we continue to add to that everyday. We
    can’t be the world’s police and help everybody because if we do our debt would
    go way too high. We need to focus on getting it lower. Now if this fire in
    Egypt gets to strong U.S would probably need to be the water that puts it out,
    but that’s if it goes really far. Now of course lots of people are getting
    killed but we can’t risk going there and spending tons of money, but the U.S
    plays a key role in this civil war. The United
    States now faces a policy dilemma – how to promote democracy while not
    alienating an Arab ally which has a peace treaty with Israel and controls the
    strategic Suez Canal. There’s another problem though as we delay our decision.
    Egypt is now looking for other aids, and Russia is an option. We would like to
    hold our relationship with Egypt, so we have to act fast. My solution would be
    not to go to war, but to continue providing financial aid to Egypt. This way we
    aren’t totally out of the picture and Egypt can continue to come to us for aid.
    This in my mind would be the best approach to this event.

    Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/10/16/us-egypt-usa-idUSBRE99F07220131016
    Meme: http://diylol.com/meme-generator/creepy-willy-wonka/memes/oh-your-generation-got-us-15-trillion-in-debt-yes-please-tell-me-more-about-your-political-wisdom

    • CarlosR_Per3_BoydBence

      I agree with your statement and I really connected with what you said about the U.S being the world police. As a nation, we are very influential, but that doesn’t mean we should go around getting involved with things we don’t really need to. It’s almost like the U.S. is that one annoying friend, everyone has, who is always trying to get into your business.

      • EmilyS_Period2

        My thoughts exatcly. The U.S. tries to control all the other counties and gets involved in what they do. When in reality we need economic help, considering we are in debt (17 Trillion dollars).

    • Brittney_D_Period3

      I agree with you. I think it is a good idea to continue to give financial aid, so that we can still have Egypt as an ally. “He did not go as far as cutting the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.”

      • Alex_Bence_Boyd

        Alex_W._Period 2

        Really, we shouldn’t cut the military budget, schools, and the middle class. We should cut the congress mens’ paychecks. Those guys get all the good stuff. Not only do they get the good check from the government, most have jobs outside the government. They have jobs like lawyers; lawyers make a lot of cash per case if they win not mentioning frivolous lawsuits.

    • Jacob_W_Period3

      I agree with you. America should help them finically and aid them but not a full war. America Is getting itself into the wrong solution by going to war. It seems America decides brute force over negotiation. If This problem is to be solved then we all need to get our priorities straight and help each other. Not fighting our brothers in arms.

    • AlexM_Per3_BoydBence

      I agree with you but not the part about giving them financial aid, espicially since we are in so much debt. I think we should just stay to ourselves. Yes, it would be good to have Egypt as an ally but is it worth it to put America in so much debt? This is going to hurt our economy.

    • Duncan Skiles

      Duncan_S_period 3

      I agree with you Joel. The USA should increase the national debt as little as they can. The USA should continue to provide financial aid to Egypt so they will continue to be the USA’s friend.

    • AshmeetS_Per3_BoydBence

      I agree with you on this because we have do something about the money we are losing and counting the days here, so I think that would really help, and I am really against the intervention. Also I like when you said that we are not the world’s police.

    • Andrea ortiz

      I agree with you Joel, We are already in debt and we shouldn’t spend more money to add more to our debt. But I also agree that we should still provide financial aid to Egypt but not go to war.

    • Trent_H_Period3

      I agree completely, If we fix our economy we might be able to help but for right now we can’t do anything. We can still offer the aid but not 1.3 billon.

    • Micah Loebs

      Micah_L_Period 2
      You say we shouldn’t stop them, but you support continuing to pay. If we wait to put out the fire when it gets big, it could cost the U.S. even more money, any paying them only helps them get stronger. I personally don’t know if we should intervene or not, but if we cut their funding we can not only save our money and help our debt problem, but stop them from gaining too much power. Just a thought.

      • JoelR_Per 3_BoydBence

        Yes you do make a good point. If we wait then we will have to spend more money to get it back under control, but I still think we should give some financial aid to them, because they’re our ally. If you have any confusion also refer to the source I put I got some of my information from there. It has a lot of good points in the U.S/Egypt relationship.

        • Nicholas_M_Period1

          I don’t understand you say we shouldn’t spend money helping them out but we can give them 1.3 billion?

          • Bburlison_Per3_BoydBence

            I agree as well if we fix our economy we could help but for now it would just be spending money we dont have

          • Melody Murff

            I don’t think we should help because it’s not our problem. If we help them, then we are helping them kill each other. We don’t want to support the killing of our brothers. If we send our soldiers, then we are supporting war and the killing of each other. Also, we should keep our money because we are debt and that is a no no. War is bad and we should not support it.

          • MadiT_Per3_BoydBence

            I disagree. Why yes, war is bad, it is also reality. World Peace is what everybody wants to wish for, but its not realistic, and it won’t happen just because we back out. I’m not saying that I 100% think we should send troops. I’m just saying that I would encourage you to be a little less naive when it comes to the topic of war. You can just expect us to not ever send troops because “war is bad.” Its just not the way the world works, unfortunately.

          • Julie_B_2_BenceBoyd

            The person your responding to, “MadiT”, I think their trieing to say that they don’t want world peace because what you said that it’s unrealistic but war and violency isn’t the only way to solve this problem with Egypt. Well, thats what I think at least. That there are other ways to solve the problem at hand, the U.S. could try to help Egypt sovle THEIR problem through politics instead of bloodshed and violancy.

          • MadiT_Per3_BoydBence

            I agree that violence isn’t the only answer, but I think you misinterpreted my comment. What I was responding to was her statement “War is bad and we should not support it”. Look at this and then re-read my comment, then you should understand what I was saying.

          • Riley_R_Period1

            I like what you’re saying, but I don’t think we should get involved

          • BarrettC_per3_BoydBence

            I agree with Riley, we shouldn’t get involved, but honestly we shouldn’t use our military to help them as well.

          • Julie_B_2_BenceBoyd

            I totally agree with Nicholas. We are 17 trillion dollars in dept and still Obama wants to basiclly give them 1.3 billion dollars to our military to help them! Sometimes I don’t really know whats going through Obama’s head. I think using the military is a really bad idea as is and wasting money on OUR militray to help Egypt solve there problems is juts…that doesn’t really sound that lodgical.

      • Bburlison_Per3_BoydBence

        I agree with you micah because the us is in massive amounts of debt and aiding a country with money we dont have would just make things a lot worse.

      • Melody Murff

        I agree with what you say because if we give our financial support then we will be in more debt. It is true that we shouldn’t support their war with our money. If we stop sending money, then we will slow down the war progress. I don’t think we should keep funding them at all.

      • BarrettC_per3_BoydBence

        I extremely agree, we need to come to a final decision. If this keeps up then we will just be in even more debt.

      • MadiT_Per3_BoydBence

        This is a very good point. The longer we wait and the worse we let it get, the more money it will end up costing us. I think we need to make a decision, and make it now.

      • Jacob Gonzales

        I completely agree with you,Your concern is with money and how much could actually be spent. Money could play a major role in this situation, Not having enough could provide less help nor will is make an improvement.

      • Kaylee Henderson

        I fully agree. Right now for our country money is a big deal and spending money is an even bigger deal. We should defiantly help soon, if at all. They forced their president out, and are now in a state of no control, or over control and we need to help lead them in a direction thats right.

    • Lawsonzper3boydbence

      I do not agree with you we don’t have to spend more money to go help we already have an army right now they are stationed in their barracks not doing.

      • JoelR_Per 3_BoydBence

        Yes but we will have to pay for ammunition and transportation.

        • Lawsonzper3boydbence

          They don’t have to pay for ammunition that they already have. Also it cost less to make a bullet and have it go to are army then to make a grain of rice. And for transpiration it cost more to move them home from the mountains then it does to fly them to egypt and then home

      • MarcusO_Per4_BoydBence

        We would still have to pay for transport, ammunition, food, supplies and lives of american soldiers. We as American people have been involved with enough conflicts and shouldn’t get in to any other.

      • Jacob_F_Per4

        While we do already have military stationed in the Middle East we would still be paying for all of the expenses of transporting them, feeding them, giving them ammo, and a lot of other things.

    • MaxP per3 boydbence

      I agree with you, only if the tension builds then we should intervene, that is worst case scenario.

    • Riley_R_Period1

      You provided a lot of good points

    • Michelle_S_Period3

      JoelR_Per3_BoydBence I agree with what you said about focusing on getting our debt down instead of going to help out and provide them money, “$1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid”. I also agree with you when you said that we should only help a little bit if the fire gets to big in Egypt then the U.S. should be the water that puts it out.

    • CadenM_Per1_BoydBence

      JoelR_Per3_boydBence I agree we cant be everywhere and help everyone with the amount of debt we are in we just can’t afford more debt on our shoulders.

    • BarrettC_per3_BoydBence

      I agree, we are massively in debt and we just can afford to help Egypt right now. I also agree that if Egypt does become a big fire, then we need to help them to put it out

    • MadiT_Per3_BoydBence

      I completely agree, I think that we can’t risk loosing them as our ally, and that this way we could make a compromise of some sorts. The only thing I would change is that because we are in so much debt, maybe the amount of money we are giving them should be reduced.

    • SydneyA_Per4_BoydBence

      I completely agree with you. We are already in a huge debt and its still going up. Getting involved with this situation would not be a good idea

    • Julie_B_2_BenceBoyd

      This meme represents how Obama is doing really nothing about our huge dept and still wanting to got to war with Egypt AND Syria!!! I think Obama is just so funny!!

  • David_N_2

    Intervention would only cause trouble for both Egypt and America. Why should we involve ourselves into something that does not include us in any which way? “America cannot determine the future of Egypt’…-” is a quote Obama said and is very much true. We cannot determine Egypt’s future; only Egypt can do that. The conflicts Egypt is facing needs to be resolved within that country and only within that country.
    There are many reason why the United States should not get involved. A reason we cannot step in is because of our financial debt: 14-16 trillion dollars. If we step in we will have to go to a “war” with Egypt. Going to war like that will raise our debt ceiling to who knows how much? Giving $1.3 billion dollars for military support doesn’t help as it says “…he did not go as far as cutting the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.” Another reason is self conflict. If we want to help out Egypt, then we must first get the approval of congress. Even then we will have protesters in the country who disprove of the act. America should think clearly about the effects of their actions.
    Helping others is great, but their are consequences. Helping Egypt will not settle disputes, but create on for ourselves and Egypt. Intervention will raise our debt and self-conflict within our nation. All we can do is pray for Egypt’s future.

    • JoelR_Per 3_BoydBence

      I agree with you. We can’t add to the debt plus Egypt has to settle this by themselves. Also if we get involved it could cause more problems. Plus if we wanted to go to war than it would take awhile to get the approval of congress. Like you said helping is good but it can come with consequences. We add more debt everyday from general expenses we don’t want to add another expense.

    • Brittney_D_Period3

      I agree with you. Our biggest problem is debt in our country, and we should think about putting effort into that before we go into other countries to help, especially when we are already funding Egypt.

    • MaggieS_

      Thats a good point, We would be causing more harm then help not just in america but also in Egypt.

  • Lilly_C_Period3#

    This article says a lot of good things,but i would have to say that yes Egypt is struggling for example in the second paragraph of this article
    “The most recent conflict in Egypt is rooted in a 2011 popular uprising against the dictatorial regime of President Hosni Mubarak. Following nearly three weeks of protests centered in Cairo’s Tahrir Square, in which hundreds were killed by government forces, Mubarak in February handed over power to the military’s ruling body — known as the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces. He was imprisoned and the nation’s constitution and parliament were immediately disbanded.”
    But the United States shouldn’t have to be fighting Egypt’s war.Of course we want to help them because we know they need support,but instead of fighting their war and putting our troops and money out there for someone else’s cause.We could just help them by training their soldiers.We really cant afford the expense of going to war and putting U.S soldiers out there fighting for Egypt risking their life’s and our loved ones live’s for someone else’s problems doesn’t seem right to me.By now places all over the world should know by now what is right and wrong and who deserves certain rights.We can still help Egypt with training them and giving them support but i don’t think we should be getting too involved with this.

    • Brittney_D_Period3

      I agree with you Lilly. Other nations should know by now about what our unalienable rights should be. I also agree that we don’t need to intervene. Obama even said that we can’t change anything, so spending all that money and sending all those troops would be pointless. “‘America cannot determine the future of Egypt,’ he said.”

    • Christian H.

      Looking at the fact of this happening we should step in. The quickest way to solve this would be a third party to bring a compromise to all sides and keep the military from staging coups and power grabs at same time.

      “The day before the presidential runoff election, the military, acting on
      a ruling by the Supreme Court, shuts down the parliament. It also
      awards itself sweeping new powers, including control over the national
      budget and the power to issue laws — effectively diluting the power of
      the president, which by this time appears likely to be Morsi, the Muslim
      Brotherhood candidate, whom the military opposes. A day later, Morsi
      wins the election.”

  • CarlosR_Per3_BoydBence

    With the amount of money we are putting into the military you would expect us to intervene with Egypt, an ally of ours! But, I don’t believe that we should take military action, but maybe at least humanitarian action and influential action. We as a country have been a Democratic Republic for over 200 years, and can help influence the decision making in Egypt without military force. I believe that being passive isn’t an option and we should try to help with a large amount of effect with the smallest amount of cost. If things were to get a bit too hectic that the U.S feels a need to take action then I think that we should put the $1 Billion we put into military to good use. As the article states, “America cannot determine the future of Egypt,”.

    • Luke patton

      So, basically what you are saying is that if things get too far out of hand then we should go in. This is where you are wrong Carlos. If we go in we risk losing Egypt as an allie, plus we increase our national debt which is too high already. We would be sending in more soldiers when we are trying to pull them out of the Middle east for good. Overall, I think we should let Egypt handle it themselves.

      • Bella_P_Period3

        I agree and disagree with you Carlos. I agree that we should intervene and for these exact reasons, but I don’t think that Egypt will really understand where we are coming from due to their circumstances.

    • Miguel_A_Period2

      Humanitarian efforts aren’t the best way to solve this. Egypt isn’t solving this using humanitarian efforts. They are fighting in the streets shooting those who don’t see their way. They themselves say ” Morsi’s supporters declared the action a “military coup.” Hippies never solved Vietnam.

      • Guest

        So you are saying that the actions of beating and shooting their citizens is okay. That war is the path to success. To get rid of the people is the way to solve the problem. We should use humanitarian acts. That allows us to solve this with little bloodshed and allows to show our influence and our morals to the world.

        http://piccsy.com/post/view/2558535

    • Mark_L_Period3

      I agree with Carlos! Sending the military will cost money and isn’t necessary with all the violence already happening in Egypt. “Since then, Egypt has been in a perpetual state of unrest, replete with bloody protests” (Paragraph 12)

  • Bella_P_Period3

    The United States has every right to go into to Egypt. Everyone is saying that we shouldn’t because Egypt is our ally and while that is true but Morsi is gaining too much power. “By November, Morsi had granted himself additional powers.” If this keeps going who knows what may happen, but if the U.S. can go in and stop him we are saving innocent peoples lives. Obviously Egypt needs help leading a country “Soon thereafter, the new military leadership, led by Sisi, suspended the constitution, shut down several Islamist media outlets and issues hundreds of arrest warrants for Muslim Brotherhood officials. Morsi’s supporters declared the action a “military coup.”
    I advise us to go in.

    • emily_p_2shuttle

      I agree with you, if they can’t lead their own country, then we should be the ones to help them.

    • Duncan Skiles

      Duncan_S_period3

      I disagree with you Bella. The USA shouldn’t go to Egypt to try and help them because most of the groups in Egypt aren’t too fond of the USA and it certainly wouldn’t help our case if we just barged in there and busted some guts. The article says ” Egypt has been in a perpetual state of unrest, replete with bloody protests, assassination attempts and the release of former President Hosni Mubarak from prison.” So we should wait until the situation gets to the point where there’s no way for them to handle it themselves instead of going in now.

  • emily_p_2shuttle

    In my opinion. I think we SHOULD intervene. We have relied on Egypt as our ally for a while, and them not being able to decide on what should or shouldn’t happen is not good for us. We are paying $1.3 billion for them, so we should step in and solve this. What if we need help from them and they can’t do anything for us be cause of this conflict?

    • Claire S 2

      While that is true, we’re in a bad spot in our government already, and intervening could hurt us quite a bit. But, I agree that we should help our allies, especially if we may need them in the future.

    • Jasmin Ramirez

      I disagree with you emily. I think we shouldn’t intervene we are in great big debt. And if we do that will only not just cause money problems, but other countries will want to get involved.

  • Brittney_D_Period3

    I don’t think the U.S. should intervene. It’s not our business, and we shouldn’t spend money on it. We also don’t want any middle eastern countries against Egypt to turn against us. We don’t want this to become a bigger problem for us, especially with the threat of chemical warfare coming from the middle east. The article tells us that we are already sending them $1.3 billion dollars annually. The Egyptian government doesn’t need aid. “he did not go as far as cutting the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.” Obama also said that we cannot change the decisions and actions of the Egyptian Government. “‘America cannot determine the future of Egypt,’ he said.” I think it is obvious that the U.S. shouldn’t intervene with Egypt’s conflicts.

    • Claire S 2

      I agree! It’s not our business, even if Egypt is our ally, and we honestly don’t have much of a chance to sway the minds of the government. We’re also way too in debt for it to be a good idea for us to get involved.

    • Trinity_S_Period3

      I agree completely and give kudos to you on finding not just humanitarian reasons, but political reasons as well. And your quotes do a good job of helping to show your statement.

  • Andrea ortiz

    Given Egypt’s continued turmoil and bloodshed, is it the United States’ role to intervene in the crisis?

    • Callie_H_Period2

      True. There are issues besides the mountainous debt we have. We don’t want to have bombs pointed at us and fired.

    • Claire S 2

      “We don’t want to turn all those countries that are against Egypt to turn into us” I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here, but I agree with your statement on how we would be trying to solve a problem with more problems.

  • http://www.fuoye.edu.ng/ Sola Afolabi

    African union should intervene instead of US.

    • Miguel_A_Period2

      This is a much better idea than the US intervening since Egypt is a suspended member of the African Union and the reissuing of their government could allow them to rejoin the Union.

    • MaggieS_

      I agree that it is not the us’s job. Now i understand that in some cases there is a reason to go to war with people. Some things that need to be meet are like there has to be a reason politically or economically. Moral is the last thing that is put into account. But since there is no reason to go and the us is in such debt that it will hurt us more than help us.

  • Jasmine Masih

    We have to pick the option that is less “negative.” I do believe that it is a good idea to give financial aid so that we can still have Egypt as an Ally. Also we have problems in our country that we should also take under consideration. I feel that we should support Egypt for the sake of humanity, but respectively let them handle this situation. When the time is right and there is need to infer it will be clear, but at the moment decisions are murky. We need to know and be prepared for what ever we are getting ourselves into.

  • Emily

    I don’t think that America needs to get into whats happening in Egypt.
    We have enough situations of our own that I think we should handle before dealing with other countries.
    Also, along those same lines, we are trying to get involved with everyone. With whats going on in Syria, and us possibly going to war there, the last thing we need is to spend even more money on a situation in the middle east.
    Plus, the ending of this isn’t guaranteed pleasant. So that could be either one more enemy, or it could be one more allie. But thats not a risk we should be willing to take.

    • Trinity_S_Period3

      I agree. We shouldn’t risk our lives in a foreign country. But are there other factors in play, here? Maybe it’s not all about the safety of just our nation.

  • Alex M

    I think in Egypt’s current position, it isn’t our duty to intervene. If things get much worse, it may be better to intervene then, but the crisis just doesn’t seem like something we need to be involved in. We are still giving financial aid, and I think that this is as much as we need to be involved at the moment. We need to let Egypt figure this one out.

    • Luke_B_Period2

      Alex I completely agree with you on your stance on what the US should do with the possible civil war that might happen. I think that if Egypt’s problem gets too big I think we should interfere because we can’t afford to lose an ally right now. If we were to lose Egypt then bad things might happen.

    • Jacob_W_Period3

      I agree Alex. The U.S should still provide aid but they shouldn’t rush to war. They need to help the country and not fight it. Because Going to war will bring both countries in even higher debt and turmoil. America needs to go to the conference table and Use their words and not fists.

  • ariel kranz

    I think we shouldn’t put our noises into other counties business unless it’s going to harm or affect us in some dangerous way. We have domestic problems to fix, like whiny old men shutting down our government because they don’t get their way, and things like that.

  • Guest

    I don’t think that America needs to get into whats happening in Egypt.
    We have enough situations of our own that I think we should handle before dealing with other countries.
    Also, along those same lines, we are trying to get involved with everyone. With whats going on in Syria, and us possibly going to war there, the last thing we need is to spend even more money on a situation in the middle east.
    Plus, the ending of this isn’t guaranteed pleasant. So that could be either one more enemy, or it could be one more allie. But thats not a risk we should be willing to take.

  • Claire S 2

    I don’t think it is America’s job or role to step in and try and help Egypt. While it’s not very safe for the citizens, and we don’t condone their behavior, in Egypt, we shouldn’t step in and meddle in Egypt’s business. More conflicts on top on conflicts is not a very good idea, and will most likely only make the problem worse. We have to let them settle it themselves, instead of solving a problem by causing more problems.

    We also have lots of problems as well, and sending people over to help Egypt may only hurt us more than help them. However, “as it [The U.S] has long relied on Egypt as a strategic Middle East ally in the middle of a volatile region”, Egypt as one of our allies in this ever-changing, and hostile area is very important.

    I believe we should stay back and let the problem get sorted out, but if the U.S does decide to help Egypt, I won’t think bad of their decision, as Egypt is a very important ally to us.

    • Johanna Skarbek

      Johanna_S_Period2

      I agree with you in the first part where you say “More conflicts on top of conflicts.” This makes me think of the saying fighting fire with fire just adds to the flames. I think if we step in, we may potentially cause more problems for them and ourselves as well.

  • EmilyS_Period2

    I don’t think that America needs to get into whats happening in Egypt.
    We have enough situations of our own that I think we should handle before dealing with other countries.
    Also, along those same lines, we are trying to get involved with everyone. With whats going on in Syria, and us possibly going to war there, the last thing we need is to spend even more money on a situation in the middle east.
    Plus, the ending of this isn’t guaranteed pleasant. So that could be either one more enemy, or it could be one more allie. But thats not a risk we should be willing to take.

    “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.”

    • Jacob_W_Period3

      I agree but while America shouldn’t go to war they should help Egypt to get back on their feet instead of kicking them while their down. We need to talk to them and not intervene with them. In fact we need to help the country become one and not have one power over the other.

    • Rachael P. 2nd BoydBence

      I agree with you that we shouldn’t get involved with Egypt. We do have enough to handle and our debt is huge. I also agree that the ending could turn very bad. There is always that risk in a war, so I am with you when saying we shouldn’t take that risk.

    • Johanna Skarbek

      Johanna_S_Period2

      I think you make a good point with saying that our involvement won’t guarantee anything. If you think about it, if the worst happens and we can’t solve their problems, then where does that put us? In the middle of a was that isn’t ours. How much more debt would it cost us if we couldn’t fix things? And what would we gain by helping them in the first place?

  • Jacob_W_Period3

    Look at the picture

    • MaggieS_

      Maggies_per2_boydbence

      I agree jacob. We always seem to be getting into other peoples business. There are some times when i think it is appropriate to go and help country such as our allies. But in this case there is no good reason besides morally

  • Miguel_A_Period2

    Unpopular Opinion Puffin

  • Miguel_A_Period2

    Unpopular Opinion Puffin

    • EmilyS_Period2

      I never thought I would say this, but I agree with the penguin.
      The U.S has our own problems and going into another country to help them with their problems, is just going to make more for us.
      if we keep doing this, the stack is just going to get higher and higher and none of them will get solved. I think we need to stay out of other countries buisness and worry about our selves.

  • Guest

    Yup.

    • EmilyS_Period2

      I’m just going to answer his question.
      We are not in the position to help Egypt AND Syria. It’s one or the other, or neither.

  • Daniel K Period_2 Shuttle

    I think that we should help. If we were to help and we were successful, don’t you think that we could make more alliances. Maybe we could win because, Morsi has WAY too much power. Okay, Maybe we are in a HUGE debt, but when we needed help did others just wait and watch us fall? We shouldn’t do the same thing to them. Everyday the people of Egypt are struggling to survive, are we THAT stubborn to not even help it says “Over the next several months, the protests – some of which involved violent clashes with police – spread quickly”. Although, we shouldn’t be too much in a rush. If things were to become even more worse then YES we should help.

    • AlexM_Per3_BoydBence

      Im sorry to say but i disagree with you. Going to help Egypt will just put us more into debt and hurt the economy. We need to think about us before we go and help others. I know that seems selfish but its the truth. Sure, we can always use more alliances but just because we dont help with egypt doesn’t mean we are never going to have another alliance again.

      • Michael Fitzpatrick

        i agree we need to help ourselves before we can help others. Besides try helping your self before asking for help

    • AlexM_Per3_BoydBence

      Im sorry to say but i disagree with you. Going to help Egypt will just put us more into debt and hurt the economy. We need to think about us before we go and help others. I know that seems selfish but its the truth. Sure, we can always use more alliances but just because we dont help with egypt doesn’t mean we are never going to have another alliance again.

    • KaraP_Per2_BoydBence

      I see your point Daniel, however I don’t think it is a good enough reason to help Egypt. It would be great if we could but in reality it would just cause our own country more problems and we might not even fix anything with Egypt. We fought for our government so we should trust them and in the article it quoted Obama and he said “he ‘strongly condemns the steps that have been taken by the government’ and security forces, and cancelled a biannual joint military exercise with Egypt that was scheduled for September.” We should trust that they know more about this then us and they have thought through all the possible outcomes. We need to let Egypt solve their own problems and we need to focus on our own.

    • Isabella_V_Period3

      I agree and disagree with you, Daniel. I think we should go and help Egypt because so many people are being hurt by this, but I don’t think its right for the United States to have all of this pressure onto us debating whether to go help Egypt or not. There are so many other countries in the world. Why is everyone relying on the United States to do something?

      • Luke_A_Period3

        Thats a very good point, the U.S. should not have all of this pressure on them. And your question at the end is very valid and I wish I knew the answer

    • Trent_H_Period3

      You make a good point about how we just stand there but I agree/disagree. We do not have the money to do so. This is a big factor when thinking about going to war and our government must think about this everyday. We can’t afford going into war or we will go into a horrible plummet with our economy. But, We ca at least give them a document saying that we will try and help when we pick ourselves up and recover from this fall. We can’t guarantee help but we should say “Hey, we’ll do our best and try to help when we fix this.” (Something like that) To Re-state: We might be able to help once we fix our money issue but until then we just have to sit back and watch.

  • Michael Fitzpatrick

    i think the U.S. should stay out of Egypt for the time being then if things really start to get to intense thats when we should step in.

  • AlexM_Per3_BoydBence

    I think in Egypt’s current position, it isn’t our duty to intervene. If things get much worse, it may be better to intervene then, but the crisis just doesn’t seem like something we need to be involved in. We are still giving financial aid, and I think that this is as much as we need to be involved at the moment. We need to let Egypt figure this one out. In my opinion, I believe we shouldn’t get into the conflict. I know Egypt needs our help but we are not the only country out there. In keep in mind we are over 17 trillion dollars in debt, going over there would just add to that. We need to be focusing on how to pay off our debt and how to make U.s a better country instead of involving with Egypt. Even George washington said we shouldn’t get involved with other countries because it can hurt us in the long run and we didn’t listen. Now look where that has ended us up.

    • Alex_Bence_Boyd

      Alex_W_Period 2

      Well, Washington actually said we should not to get into permeant relationships with other countries. But I think if we are going to not get involved in the conflict we should get out of it altogether. I mean stop funding and everything.

      • Michael Fitzpatrick

        i agree we need to stop all together

  • Guest

    “…bloody protests, assassination attempts and the release of former President Hosni Mubarak from prison…”

  • Mark_L_Period3

    I don’t think it would be a good idea to intervene in Egypt, at least military wise. They’ve been trying to correct what’s wrong with the government for a while now. “The most recent conflict in Egypt is rooted in a 2011 popular uprising against the dictatorial regime of President Hosni Mubarak.” They’re still trying to figure out what’s best for the country. There is only a small chance that interfering will help. It’s best to let them figure out what is best for them. However, if things continue to move for the worst, maybe the U.S should intervene so that we don’t appear passive as a nation.

    • Duncan Skiles

      I agree with you Mark. The USA shouldn’t intervene in Egypt unless it gets to the point where they can’t fix it themselves because most of the groups in Egypt right now don’t like the USA and we have long relied on Egypt as an ally in a sinister region so it definitely wouldn’t help our case if we interfered. The article says “Throughout the conflict, the United States has been hesitant to intervene, as it has long relied on Egypt as a strategic Middle East ally in the middle of a volatile region.”

    • Jasmin Ramirez

      I totally agree with you mark. They are still trying to decide what kind of country they want be. We should let them figure this all out first then intervene like you said.

  • Trinity_S_Period3

    The United States should not have an affect with this war. It it too dangerous, because the protesters have been acting in violence, “…hundreds were killed by government forces…” and it’s hard to imagine that they would respond any better to foreign country help. The United States already has troops where we don’t want them and we’re having a hard enough time getting them out. If we add one more thing to the list of ways soldiers can die, they will lose blood, family members, and maybe even the war altogether. On top of that we have the huge debt to other countries that we owe, and using money for planes and gunfire won’t help that. It’s also really violent there, “…bloody protests, assassination attempts and the release of former President Hosni Mubarak from prison…” has taken over the country and would not be a good place for people who don’t belong there in the first place. The United States should NOT help fight the war in Egypt.

    • Rachael P. 2nd BoydBence

      I agree with you that we shouldn’t get involved and that it would be very dangerous for our troops. I also agree that we have to high of a debt at the moment.

  • AlexM_Per3_BoydBence

    I think in Egypt’s current position, it isn’t our duty to intervene. If things get much worse, it may be better to intervene then, but the crisis just doesn’t seem like something we need to be involved in. We are still giving financial aid, and I think that this is as much as we need to be involved at the moment. We need to let Egypt figure this one out. In my opinion, I believe we shouldn’t get into the conflict. I know Egypt needs our help but we are not the only country out there. In keep in mind we are over 17 trillion dollars in debt, going over there would just add to that. We need to be focusing on how to pay off our debt and how to make U.s a better country instead of involving with Egypt. Even George washington said we shouldn’t get involved with other countries because it can hurt us in the long run and we didn’t listen. Now look where that has ended us up.

    • Daniel K Period_2 Shuttle

      Okay, sure we are giving financial aid, but does it seem like anything is getting better? Citizens are trying their best to get what they want, so can’t we be an addition to that? 22 million people are signing petitions and I think that should tell us something

    • KaraP_Per2_BoydBence

      That is a great point Alex. I agree that we shouldn’t become any more involved with Egypt. However I don’t think that we should keep providing financial help to them. We need to fix our own problems before we go and try to help other countries. It stated in the article that Obama said the following statement:
      “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.” If this is true then why should we waste our money trying to help when we know it most likely wont and it will make our country go even further in debt.

  • Jacob Gonzales

    Yes, because What the president is doing to there people is wrong and immoral.”Morsi attempted to reclaim his presidential powers by ordering the top Mubarak-era military leadership to retire”…” Tamarod claimed to have gathered 22 million signatures on its petition”By getting these petitons, it shows how the people are not for what he is doing or how he is going to control it. So that is why i believe we should go to war with Egypt.

    • Guest

      I disagree with you jacob even though that their president is making the wrong choices that is their battle to fight not ours. By going in their we don`t know what to expect.

    • Devon D per#2_shuttle

      Jacob I disagree with you what the president is doing is bad but thats egypts battle to fight. Going in there wont make anything better for both of us. They will still be fighting and we will come out with debt needing more supplies to help them. We really just need to leave the be and see how it plays out.

    • HunterE_Per 2_BoydBence

      I agree with what you have to say about the president and his bad moves. But I do disagree with wanting to go in there and help them. Sure, what the president is doing is bad. I don’t disagree with you there AT ALL. But America just can’t go and help at the moment.

  • Devon D per#2

    Devon_ d_per#2
    I don`t think that it is our job to intrude on the conflicts going on in Egypt .It is our business to make sure that they don`t make the wrong decisions, but we don`t want to start anything that we are going to regret. Like it says in the article “America cannot determine the future of Egypt,” he said. We cannot determine the future in Egypt. Even if we intruded we can`t tell if they are going to declare war or if that we can fix anything. Even if we fixed it , it could all just go back to the way it was before. The U.S job isn`t to worry about whats going on in other countries. Yes, I know we want to help those people but we need to focus on whats happening in the U.S. We can always help Egypt but for right now we just need to step away and watch right now we have conflicts of our own too.

    • Ryan_R_2

      I agree with you. We can’t all ways help Egypt. We need to work on getting ourself out of debt before we can go and help others with their problems. We do need to help them, but we just can’t.

  • Rachael P. 2nd BoydBence

    I believe it is not America’s job to intervene. What is happening there is sad of course, but we can’t always go through our expense to fight along side them. Currently America is in a huge debt and it continues to grow everyday. We need to fix our economy for the sake of our people, and others. If we were to send weapons or even troops that would be creating a larger debt and cause our economy to fall even more than it already has. Plus going there we don’t know what to expect not just because of the lack of news but also because the country is very unstable right now and one wrong move and it could get worse than it already is. Plus, we have a good relationship with Egypt and getting involved could destroy that. If we were able to take down the leaders we would have more enemies than we already have. Then if we didn’t succeed the citizens would get angry at us and that would be the end of the relationship. I understand it is a tricky situation but until we can get a firm understanding of what needs to be done my answer is still no. Obama even said “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.” When you can’t determine what a country will be like in a few months that is a red flag. I believe they need to stand up as people of Egypt and work towards making the government the way they want it. Only them really know what its like and what they desire. These are the reasons I think we should not get involved. Watch this video about why we shouldn’t get involved http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcEal37Z32I

    • Devon D per#2_shuttle

      Rachael I completely agree with you its not our job to help them out when there in need . They can fight their own battles. Yes its sad to see all these civilians dyeing but thats something that they have to work out on their own. Plus if we were to go there we don’t know what to expect .If the will be against or with us.

      • Rachael P. 2nd BoydBence

        Very true about not knowing what to expect. There is always that risk when invading a country but, is different this time. Egypt hasn’t been in the lime light so we probably don’t know every event that has happened. If we missed something that was important it could cause a catastrophe.

    • HunterE_Per 2_BoydBence

      I agree with you vert much. Say America did go and help Egypt, completely ignoring our debt. If we screw something up and anger Egypt, no only have we made out debt lower, but we’ve made an enemy.

      • Rachael P. 2nd BoydBence

        Yes, it is very tricky business getting involved in ally’s business. If we were to do something wrong or something they don’t like, it could risk the relationship we have with them. Risking trade we share with them as well.

    • Maeve_K_Period2

      Rachael I really like the way you put your opinion into words — it was well thought out. Yes, i agree we cannot determine the future of Egypt. Nicely done :)

      • Rachael P. 2nd BoydBence

        Thank you and yes, when we can’t determine their future it is really 50/50. It could either go really bad or really good. We can’t interfere at this high of a risk in the state we are in.

    • Erin_B_Period2_BoydBence

      I agree that its not the US’s job to help Egypt. It is the right thing to do, but helping them out is going to increase our debt more.

      Helping may cause more problems that aren’t needed. Obama said “America cannot determine the future of Egypt,” which is true statement. Just because we help doesn’t mean there matters will go away or get any better; we cant expect what the outcome is going to be.

  • MaggieS_

    Maggies_per2_boydbence

    While there are defiantly moral reasons to and give aid. The goverment there are not doing a good job. ” some of which involved violent clashes with police” and other such things. But i do not believe that we should just go into war for just moral reasons. I think there has to be other factors into going in. These other factors have not been meet yet. these factors include economic reasons and political reasons. Another reason i don’t think we should is because of our debt. I know alot of people have mentioned this but i believe this. I have alittle video i mad with some statistics that i found it very interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8YWy0Pvm2U&feature=youtu.be

    “The Nation, which indulges towards another an habitual hatred, or an habitual fondness, is in some degree a slave. It is a slave to its animosity or to its affection, either of which is sufficient to lead it astray from its duty and its interest. … The Nation, prompted by ill-will and resentment, sometimes impels to war the Government, contrary to the best calculations of policy. The Government sometimes participates in the national propensity, and adopts through passion what reason would reject; at other times, it makes the animosity of the nation subservient to projects of hostility instigated by pride, ambition, and other sinister and pernicious motives. The peace often, sometimes perhaps the liberty, of Nations has been the victim.” ― George Washington, George Washington’s Farewell Address

  • HunterE_Per 2_BoydBence

    To be honest, I don’t truly know what the U.S. should do. Morally, I think we should help Egypt through this tough time. But economically, we can’t. The U.S. is in a pretty deep debt as it is, and helping them would only make things worse. So, to give you an answer, I don’t think we should help. Do I want us to? Of course. But the U.S. just can’t right now. I’m sure that if out debt wasn’t so big, we would help them. Another thing is that the world can’t rely on the U.S. to solve all of its problems. Who’s to say that if we step in, it will get better? Maybe it could just get worse. For both the U.S. and the country it’s aiding. In the article, it states that Obama says, “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.” That is true. We can’t. If we go and help Egypt, it could either get better, or could just get worse. Yes, Egypt is a good ally to America. But no matter how much we want to help them in this time of need, it just doesn’t seem possible. Egypt is just going to have to stick this one out and hope they can fix it themselves.

    • Alex_Bence_Boyd

      Alex_W._Period 2

      I agree, even if we want to help, we can’t. We are in debt and the whole government shutdown because people can’t agree on anything. The U.S. is a disaster right now, and we should try to fix it before we are able to aid other countries.

    • Isabella_V_Period3

      I totally agree with you, Hunter. I think that America should go help our ally Egypt, but we just don’t have the money for it. It would be great to help them because they need it badly, but if we were and something were to go wrong then the blame would be on us. We could probably lose them as an ally. Plus there are other allies that Egypt could call for help. Everyone shouldn’t depend on the U.S. to pick up the pieces for them.

    • Nicholas_M_Period1

      I agree with you to a degree. I do believe morally we should help but I disagree with you that we don’t have enough money to do so. We have a GDP of 3 trillion dollars and we have the largest military budget in the world. The only cost would be to transport the troops because we are already paying for them.

    • Petty_Period2_BoydBence

      You took the words right out of my mouth. I know that, at least for me, I feel horrible about not being able to help them. They are suffering and i don’t like knowing people are suffering and that i cant help them. But the more logical side of me knows that if we go help them, that our economy will only suffer more. We have enough problems as it is… We should probably get our stuff together before we try to fix others! In the Article it stated that Obama said “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.” and I think its the perfect line to sum this all up. We aren’t saviors, we aren’t some kind of magical force that can take away all the problems, we aren’t the answer to Egypt’s problems.

    • Ryan_R_2

      I agree. I think we should try to help out Egypt, but we should wait until we can. Obama is right, we can not determine the future for Egypt. We have to let them do it themselves. We don’t have the money to help out right now.

  • Alex_Bence_Boyd

    Alex_W._Preriod 2

    Honestly, I don’t care what the United States does to aid or worsen the conflict as long as they do it! How hard is it to either stop interfering with the conflicts in Egypt or to intervene and solve the problem. Just do something with the conflict and do it NOW! Then, we can go back to our lives.

    • Petty_Period2_BoydBence

      In a way, I agree with you… But at the same time I don’t. I think that it’s important that we get this conflict over with as soon as possible, but at the same time I don’t think it will go away as fast as we all would like. In the Article it stated that Obama said “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.” To me, this statement couldn’t be truer. We as a nation can’t fix this one, no matter how hard we want to.
      But at the same time, I am pretty sure that we ((as a nation)) want it to be over as quickly as it can. We don’t want people to suffer, so it would be nice for it to end quickly!

  • Johanna Skarbek

    Johanna_S_Period2

    I think it would unnecessary for the United to States to step in during this time for Eygpt. I personally think America likes to play “Mom” sometimes and tries to take care of everyone’s issues even if they aren’t theres in the first place. I think this is one of those instances. I believe we need to sort out all of our own problems like our debt before going in saving the day for everyone else. I think it’s sufficient for us to continue to give financial aid. This is a good way of supporting them, without being too involved. Like in the last sentence, it says, “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.” I think they hit the nail on the head with that. I also think it would be dangerous for us to try and jump in at this time especially in this “perpetual state of unrest.” If we’re not carful we could end up fighting a war that’s not ours, and we don’t have the money to do that right now. I’m more worried for our debt as a country because it will be up to my generation to fix it, and I don’t want it getting any worse than it is.

  • AshmeetS_Per3_BoydBence

    This article has very interesting points to talk about, but I think intervention is bad and a reason being we are wasting 17 Trillion Dollars and counting by date now. We can’t be losing this much money, we need to stop this. We are looking for more ways for the U.S to benefit.
    Egypt is now looking for other aids, and Russia is an option. We would like tohold our relationship with Egypt, so we have to act fast. My solution would be
    not to go to war, but to continue providing financial aid to Egypt. This way we
    aren’t totally out of the picture and Egypt can continue to come to us for aid.
    This in my mind would be the best approach to this event.

    • Johanna Skarbek

      Johanna_S_Period2

      Yes, I agree with you here. I think it wouldn’t be a good idea to cut all relations with Egypt, so it is good to keep the financial aid in tact. I also thought if were a possibility, that we might lower the amount we provide them with since they are searching for others to help them out as well.

  • Isabella_V_Period3

    To be honest, I really do think that the U.S. should go help Egypt since they are our ally and they need all of the help they can get, but at the same time it’s not really any of our business to go intervene. Also we’re in so much debt it wouldn’t be a smart move. The article states that we have “…Egypt as a strategic Middle East ally in the middle of a volatile region.” What that quote is saying is that Egypt is in an area where anything can happen and its very unpredictable. If something does happen, such as war, and we had begun to aid them, then that means we would have to continue aiding them throughout the war. We don’t have that kind of money to go into war. Also, why is it that the U.S. always has to go and fight other countries wars? The U.S. always seems to be that one country helping everyone. Like Obama said, “America cannot determine the future of Egypt,”. Unless it gets really out of hand, then Egypt is just gonna have to solve this on their own or find another ally to help them.

    • Trent_H_Period3

      You make a good point with the economy side of the problem. We are in much debt as is and having “…the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.” is not helping us at all. We need to fix our economy first before we do ANYTHING dealing with military actions/military aid. If we intervene now with our ally’s like you said, we will plummet into a massive debt crisis and we will re-live the era where no-one could find job and everything is in anarchy. Once we fix our economy and stabilize our government we may be able to support with loans but not troop help until we fix our economy completely so that we can pay for transports and weapons.

      • Luke_A_Period3

        I think the economic crisis is overstated here. Yes we are in debt, and yes I agree that we should not go to war, but China is paying the one paying for it anyway. America will never pay the debt back

  • Jacob Gonzales

    Yes, because What the president is doing to there people is wrong and immoral.”Morsi attempted to reclaim his presidential powers by ordering the top Mubarak-era military leadership to retire”…” Tamarod claimed to have gathered 22 million signatures on its petition”By getting these petitons, it shows how the people are not for what he is doing or how he is going to control it. So that is why i believe we should go to war with Egypt.

  • Duncan Skiles

    Duncan_S_period 3

    In my opinion the USA should just leave Egypt to its own resources and let them deal with it themselves. If the USA intervenes then a war could break out and Egypt is already on the brink of a civil war without our trying to help. We don’t want to lose our main ally in the Middle East when we are trying to help them. (Let me elaborate a little) There are a lot of people that are trying to dictate what happens in Egypt right now; most of the sides being people who defy the golden rule. For example the article says, “Morsi had granted himself
    additional powers. Meanwhile, a new constitution drafted by a coalition of ruling Islamic parties, was widely criticized by human rights groups for sidelining the rights of women, Christians and intellectuals.” The article also says “The new military leadership, led by Sisi, suspended the constitution and shut down several Islamist media outlets.” If we try to intervene our intervention could backfire on us. There is a bunch of possible outcomes (most of which are bad) we’re not sure exactly how to completely restore Egypt to its majesty, so we should do nothing until we know how to beat these diabolical schemers once and for all.

  • Jacob Gonzales

    Yes, because What the president is doing to there people is wrong and immoral.”Morsi attempted to reclaim his presidential powers by ordering the top Mubarak-era military leadership to retire”…” Tamarod claimed to have gathered 22 million signatures on its petition”By getting these petitions it shows how the people are not for what he is doing or how he is going to control it. When the people are trying to over throw the government, It shows how they are not agreeing with the decisions that he is making,it also shows that what he is doing to them is wrong and i feel like everyone on the outside it just going to let it pass like it means nothing.So that is why I believe we should go to war with Egypt.

    • Andrea ortiz

      I agree with you. The people don’t want the government to help Egypt. Even though we should help them we cant at the moment since we have that debt.

  • Trent_H_Period3

    I also think for right now that we just need to Sit back for now and fix our main problem here in America, Our Economy. We are in a huge crisis with the government shutting down and many people going jobless because of the shutdown. “the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.” Ok so, This action here is not very smart right now and we can’t afford doing this or we will dive into another great depression. We are just throwing our money away by doing this and they need to change that. We can offer a lot less for now but if we keep giving $1.3 BILLION, it won’t be so pretty in the end.

  • David_N_2

    Says it all.

    • MaxP per3 boydbence

      I think you should revise this majorly, what is our position? Who is we? What are we helping? What evidence do you have? So, this barely says anythings.

      • Melody Murff

        I disagree with you because the meme actually says a lot. We is the United States. We are helping Egypt. The evidence is all in the article because it talks about the United States Congress is arguing whether we should help Egypt or not. The two people represents congress because congress is arguing if we should help or not. Also, our position represents our debt. I think that if you relate the meme to the article then you will understand it.

  • KaraP_Per2_BoydBence
  • Nicholas_M_Period1

    I believe that we should go in and help Egypt. When we were fighting for our revolution we got help, so why not step in and help these people during theirs? These were mostly peaceful protests that were turned violent by the government trying to put a stop them “in which hundreds were killed by government forces”. A lot of people want to use our debt as an excuse to not go in but you need to think about how our GDP is nearly 3 trillion a year I’m sure we can find some money to go to war like we have been doing for years in Iraq. Finally, what’s more important saving money or saving lives?

    • Micah Loebs

      Micah_L_Period2
      I couldn’t agree with you more, and in addition to that, supposedly we don’t have money to intervene, but we can give them $1.6 billion a year? I know it’s not a lot compared to $17 trillion in debt, but I think we could handle the cost if we cut their funding. Besides, it would cost us money in the long run if they gain too much power and we have to stop them when they become a huge force.

  • taylor_w_2nd

    Recently the Egyptian government has ben capturing and
    abusing their power on their people; but should the US intervene? I don’t believe
    The US should get involved with this conflict. The last thing we need is more
    debt and bloodshed, especially if its unnecessary. According to CNN, two thirds
    of the public people says the new government, installed by the military, is
    between a known friend and ally, but also an enemy of The US. In conclusion,
    The US would be gaining debt, loosing loved one, and aggravating what are
    already enemies. Staying out of it and leaving them to deal with their own
    problems seems like the obvious choice to me, but what do you think?

  • Petty_Period2_BoydBence

    My whole life I have been brought up to believe that you need to help the people who need it. I have grown in these beliefs and have been on plenty of trips to help the less fortunate. But as for this article, I don’t think there is anything we could do. In the Article it stated that Obama said “However, he did not go as far as cutting the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.” but he also said “America cannot determine the future of Egypt.” For me, this is pretty obvious. Even with the money we do have, It wouldn’t be enough to help them the way they need to be helped. To people in far off countries, America is portrayed as this perfect country with no problems. But in reality, thats not the case. America is a society full of flaws, and if we cant even fix those then I see now hope in us being able to help fix a country as corrupt as Egypt. America needs to get some of their own issues taken care of before we try to go off and fix something else.

    • Lawsonzper3boydbence

      I do not agree with that completely. You are correct when u say that we can’t make them but we can push them in the right directions

    • Lilly_C_Period3#

      I Agree with you in many ways.We need to work on our own issues before we try helping other countries.I also liked what you said about how the U.S can’t really help them with what they need help with.We may be able to provide them with materials they need but thats only giving our money away to something thats only going to keep this war going even further.

    • Erin_B_Period2_BoydBence

      I agree with you 100%. The United states gets to involved in foreign Issues and tries to fix everything. We need to focus on all the problems that we have for once and let Egypt handle themselves on their own for now.

  • Micah Loebs

    Micah_L_Period2
    I’m not sure if we should intervene or not, as I don’t know how things will turn out either way, but I don’t think we should be giving $1.3 billion every year to the same government that suspended its own constitution. We shouldn’t be funding these people, Sisi is too powerful and he needs to be stopped before he starts real trouble. Egypt is a powerful country, what if Sisi decides to invade another country? What if this turns into a full on civil war and the country tears itself apart? I understand the U.S. doesn’t want to intervene because they’re an important ally, but if we don’t stop him, who will? I think it’s more important that we stop a mad man than hold on to an ally in a useful place. We should at least cut the funding we’re giving them, why are we giving $1.3 billion every year to a country who Obama has condemned for their actions?

  • Jasmin Ramirez

    sidhiaosh

  • Lillian Diaz

    I agree with Joel we can’t help everybody because like he said “17 TRILLION!!! That’s a lot and we continue to add to that everyday. Wecan’t be the world’s police and help everybody” if we do who helps us? not many america bandages our own wounds. And now if Egypt gets Out of control we will come to them and get more in debt when we need to be building our money situation back up.

  • MarcusO_Per4_BoydBence

    I think that the U.S. shouldn’t get involved with Egypt, America has a 17 trillion dollar debt and counting. Intervening with Egypt would just increase this debt. America has some of its own serious problems and should be resolved before any foreign affairs.

    • nathanl_period4_boydandbence

      While i don’t think that we should intervene in a military way, however there are people in Egypt that are suffering and we can’t just sit here and whine about our debt. we need to provide aid for the people who’s lives are being ruined and ended due to this horrible conflict.

    • Luke_A_Period3

      Thats an excellent point, we should fix ourselves before we police others.

  • nathanl_period4_boydandbence

    I think that america should not go to a full out war, but doing nothing but give them a little cash will not help the situation in Egypt. We should give more aid to the people of Egypt that are suffering due to this conflict.

    • MarcusO_Per4_BoydBence

      I agree with what you have said. The people are the ones we should support and not the government that could turn that money to weaponry.

  • SydneyA_Per4_BoydBence

    I believe that the U.S should not intervene with Egypt because the U.S is already in a 17 TRILLION dollar debt and still increasing. America has their own problems to deal with. They shouldn’t go to war. ” However, he did not go as far as cutting the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.”

    • nathanl_period4_boydandbence

      I don’t think that we should get involved in the conflict but we do need to aid the people that are getting hurt by this civil war.

    • Alex P

      I agree with you Sydney. Although, the United States should be willing to help others whenever the time arises, I don’t believe we should go to war.

    • Nicholas_M_Period1

      We have troops just sitting in the middle east waiting for the orders to come home or move somewhere else. This is not a matter of money. We are already paying the people it would just be us moving them elsewhere. Even so what is better saving money or saving lives?

    • Brent_L_Per1

      I think that helping Egypt is a responsibility of the US. If you look back at the Monroe Doctrine you would remember the US told major world powers to stay out of developing countries, America helped protect those countries so I believe we should maintain that responsibility and help Egypt.

    • Erin_B_Period2_BoydBence

      I agree with you. We are already in trillions of dollars in debt and helping Egypt isn’t going to do anything good for our financial problems.

  • Alex P

    I believe that the United States first priority is to protect its citizens. If intervening in Egypt would directly or indirectly harm the United States, such as increasing debt. I don’t believe that we should. We have a good strong ally with Egypt I believe and we shouldn’t try to jeopardize it.

    Alex P

  • MaxP per3 boydbence

    I think the U.S. should help, but only by discussing between our two governments.

    • Brent_L_Per1

      I agree, us putting Egypt on their feet without any military conflict would be a win for both Egypt and America.

  • MaxP per3 boydbence

    I think the U.S. should help, but only by discussing between our two governments. We should not send in troops because that will only help a little and not be as effective as a discussion with our two government. We should not endanger our troops lives unless 100% necessary, which if there is an alternative I don’t see why to do so. We have attempted to help other countries such as Syria, as well as North Korea and I don’t think we should add another to list. We should be dealing with our own problems, like our government is shutdown! And that we are also neck deep in debt! So once we get our situations under control, than we can properly intervene with other countries.

  • Jacob_F_Per4

    I think we should stay out of it. We are already in trillions of dollars of debt to multiple countries and going to war would put us in even more debt. I think we should let them solve their own problems. However if the US does get involved it should do it soon or else it could cost us more money because we waited,

    • Cole Wierman

      I totally agree, this decision could put us deeper in our own debt.

  • madelyn

    The decision to aid Egypt is
    complicated. In my opinion the best route to take is for the US to aid Egypt.
    The most important reason I believe it’s our duty to aid Syria, is the
    obligation to help the innocent. The loss of life in Egypt is tremendous. Many
    innocent families are being slaughtered. In addition, Egypt is a major ally in
    the Middle East. The US needs to hold onto our significant allies in this
    region. If indeed we are to aid them
    financially then we need to back up that aid with military force. Egypt had
    just elected their first president and was on it’s way to becoming a democratic
    nation when the fighting and violence started.

  • Brent_L_Per1

    I think we should get involved. The article says “it has long relied on Egypt as a strategic Middle East ally in the middle of a volatile region.” Having Egypt on our side is important, if we can help them with their current situation and get their government on our side then we have succeeded,

    • Jacob_F_Per4

      I disagree. While Egypt has been an important ally for a long time we are in over $17 trillion of debt. I think that before we help Egypt we should fix our own problems.

  • Erin_B_Period2_BoydBence

    I believe that the United States should stay out of Egypt, and let them deal with this themselves. We may be good allies with Egypt and helping them would be the right thing to do, but we have so many issues of our own that we need to fix first before we start helping everyone. Secondly, it’s not only that we have our own issues, but the United States always jumps into other countries problems when we have no right too. We need to mind our own business and stop making other peoples matters ours. Lastly, if we helped Egypt the situation may not get better; us jumping in may just cause more problems. We should just leave the problem alone for now and handle it when the time for us to step in comes.

  • Maddier_period3_BoydBence

    The decision to aid Egypt is
    complicated. In my opinion the best route to take is for the US to aid Egypt.
    The most important reason I believe it’s our duty to aid Syria, is the
    obligation to help the innocent. The loss of life in Egypt is tremendous. Many
    innocent families are being slaughtered. In addition, Egypt is a major ally in
    the Middle East. The US needs to hold onto our significant allies in this
    region. If indeed we are to aid them
    financially then we need to back up that aid with military force. Egypt had
    just elected their first president and was on it’s way to becoming a democratic
    nation when the fighting and violence started.

  • Ryan_R_2

    This article brings up a lot of good points, but I think we should leave them alone. We have more then enough problems to deal with for our own country. We are in debt for more than 17 trillion dollars… I really think we should help, but we are just not ready to help anyone. We can’t even get ourself out of trouble, so whose to say that we can manage to help someone else stay out of it? We need to stop being the worlds policeman and let them deal with their own problems. We need to fix out own problems before we go and help everyone else’s, because that will just make things worse for the both of us.

  • Maddier_period3_BoydBence

    I agree with you we should only help if matters get worse

  • Cole Wierman

    Cole w period 4 boyd bence
    The united states needs to stop increasing their debt.
    If the united states come together with Egypt that could add to the amount of debt the US has.

  • Trevor Osterhout

    “In the Article it stated that Obama said “However, he did not go as far as cutting the $1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid.” but he also said “America cannot determine the future of Egypt. i agree with this because i believe that usa has enough problem to deal with like debt . we cant help other country before we help our self.

  • Cole Wierman

    I agree that we shouldn’t come together with Egypt because that would put us farther and farther back in our debt.

  • Bburlison_Per3_BoydBence

    BrandonB_Per3_BenceBoyd

    I think that we shouldn’t really intervene in Egypt because we already have enough problems to worry about, this article gives many good points on why we should send our military to help but with such a debt and many other problems to deal with it just isn’t the best choice. the national debt can be seen here-http://www.usdebtclock.org

    The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better. I, therefore, intend to oppose the effort to increase America’s debt.
    Barack Obama

  • Melody_M_2

    I don’t think that the United States government should help at all with Egypt because we are in debt and we don’t want them to kill each other. We are 17 trillion dollars in debt. We don’t want to dig deeper in that hole. I don’t think we should send money at all because we will be even more in debt. If we stop sending money, then it will slow down the war. We don’t want them to keep fighting, so we shouldn’t send our troops over there. We want to support peace and not war. “America cannot determine the future of Egypt…”

  • Luke_A_Period3

    I believe that the U.S. should not intervene in Syria. This article made good points, but the U.S. is not the worlds police. Just because we have an army that can lay down so many tons of explosives in a matter of hours, or an army that can put 50,00 solders on the ground anywhere in the world by next week, doesn’t mean we have to do so every time a conflict arises in the world. Our focus should be fixing ourself before we go fix other countries. Yes it is very bad that Syria is using Chemical Weapons, however, the United States does not have to be the country to fix this problem.

    • Michelle_S_Period3

      Luke_A_Period3 I completely agree with you. It’s bad that they are using chemical weapons, but that dosnt mean that the United States should be the one to fix the problem. We need to focus on ourselves and getting our debt lowered before fixing others problems for them first.

  • Riley_R_Period1

    This article states many good points, but in my opinion I would not support intervention in such matters. One reason not to intervene with this matter is because U.S. Already has a massive debt of more than 17 TRILLION!!! That’s a lot and we continue to add to that everyday. We can’t be the world’s police and help everybody because if we do our debt would go way too high. We need to focus on getting it lower. Now if this fire in Egypt gets to strong U.S would probably need to be the water that puts it out, but that’s if it goes really far. Now of course lots of people are getting killed but we can’t risk going there and spending tons of money, but the U.S plays a key role in this civil war. The United States now faces a policy dilemma – how to promote democracy while not alienating an Arab ally which has a peace treaty with Israel and controls the strategic Suez Canal. There’s another problem though as we delay our decision. Egypt is now looking for other aids, and Russia is an option. We would like to hold our relationship with Egypt, so we have to act fast. My solution would be not to go to war, but to continue providing financial aid to Egypt. This way we aren’t totally out of the picture and Egypt can continue to come to us for aid. This in my mind would be the best approach to this event.

  • Michelle_S_Period3

    I don’t think that we should step in and help. The U.S. is in more than 17 trillion dollars in debt. We don’t need to be spending more money to be adding to our debt. I think that we need to focus more on getting our debt down. We aren’t the world’s police and can’t fix everything that goes wrong. We are a very influential country, but that doesn’t mean we should go around spending lots of money and helping other countries. It is good that we are helping and giving them money by staying good allies with them, “…$1.3 billion the U.S. provides annually in military aid…”, but it isn’t worth increasing America’s debt. The United States needs to keep to itself for a while to try and work on getting our debt down. If the situation with Egypt gets worse then we should think about intervening. If they improve then we should leave it alone. “America cannot determine the future of Egypt,” he said.”

  • CadenM_Per1_BoydBence

    I think that we shouldn’t be involved with this conflict being that we have been i lots of others and every second our debt is rising being involved will just add more to our backs

  • BarrettC_per3_BoydBence

    This article has many good points that falll into play. One reason not to get into this matter is because the U.S. has already had a massive debt of more
    than 17 trillion dollars. We can’t help every country out, because if we do our debt would go way too high. We need to focus on getting it lower. Now if this fire in
    Egypt gets to strong the U.S would need to act as the water and needs to put it out. But that’s if it goes really far. Now of course lots of people are getting
    killed but we can’t risk going there and spending tons of money, but the U.S
    plays a key role in this civil war.Not only that but now there’s another problem, Egypt is now looking for other sources of aid, and Russia is an option. We would like to hold our relationship with Egypt, so we have to act fast. My solution would be not to go to war, but to continue providing financial aid to Egypt. What do you think?

  • MadiT_Per3_BoydBence

    I believe that the U.S, at this point, should not be trying to grant so much money to Egypt, when the truth is, we don’t have the money to give. Once our economy is in a better state, I think that we could definitely go back to the annual money we usually give them, but while it may sound selfish, we have to fix our country before we fix other countries. I think that because our alliance with them is very important there are other ways to help them, but giving them 1.3 BILLION dollars is definitely not the right way to go.

    • Kaylee Henderson

      Most defiantly! We do not have the money to give, but do not we want a better world in general? We should defiantly fix ourselves before we point out the flaw in others, but if we wait till we have money Egypt may not be savable or we could go back in debt helping them.

  • Kshitij_K_Period2

    I strongly believe that America should not intervene in Egypt. It might be trying to help, but it already had around 16 trillions dollars in debt, and it should be trying to decrease it not increase it. America should help Egypt in maybe financial aid, even though it is in no condition to do that. It could try to evacuate some people that are suffering. But intervene in the war is not a good idea, unless it gets too out of control and the its getting worse, not better.

  • Kaylee Henderson

    The U.S. should aid Egypt in finding a new leader and teaching them but we should not get involved in armies. Egypt is going back to old leaders they don’t want “He release of former President Hosni Mubarak from prison, a major slap in the face to millions of protesters who fought, back in 2011, for him to be brought to justice.” (paragraph 13.) . Egypt is obviously in trouble and sorrow to do this, I believe they need help, they need to have a path set for them to follow.

  • Kaylee Henderson

    The U.S. should aid Egypt in finding a new leader and teaching them but we should not get involved in armies. Egypt is going back to old leaders they don’t want “He release of former President Hosni Mubarak from prison, a major slap in the face to millions of protesters who fought, back in 2011, for him to be brought to justice.” (paragraph 13.) . Egypt is obviously in trouble and sorrow to do this, I believe they need help, they need to have a path set for them to follow.

  • Julie_B_2_BenceBoyd

    This article hits many good points. In my opinion I wouldn’t support a military intervention. The U.S, already has a massive dept and would just bungle things even more in Egypt. I fear that the U.S. would just cause more conflict within Egypt. Bringing in the Military would just encouradge more uprisings and protests by the civilians against there government, the Egyption Gov. doesn’t really responed well to protests. In the Article it states ” Following nearly three weeks of protests centered in Cairo’s Tahrir Square, in which hundreds were killed by government forces”. You can see that the Egyption government isn’t so freindly and tends to react violently towards things that bug them or they just don’t like. Another example of Egypts Gov.’s violent adittude as stated here ,”New deadly clashes have swept across Egypt killing dozens of protesters, civilians and soldiers”, is starting to get out of hand. I think that a military intervention in Egypt is a rather bad idea because we could just make things worse and maybe even start a HUGE WAR!!!!! The Egyption Government as we know can react in rather violant ways.

    • Riley_R_Period1

      I agree with you in not wanting to support the military intervention. Once we get involved, we will be using the 17 trillion dollars we already owe and giving them 1.3 billion dollars for support.