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Do Now #75: Immigration Reform – The Path to Citizenship

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Who should be considered for a path to citizenship? Do you agree with the proposed immigration reform bill? What is a fair/equitable approach?

Introduction

The Gang of Eight, as the eight bipartisan US Senators have been termed, has managed to reach a compromise on immigration reform after months of negotiating. Their immigration reform bill is a trade off between the four Republicans and four Democrats allowing many of the 11 million undocumented immigrants to seek U.S. citizenship, in exchange for way stricter border security standards.

“This is a very balanced bill,” said Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), the lead Democratic negotiator. “The American people have told us to do two things. One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration. And that’s what our bill does.”

The bill also makes changes to how foreigners can legally immigrate to the United States going forward. These changes are intended to make the process easier. However, only immigrants who came to the country before Dec. 31, 2011 can apply. To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. Those convicted of serious crimes are not eligible to apply.

Border security is the provision to be traded. CNN reports “There will be no path to legal residency for migrants without it,”… “Undocumented immigrants may also not reach the status of fully legal residents under the proposed legislation, until the Department of Homeland Security has implemented measures to prevent ‘unauthorized workers from obtaining employment in the United States.’”

Employers in Silicon Valley will be allowed more visas each year for high-skilled foreign workers, expanding the number of H1-B visas for high-tech workers from 65,000 to 110,000 per year and creating a new visa category for foreign entrepreneurs who want to start a business in the U.S. A new “W-visa” would allow companies to eventually hire as many as 75,000 low-skilled, non-agricultural workers per year – a compromise by big business and organized labor. But employers who hire undocumented workers will be prosecuted.

Young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers, would receive a faster path to citizenship. They could apply for a green card within five years of being granted provisional status. Agricultural workers would also face a speedier and less costly path.

This immigration bill bases immigration rights on employment and education skills rather than on the principle of reuniting families. There will be debate and revision in the months ahead, so this is not the end of the story.

Resource


PBS NewsHour video Gang of Eight Senators Fine-tune Details of Immigration Reform Bill – April 15, 2013
While supporters of immigration reform rallied on Capitol Hill, a group of eight senators put the finishing touches on legislation to overhaul the current system. Gwen Ifill talks with the Los Angeles Times’ Bill Bennett for an update on what’s in the plan.


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More Resources

PBS NewsHour Extra video Senate Hears Appeal for Immigration Reform – Feb. 15, 2013
“Our immigration system is not just broken; it is hurting our country,” Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano told the Senate’s Judiciary Committee at the first hearing on the new push for comprehensive immigration reform. She pointed out that immigration reform must strive to provide fair employment to not only American workers, but also anyone who comes to work in the United States.

LA Times document 2013 Immigration Reform Bill – April 17, 2013
The LA Times posted the 2013 Immigration Reform Bill document on their website which contains the actual bill, table of contents, and the notes during the session in Congress.

PBS NewsHour Extra video The Two-Sided Immigration Debate – Aug. 2, 2010
Last week, Arizona’s controversial immigration bill–SB 1070–went into effect. However, a last second ruling by a federal judge blocked the most controversial aspects of law, which would have permitted law enforcement to check a person’s immigration status and required all immigrants to prove they are authorized to be in the United States.

KQED’s The Lowdown collection Special Package of Immigration Reform content
A look at America’s evolving immigration system and the people affected by it.

KDOL-TV Media Enterprise Alliance Americans at Heart: The Dream Act – Feb. 24, 2012
The KDOL-TV Video Production class brings you Americans at Heart, a film about the Dream Act, a piece of legislation that impacts thousands of youth here in California and across the country. This film was second prize at BAYMN’s Rise to the Occasion Youth Media Festival.

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Maxine Einhorn is from London and has lived in the Bay Area for 12 years. She has worked in adult education in London,UK, for over twenty years as a tenured instructor and department manager. She has an MA in Film and TV from University of London and has taught, moderated and appraised academic work in film studies and media literacy at undergraduate and college level. She runs the ESL/ Post Secondary project at KQED which offers media-rich resources for and created by ESL educators.
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  • julie

    To whom to whom it may concern i was hoping would do a law to help that have been separated my husband got the ten year ban for listening to the immigration office advice and now hes in mexico and dont qualify for the new law that started in march or we would be together but he listened to them and it was all lies we have a family and cant even be together they should help families that are separated cause a single parent cant to it all a

    • David Jenny

      I like this new rule because it allows many of the 11 million undocumented immigrants to seek U.S. citizenship, in exchange for way stricter border security standards. So we can have people come move into the United States but through thorough background checks we can make sure the immigrants are not coming to the U.S. for any other agendas other than jobs or freedom for oppression.
      It also allows the Domecratic party and the Republican party to find some common ground on a decision. I agree with Senator Chuck Schumer who says this is a very balanced bill. The only downside is that jobs will be harder to find with more and more immigrants coming to the United States.

      • Sam Rob

        I totally agree with David Jenny on this one! HE is exactly right!!!!

      • Wesley_C#1

        I agree with David Jenny because giving someone the opportunity to succeed is the greatest thing that you can do for someone so letting them come into the country that offers so many jobs because this is the land of opportunity. So when they come to America the economy will increase do to the more citizens that we have having an economy boom.

      • Osmar Angel

        I agree with David because if they pass this law the economy will become better because there will be more people working witch means there will be more people paying taxes

        • soffia_d_4

          I agree with osmar if they legalize more mexican immigrants it will help are economy because then they will have to pay all the same taxes we pay also for the mexican immigrants that come to the U.S.A. they will get payed what they should because many of them that come here will be hired and payed less than minium wage, and thats not fair to anyone.

  • julie

    To whom to whom it may concern i was hoping would do a law to help that have been separated my husband got the ten year ban for listening to the immigration office advice and now hes in mexico and dont qualify for the new law that started in march or we would be together but he listened to them and it was all lies we have a family and cant even be together they should help families that are separated cause a single parent cant to it all a

    • David Jenny

      I like this new rule because it allows many of the 11 million undocumented immigrants to seek U.S. citizenship, in exchange for way stricter border security standards. So we can have people come move into the United States but through thorough background checks we can make sure the immigrants are not coming to the U.S. for any other agendas other than jobs or freedom for oppression.
      It also allows the Domecratic party and the Republican party to find some common ground on a decision. I agree with Senator Chuck Schumer who says this is a very balanced bill. The only downside is that jobs will be harder to find with more and more immigrants coming to the United States.

      • Sam Rob

        I totally agree with David Jenny on this one! HE is exactly right!!!!

      • Wesley_C#1

        I agree with David Jenny because giving someone the opportunity to succeed is the greatest thing that you can do for someone so letting them come into the country that offers so many jobs because this is the land of opportunity. So when they come to America the economy will increase do to the more citizens that we have having an economy boom.

      • Osmar Angel

        I agree with David because if they pass this law the economy will become better because there will be more people working witch means there will be more people paying taxes

        • soffia_d_4

          I agree with osmar if they legalize more mexican immigrants it will help are economy because then they will have to pay all the same taxes we pay also for the mexican immigrants that come to the U.S.A. they will get payed what they should because many of them that come here will be hired and payed less than minium wage, and thats not fair to anyone.

  • John DiPaolo

    I emphatically oppose this legislation that seems to have been written by and for the robber baron ruling class.

    Contrast the 25 years after WWII (expanding middle class/moderate historical immigration levels) to the previous 25 years (surging immigration levels/middle class devastation/wage depression/upward wealth redistribution).

    And even this doesn’t seem to be enough. The only thing that seems to bring both political parties together is that the US still isn’t a third world country. This bill would remedy that.

  • John DiPaolo

    I emphatically oppose this legislation that seems to have been written by and for the robber baron ruling class.

    Contrast the 25 years after WWII (expanding middle class/moderate historical immigration levels) to the previous 25 years (surging immigration levels/middle class devastation/wage depression/upward wealth redistribution).

    And even this doesn’t seem to be enough. The only thing that seems to bring both political parties together is that the US still isn’t a third world country. This bill would remedy that.

  • Syd

    I think that while America does need immigration reform, I can’t say that I completely agree with this bill. I think that ten years for a green card, along with the additional three for citizenship, is far too long for immigrants to wait. That is too long for these people to pay into the system and not reap many of the benefits that come to citizens. These people come to America for a better life, they fill many of the jobs many Americans don’t want to do.
    However, even though there are some things about this new bill that I oppose, I think that it will better what is in place now.

    • fat patricia

      this is so rong

      • David Jenny

        so is your spelling of “wrong”

  • Syd

    I think that while America does need immigration reform, I can’t say that I completely agree with this bill. I think that ten years for a green card, along with the additional three for citizenship, is far too long for immigrants to wait. That is too long for these people to pay into the system and not reap many of the benefits that come to citizens. These people come to America for a better life, they fill many of the jobs many Americans don’t want to do.
    However, even though there are some things about this new bill that I oppose, I think that it will better what is in place now.

    • fat patricia

      this is so rong

      • David Jenny

        so is your spelling of “wrong”

  • Katherine Moser

    I believe this bill is a solid compromise, but will only work for now. I’m much more liberal, and in an ideal world, the path to citizenship for immigrants would be much more fast and clean. I believe that all immigrants who come to America, are hard-working and have good backgrounds deserve a fair chance at becoming a citizen. The bill in general sounds fair, however, the length of time it takes to obtain a green card (10 years) is absolutely absurd to me. I don’t understand why we would make an immigrant wait so long to even get a temporary citizenship if they are working for us and paying taxes- something plenty of citizens born in America don’t do now. This bill is just a tiny step on the path to comprehensive and fair immigration reform- much more needs to be done.

    • Syd

      Katherine- I totally agree with you. As long as an immigrant comes here with fair intentions I think that the path to citizenship should be much quicker. After all, nearly all of us have ancestors that immigrated here, so why shouldn’t people now be given that same opportunity to become American as well? I also agree with you about the unfairness of non-citizen immigrants having to pay into the system without reaping any of the benefits that citizens do. I also think that this will only be a temporary solution and more reform will be needed in the future.

    • catherine_j_4

      I agree as well. 10 years is a ridiculous amount of time to wait, especially because it makes the alternative – remaining illegal – much easier. If they haven’t been discovered yet, what’s the point in spending all this time and money trying to become legal? With this system, it might help a bit, but most of the illegal immigrants won’t go for it. I wouldn’t, if I were one.

      • ahmed_k_2

        I Agree It is a long time for 10 years and they need the citizen ship so they support there family and if they wait 10 year they would rather just not apply at all and still go in and out undocumented.

        • Anthony Martinez

          I agree with Ahmed i think the wait is a bit ridicules because one of the main reasons people cross the border is because they are disparate for money at that moment, and have no other option to make money.

      • sameen_j_3

        Waiting any amount of time after being in the US as an immigrant- legal or otherwise- is ridiculous. These immigrants have done their waiting and came to the US for a better future immediately. They don’t want to wait for their citizenship when they can work now. It may make life easier, but where are they going to find the extra $500 plus tax only to process an application? They came here to make money to send home, they don’t have the time to wait 10 years for citizenship, nor is it worth the money.

      • soffia_d_4

        I also agree if I was in need of money I wouldn’t wait 10 years and pay $500 to get legal documents when I know I could still make money with out it, I would rather cross the bored make the money I needed and spend it home.

      • Garrett_P_4

        There is not much we can do, they can only do an amount of things in a year.

    • Chelsea_C_1

      I absolutely agree with Katherine. Ten years is an extremely long time to obtain a green card. There is no point to make an immigrant so long to get a TEMPORARY citizenship. They are working extremely hard and paying those taxes. As an immigrant comes here with fair intention, I feel that they should get a faster path to citizenship. It is different if the immigrant is coming here without a good intention and is wanting to make our country, not better but worse. We are also helping them; they need it for their families and I feel if they are trying to help us and them that it is only fair to have a good path of citizenship.

    • Skylar_G_3

      I completely agree, Katherine. I have a cousin whose boyfriend was born in Argentina. He applied for a green card so he could live here legally. It has been 7 years and he still has not received his green card. He has to stay on a temporary visa and is not allowed to stay all year round. I think it is completely unfair that the immigrants that are trying to be ethical, are the one who have a harder time. Most of the immigrants just want to be able to support their family, financially. I think that it is admirable that they are willing to risk so much for the well-being of their family and I don’t think that it is right that there is no easy way for them to become citizens. All they want is a chance to earn their keep.

  • Katherine Moser

    I believe this bill is a solid compromise, but will only work for now. I’m much more liberal, and in an ideal world, the path to citizenship for immigrants would be much more fast and clean. I believe that all immigrants who come to America, are hard-working and have good backgrounds deserve a fair chance at becoming a citizen. The bill in general sounds fair, however, the length of time it takes to obtain a green card (10 years) is absolutely absurd to me. I don’t understand why we would make an immigrant wait so long to even get a temporary citizenship if they are working for us and paying taxes- something plenty of citizens born in America don’t do now. This bill is just a tiny step on the path to comprehensive and fair immigration reform- much more needs to be done.

    • Syd

      Katherine- I totally agree with you. As long as an immigrant comes here with fair intentions I think that the path to citizenship should be much quicker. After all, nearly all of us have ancestors that immigrated here, so why shouldn’t people now be given that same opportunity to become American as well? I also agree with you about the unfairness of non-citizen immigrants having to pay into the system without reaping any of the benefits that citizens do. I also think that this will only be a temporary solution and more reform will be needed in the future.

    • catherine_j_4

      I agree as well. 10 years is a ridiculous amount of time to wait, especially because it makes the alternative – remaining illegal – much easier. If they haven’t been discovered yet, what’s the point in spending all this time and money trying to become legal? With this system, it might help a bit, but most of the illegal immigrants won’t go for it. I wouldn’t, if I were one.

      • ahmed_k_2

        I Agree It is a long time for 10 years and they need the citizen ship so they support there family and if they wait 10 year they would rather just not apply at all and still go in and out undocumented.

        • Anthony Martinez

          I agree with Ahmed i think the wait is a bit ridicules because one of the main reasons people cross the border is because they are disparate for money at that moment, and have no other option to make money.

      • sameen_j_3

        Waiting any amount of time after being in the US as an immigrant- legal or otherwise- is ridiculous. These immigrants have done their waiting and came to the US for a better future immediately. They don’t want to wait for their citizenship when they can work now. It may make life easier, but where are they going to find the extra $500 plus tax only to process an application? They came here to make money to send home, they don’t have the time to wait 10 years for citizenship, nor is it worth the money.

      • soffia_d_4

        I also agree if I was in need of money I wouldn’t wait 10 years and pay $500 to get legal documents when I know I could still make money with out it, I would rather cross the bored make the money I needed and spend it home.

      • Garrett_P_4

        There is not much we can do, they can only do an amount of things in a year.

    • Chelsea_C_1

      I absolutely agree with Katherine. Ten years is an extremely long time to obtain a green card. There is no point to make an immigrant so long to get a TEMPORARY citizenship. They are working extremely hard and paying those taxes. As an immigrant comes here with fair intention, I feel that they should get a faster path to citizenship. It is different if the immigrant is coming here without a good intention and is wanting to make our country, not better but worse. We are also helping them; they need it for their families and I feel if they are trying to help us and them that it is only fair to have a good path of citizenship.

    • Skylar_G_3

      I completely agree, Katherine. I have a cousin whose boyfriend was born in Argentina. He applied for a green card so he could live here legally. It has been 7 years and he still has not received his green card. He has to stay on a temporary visa and is not allowed to stay all year round. I think it is completely unfair that the immigrants that are trying to be ethical, are the one who have a harder time. Most of the immigrants just want to be able to support their family, financially. I think that it is admirable that they are willing to risk so much for the well-being of their family and I don’t think that it is right that there is no easy way for them to become citizens. All they want is a chance to earn their keep.

  • Sam Rob

    I believe that we should begin stricter border patrol. However, we should let every illegal immigrant in our country now have a chance to become legal. If they are already here and our country is fine then they might as well stay. I honestly believe that this would get the job done without to much corruption.

    • alex

      i agree with your first part where you said we should have stricter boarder patrol but i dont agree with you second part where you said we should give the illegal immigrants a chance. because if we let that happen a lot more immigrants will come over illegally.

      • Nicholas_B_4

        I agree that we should make a stricter border patrol and we should let all the current illegal immigrants stay but pay higher taxes

        • arthi_t_1

          Nicholas: I ask of you to think about the consequences of upping taxes on undocumented workers. It’s a well known fact that, since they aren’t legal, they work for incredibly low wages. It’s also known that many immigrants send the majority of their earnings to their family in another country. How much money do you think that the average illegal immigrant would have? The vast majority of them would fall under extremely low-income. Knowing this, how can you support raising taxes on them? There was a huge outcry when Obama wanted to raise taxes on the upper class, and it’s even more abominable that someone supports raising taxes on the poor. Doing so would affect their quality of life so suddenly and dramatically– it would be less than compassionate of the American government, and it definitely wouldn’t follow our morals. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.” There’s no question that upping taxes would arguably be taking away all three of these rights from undocumented workers!

          • Carlie_P_4

            I agree with arthi.
            Nicholas: What were you having in mind of making stricter a border patrol? Also letting all current illegal immigrants stay would not be fair to people who are taking the right steps to get a citizenship. If they let them stay then you are rewarding people who have come here illegally.

        • ahmed_k_2

          i agree that they should for sure stop undocumented immigration but they should treat them fairly but they have to pay every single tax payment they have not paid

  • Sam Rob

    I believe that we should begin stricter border patrol. However, we should let every illegal immigrant in our country now have a chance to become legal. If they are already here and our country is fine then they might as well stay. I honestly believe that this would get the job done without to much corruption.

    • alex

      i agree with your first part where you said we should have stricter boarder patrol but i dont agree with you second part where you said we should give the illegal immigrants a chance. because if we let that happen a lot more immigrants will come over illegally.

      • Nicholas_B_4

        I agree that we should make a stricter border patrol and we should let all the current illegal immigrants stay but pay higher taxes

        • arthi_t_1

          Nicholas: I ask of you to think about the consequences of upping taxes on undocumented workers. It’s a well known fact that, since they aren’t legal, they work for incredibly low wages. It’s also known that many immigrants send the majority of their earnings to their family in another country. How much money do you think that the average illegal immigrant would have? The vast majority of them would fall under extremely low-income. Knowing this, how can you support raising taxes on them? There was a huge outcry when Obama wanted to raise taxes on the upper class, and it’s even more abominable that someone supports raising taxes on the poor. Doing so would affect their quality of life so suddenly and dramatically– it would be less than compassionate of the American government, and it definitely wouldn’t follow our morals. “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.” There’s no question that upping taxes would arguably be taking away all three of these rights from undocumented workers!

          • Carlie_P_4

            I agree with arthi.
            Nicholas: What were you having in mind of making stricter a border patrol? Also letting all current illegal immigrants stay would not be fair to people who are taking the right steps to get a citizenship. If they let them stay then you are rewarding people who have come here illegally.

        • ahmed_k_2

          i agree that they should for sure stop undocumented immigration but they should treat them fairly but they have to pay every single tax payment they have not paid

  • Alex M

    I believe that everyone who wants it should at least get a shot at U.S. citizenship, and this bill seems like a mostly fair way for for these people to attain it. The only problem with it is that a total of 13 years to attain citizenship seems extremely long. At least younger people could attain a green card in half the time, but it’s still a very long wait. Besides that, I feel that this bill will overall strengthen our immigration laws.

    • Julianne_G_3

      I agree with you but I am a little more focused on how we are going to fix the illegal immigrants we already have. Are they just going to get to stay here illegally while they try and get green cards? I think that everyone should get a shot and I like everyone getting a chance but I think if a person illegally comes to the us they shouldn’t be allowed to get U.S. citizenship because they broke huge laws coming illegally. This is just my opinion though.

      • Alex M

        Well, the bill will help those 11 million illegal immigrants already here seek citizenship. We can’t just ask them to leave and expect all 11 million them to do it, so at least while they are here they can get a chance at being real citizens. The bill also suggests stronger border security, so immigrants will have a harder time getting into the U.S. So those already here will have a chance, while less will be getting in illegally. I think it sounds like a good bill.

      • Madison_F_1

        I agree. For the people who are doing it the right way, good for them, I am all for that. But those who come here illegally shouldn’t be allowed to get a citizenship unless they go back and do it the right way. I just feel that people who work hard and really want to be a citizen in America, not for the jobs or money, but because they want to be apart of this nation and be apart of America, they should be here. I’m not saying all illegals are only here for our jobs and money, but a pretty large amount are. If the government just hands out citizenship to people that came here illegally that haven’t abided to a simple law, how do we know they wont abide by other laws that are a much serious case.

    • Chelsea_C_1

      I agree with Alex but I am a little more concerned on how to fix the illegal immigrants we already have. I am aware that it takes along time to obtain a green card and I want to help fix that. I feel that everyone that is wanting to be here should follow there dreams. Thats what life is about, right? I only support the people that are here for the right intentions and to help us. I would really want to help them get a green card quicker. But, for those who are not.. I am not on their side and I feel they have no right on being here. Most immigrants come here for a better life and I feel the pain. All they want is a better life. As for the people that come here to disrupt and destroy our country they should not be aloud. For those people that are here illegally today, I would like them to go back and do it the right way. I would support them for that and I feel like most people would. I feel like the people that would like to be apart of our nation should. They should not just come here for jobs and money, thats not really right. I am not trying to say all undocumented workers are just here for jobs and money but most are. I understand they want to help families out but why not get a work visa? If they are already breaking the law for the being here, don’t you think they will abide by other laws that are much more serious.

    • Garrett_P_4

      I agree, but I think they should do the same amount of stuff to apply but the process is different so it is a quicker process.

      • soffia_d_4

        I agree with garrett maybe if they found a way to process the information so they could get citizenship sooner it would work better.

  • Alex M

    I believe that everyone who wants it should at least get a shot at U.S. citizenship, and this bill seems like a mostly fair way for for these people to attain it. The only problem with it is that a total of 13 years to attain citizenship seems extremely long. At least younger people could attain a green card in half the time, but it’s still a very long wait. Besides that, I feel that this bill will overall strengthen our immigration laws.

    • Julianne_G_3

      I agree with you but I am a little more focused on how we are going to fix the illegal immigrants we already have. Are they just going to get to stay here illegally while they try and get green cards? I think that everyone should get a shot and I like everyone getting a chance but I think if a person illegally comes to the us they shouldn’t be allowed to get U.S. citizenship because they broke huge laws coming illegally. This is just my opinion though.

      • Alex M

        Well, the bill will help those 11 million illegal immigrants already here seek citizenship. We can’t just ask them to leave and expect all 11 million them to do it, so at least while they are here they can get a chance at being real citizens. The bill also suggests stronger border security, so immigrants will have a harder time getting into the U.S. So those already here will have a chance, while less will be getting in illegally. I think it sounds like a good bill.

      • Madison_F_1

        I agree. For the people who are doing it the right way, good for them, I am all for that. But those who come here illegally shouldn’t be allowed to get a citizenship unless they go back and do it the right way. I just feel that people who work hard and really want to be a citizen in America, not for the jobs or money, but because they want to be apart of this nation and be apart of America, they should be here. I’m not saying all illegals are only here for our jobs and money, but a pretty large amount are. If the government just hands out citizenship to people that came here illegally that haven’t abided to a simple law, how do we know they wont abide by other laws that are a much serious case.

    • Chelsea_C_1

      I agree with Alex but I am a little more concerned on how to fix the illegal immigrants we already have. I am aware that it takes along time to obtain a green card and I want to help fix that. I feel that everyone that is wanting to be here should follow there dreams. Thats what life is about, right? I only support the people that are here for the right intentions and to help us. I would really want to help them get a green card quicker. But, for those who are not.. I am not on their side and I feel they have no right on being here. Most immigrants come here for a better life and I feel the pain. All they want is a better life. As for the people that come here to disrupt and destroy our country they should not be aloud. For those people that are here illegally today, I would like them to go back and do it the right way. I would support them for that and I feel like most people would. I feel like the people that would like to be apart of our nation should. They should not just come here for jobs and money, thats not really right. I am not trying to say all undocumented workers are just here for jobs and money but most are. I understand they want to help families out but why not get a work visa? If they are already breaking the law for the being here, don’t you think they will abide by other laws that are much more serious.

    • Garrett_P_4

      I agree, but I think they should do the same amount of stuff to apply but the process is different so it is a quicker process.

      • soffia_d_4

        I agree with garrett maybe if they found a way to process the information so they could get citizenship sooner it would work better.

  • Jason

    I think a fair path to citizenship is one which involves passing 2 background checks (run by both the USA and the persons country of origin), spending 10 years in the USA, and then passing a citizenship test. I don’t really care whether or not an immigrant can demonstrate English proficiency, seeing as we do not have an official language (USA.gov). I agree with most parts of the bill, but disagree with how it only applies to people who immigrated before December 31, 2011 (KQED). That seems like an arbitrary date. What about everyone who immigrated in 2012? Or the people immigrating in 2013 before the bill is passed? Why is the cutoff based upon a date, rather than behavior or criminal history? We need an approach that helps bring in skilled workers, this bill would do that (Yahoo News).

    In response to John DiPaolo’s comment, I am not sure how letting in skilled immigrants to America would make our country third world. If anything, it would allow us to maintain our competitive edge in the world.

    • Chris

      I agree with you on this, but if they come to the US looking for a job, they’ll need to be citizens for some jobs. 10 years seems like a long time. What will they do for such a long time if they can’t get a job?

      • Jason

        We can just increase the number of work visas. I know a lot of immigrants who were not citizens for more than ten years, and then became citizens. Some of them didn’t even work, which is cool. For the most part, only some government jobs require that you be a citizen. Employers are not allowed to discriminate based upon which form of identification you show (visa, US passport, etc.).

        • Chris

          That sounds good then. Everyone should be allowed in here, but must prove that they could live here. Not every American wants to be a construction worker, and allowed the immigrants to come here will allow them not only to get a job, but it would help us out at the same time.

    • Osmar Angel

      I agree with jason, back round checks should be mandatory because if we dont give them then we might let repeat felans in to our country and that will probably bring the economy down because the government will have to pay more money towards prisons.

  • Jason

    I think a fair path to citizenship is one which involves passing 2 background checks (run by both the USA and the persons country of origin), spending 10 years in the USA, and then passing a citizenship test. I don’t really care whether or not an immigrant can demonstrate English proficiency, seeing as we do not have an official language (USA.gov). I agree with most parts of the bill, but disagree with how it only applies to people who immigrated before December 31, 2011 (KQED). That seems like an arbitrary date. What about everyone who immigrated in 2012? Or the people immigrating in 2013 before the bill is passed? Why is the cutoff based upon a date, rather than behavior or criminal history? We need an approach that helps bring in skilled workers, this bill would do that (Yahoo News).

    In response to John DiPaolo’s comment, I am not sure how letting in skilled immigrants to America would make our country third world. If anything, it would allow us to maintain our competitive edge in the world.

    • Chris

      I agree with you on this, but if they come to the US looking for a job, they’ll need to be citizens for some jobs. 10 years seems like a long time. What will they do for such a long time if they can’t get a job?

      • Jason

        We can just increase the number of work visas. I know a lot of immigrants who were not citizens for more than ten years, and then became citizens. Some of them didn’t even work, which is cool. For the most part, only some government jobs require that you be a citizen. Employers are not allowed to discriminate based upon which form of identification you show (visa, US passport, etc.).

        • Chris

          That sounds good then. Everyone should be allowed in here, but must prove that they could live here. Not every American wants to be a construction worker, and allowed the immigrants to come here will allow them not only to get a job, but it would help us out at the same time.

    • Osmar Angel

      I agree with jason, back round checks should be mandatory because if we dont give them then we might let repeat felans in to our country and that will probably bring the economy down because the government will have to pay more money towards prisons.

  • Grace

    I oppose this bill because we need to make obtaining a green card easier, not harder. This is a good start, and a good compromise between democrats and republicans, but I personally don’t agree completely with this bill. It should not have to take 13+ years to become a citizen of the United States. Under this bill, this community can work for us and can pay taxes, but they can’t receive health benefits, they can’t vote, etc. If they have a clean background, and are hard-working people in our community, we should reward them- not postpone their citizenship status. I think welcoming 11 million undocumented immigrants into U.S. citizenship is important if not crucial to our society, and I agree with the part of the bill that allows DREAMers to obtain citizenship faster. I think punishing employers vs. employees is also a good compromise in this bill. The immigrants in our society plays an important and pivotal role, so they should be treated as so. I don’t know all the answers, but I believe we should make the path for immigrants to gain legal citizenship status easier.

    • Joseph_T_1

      I agree with you grace because immigrants work very hard to get over to america, and it should be easier to get a green card. 13 years is way to long for anyone to gain a citizenship anywhere.

      • Tori_H_4

        Grace, although I do agree with most of what you are saying, I disagree with just allowing 11 million immigrants into the country. Yes, immigrants do play a necessary role in our society, but I believe we need to think about recourses. Unemployment is an undeniable issue in the US, and allowing these 11 million immigrants freely into our society will attract other immigrants. This isn’t a problem, but 11 million immigrants soon rises and could take advantage. That limits the number of available jobs.

        • Elisabeth_S_3

          Tori_H_4, I agree with you. I feel that if 11 million undocumented workers come into the country and take jobs ahead of U.S. citizens, the economy will lose any balance it has. If these workers are receiving health care and education without paying taxes, we will lose economic stability. While I do agree with Grace that the process for citizenship is too long and that it should be cut down, I don’t believe we should permit 11 million immigrants into our country without boundaries and restrictions.

          • jarrett_h_3

            I absolutely agree with Toral and Lillie. These 11 million undocumented immigrants are taking a toll on the U.S. economy and need to be deported. Now, I don’t necessarily think they need to go at once, because then we will have 11 million jobs empty and we will encounter more problems than what we started with. Or, instead of deporting them all, we could offer them a simpler and more attainable citizenship plan, like Lillie mentioned, in order to give the undocumented workers a better quality of life while boosting the economy with a new load of tax income.

    • preston_D_2

      I don’t agree with your 13+ argument. The time period is crucial because without the amount of time for the documentation of the worker, many Illegals, or criminals could easily slip by our borders. Allowing over 11 million immigrants into our country is unthinkable, and while the number is growing, we need to place our time and energy into making sure everyone has a fair and equal chance at entering the USA. The economy and available jobs would fall drastically if there were close to that number of immigrants in the country.

    • Jordan_P_1

      I agree with you grace green cards should be made easier to get not harder and the 13+ years is pretty crazy. If we make green cards easier to obtain, less immigrants will come illegally.

  • Grace

    I oppose this bill because we need to make obtaining a green card easier, not harder. This is a good start, and a good compromise between democrats and republicans, but I personally don’t agree completely with this bill. It should not have to take 13+ years to become a citizen of the United States. Under this bill, this community can work for us and can pay taxes, but they can’t receive health benefits, they can’t vote, etc. If they have a clean background, and are hard-working people in our community, we should reward them- not postpone their citizenship status. I think welcoming 11 million undocumented immigrants into U.S. citizenship is important if not crucial to our society, and I agree with the part of the bill that allows DREAMers to obtain citizenship faster. I think punishing employers vs. employees is also a good compromise in this bill. The immigrants in our society plays an important and pivotal role, so they should be treated as so. I don’t know all the answers, but I believe we should make the path for immigrants to gain legal citizenship status easier.

    • Joseph_T_1

      I agree with you grace because immigrants work very hard to get over to america, and it should be easier to get a green card. 13 years is way to long for anyone to gain a citizenship anywhere.

      • Tori_H_4

        Grace, although I do agree with most of what you are saying, I disagree with just allowing 11 million immigrants into the country. Yes, immigrants do play a necessary role in our society, but I believe we need to think about recourses. Unemployment is an undeniable issue in the US, and allowing these 11 million immigrants freely into our society will attract other immigrants. This isn’t a problem, but 11 million immigrants soon rises and could take advantage. That limits the number of available jobs.

        • Elisabeth_S_3

          Tori_H_4, I agree with you. I feel that if 11 million undocumented workers come into the country and take jobs ahead of U.S. citizens, the economy will lose any balance it has. If these workers are receiving health care and education without paying taxes, we will lose economic stability. While I do agree with Grace that the process for citizenship is too long and that it should be cut down, I don’t believe we should permit 11 million immigrants into our country without boundaries and restrictions.

          • jarrett_h_3

            I absolutely agree with Toral and Lillie. These 11 million undocumented immigrants are taking a toll on the U.S. economy and need to be deported. Now, I don’t necessarily think they need to go at once, because then we will have 11 million jobs empty and we will encounter more problems than what we started with. Or, instead of deporting them all, we could offer them a simpler and more attainable citizenship plan, like Lillie mentioned, in order to give the undocumented workers a better quality of life while boosting the economy with a new load of tax income.

    • preston_D_2

      I don’t agree with your 13+ argument. The time period is crucial because without the amount of time for the documentation of the worker, many Illegals, or criminals could easily slip by our borders. Allowing over 11 million immigrants into our country is unthinkable, and while the number is growing, we need to place our time and energy into making sure everyone has a fair and equal chance at entering the USA. The economy and available jobs would fall drastically if there were close to that number of immigrants in the country.

    • Jordan_P_1

      I agree with you grace green cards should be made easier to get not harder and the 13+ years is pretty crazy. If we make green cards easier to obtain, less immigrants will come illegally.

  • Mo

    I think that this bill is a step forward in immigration, which is much needed in this country. To have something that both parties support is almost exceptional in this day in age, especially for a hot topic like immigration reform. It is good that they are providing a better pathway for citizenship, but it seems to be a long and tedious road. This bill has good features, but also some bad features.
    I’m glad that the bill adds additional visas for all skill level jobs- from farm to low skill to high skill. This will provide a legal and safer way for something that is already happening.
    I agree with the Obama administration, that with this bill and an increase in legal pathways, there doesn’t need to be an increase in border security or “higher fences”. I think that the fees should be a solid number whether $500 or $615, so that people know how much they must save and aren’t tricked by the pile up of fees.
    I also think that there should be a better system for education visas, and that once a someone graduates from college that it should be easier for them to gain a green card. If they have a green card via education, it should be easier for them to gain citizenship. By putting an emphasis on education, we will raise the competition in college and jobs, forcing Americans to go to college, and therefore creating a more educated population.

    • Rebekah_W_2

      I am only slightly confused on what you are trying to voice here. So there should be a better system for education visas, but you also are saying we need to ‘force’ americans to go to college? You state that by emphasizing on education, we will raise the competition in college and jobs, but how exactly does this relate to immigrants? I see that this should make it easier for immigrants to gain citizenship through an education visa, but how plausable do you think this is?

  • Mo

    I think that this bill is a step forward in immigration, which is much needed in this country. To have something that both parties support is almost exceptional in this day in age, especially for a hot topic like immigration reform. It is good that they are providing a better pathway for citizenship, but it seems to be a long and tedious road. This bill has good features, but also some bad features.
    I’m glad that the bill adds additional visas for all skill level jobs- from farm to low skill to high skill. This will provide a legal and safer way for something that is already happening.
    I agree with the Obama administration, that with this bill and an increase in legal pathways, there doesn’t need to be an increase in border security or “higher fences”. I think that the fees should be a solid number whether $500 or $615, so that people know how much they must save and aren’t tricked by the pile up of fees.
    I also think that there should be a better system for education visas, and that once a someone graduates from college that it should be easier for them to gain a green card. If they have a green card via education, it should be easier for them to gain citizenship. By putting an emphasis on education, we will raise the competition in college and jobs, forcing Americans to go to college, and therefore creating a more educated population.

    • Rebekah_W_2

      I am only slightly confused on what you are trying to voice here. So there should be a better system for education visas, but you also are saying we need to ‘force’ americans to go to college? You state that by emphasizing on education, we will raise the competition in college and jobs, but how exactly does this relate to immigrants? I see that this should make it easier for immigrants to gain citizenship through an education visa, but how plausable do you think this is?

  • Sabiha

    I think anyone who fits the profile (i.e- not an ex-convict) and is trying to better their life or the lives of their family by living and working in the United States should be considered for a path to citizenship. I agree with this bill and I think the compromise is fair; we do need stricter border security for the safety of everyone involved. It seems as though the bill will offer many channels to citizenship for immigrants of all socioeconomic groups, from farmers to highly educated and skilled workers. Along with providing this opportunity to immigrants here before December 31, 2011- we should also work on making an easier, less expensive, legal path to our country for people who want to come here.

    • daniela_m_2

      Being an undocumented immigrant is like being a kid that goes to school without being enrolled in the school. They get the same education that the other kids get, but they don’t participate in school activities such and fun raisers and donations. The school has no idea the kid exists, and if they find out that this kid is going to school with out being documented, then they will be kicked out.
      My point is, if they are not documented, then how would the U.s know their background? If the undocumented immigrant doesn’t also put in and try to become a legal citizen, then there is no way that your idea would work. I mean they wouldn’t want to have to pay taxes, all they want is to get enough money to provide food and shelter for their families, and paying taxes will just make that a little more difficult.

      • scott_c_1

        “The school has no idea the kid exists” I don’t fully understand you’re comment about how the school has no idea you exists. The teacher doesn’t have to know where you live, to know you are alive. The teachers treat the other kids with equal amount of respect if you our from the U.S or not. http://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/are-children-of-illegal-immigrants-entitled-to-a-public-education/
        The teacher obviously knows you exist if you are in the classroom. Did you mean that they don’t know about being undocumented worker. http://www.ericdigests.org/pre-9217/children.htm

        • olivia_m_4

          Scott, what she’s saying is that the government doesn’t know that kid exists. Yes, the teachers and students there can tell that they kid is there and alive, but they have no idea who he is or where he came from because he’s illegal and has no paperwork.

        • preston_D_2

          Scott, I’m confused on your point, she is not saying that we can’t tell if a child is there. They don’t know if he is getting the required education. I agree with Daniela’s post however, I think that they would not kick the child out of the school. If they were not born in the country and do not have citizenship, they should not be allowed the freedom to be in school. If they become citizens, then it is our responsibility to educate and inform them.

        • ahmed_k_2

          actually teachers care because if there was a undocumented student then that area they live in is usually not very paid well so the teacher would do anything for money so they might get a reward for telling that some kids in her/his class are undocumented or the parents will bribe the teacher to not tell.

        • Jordan_P_1

          Scott, What she’s saying is that they know that you’re there in the classrooms. But they dont know that you’re illegal because they can’t really ask without being criticized for it.

  • Sabiha

    I think anyone who fits the profile (i.e- not an ex-convict) and is trying to better their life or the lives of their family by living and working in the United States should be considered for a path to citizenship. I agree with this bill and I think the compromise is fair; we do need stricter border security for the safety of everyone involved. It seems as though the bill will offer many channels to citizenship for immigrants of all socioeconomic groups, from farmers to highly educated and skilled workers. Along with providing this opportunity to immigrants here before December 31, 2011- we should also work on making an easier, less expensive, legal path to our country for people who want to come here.

    • daniela_m_2

      Being an undocumented immigrant is like being a kid that goes to school without being enrolled in the school. They get the same education that the other kids get, but they don’t participate in school activities such and fun raisers and donations. The school has no idea the kid exists, and if they find out that this kid is going to school with out being documented, then they will be kicked out.
      My point is, if they are not documented, then how would the U.s know their background? If the undocumented immigrant doesn’t also put in and try to become a legal citizen, then there is no way that your idea would work. I mean they wouldn’t want to have to pay taxes, all they want is to get enough money to provide food and shelter for their families, and paying taxes will just make that a little more difficult.

      • scott_c_1

        “The school has no idea the kid exists” I don’t fully understand you’re comment about how the school has no idea you exists. The teacher doesn’t have to know where you live, to know you are alive. The teachers treat the other kids with equal amount of respect if you our from the U.S or not. http://learning.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/06/are-children-of-illegal-immigrants-entitled-to-a-public-education/
        The teacher obviously knows you exist if you are in the classroom. Did you mean that they don’t know about being undocumented worker. http://www.ericdigests.org/pre-9217/children.htm

        • olivia_m_4

          Scott, what she’s saying is that the government doesn’t know that kid exists. Yes, the teachers and students there can tell that they kid is there and alive, but they have no idea who he is or where he came from because he’s illegal and has no paperwork.

        • preston_D_2

          Scott, I’m confused on your point, she is not saying that we can’t tell if a child is there. They don’t know if he is getting the required education. I agree with Daniela’s post however, I think that they would not kick the child out of the school. If they were not born in the country and do not have citizenship, they should not be allowed the freedom to be in school. If they become citizens, then it is our responsibility to educate and inform them.

        • ahmed_k_2

          actually teachers care because if there was a undocumented student then that area they live in is usually not very paid well so the teacher would do anything for money so they might get a reward for telling that some kids in her/his class are undocumented or the parents will bribe the teacher to not tell.

        • Jordan_P_1

          Scott, What she’s saying is that they know that you’re there in the classrooms. But they dont know that you’re illegal because they can’t really ask without being criticized for it.

  • Emily W

    Everyone; old, young, rich, or poor should be able to apply for citizenship in the United States. Just because people were born in another country doesn’t mean they aren’t qualified for the same rights as American citizens.

    • Izzy

      Amen.

      • Geoff

        Preach brother, preach.

        • Garrett_P_4

          They ARE able to apply to become a citizen of the United States. Its this cool thing called a Visa. And It is going to take time, like the article said there are a lot of undocumented workers that are wanting to become a citizen. It is a long process and takes time to get done.

          • William

            Well yes they CAN. But in fact a visa does not give them the rights of an American Citizen. Visas really only allow the holder to enter into the country and some allow for employment, but they can’t vote, can’t obtain social security, etc.

          • Megan_D_2

            Garrett, even though it is supposed to take time to receive a visa, it shouldn’t take as long as 13 years for them to have full citizenship in the United States.

    • scott_c_1

      People are able to apply in the US. It takes a few years to get your visa. There are illegal immigrants and undocumented workers living in the United States right now. They are trying to get there visa. They like the way the United states is, and they are going to try to get there citizenship. A lot of people like the way the U.S is. We should allow more people to come and become a citizen

      • Alex_C_3

        I know that legal, illegal immigrants, and undocumented workers are in the America. Also I know they like where their life has taken them, but don’t forget that everything doesn’t last forever. I agree we should let more people in and that may help us, but some of those people may be bad. We could let like maybe 100,00, just an example, immigrants in our country, America, but one thing they should need with them is like a background check.
        What I’m trying to say is that some people are bad in this world and some percent of these crimes that are going on are made by different types of immigrants, legal and illegal. I feel bad that they need help, but they could still survive in their own country. My feeling I would have if I was them is that I would feel grateful that I’m alive and well. Another thing we should consider is maybe why this or that specific immigrant is coming over the border. If they told us their push and pull factors then maybe that could also depend if they’re allowed into the U.S.
        Everything that you have above is correct, and what I’m wondering is what is your solution to immigration? Specifically, what would you do if you had to make laws, a bill, or anything to help our immigration problem?

        • Maya_W__3

          I agree and disagree with Alex_C_3. I agree that more immigrants can help, but watch what you say about them being bad. Yes, it is bad that some are coming illegally, but look around you. Bad people are EVERYWHERE! So many events have been happening just within this month, so we can’t really stop the flow of that. You can pass laws to slow it down, but it is almost impossible to stop. And you said “If they told us their push and pull factors then maybe that could also depend if they’re allowed into the U.S.”- All immigrants are going to have the same push and pull factors, but they will have different reasons for coming to America. Either way, they are going to get through…telling why or not.

      • olivia_m_4

        Scott, you cant just let anyone and everyone come to America. The US will become insanely overpopulated, and then there will barely be anybody in Mexico or wherever else people come from. Yes, the U.S. is a desirable place to live, and it would be nice if we could fit everyone here, but we can’t. As it is now in some states, there aren’t enough resources to fuel our current population. So what will happen in 100 years when we start to run out of jobs for everyone and our resources go down?

    • miriam_p_2

      I agree with Emily. And it shouldn’t take 10 years and have these long processes. If you pledge your rights to this country and take it as your own, you should be able to be a citizen. These immigrants are working here, raising their kids here, and their kids are saying the US pledge with the citizens every single day at school. I think that if they are hardworking individuals with goals, aspirations, and no criminal background, they should be welcome in our country.

      • sameen_j_3

        I agree. After all, passing this bill isn’t going to completely get rid of all the illegal immigrants. In fact, some may not even be motivated to apply for citizenship because the time isn’t worth the ending. It’s way too much time to wait, while they work hard and their kids are going to schools here. They are not allowed to work legally for our country, yet they still have found a way. Who’s to say they won’t find a way around this bill? We should just welcome them with open arms until immigration really becomes an issue, and the population hurts our country.

      • sameen_j_3

        While the bill allows immigrants to become citizens, even if their way of getting here was illegal, it takes too much time to become a citizen. Thirteen years is a long time to wait and to be approved, and not only that, but what about the citizens who came here after the approved date? Those people may have built up their family here. If they aren’t eligible to apply for citizenship, I can’t imagine they are approved to stay in the USA. They will be deported and their family ripped apart. Not only that, but we would be sending many people back home to poverty, while we sit in the US living soft lives with everything we need only minutes away.

  • Emily W

    Everyone; old, young, rich, or poor should be able to apply for citizenship in the United States. Just because people were born in another country doesn’t mean they aren’t qualified for the same rights as American citizens.

    • Izzy

      Amen.

      • Geoff

        Preach brother, preach.

        • Garrett_P_4

          They ARE able to apply to become a citizen of the United States. Its this cool thing called a Visa. And It is going to take time, like the article said there are a lot of undocumented workers that are wanting to become a citizen. It is a long process and takes time to get done.

          • William

            Well yes they CAN. But in fact a visa does not give them the rights of an American Citizen. Visas really only allow the holder to enter into the country and some allow for employment, but they can’t vote, can’t obtain social security, etc.

          • Megan_D_2

            Garrett, even though it is supposed to take time to receive a visa, it shouldn’t take as long as 13 years for them to have full citizenship in the United States.

    • scott_c_1

      People are able to apply in the US. It takes a few years to get your visa. There are illegal immigrants and undocumented workers living in the United States right now. They are trying to get there visa. They like the way the United states is, and they are going to try to get there citizenship. A lot of people like the way the U.S is. We should allow more people to come and become a citizen

      • Alex_C_3

        I know that legal, illegal immigrants, and undocumented workers are in the America. Also I know they like where their life has taken them, but don’t forget that everything doesn’t last forever. I agree we should let more people in and that may help us, but some of those people may be bad. We could let like maybe 100,00, just an example, immigrants in our country, America, but one thing they should need with them is like a background check.
        What I’m trying to say is that some people are bad in this world and some percent of these crimes that are going on are made by different types of immigrants, legal and illegal. I feel bad that they need help, but they could still survive in their own country. My feeling I would have if I was them is that I would feel grateful that I’m alive and well. Another thing we should consider is maybe why this or that specific immigrant is coming over the border. If they told us their push and pull factors then maybe that could also depend if they’re allowed into the U.S.
        Everything that you have above is correct, and what I’m wondering is what is your solution to immigration? Specifically, what would you do if you had to make laws, a bill, or anything to help our immigration problem?

        • Maya_W__3

          I agree and disagree with Alex_C_3. I agree that more immigrants can help, but watch what you say about them being bad. Yes, it is bad that some are coming illegally, but look around you. Bad people are EVERYWHERE! So many events have been happening just within this month, so we can’t really stop the flow of that. You can pass laws to slow it down, but it is almost impossible to stop. And you said “If they told us their push and pull factors then maybe that could also depend if they’re allowed into the U.S.”- All immigrants are going to have the same push and pull factors, but they will have different reasons for coming to America. Either way, they are going to get through…telling why or not.

      • olivia_m_4

        Scott, you cant just let anyone and everyone come to America. The US will become insanely overpopulated, and then there will barely be anybody in Mexico or wherever else people come from. Yes, the U.S. is a desirable place to live, and it would be nice if we could fit everyone here, but we can’t. As it is now in some states, there aren’t enough resources to fuel our current population. So what will happen in 100 years when we start to run out of jobs for everyone and our resources go down?

    • miriam_p_2

      I agree with Emily. And it shouldn’t take 10 years and have these long processes. If you pledge your rights to this country and take it as your own, you should be able to be a citizen. These immigrants are working here, raising their kids here, and their kids are saying the US pledge with the citizens every single day at school. I think that if they are hardworking individuals with goals, aspirations, and no criminal background, they should be welcome in our country.

      • sameen_j_3

        I agree. After all, passing this bill isn’t going to completely get rid of all the illegal immigrants. In fact, some may not even be motivated to apply for citizenship because the time isn’t worth the ending. It’s way too much time to wait, while they work hard and their kids are going to schools here. They are not allowed to work legally for our country, yet they still have found a way. Who’s to say they won’t find a way around this bill? We should just welcome them with open arms until immigration really becomes an issue, and the population hurts our country.

      • sameen_j_3

        While the bill allows immigrants to become citizens, even if their way of getting here was illegal, it takes too much time to become a citizen. Thirteen years is a long time to wait and to be approved, and not only that, but what about the citizens who came here after the approved date? Those people may have built up their family here. If they aren’t eligible to apply for citizenship, I can’t imagine they are approved to stay in the USA. They will be deported and their family ripped apart. Not only that, but we would be sending many people back home to poverty, while we sit in the US living soft lives with everything we need only minutes away.

  • Izzy

    The U.S. is in need of immigration reform – but not for the sake of making it a more exclusive nation. Any potential immigrants willing to undergo the process outlined in the video above should be welcomed into this country. I completely support the portion of this proposal which would allow current illegal immigrants to acquire citizenship as well as the increase in visas for highly skilled workers and other non-agricultural workers. We do not, however, need increased border security. If legal immigration is made easier there is no practical reason for greater security. We have a social responsibility to welcome and accept those seeking asylum and opportunity in the United States. We should feel honored rather than appalled that so many aspire to become a part of this nation.

    • Rebekah_W_2

      I agree that we should not be appalled, instead honored of the large amount of people wanting to join our nation, but on security…It’s amazing that we are even willing to put ourselves even more in debt, just to increase security on borders, when we know that illegal immigrants will find some way to get over them anyway. Yes, we ‘shouldn’t’ increase security, but we need to remember it’s not just illegal immigrants going across the border, its drugs and other hazards towards our country as well.

      • Abbie McGill

        I agree that the US should be more willing and “honored” that a mass amount of immigrants want to come into this country to better their lives and their family life, but is it fair to all of the people living in the US to suffer from over population and the ramifications that will result from that? I think that the border should be more secure so people cannot find loopholes to come into the country illegally, but alas the path to citizenship should be more accessible and efficient. In order to accomodate future citizens and to insure peace amongst people already in the US, we need to make it fair for ALL parties, not just the minorities, immigrants, ect.

  • Izzy

    The U.S. is in need of immigration reform – but not for the sake of making it a more exclusive nation. Any potential immigrants willing to undergo the process outlined in the video above should be welcomed into this country. I completely support the portion of this proposal which would allow current illegal immigrants to acquire citizenship as well as the increase in visas for highly skilled workers and other non-agricultural workers. We do not, however, need increased border security. If legal immigration is made easier there is no practical reason for greater security. We have a social responsibility to welcome and accept those seeking asylum and opportunity in the United States. We should feel honored rather than appalled that so many aspire to become a part of this nation.

    • Rebekah_W_2

      I agree that we should not be appalled, instead honored of the large amount of people wanting to join our nation, but on security…It’s amazing that we are even willing to put ourselves even more in debt, just to increase security on borders, when we know that illegal immigrants will find some way to get over them anyway. Yes, we ‘shouldn’t’ increase security, but we need to remember it’s not just illegal immigrants going across the border, its drugs and other hazards towards our country as well.

      • Abbie McGill

        I agree that the US should be more willing and “honored” that a mass amount of immigrants want to come into this country to better their lives and their family life, but is it fair to all of the people living in the US to suffer from over population and the ramifications that will result from that? I think that the border should be more secure so people cannot find loopholes to come into the country illegally, but alas the path to citizenship should be more accessible and efficient. In order to accomodate future citizens and to insure peace amongst people already in the US, we need to make it fair for ALL parties, not just the minorities, immigrants, ect.

  • Other Emily W

    If someone has a kid in America they should be able to stay in America with their citizen child :)

    • alex

      i dont agree be cause that wouldn’t do any good be cause all the immigrants with kids would get to stay and that means every one with a kid should just be able to go back and forth across the boarder when they want.

      • Tori_H_4

        I agree with Alex. If we just allow every immigrant with a child to stay in the US, people may start coming here and having a kid(s) that they don’t even want, which isn’t fair to the child or the immigrants who work hard to get here legally on a citizenship or Visa.

    • Joseph_T_1

      I agree with this Other Emily W. I think that if you have a kid in america, you should be able to stay in america. But if they were going to stay with their kid, they should have to work hard to get a citizenship.

    • Noah_G_2

      I agree with Other Emily W’s response. If someone has a kid within the US borders and that child is an American citizen, they should not separate the family or force the child that is a legal citizen out of the country.

    • Jordan_P_1

      This is a problem that shouldn’t be about if you broke the law or not. Its just a human thing. You can’t split a family thats just not right

      • Drew_O_1

        I agree with Emily because what is the point of letting a two year old child stay in America if their parents are in another country its not like will be able to provide for themselves. Besides the parents aren’t going to want to let there child stay in America alone so if they don’t have any legal relatives they will probably take their child with them back to their home land making the law pointless.

    • Anthony Martinez

      I agree with Emily because statistics say most children with the absence of one parent are usually more likely to develop many types of addictions. And if we were to legalize more parents there might be a considerable drop in drug use in your local school.

    • Taylor _W_4

      I agree with Emily’s comment and with what Drew said, if a child is left there without a place to go. The only option for him/her would to be to stay at a foster home which would be wrong knowing that there is a caring parent out there to take care of them. If the child were born from an illegal immigrant in the U.S I don’t think a citizenship would come with that because that would be just a cheep or planned out way of staying in the U.S. So therefore this problem could not happen.

  • Other Emily W

    If someone has a kid in America they should be able to stay in America with their citizen child :)

    • alex

      i dont agree be cause that wouldn’t do any good be cause all the immigrants with kids would get to stay and that means every one with a kid should just be able to go back and forth across the boarder when they want.

      • Tori_H_4

        I agree with Alex. If we just allow every immigrant with a child to stay in the US, people may start coming here and having a kid(s) that they don’t even want, which isn’t fair to the child or the immigrants who work hard to get here legally on a citizenship or Visa.

    • Joseph_T_1

      I agree with this Other Emily W. I think that if you have a kid in america, you should be able to stay in america. But if they were going to stay with their kid, they should have to work hard to get a citizenship.

    • Noah_G_2

      I agree with Other Emily W’s response. If someone has a kid within the US borders and that child is an American citizen, they should not separate the family or force the child that is a legal citizen out of the country.

    • Jordan_P_1

      This is a problem that shouldn’t be about if you broke the law or not. Its just a human thing. You can’t split a family thats just not right

      • Drew_O_1

        I agree with Emily because what is the point of letting a two year old child stay in America if their parents are in another country its not like will be able to provide for themselves. Besides the parents aren’t going to want to let there child stay in America alone so if they don’t have any legal relatives they will probably take their child with them back to their home land making the law pointless.

    • Anthony Martinez

      I agree with Emily because statistics say most children with the absence of one parent are usually more likely to develop many types of addictions. And if we were to legalize more parents there might be a considerable drop in drug use in your local school.

    • Taylor _W_4

      I agree with Emily’s comment and with what Drew said, if a child is left there without a place to go. The only option for him/her would to be to stay at a foster home which would be wrong knowing that there is a caring parent out there to take care of them. If the child were born from an illegal immigrant in the U.S I don’t think a citizenship would come with that because that would be just a cheep or planned out way of staying in the U.S. So therefore this problem could not happen.

  • Evan Freeman

    I think what the thing was em- placed about for illegal immigrants to become legal ones, and also what just happened in Boston this past week, showed us that we should do is that to teach new imported child to speak English, and also how great United States is wonderful place to live at!#KQEDdonow @rapoch

  • Evan Freeman

    I think what the thing was em- placed about for illegal immigrants to become legal ones, and also what just happened in Boston this past week, showed us that we should do is that to teach new imported child to speak English, and also how great United States is wonderful place to live at!#KQEDdonow @rapoch

  • Rebekah

    I doubt just because this bill states “…employers who hire undocumented workers will be prosecuted.”, that people will stop hiring them. Americans tend to do a lot of compromising, yet never directly fix the problem. To my understanding, all this bill is stating is that they are going to ‘try’ and make legalizing easier and a faster process. But how likely is it that this will actually take action? In my opinion, not likely.

    • Julianne_G_3

      I agree. People do things against the law all the time and this definitely isnt something people will care about. I have a feeling most police wont care about it either. They only look for things that they think is important and im pretty sure most police wont think its important. Even if they do, most illegal immigrants do quick jobs that you get payed for in cash. If people are willing to break the law to do drugs and steal then I am pretty sure they are willing to break the law to hire a cheap employee. I agree with you about them trying. They can try all we want, but i dont care about trying. I care about your success. And in the bill they don’t even talk about what they are going to do with the current illegal immigrants. Even if the citizen legalization proccess becomes shorter people will still continue to be impatient and come illegally. What are we going to do with them? Are we going to give them citizenship easily even though they broke multiple laws? How is that fair to people who are patiently waiting for citizenship? I think the bill is making progress in the US but we still have a lot to figure and achieve before this problem can be forgotten.

  • Rebekah

    I doubt just because this bill states “…employers who hire undocumented workers will be prosecuted.”, that people will stop hiring them. Americans tend to do a lot of compromising, yet never directly fix the problem. To my understanding, all this bill is stating is that they are going to ‘try’ and make legalizing easier and a faster process. But how likely is it that this will actually take action? In my opinion, not likely.

    • Julianne_G_3

      I agree. People do things against the law all the time and this definitely isnt something people will care about. I have a feeling most police wont care about it either. They only look for things that they think is important and im pretty sure most police wont think its important. Even if they do, most illegal immigrants do quick jobs that you get payed for in cash. If people are willing to break the law to do drugs and steal then I am pretty sure they are willing to break the law to hire a cheap employee. I agree with you about them trying. They can try all we want, but i dont care about trying. I care about your success. And in the bill they don’t even talk about what they are going to do with the current illegal immigrants. Even if the citizen legalization proccess becomes shorter people will still continue to be impatient and come illegally. What are we going to do with them? Are we going to give them citizenship easily even though they broke multiple laws? How is that fair to people who are patiently waiting for citizenship? I think the bill is making progress in the US but we still have a lot to figure and achieve before this problem can be forgotten.

  • Sam Stevens

    I don’t think Obama should be running our country. He is destroying our country and making it more Socialist which is against my beliefs and most of the people I know. I also think all should be able to apply to become a citizen of the United States.

    • Katherine Moser

      Although I respect your right to have an opinion, I believe you are severely wrong. First, how is he “destroying our country?” Unless you have some specific reasons why you believe this with factual evidence to back it up besides your own beliefs, I highly suggest you reconsider. Here is a list of Obama’s accomplishments during his presidency for you to read over: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_2012/features/obamas_top_50_accomplishments035755.php.
      Second, Obama is not socialist at all, and when evaluated by political scientists on the political compass, he is actually more conservative in views and comes close to Romney on the right (http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012).
      Third, this bill may not be perfect and somewhat lengthy for the path to citizenship, but for now it is a good start and compromise. Much more is still to be done.

    • Daniel

      Even though your beliefs, and the beliefs of your friends don’t match up with those of our president, at least 50% of Americans liked President Obama enough to give him a second term in the White House. I also don’t understand how you can seem to hate Obama (and probably other American staples like Apple Pie, Bacon, and Freedom), yet believe that everybody should be able to become an American citizen. In case you didn’t know Obama has been all for allowing everybody to become American citizens since his initial days in office.

    • William

      Although you have a right to your opinions, I believe you have been receiving false information from these people you know. If by destroying you mean working his butt off to help the American people? Then yes he is “destroying our country”. As Katherine has stated, Obama has been rated as a more conservative president. Even if Obama wanted to make our country more socialist, the Republican House of Representatives would never let him. If you think it’s Obama’s fault for our recession, think again to our last president and the war we have been struggling to get out of…

  • Sam Stevens

    I don’t think Obama should be running our country. He is destroying our country and making it more Socialist which is against my beliefs and most of the people I know. I also think all should be able to apply to become a citizen of the United States.

    • Katherine Moser

      Although I respect your right to have an opinion, I believe you are severely wrong. First, how is he “destroying our country?” Unless you have some specific reasons why you believe this with factual evidence to back it up besides your own beliefs, I highly suggest you reconsider. Here is a list of Obama’s accomplishments during his presidency for you to read over: http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/magazine/march_april_2012/features/obamas_top_50_accomplishments035755.php.
      Second, Obama is not socialist at all, and when evaluated by political scientists on the political compass, he is actually more conservative in views and comes close to Romney on the right (http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012).
      Third, this bill may not be perfect and somewhat lengthy for the path to citizenship, but for now it is a good start and compromise. Much more is still to be done.

    • Daniel

      Even though your beliefs, and the beliefs of your friends don’t match up with those of our president, at least 50% of Americans liked President Obama enough to give him a second term in the White House. I also don’t understand how you can seem to hate Obama (and probably other American staples like Apple Pie, Bacon, and Freedom), yet believe that everybody should be able to become an American citizen. In case you didn’t know Obama has been all for allowing everybody to become American citizens since his initial days in office.

    • William

      Although you have a right to your opinions, I believe you have been receiving false information from these people you know. If by destroying you mean working his butt off to help the American people? Then yes he is “destroying our country”. As Katherine has stated, Obama has been rated as a more conservative president. Even if Obama wanted to make our country more socialist, the Republican House of Representatives would never let him. If you think it’s Obama’s fault for our recession, think again to our last president and the war we have been struggling to get out of…

  • Julia Lipply

    I think anyone who meets the requirements and stipulations should be able to apply for citizenship. However, people could take advantage of this so the border patrol needs to continue to be strict and secure.

    • miriam_p_2

      I agree. We shouldnt let people who will harm our country in our borders. However, if you meet good requirements and do not have a criminal background and want to WORK in the United States, it should be much easier for people to apply for green cards and citizenship.

      • alex

        i agree with both of you there is finally someone who thinks this too.

    • Nicholas_B_4

      I agree with this, people who are willing and able to immigrate into the United States, SHOULD be allowed too, its the most logical and reasonable thing to do.

  • Julia Lipply

    I think anyone who meets the requirements and stipulations should be able to apply for citizenship. However, people could take advantage of this so the border patrol needs to continue to be strict and secure.

    • miriam_p_2

      I agree. We shouldnt let people who will harm our country in our borders. However, if you meet good requirements and do not have a criminal background and want to WORK in the United States, it should be much easier for people to apply for green cards and citizenship.

      • alex

        i agree with both of you there is finally someone who thinks this too.

    • Nicholas_B_4

      I agree with this, people who are willing and able to immigrate into the United States, SHOULD be allowed too, its the most logical and reasonable thing to do.

  • J-dog

    I feel as if everybody should be able to apply for jobs and express their culture in America whether or not they’re from out of the country. Of course we should take cautions into which people we let come in or not, but at the same time everybody deserves a new start or new opportunities and America is the perfect place to start them. I agree with this bill.

  • J-dog

    I feel as if everybody should be able to apply for jobs and express their culture in America whether or not they’re from out of the country. Of course we should take cautions into which people we let come in or not, but at the same time everybody deserves a new start or new opportunities and America is the perfect place to start them. I agree with this bill.

  • Lauren

    I think this bill is a step in the right direction because the United States is definitely in of immigration reform. There are some good and some bad aspects to this bill. The time span that this bill stretches over is too long. I think the process should be sped up a little. Obtaining a green card should be easier and this bill is a little too strict.

    • Allison_C_3

      I agree with the second part of what you said. It should be sped up because it’s keeping people away longer than they need or should be. It shouldn’t be as strict but also faster.

    • scott_c_1

      I agree with you Lauren. The process of getting you’re green card should be sped up. Illegal immigrants are usually hard workers and do the jobs that most Americans wouldn’t want to do. This is why the process should be sped up.

  • Lauren

    I think this bill is a step in the right direction because the United States is definitely in of immigration reform. There are some good and some bad aspects to this bill. The time span that this bill stretches over is too long. I think the process should be sped up a little. Obtaining a green card should be easier and this bill is a little too strict.

    • Allison_C_3

      I agree with the second part of what you said. It should be sped up because it’s keeping people away longer than they need or should be. It shouldn’t be as strict but also faster.

    • scott_c_1

      I agree with you Lauren. The process of getting you’re green card should be sped up. Illegal immigrants are usually hard workers and do the jobs that most Americans wouldn’t want to do. This is why the process should be sped up.

  • Kameron E.

    I think everyone should have a right to apply, and I don’t agree with how this bill enables people to become citizens.

    • Joseph_T_1

      If you think that everyone has the right to apply to be a citizen, why would you say that you dont agree with the bill that enables them to become citizens?

  • Kameron E.

    I think everyone should have a right to apply, and I don’t agree with how this bill enables people to become citizens.

    • Joseph_T_1

      If you think that everyone has the right to apply to be a citizen, why would you say that you dont agree with the bill that enables them to become citizens?

  • Amber

    I think everyone should be able to apply for citizenship in the United States. Just because people were born in another country doesn’t mean they aren’t qualified for the same rights as American citizens. Everyone is always saying how the US is so nice. Well not letting people have a chance to become one of us, is not very nice. I say give them a shot, if they don’t pass then kick them out.

    • Nick M

      Everyone deserves the opportunity, true, but it’s not so easy as just giving them a shot and kicking them out “if they don’t pass”. There are many tests we as American citizens would not pass, but unfortunately, it is near impossible to accurately evaluate whether or not a person would be a good American citizen. All people are qualified for the same rights as American citizens, but we struggle as it is maintaining the rights of American citizens. Resources are not unlimited, and the truth to the matter is, the only way to give everyone in this world equal rights is to force others who have more than they need to give up what they have. Until we do that, the world will never be completely equal, as much as I believe it truly should be.

    • Ishue_G_2

      Amber- I agree with you. Everyone should have the right to apply but there has to be a certain criteria to maintain order. I’m sure you wouldn’t want a criminal to become a citizen and cause more problem than there already is. You would rather want a person who cares more about the country and its rule to becomes a part of our country. America is the country of many opportunities and equal rights. We need to keep our standards high so we can maintain that name.

      • Drew_O_1

        I agree with Ishue, if we just let anyone come into America just because its “nice” it could destroy America. What if a bunch of criminals and terrorists do come to America they could easily tear us apart from within, and by then kicking them out will serve no purpose.

  • Amber

    I think everyone should be able to apply for citizenship in the United States. Just because people were born in another country doesn’t mean they aren’t qualified for the same rights as American citizens. Everyone is always saying how the US is so nice. Well not letting people have a chance to become one of us, is not very nice. I say give them a shot, if they don’t pass then kick them out.

    • Nick M

      Everyone deserves the opportunity, true, but it’s not so easy as just giving them a shot and kicking them out “if they don’t pass”. There are many tests we as American citizens would not pass, but unfortunately, it is near impossible to accurately evaluate whether or not a person would be a good American citizen. All people are qualified for the same rights as American citizens, but we struggle as it is maintaining the rights of American citizens. Resources are not unlimited, and the truth to the matter is, the only way to give everyone in this world equal rights is to force others who have more than they need to give up what they have. Until we do that, the world will never be completely equal, as much as I believe it truly should be.

    • Ishue_G_2

      Amber- I agree with you. Everyone should have the right to apply but there has to be a certain criteria to maintain order. I’m sure you wouldn’t want a criminal to become a citizen and cause more problem than there already is. You would rather want a person who cares more about the country and its rule to becomes a part of our country. America is the country of many opportunities and equal rights. We need to keep our standards high so we can maintain that name.

      • Drew_O_1

        I agree with Ishue, if we just let anyone come into America just because its “nice” it could destroy America. What if a bunch of criminals and terrorists do come to America they could easily tear us apart from within, and by then kicking them out will serve no purpose.

  • Cesar Q

    I think as long as people follow the laws and meet the requirements they should be able to apply for citizenship.

  • Cesar Q

    I think as long as people follow the laws and meet the requirements they should be able to apply for citizenship.

  • M.O.

    I believe that everyone should be able to apply for this but, I don’t think this bill will really make that much of a difference. There will still be illegal immigrants and I think this bill will actually cause more of an issue. Immigrants aren’t going to really want to pay 500 or so dollars unless they really, really want to live here. The border needs to still be protected more seriously.

    • miriam_p_2

      I disagree. Immigrants pay over $3,000 dollars to smugglers to just get INTO this country. $500 so they can apply for citizenship? They’d do it with their eyes closed. The bill should secure our borders and let the undocumented workers ALREADY in the United States to apply for the bill.

  • M.O.

    I believe that everyone should be able to apply for this but, I don’t think this bill will really make that much of a difference. There will still be illegal immigrants and I think this bill will actually cause more of an issue. Immigrants aren’t going to really want to pay 500 or so dollars unless they really, really want to live here. The border needs to still be protected more seriously.

    • miriam_p_2

      I disagree. Immigrants pay over $3,000 dollars to smugglers to just get INTO this country. $500 so they can apply for citizenship? They’d do it with their eyes closed. The bill should secure our borders and let the undocumented workers ALREADY in the United States to apply for the bill.

  • Brandi

    I think that people who meet the requirements to be able to become a citizen should be allowed to become one. If people were to take this out of control and too far, that the border control will still have to stay strict.

  • Brandi

    I think that people who meet the requirements to be able to become a citizen should be allowed to become one. If people were to take this out of control and too far, that the border control will still have to stay strict.

  • April

    I feel that this legislation is a step towards finding a way to prevent illegal immigrants from illegally crossing the border. I don’t believe in all the arguments in this legislation, but I feel that applying for citizenship is very important, and that companies should be punished for hiring undocumented illegal immigrants. I feel that anyone should be able to apply here, but they must follow certain requirements. I feel that our first act of legislation in this process is to make English the first language, so that all people should learn the language when they come here, because I feel that it is an important aspect in this country.

  • April

    I feel that this legislation is a step towards finding a way to prevent illegal immigrants from illegally crossing the border. I don’t believe in all the arguments in this legislation, but I feel that applying for citizenship is very important, and that companies should be punished for hiring undocumented illegal immigrants. I feel that anyone should be able to apply here, but they must follow certain requirements. I feel that our first act of legislation in this process is to make English the first language, so that all people should learn the language when they come here, because I feel that it is an important aspect in this country.

  • Rolando

    I agree with the proposed immigration reform bill. This is a great opportunity for many families and young kids to have a successful future. It will open up many opportunity for millions of people and it’ll create a more unified nation. Although I agree with this bill, I also think that this bill should be granted to those with people with no criminal record or only minor offenses.

  • Rolando

    I agree with the proposed immigration reform bill. This is a great opportunity for many families and young kids to have a successful future. It will open up many opportunity for millions of people and it’ll create a more unified nation. Although I agree with this bill, I also think that this bill should be granted to those with people with no criminal record or only minor offenses.

  • Kristi

    I think that everyone should get a chance for this bill, but I also think its unfair to some people that have been here for so long and they have been waiting for something like this. I think that people that have been here for like 15-20 years or more should only get this bill and its important to check their records to.

    • Maya_W__3

      I agree with you Kristi. Some undocumented workers have been waiting for something like this to come around and yet the government will probably skip over them. They shouldn’t have a first come-first serve basis. They should document who was here the longest and those are the ones who should become citizens first if they really want it. If they come here and don’t want to accept this opportunity then they need to be forced out.

  • Kristi

    I think that everyone should get a chance for this bill, but I also think its unfair to some people that have been here for so long and they have been waiting for something like this. I think that people that have been here for like 15-20 years or more should only get this bill and its important to check their records to.

    • Maya_W__3

      I agree with you Kristi. Some undocumented workers have been waiting for something like this to come around and yet the government will probably skip over them. They shouldn’t have a first come-first serve basis. They should document who was here the longest and those are the ones who should become citizens first if they really want it. If they come here and don’t want to accept this opportunity then they need to be forced out.

  • Alex

    People who come to the USA from Honduras or Central America are usually here to work hard so then can take care of there family’s. Those people should have the right to be come American Citizens.

    • scott_c_1

      I agree with you’re statement. People that tend to come to America illegally, are usually the ones who work the hardest. Those people do the jobs that other people wouldn’t want to do. That’s why they should get there citizen ship.

    • Luke_H_1

      Alex, I know it is hard to not show compassion for these illegal immigrants who are working hard for their families, but they are not benefiting the U.S. with their hard work. You are correct that they work extremely hard, but how is this hard work helping the United States? Many of these immigrants send the money back to their home countries instead of feeding into the American economy. Illegal immigration would not be a problem if the immigrants showed any interest in benefiting the U.S. The population of America is growing, but there is no money to go along with it. The borders need to be stronger. It should be difficult for illegal immigrants to gain citizenship. Funding for programs and education is decreasing very considerably. The economy is crashing. These immigrants are taking a toll on the nation.

      • Joel

        I take issue with your assertion that they are not benefitting the US with their hard work. Immigrants work in many jobs that ordinary Americans would rather not do — mostly minimum wage jobs in agriculture and production. In fact, this recent article from the NYTimes asserts that if we kicked out the immigrants our economy would crumble:

        http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/08/17/could-farms-survive-without-illegal-labor/without-immigrant-labor-the-economy-would-crumble

      • arthi_t_1

        Luke: I agree with you wholeheartedly when you say that this hard work does not help the United States from an economic standpoint. Emotions aside, illegal immigrants who do not pay taxes and contribute to the nation are a drain, sucking money out of the US and pumping it into their homeland. However, it’s important to note that illegal immigrants are NOT the cause of the recession, and there’s an excessive amount of blame being placed on them– in other words, illegal immigrants seem to be the automatic scapegoats of today’s society, blamed for the recession, the economy, jobs. The only part of your comment that I don’t agree with is the idea that granting citizenship to undocumented workers should be made difficult. I’m a little disturbed by this: not only is it going against what this country needs, it’s also more than a bit inhumane.
        The reason funding for programs and education is decreasing is because of the recession. And you know what would help get us back up on our feet? More workers. More workers means more jobs, which means more taxes, which means a more stimulated economy. See, by legalizing the 11 million illegals in the country right now, we are guaranteed 11 million more taxpayers, helping the economy. Also, if this bill is enacted, we would see less illegal immigrants, more taxpayers, and money to go along with the increased population. Senator Schumer was very correct in saying that the bill proposed a “common sense solution to legal immigration.”So to correct your very last statement to something a bit more accurate: These illegal immigrants are taking a toll on the nation, but documented immigrants are helping it.

        • Joel

          Arthi, that’s a really good point about the benefits of legalizing undocumented workers. I would also like to add that while an undocumented worker might get paid off the books and not contribute payroll taxes (I’m wondering if that’s true in every case), he or she still pays sales tax. Also, I think your choice of words in describing the flow of funds outside the US is a bit too strong.

    • Sai_S_1

      Alex, I would say that I agree with this statement, but when you said that they are from Honduras or Central America, it made me change my mind. Sure the people from Central America are very hard working, but people that come from other countries illegally work just as hard. Just because many of the seen immigrants are from Central America, doesn’t mean that they are the only ones that work really hard in one day. There are people from other countries that come here legally or illegally that work just as hard as them. You can’t just single out a certain amount of people to get their citizenship either, there are people who have been in the United States longer than them that deserve to have their green card and their citizenship. We can’t be racist against other people from other countries and accept only a few people to be accepted as citizens.

  • Alex

    People who come to the USA from Honduras or Central America are usually here to work hard so then can take care of there family’s. Those people should have the right to be come American Citizens.

    • scott_c_1

      I agree with you’re statement. People that tend to come to America illegally, are usually the ones who work the hardest. Those people do the jobs that other people wouldn’t want to do. That’s why they should get there citizen ship.

    • Luke_H_1

      Alex, I know it is hard to not show compassion for these illegal immigrants who are working hard for their families, but they are not benefiting the U.S. with their hard work. You are correct that they work extremely hard, but how is this hard work helping the United States? Many of these immigrants send the money back to their home countries instead of feeding into the American economy. Illegal immigration would not be a problem if the immigrants showed any interest in benefiting the U.S. The population of America is growing, but there is no money to go along with it. The borders need to be stronger. It should be difficult for illegal immigrants to gain citizenship. Funding for programs and education is decreasing very considerably. The economy is crashing. These immigrants are taking a toll on the nation.

      • Joel

        I take issue with your assertion that they are not benefitting the US with their hard work. Immigrants work in many jobs that ordinary Americans would rather not do — mostly minimum wage jobs in agriculture and production. In fact, this recent article from the NYTimes asserts that if we kicked out the immigrants our economy would crumble:

        http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2011/08/17/could-farms-survive-without-illegal-labor/without-immigrant-labor-the-economy-would-crumble

      • arthi_t_1

        Luke: I agree with you wholeheartedly when you say that this hard work does not help the United States from an economic standpoint. Emotions aside, illegal immigrants who do not pay taxes and contribute to the nation are a drain, sucking money out of the US and pumping it into their homeland. However, it’s important to note that illegal immigrants are NOT the cause of the recession, and there’s an excessive amount of blame being placed on them– in other words, illegal immigrants seem to be the automatic scapegoats of today’s society, blamed for the recession, the economy, jobs. The only part of your comment that I don’t agree with is the idea that granting citizenship to undocumented workers should be made difficult. I’m a little disturbed by this: not only is it going against what this country needs, it’s also more than a bit inhumane.
        The reason funding for programs and education is decreasing is because of the recession. And you know what would help get us back up on our feet? More workers. More workers means more jobs, which means more taxes, which means a more stimulated economy. See, by legalizing the 11 million illegals in the country right now, we are guaranteed 11 million more taxpayers, helping the economy. Also, if this bill is enacted, we would see less illegal immigrants, more taxpayers, and money to go along with the increased population. Senator Schumer was very correct in saying that the bill proposed a “common sense solution to legal immigration.”So to correct your very last statement to something a bit more accurate: These illegal immigrants are taking a toll on the nation, but documented immigrants are helping it.

        • Joel

          Arthi, that’s a really good point about the benefits of legalizing undocumented workers. I would also like to add that while an undocumented worker might get paid off the books and not contribute payroll taxes (I’m wondering if that’s true in every case), he or she still pays sales tax. Also, I think your choice of words in describing the flow of funds outside the US is a bit too strong.

    • Sai_S_1

      Alex, I would say that I agree with this statement, but when you said that they are from Honduras or Central America, it made me change my mind. Sure the people from Central America are very hard working, but people that come from other countries illegally work just as hard. Just because many of the seen immigrants are from Central America, doesn’t mean that they are the only ones that work really hard in one day. There are people from other countries that come here legally or illegally that work just as hard as them. You can’t just single out a certain amount of people to get their citizenship either, there are people who have been in the United States longer than them that deserve to have their green card and their citizenship. We can’t be racist against other people from other countries and accept only a few people to be accepted as citizens.

  • M.O.

    I agree with April. Companies that have hired illegal immigrants should be punished and that people should learn the English language right when they come here.

    • IRomano

      The United States has no official language. English is merely the most widely spoken. Companies are hiring illegal immigrants because they are willing to work in menial, low paying positions – unlike many Americans who seem to have quite a superiority complex. Illegal immigrants come to America to better their lives, and in that sense alone, they are Americans. An illegal immigrant who works hard to put food on the table for his family – who may or may not speak English – is more American than a white, English speaking person who refuses to work a job which he considers below him. Companies exploit job seeking illegal immigrants by paying them less than minimum wage, not the opposite.

  • M.O.

    I agree with April. Companies that have hired illegal immigrants should be punished and that people should learn the English language right when they come here.

    • IRomano

      The United States has no official language. English is merely the most widely spoken. Companies are hiring illegal immigrants because they are willing to work in menial, low paying positions – unlike many Americans who seem to have quite a superiority complex. Illegal immigrants come to America to better their lives, and in that sense alone, they are Americans. An illegal immigrant who works hard to put food on the table for his family – who may or may not speak English – is more American than a white, English speaking person who refuses to work a job which he considers below him. Companies exploit job seeking illegal immigrants by paying them less than minimum wage, not the opposite.

  • Auston

    I believe that this bill is good for america because they are already here so might as well make them citizens and it would be better for current U.S. citizens to have stricter border control standards.

    • Samantha_F_3

      But what about the fact that they came here illegally? And some don’t even want to be US citizens. They are just coming here in order to make a profit to sustain a family back home. I do agree that this bill is good, but there are still down sides. Strict border controls will help with the problem, but that isn’t a solution. People will still find ways to come to this country illegally, and legalizing many who came illegally will just encourage more people to immigrate illegally.

  • Auston

    I believe that this bill is good for america because they are already here so might as well make them citizens and it would be better for current U.S. citizens to have stricter border control standards.

    • Samantha_F_3

      But what about the fact that they came here illegally? And some don’t even want to be US citizens. They are just coming here in order to make a profit to sustain a family back home. I do agree that this bill is good, but there are still down sides. Strict border controls will help with the problem, but that isn’t a solution. People will still find ways to come to this country illegally, and legalizing many who came illegally will just encourage more people to immigrate illegally.

  • Ramon Luna

    This is really a big step and a good one. Sure the time is a little long but I think people will make do as long as they filter out the unlawful people, if that makes sence

  • Ramon Luna

    This is really a big step and a good one. Sure the time is a little long but I think people will make do as long as they filter out the unlawful people, if that makes sence

  • Maggie Jablinski

    I think that while America does need immigration reform, I can’t say that I completely agree with this bill. I think that ten years for a green card, along with the additional three for citizenship, is far too long for immigrants to wait. That is too long for these people to pay into the system and not reap many of the benefits that come to citizens. These people come to America for a better life, they fill many of the jobs many Americans don’t want to do. However, even though there are some things about this new bill that I oppose, I think that it will better what is in place now.

  • Maggie Jablinski

    I think that while America does need immigration reform, I can’t say that I completely agree with this bill. I think that ten years for a green card, along with the additional three for citizenship, is far too long for immigrants to wait. That is too long for these people to pay into the system and not reap many of the benefits that come to citizens. These people come to America for a better life, they fill many of the jobs many Americans don’t want to do. However, even though there are some things about this new bill that I oppose, I think that it will better what is in place now.

  • Maggie Jablinski

    I think that while America does need immigration reform, I can’t say that I completely agree with this bill. I think that ten years for a green card, along with the additional three for citizenship, is far too long for immigrants to wait. That is too long for these people to pay into the system and not reap many of the benefits that come to citizens. These people come to America for a better life, they fill many of the jobs many Americans don’t want to do. However, even though there are some things about this new bill that I oppose, I think that it will better what is in place now. #KQEDdonow @rapoch

    • Samantha_F_3

      Maggie, I completely agree that waiting 10 years is too long! The article states, “To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years,” (Einhorn). When you hear things like this you understand why people come here illegally! The “solution” for that is to strengthen the borders but there will still be ways people will get in to this country illegally. Many of them don’t want to have to stay for 10 years, they just want to come over for a year or so to make enough money to support their family back home. My solution is maybe not only make citizenship easier to attain, but work permits too.

  • Maggie Jablinski

    I think that while America does need immigration reform, I can’t say that I completely agree with this bill. I think that ten years for a green card, along with the additional three for citizenship, is far too long for immigrants to wait. That is too long for these people to pay into the system and not reap many of the benefits that come to citizens. These people come to America for a better life, they fill many of the jobs many Americans don’t want to do. However, even though there are some things about this new bill that I oppose, I think that it will better what is in place now. #KQEDdonow @rapoch

    • Samantha_F_3

      Maggie, I completely agree that waiting 10 years is too long! The article states, “To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years,” (Einhorn). When you hear things like this you understand why people come here illegally! The “solution” for that is to strengthen the borders but there will still be ways people will get in to this country illegally. Many of them don’t want to have to stay for 10 years, they just want to come over for a year or so to make enough money to support their family back home. My solution is maybe not only make citizenship easier to attain, but work permits too.

  • Samuel K.

    Talking about immigration can be very tough. There are so many different view points and no one wants to bend. I personally think it comes down to basic human rights. Just because I was born in a country where there is a lot of opportunity for success doesn’t mean that someone born in another country deserves any less opportunity. I’m not saying “just let ‘em in.” I’m saying don’t deny people at least a chance for a better life.

    • Daniel

      I agree with this statement, because it is a fair way to think, no matter where you are from. Giving people a fair shot at bettering themselves is a right that should be afforded to all people, regardless of where they come from. I don’t like how this bill in a way gives visas out depending on the profession you plan on working in. What the bill seems to do is not allow advancement from the position you are already in, which sounds like someone who comes to work in a minimum wage job can’t better themselves by moving to desk job if possible. this seems to be unfair, and I believe that portion of the bill could be changed in some way or another.

    • Samantha_F_3

      You are so right. A person is a person no matter where they were born and we should all be allowed the same rights! In my opinion, there should be an easier way for people to come and take use of the opportunities we have here without having to be a US citizen. I agree that illegal immigration is bad and needs to be stopped or at least slowed down, but there are many people who would come here legally on work permits if there were more easily attained. This bill is working to be balanced for democrats and republicans, but those are only two “opinions” on what needs to happen. As you said, there are so many different points of view and only two of those are being pleased by this bill. By making illegal immigrants that came here by December 31 2011 legal, they are only encouraging more people to come here illegally. If it was easier for them to come here legally for a temporary amount of time, less people would immigrate illegally!

  • Samuel K.

    Talking about immigration can be very tough. There are so many different view points and no one wants to bend. I personally think it comes down to basic human rights. Just because I was born in a country where there is a lot of opportunity for success doesn’t mean that someone born in another country deserves any less opportunity. I’m not saying “just let ‘em in.” I’m saying don’t deny people at least a chance for a better life.

    • Daniel

      I agree with this statement, because it is a fair way to think, no matter where you are from. Giving people a fair shot at bettering themselves is a right that should be afforded to all people, regardless of where they come from. I don’t like how this bill in a way gives visas out depending on the profession you plan on working in. What the bill seems to do is not allow advancement from the position you are already in, which sounds like someone who comes to work in a minimum wage job can’t better themselves by moving to desk job if possible. this seems to be unfair, and I believe that portion of the bill could be changed in some way or another.

    • Samantha_F_3

      You are so right. A person is a person no matter where they were born and we should all be allowed the same rights! In my opinion, there should be an easier way for people to come and take use of the opportunities we have here without having to be a US citizen. I agree that illegal immigration is bad and needs to be stopped or at least slowed down, but there are many people who would come here legally on work permits if there were more easily attained. This bill is working to be balanced for democrats and republicans, but those are only two “opinions” on what needs to happen. As you said, there are so many different points of view and only two of those are being pleased by this bill. By making illegal immigrants that came here by December 31 2011 legal, they are only encouraging more people to come here illegally. If it was easier for them to come here legally for a temporary amount of time, less people would immigrate illegally!

  • Samuel K.

    Talking about immigration can be very tough. There are so many different view points and no one wants to bend. I personally think it comes down to basic human rights. Just because I was born in a country where there is a lot of opportunity for success doesn’t mean that someone born in another country deserves any less opportunity. I’m not saying “just let ‘em in.” I’m saying don’t deny people at least a chance for a better life.
    #KQEDdonow
    @Rapoch

    • Drew_O_1

      I agree with Samuel, What exactly happened to The land of the free. If anyone remembers we are all technically immigrants even if you are 1/16 Cherokee. Immigration built this country and is what kept us together for all these years so why try to make it harder for those who want to move to this country. There was a time when we encouraged immigration to the U.S, but now we are making it harder and harder to get in.

  • Samuel K.

    Talking about immigration can be very tough. There are so many different view points and no one wants to bend. I personally think it comes down to basic human rights. Just because I was born in a country where there is a lot of opportunity for success doesn’t mean that someone born in another country deserves any less opportunity. I’m not saying “just let ‘em in.” I’m saying don’t deny people at least a chance for a better life.
    #KQEDdonow
    @Rapoch

    • Drew_O_1

      I agree with Samuel, What exactly happened to The land of the free. If anyone remembers we are all technically immigrants even if you are 1/16 Cherokee. Immigration built this country and is what kept us together for all these years so why try to make it harder for those who want to move to this country. There was a time when we encouraged immigration to the U.S, but now we are making it harder and harder to get in.

  • Trevor G

    Immigration is out of hand right now and I believe that the boarder patrol should be intensified because the number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. is crazy. I believe that immigrants that have been here for awhile should have the right to get citizenship. If you want to be a citizen of the United State the least you could do is follow the rules.

  • Trevor G

    Immigration is out of hand right now and I believe that the boarder patrol should be intensified because the number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. is crazy. I believe that immigrants that have been here for awhile should have the right to get citizenship. If you want to be a citizen of the United State the least you could do is follow the rules.

  • Trevor G

    Immigration is out of hand right now and I believe that the boarder patrol should be intensified because the number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. is crazy. I believe that immigrants that have been here for awhile should have the right to get citizenship. If you want to be a citizen of the United State the least you could do is follow the rules.
    @rapoch #KQEDdonow

    • Logan_S_1

      I agree that even though coming here illegally is wrong, they still need to try to benefit the United States by paying taxes and other stuff. They need to follow the rules, but have a chance to be granted citizenship if they want. We do need to increase border security a lot, because there are way to many illegal immigrants.

      • kyle_m_1

        I agree, Logan. Border security should be increased in order to encourage immigrants not to come here illegally. But in order to do that, we also have to encourage them to come here legally instead. I think that if we make it easier to get a visa to come, live, and work here that immigrants would be more encouraged to come to the U.S. and pay taxes, which benefits both the U.S. and the immigrant.

  • Trevor G

    Immigration is out of hand right now and I believe that the boarder patrol should be intensified because the number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. is crazy. I believe that immigrants that have been here for awhile should have the right to get citizenship. If you want to be a citizen of the United State the least you could do is follow the rules.
    @rapoch #KQEDdonow

    • Logan_S_1

      I agree that even though coming here illegally is wrong, they still need to try to benefit the United States by paying taxes and other stuff. They need to follow the rules, but have a chance to be granted citizenship if they want. We do need to increase border security a lot, because there are way to many illegal immigrants.

      • kyle_m_1

        I agree, Logan. Border security should be increased in order to encourage immigrants not to come here illegally. But in order to do that, we also have to encourage them to come here legally instead. I think that if we make it easier to get a visa to come, live, and work here that immigrants would be more encouraged to come to the U.S. and pay taxes, which benefits both the U.S. and the immigrant.

  • Nick

    Everyone; young or old, rich or poor, any ethnicity should be able to apply for citizenship in the United States. Just because people were born in another country doesn’t mean they aren’t qualified for the same rights as American citizens.
    #KQEDdonow @rapoch

    • William

      I agree with the statement that young or old, rich or poor, any ethnicity should be able to apply for citizenship in the United States. That is with a few minor exceptions. Background checks are an absolute must when it comes to admitting people as citizens of the U.S , especially because maintaining a safe country. If immigrants are willing to submit to a background check, they should be admitted as citizens.

  • Nick

    Everyone; young or old, rich or poor, any ethnicity should be able to apply for citizenship in the United States. Just because people were born in another country doesn’t mean they aren’t qualified for the same rights as American citizens.
    #KQEDdonow @rapoch

    • William

      I agree with the statement that young or old, rich or poor, any ethnicity should be able to apply for citizenship in the United States. That is with a few minor exceptions. Background checks are an absolute must when it comes to admitting people as citizens of the U.S , especially because maintaining a safe country. If immigrants are willing to submit to a background check, they should be admitted as citizens.

  • Julianne_G_3

    I feel like congress doesn’t tell us as much as they should. They are so vague but keep so many details about the actual bill so private and don’t tell us. For example, they aren’t telling us how they are going to make the proccess “easier” and “faster” they just say they are going to. They don’t even say at all what they are going to do with the current undocumented immigrants. It doesn’t say how they are going to find undocumented workers. They don’t say a lot and to me that is the most frustrating. We the people of the United States have a right to know what you are doing to help the country with the illegal immigration law as well as how you are doing this. Congress makes up only a small amount of the population, the majority are not people who have access to the bills or documents. It is their jobs to inform us about what they are doing and either they aren’t doing a good job at informing us or they aren’t doing a good job at trying to fix the problem. Either way, I, a legal US citizen born and raised in America, am unhappy and I’m quite sure atleast one other person out there agrees with me if not more.

    • Jennifer_C_1

      Julianne_G_3,
      I agree with your comment on the government. They really don’t mention how do do anything in specific, they just mention vague statements. I feel that when immigration reform finally changes for the better, it will be when congress will give us clear information on their plan.

      • sneha_k_3

        Julianne_G_3,

        I understand where you are coming from when you say, “congress doesn’t tell us as much as they should”. However, I decided to do some research of my own and found quite a lot of information regarding the bill. I talked about this in an earlier post. I was able to find the framework of the bill online and it provided me with much more information regarding the bill (http://www.c-span.org/uploadedFiles/Content/Documents/Bipartisan-Framework-For-Immigration-Reform.pdf). I urge you to look into the areas of the article that you feel are “vague”, and I am sure that you will find much more information.

  • Julianne_G_3

    I feel like congress doesn’t tell us as much as they should. They are so vague but keep so many details about the actual bill so private and don’t tell us. For example, they aren’t telling us how they are going to make the proccess “easier” and “faster” they just say they are going to. They don’t even say at all what they are going to do with the current undocumented immigrants. It doesn’t say how they are going to find undocumented workers. They don’t say a lot and to me that is the most frustrating. We the people of the United States have a right to know what you are doing to help the country with the illegal immigration law as well as how you are doing this. Congress makes up only a small amount of the population, the majority are not people who have access to the bills or documents. It is their jobs to inform us about what they are doing and either they aren’t doing a good job at informing us or they aren’t doing a good job at trying to fix the problem. Either way, I, a legal US citizen born and raised in America, am unhappy and I’m quite sure atleast one other person out there agrees with me if not more.

    • Jennifer_C_1

      Julianne_G_3,
      I agree with your comment on the government. They really don’t mention how do do anything in specific, they just mention vague statements. I feel that when immigration reform finally changes for the better, it will be when congress will give us clear information on their plan.

      • sneha_k_3

        Julianne_G_3,

        I understand where you are coming from when you say, “congress doesn’t tell us as much as they should”. However, I decided to do some research of my own and found quite a lot of information regarding the bill. I talked about this in an earlier post. I was able to find the framework of the bill online and it provided me with much more information regarding the bill (http://www.c-span.org/uploadedFiles/Content/Documents/Bipartisan-Framework-For-Immigration-Reform.pdf). I urge you to look into the areas of the article that you feel are “vague”, and I am sure that you will find much more information.

  • Zach Hall

    I agree that changes need to be made regarding immigration to make it so there is less illegal immigration, but at the same time I do believe that they shouldn’t pass a bill that requires people to wait up to ten years for a green card and up to another three for citizenship, if this were to be passed, then people wouldn’t want to wait for that long and they would just come illegally and it would make it even worse.

  • Zach Hall

    I agree that changes need to be made regarding immigration to make it so there is less illegal immigration, but at the same time I do believe that they shouldn’t pass a bill that requires people to wait up to ten years for a green card and up to another three for citizenship, if this were to be passed, then people wouldn’t want to wait for that long and they would just come illegally and it would make it even worse.

  • Zach_H_4

    Regarding Nick’s comment about letting everyone in America, I don’t disagree with you, I think anyone should be allowed to come here, but that being said there needs to be regulated, they still need to pay taxes and do everything like a normal citizen should do, not just walk in and mooch off of America.

  • Zach_H_4

    Regarding Nick’s comment about letting everyone in America, I don’t disagree with you, I think anyone should be allowed to come here, but that being said there needs to be regulated, they still need to pay taxes and do everything like a normal citizen should do, not just walk in and mooch off of America.

  • Zach_H_4

    Trevor G, I believe that you should not be able to gain citizenship by just simply being here awhile. Pretty much what your are allowing people to do by allowing this to happen would be to let them just hide in America for a while (illegally) and after awhile of being here they just gain citizenship. That isn’t fair to the people who actually work to gain citizenship the right way which takes time and money.

  • Zach_H_4

    Trevor G, I believe that you should not be able to gain citizenship by just simply being here awhile. Pretty much what your are allowing people to do by allowing this to happen would be to let them just hide in America for a while (illegally) and after awhile of being here they just gain citizenship. That isn’t fair to the people who actually work to gain citizenship the right way which takes time and money.

  • Vincent_E_4

    People have the ability to gain citizenship, and a lot of people already have it, whether or not they achieve it isn’t the problem. It’s the amount of time. The gaining of citizenship is an incredibly slow process, and it would be much easier to just go illegally, rather than going through such a long process. This is one of the many things that needs to be changed about immigration.

    • Shainah Alcorn

      I agree because you should gain citizenship then to just get it. Yes i agree with the proposed immigration reform the bill but to only make it fair if people that are immigrants pay taxes only though.

  • Vincent_E_4

    People have the ability to gain citizenship, and a lot of people already have it, whether or not they achieve it isn’t the problem. It’s the amount of time. The gaining of citizenship is an incredibly slow process, and it would be much easier to just go illegally, rather than going through such a long process. This is one of the many things that needs to be changed about immigration.

    • Shainah Alcorn

      I agree because you should gain citizenship then to just get it. Yes i agree with the proposed immigration reform the bill but to only make it fair if people that are immigrants pay taxes only though.

  • Jasmine W.

    I don’t think problems with immigration will ever be resolved, but I believe that everyone coming in the u.s should do it the right way which is legally. Even though i think it should be done the right way, I also think that they should stop trying to do things about the immigrants that are already peasant in the u.s. because they won’t be able to change anything so they should just let it go. I think a reform should be made but immigration isn’t always a bad thing. They just want to have better jobs and make a living and it creates smarter people, better things for the u.s. possibly and bad things can come from immigration obviously but it’s like 50-50.

  • Jasmine W.

    I don’t think problems with immigration will ever be resolved, but I believe that everyone coming in the u.s should do it the right way which is legally. Even though i think it should be done the right way, I also think that they should stop trying to do things about the immigrants that are already peasant in the u.s. because they won’t be able to change anything so they should just let it go. I think a reform should be made but immigration isn’t always a bad thing. They just want to have better jobs and make a living and it creates smarter people, better things for the u.s. possibly and bad things can come from immigration obviously but it’s like 50-50.

  • JM

    Immigration is a large problem facing our country. I feel that this bill is a step in the right direction for improving our system. I like the fact that it increases the number of visas given out, but I still fee that it is too long a time to completely solve the problem. I also think that speeding up the process for younger people is a very good idea because they are often the ones hurt most by problems resulting from illegal immigration, and they are often the least responsible for them.

    • Cayla_C_1

      I agree with JM’s statement. This is deffinetly a large problem not only with the countrie’s upgrading population, but also it’s economy. This bill will help maintin a more balanced plan with the immigration problem at hand by giving a more organized way of settling the immigrants with green cards and visas. On the other hand, it is stated that the wait to ubtain a green card or visa will take around 10 years and in my opinion that is too long and the immigrants will end up just staying as they are and come and go as they please.

  • JM

    Immigration is a large problem facing our country. I feel that this bill is a step in the right direction for improving our system. I like the fact that it increases the number of visas given out, but I still fee that it is too long a time to completely solve the problem. I also think that speeding up the process for younger people is a very good idea because they are often the ones hurt most by problems resulting from illegal immigration, and they are often the least responsible for them.

    • Cayla_C_1

      I agree with JM’s statement. This is deffinetly a large problem not only with the countrie’s upgrading population, but also it’s economy. This bill will help maintin a more balanced plan with the immigration problem at hand by giving a more organized way of settling the immigrants with green cards and visas. On the other hand, it is stated that the wait to ubtain a green card or visa will take around 10 years and in my opinion that is too long and the immigrants will end up just staying as they are and come and go as they please.

  • T Mark

    I believe those who have come to this country and have not committed any felonies should be considered for a path to citizenship. I agree with the proposed bill but i would tweak it and like Mo says make it so that the education visa system is better. This would cause our country to be much more educated and immigrants would be forced to learn english and participate in the American economy.
    Again, like Mo, I agree that the Obama administration is right when they say we shouldn’t build higher fences but instead build up the education system we have here. If all the immigrants come to America legally, get an education, and go find a job then how will people be able to say, “they are stealing our jobs”? They have to take the same path we do to get those jobs and will in turn help improve our economy and motivate Americans to compete for these jobs. Our country will be greatly improved if we are motivated by these immigrants and if these immigrants create a stable base for which we can build on and improve our economy.
    This bill is great because it is so rare for both parties to agree on the bill and to want to move the bill forward. We are making it legal for the immigrants to come to America and at the same time we are benefitting by their immigration. Like Sen. Chuck Schumer says, “This is a very balanced bill….The American people have told us to do two things. One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration. And that’s what our bill does”. This bill is finally the great step forward we needed to solve the immigration problem rather than bickering back and forth about what to do. We are really taking a step forward with this bill and i think if they continue to tweak and improve this bill we will finally be able to resolve immigration. For now.

  • T Mark

    I believe those who have come to this country and have not committed any felonies should be considered for a path to citizenship. I agree with the proposed bill but i would tweak it and like Mo says make it so that the education visa system is better. This would cause our country to be much more educated and immigrants would be forced to learn english and participate in the American economy.
    Again, like Mo, I agree that the Obama administration is right when they say we shouldn’t build higher fences but instead build up the education system we have here. If all the immigrants come to America legally, get an education, and go find a job then how will people be able to say, “they are stealing our jobs”? They have to take the same path we do to get those jobs and will in turn help improve our economy and motivate Americans to compete for these jobs. Our country will be greatly improved if we are motivated by these immigrants and if these immigrants create a stable base for which we can build on and improve our economy.
    This bill is great because it is so rare for both parties to agree on the bill and to want to move the bill forward. We are making it legal for the immigrants to come to America and at the same time we are benefitting by their immigration. Like Sen. Chuck Schumer says, “This is a very balanced bill….The American people have told us to do two things. One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration. And that’s what our bill does”. This bill is finally the great step forward we needed to solve the immigration problem rather than bickering back and forth about what to do. We are really taking a step forward with this bill and i think if they continue to tweak and improve this bill we will finally be able to resolve immigration. For now.

  • Abbie McGill

    This new immigration bill touches on the main points that most legislatures and citizens are concerned about: combating visa overstays and prioritizing border security before legal status can be granted. Also, this bill is being drafted and promoted by a bi-partisan group of which will appeal to both sides of the political spectrum and will hopefully encompass the moderats and extremists alike. I do believe that the process of fully becoming a citizen in the US should be an equal, fair opportunity to all prospectives, but I think for those who have been here past their visa date should be subject to back taxes and should “only receive a green card after every individual who is already waiting in line for a green card, at the time this legislation is enacted, has received their green card.” This would ensure that no one who has violated America’s immigration laws will receive preferential treatment as they relate to those individuals who have complied. I believe that with a fair and equal, efficient immigration system into the US, border control would not need to be as high as a priority because people would not feel the need to “sneak” into the states for work. With an adapted and systematic immigration system of: checking criminal backgrounds in both the US and in the previous country of residency, having flexible paths to citizenships for differing careers, and by accommodating those who are in the states covered by the DREAM act, I think most Americans would be pleased and prospective immigrants would have an equal and smooth transition into US citizenship. The only point of this bill I do not fully agree with is requiring immigrants to learn English fluently; the US doesn’t declare an official language, so it isn’t exactly fair or practical to require prospects to learn a non- official language to become a citizen.

    http://www.policymic.com/articles/24306/senate-immigration-reform-bill-4-areas-congress-will-seek-to-address

    • Ally

      Your discussion of taxes is interesting and I enjoyed the new perspective. I had never really thought about those ramifications of immigration.

  • Abbie McGill

    This new immigration bill touches on the main points that most legislatures and citizens are concerned about: combating visa overstays and prioritizing border security before legal status can be granted. Also, this bill is being drafted and promoted by a bi-partisan group of which will appeal to both sides of the political spectrum and will hopefully encompass the moderats and extremists alike. I do believe that the process of fully becoming a citizen in the US should be an equal, fair opportunity to all prospectives, but I think for those who have been here past their visa date should be subject to back taxes and should “only receive a green card after every individual who is already waiting in line for a green card, at the time this legislation is enacted, has received their green card.” This would ensure that no one who has violated America’s immigration laws will receive preferential treatment as they relate to those individuals who have complied. I believe that with a fair and equal, efficient immigration system into the US, border control would not need to be as high as a priority because people would not feel the need to “sneak” into the states for work. With an adapted and systematic immigration system of: checking criminal backgrounds in both the US and in the previous country of residency, having flexible paths to citizenships for differing careers, and by accommodating those who are in the states covered by the DREAM act, I think most Americans would be pleased and prospective immigrants would have an equal and smooth transition into US citizenship. The only point of this bill I do not fully agree with is requiring immigrants to learn English fluently; the US doesn’t declare an official language, so it isn’t exactly fair or practical to require prospects to learn a non- official language to become a citizen.

    http://www.policymic.com/articles/24306/senate-immigration-reform-bill-4-areas-congress-will-seek-to-address

    • Ally

      Your discussion of taxes is interesting and I enjoyed the new perspective. I had never really thought about those ramifications of immigration.

  • Nick M

    Congress is taking a step in the right direction in attempting immigration reform. The portion of the bill allowing the undocumented immigrants already here to become legal is a positive solution to the 11 million undocumented people in our nation according to this article. I am personally a strong supporter of loosening immigration laws, but the difficulty in accepting more immigrants is guaranteeing sufficient resources every American citizen needs in order to survive. According to an article on “rt.com”, “homelessness and poverty is on the rise, with 84 percent of US cities reporting that requests for emergency food assistance increased in 2012. Of those seeking emergency food, 51 percent were families and 37 were employed.” While we can’t be selfish and help only our citizens, while we do need to bring relief globally to international people in need, we cannot neglect our own.

    The most important issue needed to consider when solving immigration is making sure that when new immigrants come into our country as citizens, that they truly have an opportunity (like every other American deserves) to make a better life for themselves. While the ideal solution is to let anyone and everyone in, that is unrealistic and will only lead to more problems in the future. Nevertheless, it is nice to see Congress finally doing something about the issue of immigration.

  • Nick M

    Congress is taking a step in the right direction in attempting immigration reform. The portion of the bill allowing the undocumented immigrants already here to become legal is a positive solution to the 11 million undocumented people in our nation according to this article. I am personally a strong supporter of loosening immigration laws, but the difficulty in accepting more immigrants is guaranteeing sufficient resources every American citizen needs in order to survive. According to an article on “rt.com”, “homelessness and poverty is on the rise, with 84 percent of US cities reporting that requests for emergency food assistance increased in 2012. Of those seeking emergency food, 51 percent were families and 37 were employed.” While we can’t be selfish and help only our citizens, while we do need to bring relief globally to international people in need, we cannot neglect our own.

    The most important issue needed to consider when solving immigration is making sure that when new immigrants come into our country as citizens, that they truly have an opportunity (like every other American deserves) to make a better life for themselves. While the ideal solution is to let anyone and everyone in, that is unrealistic and will only lead to more problems in the future. Nevertheless, it is nice to see Congress finally doing something about the issue of immigration.

  • Nick M

    Congress is taking a step in the right direction in attempting immigration reform. The portion of the bill allowing the undocumented immigrants already here to become legal is a positive solution to the 11 million undocumented people in our nation according to this article. I am personally a strong supporter of loosening immigration laws, but the difficulty in accepting more immigrants is guaranteeing sufficient resources every American citizen needs in order to survive. According to an article on “rt.com”, “homelessness and poverty is on the rise, with 84 percent of US cities reporting that requests for emergency food assistance increased in 2012. Of those seeking emergency food, 51 percent were families and 37 were employed.” While we can’t be selfish and help only our citizens, while we do need to bring relief globally to international people in need, we cannot neglect our own.

    The most important issue needed to consider when solving immigration is making sure that when new immigrants come into our country as citizens, that they truly have an opportunity (like every other American deserves) to make a better life for themselves. While the ideal solution is to let anyone and everyone in, that is unrealistic and will only lead to more problems in the future. Nevertheless, it is nice to see Congress finally doing something about the issue of immigration.

  • jeffrey

    I think all non criminals should be eligible for a visa. It would be fair to have a thorough background check, have them learn english and pay taxes like everyone else.

    • Emily_O_3

      I agree with you jeffrey on most parts, but shouldn’t criminals be GIVEN a chance before we reject them? They’re are people who have immigrated here and are now making millions of dollars but have a criminal record. Just because some of them are criminals, it doesn’t mean they can’t do anything high class or big time jobs.

  • jeffrey

    I think all non criminals should be eligible for a visa. It would be fair to have a thorough background check, have them learn english and pay taxes like everyone else.

    • Emily_O_3

      I agree with you jeffrey on most parts, but shouldn’t criminals be GIVEN a chance before we reject them? They’re are people who have immigrated here and are now making millions of dollars but have a criminal record. Just because some of them are criminals, it doesn’t mean they can’t do anything high class or big time jobs.

  • jeffrey

    I think all non criminals should be eligible for a visa. It would be fair to have a thorough background check, have them learn english and pay taxes like everyone else.

    • Emily_O_3

      I agree with you jeffrey on most parts, but shouldn’t criminals be GIVEN a chance before we reject them? They’re are people who have immigrated here and are now making millions of dollars but have a criminal record. Just because some of them are criminals, it doesn’t mean they can’t do anything high class or big time jobs.

  • oscar

    I don’t fully agree with the goals they pup on people for them to qualify for citizenship because not everyone has the money to pay for the taxes and still support their family, some things need to be changed but I don’t know how

    • Jack

      Perhaps if we changed the rate of taxing for people with lower incomes it would be easier to integrate immigrants into society and the economy.

  • oscar

    I don’t fully agree with the goals they pup on people for them to qualify for citizenship because not everyone has the money to pay for the taxes and still support their family, some things need to be changed but I don’t know how

    • Jack

      Perhaps if we changed the rate of taxing for people with lower incomes it would be easier to integrate immigrants into society and the economy.

  • Emily_O_3

    To me when I read this article and watched the video, I felt like the congress wasn’t giving us all the information we needed. The’re just stating what they’re doing, but they’re still not giving us enough information here. They’re more concentrated on that facts rather than finding an easier and faster way to solve our problem with immigration. Even though I do not have access to the bills and documents, I would (if I was part of some organization) give people the details they needed to know. For immigrants to be legal in the U.S., they have to go through and extremely long process, and I think that somehow they’re cheating them. Like they don’t want people immigrating to the U.S. so they make it so long and slow. I personally would rather just go as an illegal immigrant because I have my priorities and I’ve got deadlines to meet.

  • Emily_O_3

    To me when I read this article and watched the video, I felt like the congress wasn’t giving us all the information we needed. The’re just stating what they’re doing, but they’re still not giving us enough information here. They’re more concentrated on that facts rather than finding an easier and faster way to solve our problem with immigration. Even though I do not have access to the bills and documents, I would (if I was part of some organization) give people the details they needed to know. For immigrants to be legal in the U.S., they have to go through and extremely long process, and I think that somehow they’re cheating them. Like they don’t want people immigrating to the U.S. so they make it so long and slow. I personally would rather just go as an illegal immigrant because I have my priorities and I’ve got deadlines to meet.

  • Mackinzie Castillo

    Everybody should get access because everybody deserves the same opportunities in America!

    • Jackson_S_1

      I disagree with you Mackinzie. Allowing everyone to attain citizenship can cause many problems. Even with the number of people in America now we can barely stay afloat. Our debt it huge and is increasing. Bringing more people into our country will not help. In addition illegal immigrants do not pay taxes. Thus adding to our debt. Another down side to illegal immigration is that they often are forced to carry dugs by the cartels. Letting anyone come over will increase drug abuse in America.

    • David Jenny

      I enjoy the positivity but I strongly disagree with your statement. I agree that everyone deserves an equal opportunity but unfortunately somethings are just not possible the more people we let it will be harder to get jobs. There is a chance that crime would go up. America will become bloated and overpopulated with people. I wish everyone had the same opportunities but its not possible.

    • Taylor _W_4

      I have to disagree with that because that creates so many more terrorists and crime activity. Background checks must be implied, and the reason for citizenship is to show your love and loyalty to the country. We can’t just have random people running in and out of our country without some serious supervision. I think the opposite of your statement should occur. We need to raise the border patrol effects and make our country golden, something truly golden to get access into.

  • Mackinzie Castillo

    Everybody should get access because everybody deserves the same opportunities in America!

    • Jackson_S_1

      I disagree with you Mackinzie. Allowing everyone to attain citizenship can cause many problems. Even with the number of people in America now we can barely stay afloat. Our debt it huge and is increasing. Bringing more people into our country will not help. In addition illegal immigrants do not pay taxes. Thus adding to our debt. Another down side to illegal immigration is that they often are forced to carry dugs by the cartels. Letting anyone come over will increase drug abuse in America.

    • David Jenny

      I enjoy the positivity but I strongly disagree with your statement. I agree that everyone deserves an equal opportunity but unfortunately somethings are just not possible the more people we let it will be harder to get jobs. There is a chance that crime would go up. America will become bloated and overpopulated with people. I wish everyone had the same opportunities but its not possible.

    • Taylor _W_4

      I have to disagree with that because that creates so many more terrorists and crime activity. Background checks must be implied, and the reason for citizenship is to show your love and loyalty to the country. We can’t just have random people running in and out of our country without some serious supervision. I think the opposite of your statement should occur. We need to raise the border patrol effects and make our country golden, something truly golden to get access into.

  • Vivian

    I think that that all immigrants who come to America, are hard-working and have good backgrounds deserve a chance at becoming a citizen.

    • Anant_K_4

      Vivian, I do agree with you that all immigrants that come to America should be given a chance. However, we need to be practical. America can barely house 12 million immigrants and is on the verge of an economical meltdown, having a considerable percentage of it caused by immigrants not paying taxes and other in justifications. For example, here is an excerpt from the article:
      “American people have told us to do two things. One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration.”
      – Introduction — Paragraph 2
      In this quote, it says that we need to stop the flow of more immigrants coming into the United States, and to make all current undocumented workers legal. The bill does not support further immigration, however, simply reducing the number of undocumented workers.
      In my opinion, we should address this problem by going to the root. What is the reason immigrants come to the US? Immigrants come for better opportunities, safety, freedom, less corruption, more job opportunities. For example, NAFTA is a treaty between Canada, America, and Mexico about talking down tariffs and allowing trade between these countries. Now, American farmers, who can afford to sell produce at a lower price, are stealing all the Mexican consumers from the Mexican farmers. These farmers now need to find a new source of money, which is in the US. Mexico is not the only country where immigrants come from, as this happens in many countries. We can help these developing countries improve by sending money, resources, soldiers, diplomats, anything that will benefit them at the long run. It may be a large investment, however, it will pay off in the number of undocumented workers in America. Now, what are some other countries that contain major push factors, and how can we solve those?

  • Vivian

    I think that that all immigrants who come to America, are hard-working and have good backgrounds deserve a chance at becoming a citizen.

    • Anant_K_4

      Vivian, I do agree with you that all immigrants that come to America should be given a chance. However, we need to be practical. America can barely house 12 million immigrants and is on the verge of an economical meltdown, having a considerable percentage of it caused by immigrants not paying taxes and other in justifications. For example, here is an excerpt from the article:
      “American people have told us to do two things. One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration.”
      – Introduction — Paragraph 2
      In this quote, it says that we need to stop the flow of more immigrants coming into the United States, and to make all current undocumented workers legal. The bill does not support further immigration, however, simply reducing the number of undocumented workers.
      In my opinion, we should address this problem by going to the root. What is the reason immigrants come to the US? Immigrants come for better opportunities, safety, freedom, less corruption, more job opportunities. For example, NAFTA is a treaty between Canada, America, and Mexico about talking down tariffs and allowing trade between these countries. Now, American farmers, who can afford to sell produce at a lower price, are stealing all the Mexican consumers from the Mexican farmers. These farmers now need to find a new source of money, which is in the US. Mexico is not the only country where immigrants come from, as this happens in many countries. We can help these developing countries improve by sending money, resources, soldiers, diplomats, anything that will benefit them at the long run. It may be a large investment, however, it will pay off in the number of undocumented workers in America. Now, what are some other countries that contain major push factors, and how can we solve those?

  • Vivian

    I think that that all immigrants who come to America, are hard-working and have good backgrounds deserve a chance at becoming a citizen.

  • River Motley

    Everyone should be considered for citizenship but they should all go threw a background check for criminal activity to just to make sure we don’t get murderers in our country. So I totally disagree with this bill its too long of process and it treats people from other countries like less than humans.

  • River Motley

    Everyone should be considered for citizenship but they should all go threw a background check for criminal activity to just to make sure we don’t get murderers in our country. So I totally disagree with this bill its too long of process and it treats people from other countries like less than humans.

  • River Motley

    Everyone should be considered for citizenship but they should all go threw a background check for criminal activity to just to make sure we don’t get murderers in our country. So I totally disagree with this bill its too long of process and it treats people from other countries like less than humans.

  • Saadiqah

    I agree with the bill but I believe they should lower the 10year requirement and the additional 3 years.

    • Jackson_S_1

      I completely agree with you. The 13 years period is way to long. If all the requirements are met then the immigrant should get his/her citizenship sooner.

    • Delaney_D_2

      Saadiqah and Jackson,
      I couldn’t agree you two more! I believe that 13 years is dragged on too far. So much could happen in that amount of time. Jackson, you were right on in my opinion. Once the immigrant completes the requirements needed, they should be able to do it then. They work so hard to get it done, but then end up having to wait longer than needed. I feel it is just causing congestion with the ones waiting.

  • Saadiqah

    I agree with the bill but I believe they should lower the 10year requirement and the additional 3 years.

    • Jackson_S_1

      I completely agree with you. The 13 years period is way to long. If all the requirements are met then the immigrant should get his/her citizenship sooner.

    • Delaney_D_2

      Saadiqah and Jackson,
      I couldn’t agree you two more! I believe that 13 years is dragged on too far. So much could happen in that amount of time. Jackson, you were right on in my opinion. Once the immigrant completes the requirements needed, they should be able to do it then. They work so hard to get it done, but then end up having to wait longer than needed. I feel it is just causing congestion with the ones waiting.

  • Bertagnole

    Any immigrant without a criminal record should have access to a visa. The should have to learn english and have a background check.

    • Cayla_C_1

      Bertagnole, I completely agree with your statement. Any immigrant without a criminal record should be given a chance to apply for a visa. Every immigrant whether legal or not should have to learn english and have a background check as well. Having a background check can give more opportunities to legal citizens rather than giving the job to an illegal person. Jobs will become safer causing the whole country to become more controlled, in my opinion. Learning english is a big deal as well because the majority speaks english and legal citizens are getting aggravated because they are now having to start learning spanish when they only know english and that is making it hard to get jobs now and days.

  • Bertagnole

    Any immigrant without a criminal record should have access to a visa. The should have to learn english and have a background check.

    • Cayla_C_1

      Bertagnole, I completely agree with your statement. Any immigrant without a criminal record should be given a chance to apply for a visa. Every immigrant whether legal or not should have to learn english and have a background check as well. Having a background check can give more opportunities to legal citizens rather than giving the job to an illegal person. Jobs will become safer causing the whole country to become more controlled, in my opinion. Learning english is a big deal as well because the majority speaks english and legal citizens are getting aggravated because they are now having to start learning spanish when they only know english and that is making it hard to get jobs now and days.

  • Mohammed

    I believe that everyone in America who is an illegal immigrant should recieve their citizenship. I don’t believe that only a certain group should recieve it because most definitely we will see a patern of which groups are recieving the citizenship and which are not. Therefore, if America wants to support immigrants by recieving their citizenship they should do it for all or not do it at all.

    • Uzoma_O_1

      But if this happens, It would not be beneficial to anyone because the population will become very large. If we just give away citizenships to everyone, then people from all around the world will flood to america, and if that happens the benefits and freedom that they came for will slowly degrade, and the American dream will be something very hard to attain. In our country right now, many people go to college and still cannot find jobs. If we give citizenships to everyone, then the population will be so large, there would not be enough jobs, and with so many people relying on government welfare for support, The economy would crash and become horrible. I wish that everyone who wanted too could come to america and attain citizenship, but that would destroy the country and the things thay came for will no longer be there

    • Jackson_S_1

      I agree with you that if we only select a specific group of immigrants it will become corrupt. But, awarding everyone with citizenship is not the answer. I think that installing a system to prevent the corruption will work.

    • Luke_H_1

      Mohammed, how is America going to benefit from giving away citizenships to illegal immigrants. Most illegal immigrants send their wealth and earnings back to their home country. They do not care about the success of America. Also, the population would increase drastically. With all of these illegal immigrants gaining citizenship and sending their wealth back home, the U.S. economy will crash and burn. This leaves much less money for education and benefits for Americans. The U.S. is all about opportunity, and if you work hard, than success is right around the corner. If your plan were to happen, there would be very little opportunity for Americans and anyone immigrating.

  • Mohammed

    I believe that everyone in America who is an illegal immigrant should recieve their citizenship. I don’t believe that only a certain group should recieve it because most definitely we will see a patern of which groups are recieving the citizenship and which are not. Therefore, if America wants to support immigrants by recieving their citizenship they should do it for all or not do it at all.

    • Uzoma_O_1

      But if this happens, It would not be beneficial to anyone because the population will become very large. If we just give away citizenships to everyone, then people from all around the world will flood to america, and if that happens the benefits and freedom that they came for will slowly degrade, and the American dream will be something very hard to attain. In our country right now, many people go to college and still cannot find jobs. If we give citizenships to everyone, then the population will be so large, there would not be enough jobs, and with so many people relying on government welfare for support, The economy would crash and become horrible. I wish that everyone who wanted too could come to america and attain citizenship, but that would destroy the country and the things thay came for will no longer be there

    • Jackson_S_1

      I agree with you that if we only select a specific group of immigrants it will become corrupt. But, awarding everyone with citizenship is not the answer. I think that installing a system to prevent the corruption will work.

    • Luke_H_1

      Mohammed, how is America going to benefit from giving away citizenships to illegal immigrants. Most illegal immigrants send their wealth and earnings back to their home country. They do not care about the success of America. Also, the population would increase drastically. With all of these illegal immigrants gaining citizenship and sending their wealth back home, the U.S. economy will crash and burn. This leaves much less money for education and benefits for Americans. The U.S. is all about opportunity, and if you work hard, than success is right around the corner. If your plan were to happen, there would be very little opportunity for Americans and anyone immigrating.

  • Mohammed

    I believe that everyone in America who is an illegal immigrant should recieve their citizenship. I don’t believe that only a certain group should recieve it because most definitely we will see a patern of which groups are recieving the citizenship and which are not. Therefore, if America wants to support immigrants by recieving their citizenship they should do it for all or not do it at all.

    • Uzoma_O_1

      But if this happens, It would not be beneficial to anyone because the population will become very large. If we just give away citizenships to everyone, then people from all around the world will flood to america, and if that happens the benefits and freedom that they came for will slowly degrade, and the American dream will be something very hard to attain. In our country right now, many people go to college and still cannot find jobs. If we give citizenships to everyone, then the population will be so large, there would not be enough jobs, and with so many people relying on government welfare for support, The economy would crash and become horrible. I wish that everyone who wanted too could come to america and attain citizenship, but that would destroy the country and the things thay came for will no longer be there

    • Luke_H_1

      Mohammed, how is America going to benefit from giving away citizenships to illegal immigrants. Most illegal immigrants send their wealth and earnings back to their home country. They do not care about the success of America. Also, the population would increase drastically. With all of these illegal immigrants gaining citizenship and sending their wealth back home, the U.S. economy will crash and burn. This leaves much less money for education and benefits for Americans. The U.S. is all about opportunity, and if you work hard, than success is right around the corner. If your plan were to happen, there would be very little opportunity for Americans and anyone immigrating.

  • karla

    I feel that they shouldn’t serve a time back in their country because they already struggled getting here, but I agree with the conditions they have

    • Emily_O_3

      I agree with you karla. I think that people who worked hard to get to the u.s. in the first place shouldn’t have to go back and serve because the process is long and slow. You spend so much time getting there and doing your part, but then having to go back home and then travel once again.

    • scott_c_1

      I disagree with you Karla. They already take the risk of crossing the border. They make 4 times the amount of money they do in the U.S than in Mexico. How will they get to see there family? These are the reasons why people go back to there country to be with their family.

  • karla

    I feel that they shouldn’t serve a time back in their country because they already struggled getting here, but I agree with the conditions they have

    • Emily_O_3

      I agree with you karla. I think that people who worked hard to get to the u.s. in the first place shouldn’t have to go back and serve because the process is long and slow. You spend so much time getting there and doing your part, but then having to go back home and then travel once again.

  • karla

    I feel that they shouldn’t serve a time back in their country because they already struggled getting here, but I agree with the conditions they have

    • Emily_O_3

      I agree with you karla. I think that people who worked hard to get to the u.s. in the first place shouldn’t have to go back and serve because the process is long and slow. You spend so much time getting there and doing your part, but then having to go back home and then travel once again.

    • scott_c_1

      I disagree with you Karla. They already take the risk of crossing the border. They make 4 times the amount of money they do in the U.S than in Mexico. How will they get to see there family? These are the reasons why people go back to there country to be with their family.

  • Austin Davison

    I believe that everyone who has been waiting for 5 or more years in America should get their ful rights to citizenship because they already are here they just want to be here legally so they can stop hiding. Also a background check would be very proper to have for every immigrant and i agree with the immigration reform bill because it wont impact everyones business it might even increase if its compromised. Yes its a fair approach for ones who have been here for years already.

    • daniela_m_2

      Being an undocumented immigrant is like being a kid that goes to school without being enrolled in the school. They get the same education that the other kids get, but they don’t participate in school activities such and fun raisers and donations. The school has no idea the kid exists, and if they find out that this kid is going to school with out being documented, then they will be kicked out.
      My point is, if they are not documented, then how would the U.S know their background? If the undocumented immigrant doesn’t also put in and try to become a legal citizen, then there is no way that your idea would work. I mean they wouldn’t want to have to pay taxes, all they want is to get enough money to provide food and shelter for their families, and paying taxes will just make that a little more difficult.

  • Austin Davison

    I believe that everyone who has been waiting for 5 or more years in America should get their ful rights to citizenship because they already are here they just want to be here legally so they can stop hiding. Also a background check would be very proper to have for every immigrant and i agree with the immigration reform bill because it wont impact everyones business it might even increase if its compromised. Yes its a fair approach for ones who have been here for years already.

  • Austin Davison

    I believe that everyone who has been waiting for 5 or more years in America should get their ful rights to citizenship because they already are here they just want to be here legally so they can stop hiding. Also a background check would be very proper to have for every immigrant and i agree with the immigration reform bill because it wont impact everyones business it might even increase if its compromised. Yes its a fair approach for ones who have been here for years already.

    • daniela_m_2

      Being an undocumented immigrant is like being a kid that goes to school without being enrolled in the school. They get the same education that the other kids get, but they don’t participate in school activities such and fun raisers and donations. The school has no idea the kid exists, and if they find out that this kid is going to school with out being documented, then they will be kicked out.
      My point is, if they are not documented, then how would the U.S know their background? If the undocumented immigrant doesn’t also put in and try to become a legal citizen, then there is no way that your idea would work. I mean they wouldn’t want to have to pay taxes, all they want is to get enough money to provide food and shelter for their families, and paying taxes will just make that a little more difficult.

  • Lia

    I feel that the United States is highly hypocritical and discriminatory when is comes to the immigration system. We stole this country from the native americans, then stole the africans to come build the country, then expanded into mexican territorities and stole their countries, and now we claim U.S. soil as our own and ask who should be “considered citizenship” and what would be a “fair/equitable approach” to allowing these people to be in “our” country….? Wow.

    • Uzoma_O_1

      But are we not beyond the age of finding and conquering? Most all land in the world today is developed and inhabited by people. It is true that we did come to this country and take the land from native american’s. But at that time, the America was mostly barren land- compared to the world power that it is today. It would not be appropriate to compare today, to past centuries because in the past the United States did not have a major world economy, or definite borders. It was mostly just territories. But now, we have a fragile economy and the number of people coming into the country affects it greatly. So although you made a good point, it would not be appropriate in this discussion.

    • http://www.albany.edu/history/HIS530/Immigrationsincethe1870s/immigration.html Diana_G_2

      I totally agree with Lia. America was started by immigrants. America “stole this country from the native americans, then stole the africans to come build the country, then expanded into mexican territorities and stole their countries, and now we claim U.S. soil as our own”. America is where it is because of immigrants. I don’t see why all of the sudden they want all of the undocumented workers out of “their” country. They should really be thanking the immigrants for their hard work.

  • Lia

    I feel that the United States is highly hypocritical and discriminatory when is comes to the immigration system. We stole this country from the native americans, then stole the africans to come build the country, then expanded into mexican territorities and stole their countries, and now we claim U.S. soil as our own and ask who should be “considered citizenship” and what would be a “fair/equitable approach” to allowing these people to be in “our” country….? Wow.

    • Uzoma_O_1

      But are we not beyond the age of finding and conquering? Most all land in the world today is developed and inhabited by people. It is true that we did come to this country and take the land from native american’s. But at that time, the America was mostly barren land- compared to the world power that it is today. It would not be appropriate to compare today, to past centuries because in the past the United States did not have a major world economy, or definite borders. It was mostly just territories. But now, we have a fragile economy and the number of people coming into the country affects it greatly. So although you made a good point, it would not be appropriate in this discussion.

    • http://www.albany.edu/history/HIS530/Immigrationsincethe1870s/immigration.html Diana_G_2

      I totally agree with Lia. America was started by immigrants. America “stole this country from the native americans, then stole the africans to come build the country, then expanded into mexican territorities and stole their countries, and now we claim U.S. soil as our own”. America is where it is because of immigrants. I don’t see why all of the sudden they want all of the undocumented workers out of “their” country. They should really be thanking the immigrants for their hard work.

  • Lia

    I feel that the United States is highly hypocritical and discriminatory when is comes to the immigration system. We stole this country from the native americans, then stole the africans to come build the country, then expanded into mexican territorities and stole their countries, and now we claim U.S. soil as our own and ask who should be “considered citizenship” and what would be a “fair/equitable approach” to allowing these people to be in “our” country….? Wow.

    • http://www.albany.edu/history/HIS530/Immigrationsincethe1870s/immigration.html Diana_G_2

      I totally agree with Lia. America was started by immigrants. America “stole this country from the native americans, then stole the africans to come build the country, then expanded into mexican territorities and stole their countries, and now we claim U.S. soil as our own”. America is where it is because of immigrants. I don’t see why all of the sudden they want all of the undocumented workers out of “their” country. They should really be thanking the immigrants for their hard work.

  • aria

    I think we should let anybody who wants to come to america because i think immigrants is who help build america in the first place..yes i agree with the reform bill

    • Daniel_M_1

      While I think differently about the anybody part, i believe that the Reform bill is a well made bill. The only part I worry about this bill is the 10 year wait.

    • Breona Eskridge

      I agree Aria , i feel like if they want to come to America let them .They are not doing anything wrong, they just want a job like anyone else.

  • aria

    I think we should let anybody who wants to come to america because i think immigrants is who help build america in the first place..yes i agree with the reform bill

    • Daniel_M_1

      While I think differently about the anybody part, i believe that the Reform bill is a well made bill. The only part I worry about this bill is the 10 year wait.

    • Breona Eskridge

      I agree Aria , i feel like if they want to come to America let them .They are not doing anything wrong, they just want a job like anyone else.

  • Rolf Crudupt II

    I agree with the reform bill, I feel that its more just, more fiar to the groups of people coming into the country. As long as its accessible to all ethnic groups despite race or discrimination then its all good…We should’ve had these a long time ago, but better late than never

    • Daniel_M_1

      I believe that was well. It was to long of a wait, and I’m quite happy that the bill is finally made

  • Rolf Crudupt II

    I agree with the reform bill, I feel that its more just, more fiar to the groups of people coming into the country. As long as its accessible to all ethnic groups despite race or discrimination then its all good…We should’ve had these a long time ago, but better late than never

    • Daniel_M_1

      I believe that was well. It was to long of a wait, and I’m quite happy that the bill is finally made

  • Susan Nahvi

    The bill is described as providing an “easy” method for illegal immigrants that are already here to attain legal status, but, from the description, that seems an enormous overstatement. They can only attain “registered provisional immigration status” after waiting six months after passage of the bill and then waiting for Homeland Security to develop its fencing plans (which could certainly take a long while). THEN they are allowed to work here. And then after waiting another ten years, they can finally achieve “lawful permanent resident status” or get a green card, which isn’t even full citizenship, but, of course, the government must have met all their border security goals and have dealt with all other immigrants waiting to go through the legal system first. Setting these “but, first” requirements seems less like encouragement and more like discouragement for illegal immigrants already here to become citizens. While I think that a trade-off between stricter border control and more leniency for those already here is a positive step, it seems very unbalanced.

  • Susan Nahvi

    The bill is described as providing an “easy” method for illegal immigrants that are already here to attain legal status, but, from the description, that seems an enormous overstatement. They can only attain “registered provisional immigration status” after waiting six months after passage of the bill and then waiting for Homeland Security to develop its fencing plans (which could certainly take a long while). THEN they are allowed to work here. And then after waiting another ten years, they can finally achieve “lawful permanent resident status” or get a green card, which isn’t even full citizenship, but, of course, the government must have met all their border security goals and have dealt with all other immigrants waiting to go through the legal system first. Setting these “but, first” requirements seems less like encouragement and more like discouragement for illegal immigrants already here to become citizens. While I think that a trade-off between stricter border control and more leniency for those already here is a positive step, it seems very unbalanced.

  • Susan Nahvi

    The bill is described as providing an “easy” method for illegal immigrants that are already here to attain legal status, but, from the description, that seems an enormous overstatement. They can only attain “registered provisional immigration status” after waiting six months after passage of the bill and then waiting for Homeland Security to develop its fencing plans (which could certainly take a long while). THEN they are allowed to work here. And then after waiting another ten years, they can finally achieve “lawful permanent resident status” or get a green card, which isn’t even full citizenship, but, of course, the government must have met all their border security goals and have dealt with all other immigrants waiting to go through the legal system first. Setting these “but, first” requirements seems less like encouragement and more like discouragement for illegal immigrants already here to become citizens. While I think that a trade-off between stricter border control and more leniency for those already here is a positive step, it seems very unbalanced.

  • Uzoma_O_1

    I think that this bill is very beneficial to the immigrants, and our own economy. Although an increase in population puts a strain on the US economy, if this bill passes then immigrants will be able to do their parts to contribute to the growth of the economy. With more workers visas, and harder border control, we can control the people that are coming into our country. And when we stop illegal immigrant from obtaining jobs, we can be sure that the money that is made in this country, stays in this country. I also think that the new “W” visa will be highly beneficial to low skilled immigrants because they can work in small businesses and jobs, legally, which also benefits the companies hiring them because they can lower prices and create a more competitive market. But the question is, what about the people who do not meet the specifications for this bill ( such as people with criminal records or people who came later than Dec. 31, 2011), How will we get them out of the country? This also applies for people who’s worker’s visas’ expire, how will we prevent them from prolonging their stay and increasing the population? the bill is not perfect, but with som refinement, it could be a great thing for our country!

  • Uzoma_O_1

    I think that this bill is very beneficial to the immigrants, and our own economy. Although an increase in population puts a strain on the US economy, if this bill passes then immigrants will be able to do their parts to contribute to the growth of the economy. With more workers visas, and harder border control, we can control the people that are coming into our country. And when we stop illegal immigrant from obtaining jobs, we can be sure that the money that is made in this country, stays in this country. I also think that the new “W” visa will be highly beneficial to low skilled immigrants because they can work in small businesses and jobs, legally, which also benefits the companies hiring them because they can lower prices and create a more competitive market. But the question is, what about the people who do not meet the specifications for this bill ( such as people with criminal records or people who came later than Dec. 31, 2011), How will we get them out of the country? This also applies for people who’s worker’s visas’ expire, how will we prevent them from prolonging their stay and increasing the population? the bill is not perfect, but with som refinement, it could be a great thing for our country!

  • Uzoma_O_1

    I think that this bill is very beneficial to the immigrants, and our own economy. Although an increase in population puts a strain on the US economy, if this bill passes then immigrants will be able to do their parts to contribute to the growth of the economy. With more workers visas, and harder border control, we can control the people that are coming into our country. And when we stop illegal immigrant from obtaining jobs, we can be sure that the money that is made in this country, stays in this country. I also think that the new “W” visa will be highly beneficial to low skilled immigrants because they can work in small businesses and jobs, legally, which also benefits the companies hiring them because they can lower prices and create a more competitive market. But the question is, what about the people who do not meet the specifications for this bill ( such as people with criminal records or people who came later than Dec. 31, 2011), How will we get them out of the country? This also applies for people who’s worker’s visas’ expire, how will we prevent them from prolonging their stay and increasing the population? the bill is not perfect, but with som refinement, it could be a great thing for our country!

  • http://education.kqed.org Sara S.

    I support the immigration bill. It calls for stricter enforcement of the borders which is needed. But it also allows children brought to the US illegally by their parents the chance to become citizens.

  • http://education.kqed.org Sara S.

    I support the immigration bill. It calls for stricter enforcement of the borders which is needed. But it also allows children brought to the US illegally by their parents the chance to become citizens.

  • http://education.kqed.org Sara S.

    I support the immigration bill. It calls for stricter enforcement of the borders which is needed. But it also allows children brought to the US illegally by their parents the chance to become citizens.

  • Nick

    I think anyone who wants to migrate to America should be eligible for the path to citizenship. It shouldn’t be a near impossible process to get in, but it also shouldn’t be so easy it’s a joke. I do agree with having heightened security at the border.

    • Brian_L_3

      I do agree of having a stronger border control can prevent of the increase of illegal immigrants in the future and we can finally try to fix the problem of the citizenship deal within the U.S.

  • Nick

    I think anyone who wants to migrate to America should be eligible for the path to citizenship. It shouldn’t be a near impossible process to get in, but it also shouldn’t be so easy it’s a joke. I do agree with having heightened security at the border.

    • Brian_L_3

      I do agree of having a stronger border control can prevent of the increase of illegal immigrants in the future and we can finally try to fix the problem of the citizenship deal within the U.S.

  • Nick

    I think anyone who wants to migrate to America should be eligible for the path to citizenship. It shouldn’t be a near impossible process to get in, but it also shouldn’t be so easy it’s a joke. I do agree with having heightened security at the border.

    • Brian_L_3

      I do agree of having a stronger border control can prevent of the increase of illegal immigrants in the future and we can finally try to fix the problem of the citizenship deal within the U.S.

  • Zac_Shcneider_2

    I think that this subject can be very touchy for some of you even though it is a big deal we all need to think about this logically. As they said they are going to make a three to five year entrance for each immigrant and may even kick some of them out. I feel that it is a bad idea to do this because it will require to kick a lot of people out and it is a far too long objective for immigrants. Requiring all to learn english is also not too much but could be harder for some than others.

    • Sabiha

      I agree with you; the time component of the bill is too long and might even deter more people from trying to obtain citizenship. If immigrants are living, working, and contributing to our societies- they should reap the benefits of being an American citizen just like anyone else in this country, not have to wait 10+ years.

      • Hamilton_H_1

        Zach,
        you are right this is touchy, but we need to do everything in our power to get some kind of bill in place because the way things are now are not okay.

    • Lauren_R_3

      I agree with Hamilton. We need to have some sort of laws in place in order to retain control of the situation.

  • Zac_Shcneider_2

    I think that this subject can be very touchy for some of you even though it is a big deal we all need to think about this logically. As they said they are going to make a three to five year entrance for each immigrant and may even kick some of them out. I feel that it is a bad idea to do this because it will require to kick a lot of people out and it is a far too long objective for immigrants. Requiring all to learn english is also not too much but could be harder for some than others.

    • Lauren_R_3

      I agree with Hamilton. We need to have some sort of laws in place in order to retain control of the situation.

  • Zac_Shcneider_2

    I think that this subject can be very touchy for some of you even though it is a big deal we all need to think about this logically. As they said they are going to make a three to five year entrance for each immigrant and may even kick some of them out. I feel that it is a bad idea to do this because it will require to kick a lot of people out and it is a far too long objective for immigrants. Requiring all to learn english is also not too much but could be harder for some than others.

    • Sabiha

      I agree with you; the time component of the bill is too long and might even deter more people from trying to obtain citizenship. If immigrants are living, working, and contributing to our societies- they should reap the benefits of being an American citizen just like anyone else in this country, not have to wait 10+ years.

      • Hamilton_H_1

        Zach,
        you are right this is touchy, but we need to do everything in our power to get some kind of bill in place because the way things are now are not okay.

    • Lauren_R_3

      I agree with Hamilton. We need to have some sort of laws in place in order to retain control of the situation.

  • Noah Gabehart

    Everyone should be able to apply for citizenship in the United States, even if born in another country.

    • Jennifer_C_1

      Noah Gabehart,
      I disagree with your statement. You are basically saying that anyone in the world can come into our country and become legal citizens. This won’t help the current immigration problem at all. We are trying to stop and reduce the amount of people coming to America, not give a free pass to anyone who want to become a citizen. Though I can see where you come from, wanting to show compassion for those wanting to become American citizens.

      • Jeremy C.

        Jennifer C,
        Noah’s comment states that people all over the world should be able to legally apply for US citizenship. The current problem with immigration nowadays is that people are coming in illegally. This undocumented immigration allows them to go under the radar and get jobs, not pay taxes, and all the other negative aspects typically stereotyped with illegal immigration. However, citizens coming in form other countries having applied for US citizenship it completely all right and has been traditionally encouraged by citizens all over the country.

    • Lauren_R_3

      I agree with Jennifer on this one. I’m all for people becoming citizens, but they should have to go through the proper procedure. We can’t just let everyone become a citizen. It might be a good thing short term, but in the long run I feel that it might come back as a negative.

      • daniela_m_2

        I agree with you to an extent. If every 11 million immigrants became a legal citizens, then the US government would fail. American cannot hold this many people, and even if they went through with it and succeeded, then it would attract more and more immigrants to come and get their citizenship, and then it would fail. I think that immigrants do help this country to build up, but if it exceeds over the top, then it can also tear it down.

    • Jaime_A_3

      I disagree with your statement Noah. I believe if we were to let everyone apply for a citizenship, then we would have a over load in applications. We already have a problem with the process of becoming a citizen taking to long, why should we add to the problem.

      • Jeremy C.

        Jaime A,
        The problem with overloading US citizenship application offices is much more minuscule than immigrating illegally, which is the only other obvious solution. So when you say that we shouldn’t add to a problem, you must keep in mind that said problem is both much more peaceful and much more easier to solve than it’s illegal counterpart.

  • Noah Gabehart

    Everyone should be able to apply for citizenship in the United States, even if born in another country.

    • Lauren_R_3

      I agree with Jennifer on this one. I’m all for people becoming citizens, but they should have to go through the proper procedure. We can’t just let everyone become a citizen. It might be a good thing short term, but in the long run I feel that it might come back as a negative.

  • Noah Gabehart

    Everyone should be able to apply for citizenship in the United States, even if born in another country.

    • Jennifer_C_1

      Noah Gabehart,
      I disagree with your statement. You are basically saying that anyone in the world can come into our country and become legal citizens. This won’t help the current immigration problem at all. We are trying to stop and reduce the amount of people coming to America, not give a free pass to anyone who want to become a citizen. Though I can see where you come from, wanting to show compassion for those wanting to become American citizens.

      • Jeremy C.

        Jennifer C,
        Noah’s comment states that people all over the world should be able to legally apply for US citizenship. The current problem with immigration nowadays is that people are coming in illegally. This undocumented immigration allows them to go under the radar and get jobs, not pay taxes, and all the other negative aspects typically stereotyped with illegal immigration. However, citizens coming in form other countries having applied for US citizenship it completely all right and has been traditionally encouraged by citizens all over the country.

    • Lauren_R_3

      I agree with Jennifer on this one. I’m all for people becoming citizens, but they should have to go through the proper procedure. We can’t just let everyone become a citizen. It might be a good thing short term, but in the long run I feel that it might come back as a negative.

      • daniela_m_2

        I agree with you to an extent. If every 11 million immigrants became a legal citizens, then the US government would fail. American cannot hold this many people, and even if they went through with it and succeeded, then it would attract more and more immigrants to come and get their citizenship, and then it would fail. I think that immigrants do help this country to build up, but if it exceeds over the top, then it can also tear it down.

    • Jaime_A_3

      I disagree with your statement Noah. I believe if we were to let everyone apply for a citizenship, then we would have a over load in applications. We already have a problem with the process of becoming a citizen taking to long, why should we add to the problem.

      • Jeremy C.

        Jaime A,
        The problem with overloading US citizenship application offices is much more minuscule than immigrating illegally, which is the only other obvious solution. So when you say that we shouldn’t add to a problem, you must keep in mind that said problem is both much more peaceful and much more easier to solve than it’s illegal counterpart.

  • scott_c_1

    I believe that any one should be able to come to America. Immigrants who come to America, do the jobs that we don’t want to do. You could call those jobs “dirty jobs”. Immigrants helped us become a country. We should let any one live in America. I believe that this bill is a solid compromise. I also believe that we should begin stricter border patrol. People are able to apply to become a citizen of the United States. That takes a lot of time, in the article there are undocumented workers that want to become a citizen. It is a long process and takes time to get done.

    • Kane

      Although your beginning was borderline racist (no pun intended), I agree with your comment. If anything this bill will only help the U.S. as a whole, and there should be no worry for where this may lead the country. It will make us all work harder to get better jobs, thus boosting the economy. With the addition of more strict border control, this bill is a good compromise and could potentially be the economic boost we have been looking for.

      • scott_c_1

        What I meant to say was that immigrants have motivation to do their work. Immigrants take the jobs the that require a lot of work to do. They are hard working people. I did not intend for that comment to be considered racist.

    • Delaney_D_2

      Scott,
      I agree with your statement, I believe that anyone is accepted to come and have a U.S. legal membership. If they want to become a citizen, give them an opportunity to become one. Though I do have to add, I could come across a different opinion if they don’t feel to be committed to the U.S. and or don’t want to be here, but still choose to. They have to want it.

      • Danielle_G_2

        Scott_C_1
        Scott,
        I agree with what you are saying overall but, we need to have process where we can limit the amount of immigrants coming to the U.S., otherwise we are not solving the problem that is happening to begin with. We need to bring in immigrants that are committed to the U.S. and are here to stay. Not those who only here for work. The immigrants have to want it and come to our country even though there is a lengthy process.

    • Jackson_S_1

      Scott, you have no proof of what immigrants want. Just because they are often stuck doing menial jobs it does not mean they enjoy it. Actually many want to attain white color jobs. In addition not everyone should be able to come here. “We should let any one live in America.”, I dont know if you realize what you are saying. There are plenty of immigrants with devious intentions.

      Sources: http://nation.time.com/2013/01/14/the-new-and-rich-immigrants-from-mexico-how-their-money-is-changing-texas/

    • Rohan_P_1

      Your comment makes sense but immigrants don’t just want “dirty jobs”. Often times since there illegal that’s all they can get.

  • scott_c_1

    I believe that any one should be able to come to America. Immigrants who come to America, do the jobs that we don’t want to do. You could call those jobs “dirty jobs”. Immigrants helped us become a country. We should let any one live in America. I believe that this bill is a solid compromise. I also believe that we should begin stricter border patrol. People are able to apply to become a citizen of the United States. That takes a lot of time, in the article there are undocumented workers that want to become a citizen. It is a long process and takes time to get done.

    • Kane

      Although your beginning was borderline racist (no pun intended), I agree with your comment. If anything this bill will only help the U.S. as a whole, and there should be no worry for where this may lead the country. It will make us all work harder to get better jobs, thus boosting the economy. With the addition of more strict border control, this bill is a good compromise and could potentially be the economic boost we have been looking for.

    • Delaney_D_2

      Scott,
      I agree with your statement, I believe that anyone is accepted to come and have a U.S. legal membership. If they want to become a citizen, give them an opportunity to become one. Though I do have to add, I could come across a different opinion if they don’t feel to be committed to the U.S. and or don’t want to be here, but still choose to. They have to want it.

    • Rohan_P_1

      Your comment makes sense but immigrants don’t just want “dirty jobs”. Often times since there illegal that’s all they can get.

  • scott_c_1

    I believe that any one should be able to come to America. Immigrants who come to America, do the jobs that we don’t want to do. You could call those jobs “dirty jobs”. Immigrants helped us become a country. We should let any one live in America. I believe that this bill is a solid compromise. I also believe that we should begin stricter border patrol. People are able to apply to become a citizen of the United States. That takes a lot of time, in the article there are undocumented workers that want to become a citizen. It is a long process and takes time to get done.

    • Kane

      Although your beginning was borderline racist (no pun intended), I agree with your comment. If anything this bill will only help the U.S. as a whole, and there should be no worry for where this may lead the country. It will make us all work harder to get better jobs, thus boosting the economy. With the addition of more strict border control, this bill is a good compromise and could potentially be the economic boost we have been looking for.

      • scott_c_1

        What I meant to say was that immigrants have motivation to do their work. Immigrants take the jobs the that require a lot of work to do. They are hard working people. I did not intend for that comment to be considered racist.

    • Delaney_D_2

      Scott,
      I agree with your statement, I believe that anyone is accepted to come and have a U.S. legal membership. If they want to become a citizen, give them an opportunity to become one. Though I do have to add, I could come across a different opinion if they don’t feel to be committed to the U.S. and or don’t want to be here, but still choose to. They have to want it.

      • Danielle_G_2

        Scott_C_1
        Scott,
        I agree with what you are saying overall but, we need to have process where we can limit the amount of immigrants coming to the U.S., otherwise we are not solving the problem that is happening to begin with. We need to bring in immigrants that are committed to the U.S. and are here to stay. Not those who only here for work. The immigrants have to want it and come to our country even though there is a lengthy process.

    • Jackson_S_1

      Scott, you have no proof of what immigrants want. Just because they are often stuck doing menial jobs it does not mean they enjoy it. Actually many want to attain white color jobs. In addition not everyone should be able to come here. “We should let any one live in America.”, I dont know if you realize what you are saying. There are plenty of immigrants with devious intentions.

      Sources: http://nation.time.com/2013/01/14/the-new-and-rich-immigrants-from-mexico-how-their-money-is-changing-texas/

    • Rohan_P_1

      Your comment makes sense but immigrants don’t just want “dirty jobs”. Often times since there illegal that’s all they can get.

  • Jackson_S_1

    After reading this article I feel that our government is making progress on immigration. This is a fragile topic with hard opinions. Allowing illegal immigrants to attain visas is necessary. More specifically I agree with giving visas to skilled workers. The time frame of becoming a citizen(13 years) is to long in my opinion. I think that with the requirements met an immigrant should be able to become a citizen within five years. Although the length for adults is to long, for DREAMers I agree with the shortened time. To complete this our government will have to inference many laws that are not being honored now. Dispute this I aprove of the bill.

    • Hamilton_H_1

      Jackson_s_1 You have a good point about how visas need to be available, but I think that we should only make visas available for the people that have waited and earned it.

  • Jackson_S_1

    After reading this article I feel that our government is making progress on immigration. This is a fragile topic with hard opinions. Allowing illegal immigrants to attain visas is necessary. More specifically I agree with giving visas to skilled workers. The time frame of becoming a citizen(13 years) is to long in my opinion. I think that with the requirements met an immigrant should be able to become a citizen within five years. Although the length for adults is to long, for DREAMers I agree with the shortened time. To complete this our government will have to inference many laws that are not being honored now. Dispute this I aprove of the bill.

    • Hamilton_H_1

      Jackson_s_1 You have a good point about how visas need to be available, but I think that we should only make visas available for the people that have waited and earned it.

  • Jackson_S_1

    After reading this article I feel that our government is making progress on immigration. This is a fragile topic with hard opinions. Allowing illegal immigrants to attain visas is necessary. More specifically I agree with giving visas to skilled workers. The time frame of becoming a citizen(13 years) is to long in my opinion. I think that with the requirements met an immigrant should be able to become a citizen within five years. Although the length for adults is to long, for DREAMers I agree with the shortened time. To complete this our government will have to inference many laws that are not being honored now. Dispute this I aprove of the bill.

  • Sean Mac

    The immigration system in this country is in dire need of some sort of reform. I strongly believe anybody willing to complete the process described in the video above, should become a citizen of the United States. I believe the current system is the best suited one to allow immigrants in while also keeping our nation safe. I support keeping our borders safe, but i believe we have an obligation to share the American Dream with those who aren’t as privileged as us.

    • Jackson_S_1

      I couldn’t agree with you more. If these “undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes… it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. Those convicted of serious crimes are not eligible to apply.” -Paragraph 3, are met then anyone should be able to come here. Our opportunities here out weigh that of the world around us and should be shared.

  • Sean Mac

    The immigration system in this country is in dire need of some sort of reform. I strongly believe anybody willing to complete the process described in the video above, should become a citizen of the United States. I believe the current system is the best suited one to allow immigrants in while also keeping our nation safe. I support keeping our borders safe, but i believe we have an obligation to share the American Dream with those who aren’t as privileged as us.

  • Sean Mac

    The immigration system in this country is in dire need of some sort of reform. I strongly believe anybody willing to complete the process described in the video above, should become a citizen of the United States. I believe the current system is the best suited one to allow immigrants in while also keeping our nation safe. I support keeping our borders safe, but i believe we have an obligation to share the American Dream with those who aren’t as privileged as us.

    • Jackson_S_1

      I couldn’t agree with you more. If these “undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes… it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. Those convicted of serious crimes are not eligible to apply.” -Paragraph 3, are met then anyone should be able to come here. Our opportunities here out weigh that of the world around us and should be shared.

  • Jennifer_C_1

    I think that it’s good to give the undocumented people in America a chance to become legal citizens, but I fear that 10 years for a green card and another 3 for legal status is a little much. While I do generally agree with the process that the new bill states, I just feel that 13 years for citizenship is too long of a wait. I think that some undocumented people will not want to wait all those years, and won’t bother with the lengthy process. We also have to keep in mind that some illegal immigrants are only here to work, and not actually become American citizens. Though I do agree with the enhanced border security part. We need to keep a stricter watch on the border so we can prevent any more people illegally coming into America. Overall, I think that this bill needs a lot more thinking and work put in it to make it truly effective for the future of our country.

    • EP

      I agree with you that the process is too long, but it is definitely a step in the right direction. I think if we fixed this problem, increasing boarder security would not be that big of a problem. Once more people can come here legally they won’t feel the necessity to come here illegally. I think that we should try to maintain our current level of boarder security, but I don’t see the need to increase it.

    • Danielle_G_2

      Jennifer_C_1
      I agree with your statement about the border security. I think that America needs to enhance our border control so that we can keep people from coming to America illegally; it will also reduce the amount of overall undocumented people in our country. While it’s important for others to feel that America is a safe place to come, we also need to make it clear that as a country we have certain regulations that immigrants must follow if they wish to become a citizen. America will always be a symbol of freedom, but under no circumstance does this fact permit illegal immigration.

  • Jennifer_C_1

    I think that it’s good to give the undocumented people in America a chance to become legal citizens, but I fear that 10 years for a green card and another 3 for legal status is a little much. While I do generally agree with the process that the new bill states, I just feel that 13 years for citizenship is too long of a wait. I think that some undocumented people will not want to wait all those years, and won’t bother with the lengthy process. We also have to keep in mind that some illegal immigrants are only here to work, and not actually become American citizens. Though I do agree with the enhanced border security part. We need to keep a stricter watch on the border so we can prevent any more people illegally coming into America. Overall, I think that this bill needs a lot more thinking and work put in it to make it truly effective for the future of our country.

    • EP

      I agree with you that the process is too long, but it is definitely a step in the right direction. I think if we fixed this problem, increasing boarder security would not be that big of a problem. Once more people can come here legally they won’t feel the necessity to come here illegally. I think that we should try to maintain our current level of boarder security, but I don’t see the need to increase it.

    • Danielle_G_2

      Jennifer_C_1
      I agree with your statement about the border security. I think that America needs to enhance our border control so that we can keep people from coming to America illegally; it will also reduce the amount of overall undocumented people in our country. While it’s important for others to feel that America is a safe place to come, we also need to make it clear that as a country we have certain regulations that immigrants must follow if they wish to become a citizen. America will always be a symbol of freedom, but under no circumstance does this fact permit illegal immigration.

  • Jennifer_C_1

    I think that it’s good to give the undocumented people in America a chance to become legal citizens, but I fear that 10 years for a green card and another 3 for legal status is a little much. While I do generally agree with the process that the new bill states, I just feel that 13 years for citizenship is too long of a wait. I think that some undocumented people will not want to wait all those years, and won’t bother with the lengthy process. We also have to keep in mind that some illegal immigrants are only here to work, and not actually become American citizens. Though I do agree with the enhanced border security part. We need to keep a stricter watch on the border so we can prevent any more people illegally coming into America. Overall, I think that this bill needs a lot more thinking and work put in it to make it truly effective for the future of our country.

    • EP

      I agree with you that the process is too long, but it is definitely a step in the right direction. I think if we fixed this problem, increasing boarder security would not be that big of a problem. Once more people can come here legally they won’t feel the necessity to come here illegally. I think that we should try to maintain our current level of boarder security, but I don’t see the need to increase it.

  • Ally

    I support this bill and most importantly, I support the bipartisanship that led to this compromise. Both sides made concessions and in the end came to a reasonable agreement. While I think the timeline to get citizenship is a little long, the general outline of the bill is good.

  • Ally

    I support this bill and most importantly, I support the bipartisanship that led to this compromise. Both sides made concessions and in the end came to a reasonable agreement. While I think the timeline to get citizenship is a little long, the general outline of the bill is good.

  • Ally

    I support this bill and most importantly, I support the bipartisanship that led to this compromise. Both sides made concessions and in the end came to a reasonable agreement. While I think the timeline to get citizenship is a little long, the general outline of the bill is good.

  • Jennifer_C_1

    scott_c_1,
    I agree with your statement that we need stricter border control. If we enforce the security at the border, then we can reduce the amount of illegal immigrants coming into our country. Hopefully this new bill will work and we can stop the undocumented people before they get too far.

    • sheldon_f_3

      A fence isn’t exactly feasible-I think increasing Homeland Security’s budget is a smarter decision.

    • Frankie_M_4

      I agree that the border patrol isn’t strict enough and we need to buckle down on the border but this new bill hopefully will not fail.

  • Jennifer_C_1

    scott_c_1,
    I agree with your statement that we need stricter border control. If we enforce the security at the border, then we can reduce the amount of illegal immigrants coming into our country. Hopefully this new bill will work and we can stop the undocumented people before they get too far.

    • sheldon_f_3

      A fence isn’t exactly feasible-I think increasing Homeland Security’s budget is a smarter decision.

    • Frankie_M_4

      I agree that the border patrol isn’t strict enough and we need to buckle down on the border but this new bill hopefully will not fail.

  • Hamilton_H_1

    People that came to America illegally shouldn’t be aloud to earn citizenship, but people who are in other countries and have never tried to illegally immigrate should be aloud to come legally. If we let all the illegal immigrants become legal it would basically be saying it’s okay now.

    • Maddie_C_4

      I agree that giving the illegal immigrants citizenship will reenforce the idea of crossing the boarder illegally. I think that they should not allow the current illegal immigrants to apply right away, but have a “punishment” waiting time for crossing the border without the correct paperwork.

    • Carlie_P_4

      I agree with you Hamilton. We should not let current illegal immigrants become legal because that is basically rewarding them with a free citizenship. Why should we reward wrong doings? It would not be fair to others who are going through the very long process of becoming a legal immigrants. If illegal immigrants would want to become citizens they should have some sort of punishment of having to wait longer or going through a harder process.

  • Hamilton_H_1

    People that came to America illegally shouldn’t be aloud to earn citizenship, but people who are in other countries and have never tried to illegally immigrate should be aloud to come legally. If we let all the illegal immigrants become legal it would basically be saying it’s okay now.

    • Maddie_C_4

      I agree that giving the illegal immigrants citizenship will reenforce the idea of crossing the boarder illegally. I think that they should not allow the current illegal immigrants to apply right away, but have a “punishment” waiting time for crossing the border without the correct paperwork.

    • Carlie_P_4

      I agree with you Hamilton. We should not let current illegal immigrants become legal because that is basically rewarding them with a free citizenship. Why should we reward wrong doings? It would not be fair to others who are going through the very long process of becoming a legal immigrants. If illegal immigrants would want to become citizens they should have some sort of punishment of having to wait longer or going through a harder process.

  • Kane

    I personally agree with this bill. I am a strong believer in equal rights and I feel as if equal opportunity for immigrants can only potentially help the United States, whether this be in our self-owned businesses or our economy as a whole. This may make it more difficult to get a job, but it will make individuals work harder on a career or work harder to maintain work, therefore allowing the U.S. to flourish. There is a strong need for skilled workers, and the country would benefit from this bill (http://www.policymic.com/articles/24671/immigration-reform-2013-gang-of-8-bill-would-provide-pathway-to-citizenship). There have been some speculations on background checks performed prior to achieving citizenship, and citizens seem to be worried that it will cause more crime in the U.S. In reality, no immigrants will be allowed citizenship without passing the check and a second check could be installed just for safe measures (http://swampland.time.com/2013/04/19/immigration-reforms-first-big-test-the-boston-bombing/). Unfortunately there has not been much followup on my last point being a strengthened border control. If the U.S. would strengthen their borders safety would be much less of a concern and the fact that skilled immigrants were entering the country would be solidified (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/21/Gang-Of-Eight-Bill-Doesn-t-Keep-Promises-It-Was-Supposed-To). This bill could really benefit the U.S. as a whole and would be beneficial from a personal and worldwide standpoint.

  • Kane

    I personally agree with this bill. I am a strong believer in equal rights and I feel as if equal opportunity for immigrants can only potentially help the United States, whether this be in our self-owned businesses or our economy as a whole. This may make it more difficult to get a job, but it will make individuals work harder on a career or work harder to maintain work, therefore allowing the U.S. to flourish. There is a strong need for skilled workers, and the country would benefit from this bill (http://www.policymic.com/articles/24671/immigration-reform-2013-gang-of-8-bill-would-provide-pathway-to-citizenship). There have been some speculations on background checks performed prior to achieving citizenship, and citizens seem to be worried that it will cause more crime in the U.S. In reality, no immigrants will be allowed citizenship without passing the check and a second check could be installed just for safe measures (http://swampland.time.com/2013/04/19/immigration-reforms-first-big-test-the-boston-bombing/). Unfortunately there has not been much followup on my last point being a strengthened border control. If the U.S. would strengthen their borders safety would be much less of a concern and the fact that skilled immigrants were entering the country would be solidified (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/21/Gang-Of-Eight-Bill-Doesn-t-Keep-Promises-It-Was-Supposed-To). This bill could really benefit the U.S. as a whole and would be beneficial from a personal and worldwide standpoint.

  • Kane

    I personally agree with this bill. I am a strong believer in equal rights and I feel as if equal opportunity for immigrants can only potentially help the United States, whether this be in our self-owned businesses or our economy as a whole. This may make it more difficult to get a job, but it will make individuals work harder on a career or work harder to maintain work, therefore allowing the U.S. to flourish. There is a strong need for skilled workers, and the country would benefit from this bill (http://www.policymic.com/articles/24671/immigration-reform-2013-gang-of-8-bill-would-provide-pathway-to-citizenship). There have been some speculations on background checks performed prior to achieving citizenship, and citizens seem to be worried that it will cause more crime in the U.S. In reality, no immigrants will be allowed citizenship without passing the check and a second check could be installed just for safe measures (http://swampland.time.com/2013/04/19/immigration-reforms-first-big-test-the-boston-bombing/). Unfortunately there has not been much followup on my last point being a strengthened border control. If the U.S. would strengthen their borders safety would be much less of a concern and the fact that skilled immigrants were entering the country would be solidified (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/21/Gang-Of-Eight-Bill-Doesn-t-Keep-Promises-It-Was-Supposed-To). This bill could really benefit the U.S. as a whole and would be beneficial from a personal and worldwide standpoint.

  • Danielle_G_2

    I fully agree with the bill so far. I feel that the everyone of the undocumented workers should be given the chance for full citizenship but, I feel that the lengthy process of gaining citizenship will prove to be to much and many will not bother applying. Ten years to receive a green card then another three years to become a full citizen is a bit too much. Then we also have to take in the consideration that many immigrants are just here for work and many are not here to stay. Overall, I think that the bill still needs to be overviewed and thought out more in order to create a good system for immigration.

  • Danielle_G_2

    I fully agree with the bill so far. I feel that the everyone of the undocumented workers should be given the chance for full citizenship but, I feel that the lengthy process of gaining citizenship will prove to be to much and many will not bother applying. Ten years to receive a green card then another three years to become a full citizen is a bit too much. Then we also have to take in the consideration that many immigrants are just here for work and many are not here to stay. Overall, I think that the bill still needs to be overviewed and thought out more in order to create a good system for immigration.

  • Delaney_D_2

    If they allow the 11 million people to get a U.S. membership, of course it would increase the U.S. population, but giving someone an opportunity to live here legally, is the best thing to offer in our power. Just trying to be specific because the word “affect” could be taken very broadly. I think that if these immigrants get a membership, it could possibly decrease the amount of jobs we can get.

    • sheldon_f_3

      Agreed, it will place a strain on the economy. It’s a tough issue, with one side being a civil-rights lovefest and the other being hardcore nationalists.

    • Allison_C_3

      I completely agree with you. I don’t think that immigrants should have the opportunity for a green card because if they really wanted to be here, then they would have waited to do so legally. I also agree with what you said about “affect” and how it could be taken broadly. Sometimes it doesn’t just affect the people around them, but it affects the whole country economically.

  • Delaney_D_2

    If they allow the 11 million people to get a U.S. membership, of course it would increase the U.S. population, but giving someone an opportunity to live here legally, is the best thing to offer in our power. Just trying to be specific because the word “affect” could be taken very broadly. I think that if these immigrants get a membership, it could possibly decrease the amount of jobs we can get.

    • sheldon_f_3

      Agreed, it will place a strain on the economy. It’s a tough issue, with one side being a civil-rights lovefest and the other being hardcore nationalists.

    • Allison_C_3

      I completely agree with you. I don’t think that immigrants should have the opportunity for a green card because if they really wanted to be here, then they would have waited to do so legally. I also agree with what you said about “affect” and how it could be taken broadly. Sometimes it doesn’t just affect the people around them, but it affects the whole country economically.

  • Zac_Shcneider_2

    Daniel_G_2 I will have to agree with you on your statement on how you think the bill that is to be passed is almost correct. I too believe that the bill is to lengthy because by the thirteen years that is over the man or woman will probably have already gotten used to this government and learned everything to become a citizen by the time they even qualify to start the three year process. Another reason is because the bill also requires that some people will have to leave if they do not do this because they will not be citizens. This bill could even put parents away from their children and have them put up for adoption against the parents will forcing families apart. It has already been happening so far and will continue even more if this bill for immigration reform is passed.

  • Zac_Shcneider_2

    Daniel_G_2 I will have to agree with you on your statement on how you think the bill that is to be passed is almost correct. I too believe that the bill is to lengthy because by the thirteen years that is over the man or woman will probably have already gotten used to this government and learned everything to become a citizen by the time they even qualify to start the three year process. Another reason is because the bill also requires that some people will have to leave if they do not do this because they will not be citizens. This bill could even put parents away from their children and have them put up for adoption against the parents will forcing families apart. It has already been happening so far and will continue even more if this bill for immigration reform is passed.

  • Zac_Shcneider_2

    Daniel_G_2 I will have to agree with you on your statement on how you think the bill that is to be passed is almost correct. I too believe that the bill is to lengthy because by the thirteen years that is over the man or woman will probably have already gotten used to this government and learned everything to become a citizen by the time they even qualify to start the three year process. Another reason is because the bill also requires that some people will have to leave if they do not do this because they will not be citizens. This bill could even put parents away from their children and have them put up for adoption against the parents will forcing families apart. It has already been happening so far and will continue even more if this bill for immigration reform is passed.

  • Jeremy C

    I think that some aspects of this bill are reasonable. Making it easier to legally immigrate to the US is a good idea. However, I don’t agree in providing amnesty to illegal immigrants. We don’t just let people out of prison, regardless if they have changed or if they have a good work ethic. Likewise, it is a bad idea to grant citizenship to immigrants.

    • Logan_Q_3

      I agree, they should make it easier to become a citizen, they still need to make it so that you have to go through something to prove yourself to not be a terrorist or a criminal so they shouldn’t make it instant but they should make it easier so people are less inclined to come illegally.

    • Brian_L_3

      I agree to the point where immigrants can have a easier way to legally come to the US but illegal immigrants should have a chance for citizenship if only they earned it, such as not committing crimes.

      • Toral_P#4

        I agree to what Brian said because if you are or if you are not an immigrant you should have a chance to come to America as long as you have not done anything bad or legal. I think we should give everyone a chance because maybe some people can’t afford it or has trouble getting over here. We should not say “no” to the people who want to come to have some freedom.

  • Jeremy C

    I think that some aspects of this bill are reasonable. Making it easier to legally immigrate to the US is a good idea. However, I don’t agree in providing amnesty to illegal immigrants. We don’t just let people out of prison, regardless if they have changed or if they have a good work ethic. Likewise, it is a bad idea to grant citizenship to immigrants.

    • Logan_Q_3

      I agree, they should make it easier to become a citizen, they still need to make it so that you have to go through something to prove yourself to not be a terrorist or a criminal so they shouldn’t make it instant but they should make it easier so people are less inclined to come illegally.

  • Jeremy C

    I think that some aspects of this bill are reasonable. Making it easier to legally immigrate to the US is a good idea. However, I don’t agree in providing amnesty to illegal immigrants. We don’t just let people out of prison, regardless if they have changed or if they have a good work ethic. Likewise, it is a bad idea to grant citizenship to immigrants.

    • Logan_Q_3

      I agree, they should make it easier to become a citizen, they still need to make it so that you have to go through something to prove yourself to not be a terrorist or a criminal so they shouldn’t make it instant but they should make it easier so people are less inclined to come illegally.

    • Brian_L_3

      I agree to the point where immigrants can have a easier way to legally come to the US but illegal immigrants should have a chance for citizenship if only they earned it, such as not committing crimes.

      • Toral_P#4

        I agree to what Brian said because if you are or if you are not an immigrant you should have a chance to come to America as long as you have not done anything bad or legal. I think we should give everyone a chance because maybe some people can’t afford it or has trouble getting over here. We should not say “no” to the people who want to come to have some freedom.

  • Jenna_T_2

    So far what I have seen of the bill I like. I just don’t understand why they are having to pay $500 just to apply for citizenship and it takes 10 years to get a visa? Then another 3 years to apply for citizenship? That’s too much. You never know what’s going to happen within those 10 years or 3 years. I believe that the immigrants that come here are here to work, but you should get a work visa if you are not going to stay. If you want to stay here get a job, apply for citizenship, and contribute to society. They just need their background checked to make sure we aren’t letting another criminal into the country. This is to protect the people that already live here and have made their home here. I think that they should go back and look at the time period just to receive a visa, apply for citizenship and the amount they have to pay. Make it more fair and easier for them to apply if they want to stay.

    • Kim_T_3

      I agree with you. The undocumented workers are eligible to take a faster path to apply for citizenship yet the people that wanted to come to US are having to wait for at least 10 years. What if in those ten years something happened to them? Then the whole waiting process would have just been a waist of time.

  • Jenna_T_2

    So far what I have seen of the bill I like. I just don’t understand why they are having to pay $500 just to apply for citizenship and it takes 10 years to get a visa? Then another 3 years to apply for citizenship? That’s too much. You never know what’s going to happen within those 10 years or 3 years. I believe that the immigrants that come here are here to work, but you should get a work visa if you are not going to stay. If you want to stay here get a job, apply for citizenship, and contribute to society. They just need their background checked to make sure we aren’t letting another criminal into the country. This is to protect the people that already live here and have made their home here. I think that they should go back and look at the time period just to receive a visa, apply for citizenship and the amount they have to pay. Make it more fair and easier for them to apply if they want to stay.

    • Kim_T_3

      I agree with you. The undocumented workers are eligible to take a faster path to apply for citizenship yet the people that wanted to come to US are having to wait for at least 10 years. What if in those ten years something happened to them? Then the whole waiting process would have just been a waist of time.

  • Jenna_T_2

    So far what I have seen of the bill I like. I just don’t understand why they are having to pay $500 just to apply for citizenship and it takes 10 years to get a visa? Then another 3 years to apply for citizenship? That’s too much. You never know what’s going to happen within those 10 years or 3 years. I believe that the immigrants that come here are here to work, but you should get a work visa if you are not going to stay. If you want to stay here get a job, apply for citizenship, and contribute to society. They just need their background checked to make sure we aren’t letting another criminal into the country. This is to protect the people that already live here and have made their home here. I think that they should go back and look at the time period just to receive a visa, apply for citizenship and the amount they have to pay. Make it more fair and easier for them to apply if they want to stay.

    • Kim_T_3

      I agree with you. The undocumented workers are eligible to take a faster path to apply for citizenship yet the people that wanted to come to US are having to wait for at least 10 years. What if in those ten years something happened to them? Then the whole waiting process would have just been a waist of time.

  • Nathan_S_2

    I can understand if you do want to get people out of the U.S because they are taking money from the taxpayers, but, you need to take into consideration the fact that they might have been here for a few years now. Some 50% of the illegal aliens that are here have been here for more than 5 years, I know that there has been a recent spike in illegal immigration over the last few years and that it caused this topic to become popular to talk about and debate about. I think that the best decision that the government can make is that we let the people who are currently here and have been here for more than 2 years, and have brought up a family here or brought a family from Mexico, to offer them citizenship and grant them their green cards. If a child was brought here and has been here with their family then they should be able to get their card too, If they were brought here under the age of 3 then they should get it automatically. The people who have been here for less than 2 years that they should have to go through the process of becoming a citizen the current way if they want to stay. If they don’t then we should gradually move them out of the country, what I mean by this is that we give them warnings for when they have to be out of the country, not like a 5 day warning, but a few month warning; and if they do not do leave in time then we start to intervene and sort of ‘push’ them out. Overall I agree with the bill being passed but think that if there were minor adjustments made then it would be the best possible way.

  • Nathan_S_2

    I can understand if you do want to get people out of the U.S because they are taking money from the taxpayers, but, you need to take into consideration the fact that they might have been here for a few years now. Some 50% of the illegal aliens that are here have been here for more than 5 years, I know that there has been a recent spike in illegal immigration over the last few years and that it caused this topic to become popular to talk about and debate about. I think that the best decision that the government can make is that we let the people who are currently here and have been here for more than 2 years, and have brought up a family here or brought a family from Mexico, to offer them citizenship and grant them their green cards. If a child was brought here and has been here with their family then they should be able to get their card too, If they were brought here under the age of 3 then they should get it automatically. The people who have been here for less than 2 years that they should have to go through the process of becoming a citizen the current way if they want to stay. If they don’t then we should gradually move them out of the country, what I mean by this is that we give them warnings for when they have to be out of the country, not like a 5 day warning, but a few month warning; and if they do not do leave in time then we start to intervene and sort of ‘push’ them out. Overall I agree with the bill being passed but think that if there were minor adjustments made then it would be the best possible way.

  • Cristal Monsibais

    I am glad that there are finally thinking about immigrants. I am glad that they have come tho their senses and finally have created a way for immigrants to get their green cards. But I think that they set the standards way too high. To have to pay a lot of money and wait an eternity is not fair. I think that they should either charge them a lot and wait longer. Or charge them less money and make them wait longer. Most of the immigrants that come here, only come to work. I also think that they should make stricter rules on how much money immigrants can send to their home countries. I think they are sending way too much money back to their homes. More than they spend here. I think that this is very unfair to Americans. Because it is helping their economy and ruining ours. I also think that the government needs to do a very through check on the person apply to get their green card. We want to make sure that we aren’t allowing criminals to stay in America.

  • Cristal Monsibais

    I am glad that there are finally thinking about immigrants. I am glad that they have come tho their senses and finally have created a way for immigrants to get their green cards. But I think that they set the standards way too high. To have to pay a lot of money and wait an eternity is not fair. I think that they should either charge them a lot and wait longer. Or charge them less money and make them wait longer. Most of the immigrants that come here, only come to work. I also think that they should make stricter rules on how much money immigrants can send to their home countries. I think they are sending way too much money back to their homes. More than they spend here. I think that this is very unfair to Americans. Because it is helping their economy and ruining ours. I also think that the government needs to do a very through check on the person apply to get their green card. We want to make sure that we aren’t allowing criminals to stay in America.

  • Cristal Monsibais

    I am glad that there are finally thinking about immigrants. I am glad that they have come tho their senses and finally have created a way for immigrants to get their green cards. But I think that they set the standards way too high. To have to pay a lot of money and wait an eternity is not fair. I think that they should either charge them a lot and wait longer. Or charge them less money and make them wait longer. Most of the immigrants that come here, only come to work. I also think that they should make stricter rules on how much money immigrants can send to their home countries. I think they are sending way too much money back to their homes. More than they spend here. I think that this is very unfair to Americans. Because it is helping their economy and ruining ours. I also think that the government needs to do a very through check on the person apply to get their green card. We want to make sure that we aren’t allowing criminals to stay in America.

  • Lauren Rudd

    I think that some people choose to believe things that aren’t necessarily true, but it makes them feel better about the controversial situation. In the passage, Sen. Chuck Schumer states that the bill is very balanced. Do you agree or disagree?

    • Kim_T_3

      for lauren rudd- I don’t think that the bill is very balanced. The undocumented worker that are already in the US is eligible for a faster path to citizenship but the people that wants to come to the US legally would have to wait for at least 10 years before they are eligible. It doesn’t seems right at all.

      • Carlie_P_4

        I agree with you Kim. The undocumented worker should have a longer waiting period to become a citizen because they came here illegally and did not come the right way. People who are applying for a citizenship should have a lot less of a waiting time because they are on the right path to getting a citizenship.

  • Lauren Rudd

    I think that some people choose to believe things that aren’t necessarily true, but it makes them feel better about the controversial situation. In the passage, Sen. Chuck Schumer states that the bill is very balanced. Do you agree or disagree?

    • Kim_T_3

      for lauren rudd- I don’t think that the bill is very balanced. The undocumented worker that are already in the US is eligible for a faster path to citizenship but the people that wants to come to the US legally would have to wait for at least 10 years before they are eligible. It doesn’t seems right at all.

      • Carlie_P_4

        I agree with you Kim. The undocumented worker should have a longer waiting period to become a citizen because they came here illegally and did not come the right way. People who are applying for a citizenship should have a lot less of a waiting time because they are on the right path to getting a citizenship.

  • Lauren Rudd

    I think that some people choose to believe things that aren’t necessarily true, but it makes them feel better about the controversial situation. In the passage, Sen. Chuck Schumer states that the bill is very balanced. Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

  • Lauren Rudd

    I think that some people choose to believe things that aren’t necessarily true, but it makes them feel better about the controversial situation. In the passage, Sen. Chuck Schumer states that the bill is very balanced. Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

  • Lauren Rudd

    I think that some people choose to believe things that aren’t necessarily true, but it makes them feel better about the controversial situation. In the passage, Sen. Chuck Schumer states that the bill is very balanced. Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

  • Brian_L_3

    I believe of the idea of having immigrants being allowed to come while still keeping the border safe. In my opinion, if illegal immigrants want to get a legal status, they should be approved in not a long period time like 10 years. They should have around half the time of the wait for becoming a citizen and they can have the privilege to apply but can lose the privilege of doing things like committing a huge crime.

  • Brian_L_3

    I believe of the idea of having immigrants being allowed to come while still keeping the border safe. In my opinion, if illegal immigrants want to get a legal status, they should be approved in not a long period time like 10 years. They should have around half the time of the wait for becoming a citizen and they can have the privilege to apply but can lose the privilege of doing things like committing a huge crime.

  • sheldon_f_3

    Reagen tried the same thing.

    I say this because he promised green cards and faster citizenship in exchange for a fence-they gave a bunch of illegals alibis, then didn’t build a fence.

    I really think that “Immigration Reform” should focus more on making it easier for legal immigrants and make the punishment harsher on illegal workers, deporting them, etc.

    In a nutshell: Come in legally or don’t come in at all.

    • Logan_Q_3

      I agree they should do something about all the illegal immigrants and one way it to deport them. But there should be a way for the ones already here to get a citizenship so they don’t have to get deported from their family.

    • Janelle Bence

      Sheldon_f_3,
      I am wondering how you could facilitate a dialogue to welcome various viewpoints? By doing so, you would demonstrate global citizenship. Any ideas?
      Bence

    • Peter_B_4

      I could not agree more.

  • sheldon_f_3

    Reagen tried the same thing.

    I say this because he promised green cards and faster citizenship in exchange for a fence-they gave a bunch of illegals alibis, then didn’t build a fence.

    I really think that “Immigration Reform” should focus more on making it easier for legal immigrants and make the punishment harsher on illegal workers, deporting them, etc.

    In a nutshell: Come in legally or don’t come in at all.

    • Logan_Q_3

      I agree they should do something about all the illegal immigrants and one way it to deport them. But there should be a way for the ones already here to get a citizenship so they don’t have to get deported from their family.

    • Janelle Bence

      Sheldon_f_3,
      I am wondering how you could facilitate a dialogue to welcome various viewpoints? By doing so, you would demonstrate global citizenship. Any ideas?
      Bence

  • sheldon_f_3

    Reagen tried the same thing.

    I say this because he promised green cards and faster citizenship in exchange for a fence-they gave a bunch of illegals alibis, then didn’t build a fence.

    I really think that “Immigration Reform” should focus more on making it easier for legal immigrants and make the punishment harsher on illegal workers, deporting them, etc.

    In a nutshell: Come in legally or don’t come in at all.

    • Logan_Q_3

      I agree they should do something about all the illegal immigrants and one way it to deport them. But there should be a way for the ones already here to get a citizenship so they don’t have to get deported from their family.

    • Janelle Bence

      Sheldon_f_3,
      I am wondering how you could facilitate a dialogue to welcome various viewpoints? By doing so, you would demonstrate global citizenship. Any ideas?
      Bence

    • Peter_B_4

      I could not agree more.

  • Kim_T_3

    I do not agree with the bill. This bill makes the process of applying for immigration harder, longer, and more expensive. I don’t think that people should wait for at least 10 years before they are eligible for citizenship. Plus the undocumented worker that are already in the US is basically getting rewarded. They are eligible to receive a faster path to citizenship. Overall, this bill is not terrible but there definitely needs to be some changes to it.

    • Maddie_C_4

      While the process may become more expensive, do you think that could be due to the fact that the government has to hire and pay more people to look through the paperwork? If so, doesn’t that improve the economy by creating more jobs?

      • Jaime_A_3

        I agree with both of you, Maddie and Kim. Although i disagree with the bill, Maddie brings up a good point. We are going to need people to check the paperwork which will provide more jobs, but how does that fix the problem which allows undocumented citizens to become US citizens before the people who are applying from their own country. Sen. Chuck Schumer said in paragraph 2 “This is a very balanced bill,”but i disagree with this statement. How is having undocumented workers having easier path to citizenship, balanced?

  • Kim_T_3

    I do not agree with the bill. This bill makes the process of applying for immigration harder, longer, and more expensive. I don’t think that people should wait for at least 10 years before they are eligible for citizenship. Plus the undocumented worker that are already in the US is basically getting rewarded. They are eligible to receive a faster path to citizenship. Overall, this bill is not terrible but there definitely needs to be some changes to it.

    • Maddie_C_4

      While the process may become more expensive, do you think that could be due to the fact that the government has to hire and pay more people to look through the paperwork? If so, doesn’t that improve the economy by creating more jobs?

      • Jaime_A_3

        I agree with both of you, Maddie and Kim. Although i disagree with the bill, Maddie brings up a good point. We are going to need people to check the paperwork which will provide more jobs, but how does that fix the problem which allows undocumented citizens to become US citizens before the people who are applying from their own country. Sen. Chuck Schumer said in paragraph 2 “This is a very balanced bill,”but i disagree with this statement. How is having undocumented workers having easier path to citizenship, balanced?

  • Samantha_F_3

    Immigration is a very hot topic, and there are so many things that have made it become “bad” This bill addresses many issues, but my question is, what problems will it create? While I like that both democrats and republicans worked together and this bill is very balanced as stated in the article, but all actions have a reaction, so will the reaction to this bill be a good one? Another thing is, the new citizenship process is only for immigrants who entered this country before December 31, 201, but that is not slowing down the amount of illegal immigrants. Strengthening the borders will help, but as humans we find ways to get around obstacles. People come to this country illegally because the process of coming legally is very long and hard. Making it easier for people who have been here since before 2012 does not fix the issues of today, but rather justifies peoples actions in the past. So while this bill will do some good, it will not fix everything.

  • Samantha_F_3

    Immigration is a very hot topic, and there are so many things that have made it become “bad” This bill addresses many issues, but my question is, what problems will it create? While I like that both democrats and republicans worked together and this bill is very balanced as stated in the article, but all actions have a reaction, so will the reaction to this bill be a good one? Another thing is, the new citizenship process is only for immigrants who entered this country before December 31, 201, but that is not slowing down the amount of illegal immigrants. Strengthening the borders will help, but as humans we find ways to get around obstacles. People come to this country illegally because the process of coming legally is very long and hard. Making it easier for people who have been here since before 2012 does not fix the issues of today, but rather justifies peoples actions in the past. So while this bill will do some good, it will not fix everything.

  • Logan_Q_3

    I think that there should be a way to make it easier to become a citizen because people will be less likely to come illegally and when that happens they can be taxed and that can better the economy in America. I don’t think that they should make it instant or too quick to become one because that could end up a problem like criminals coming over and there being no background checks.

    • Vincent_E_4

      I agree with you Logan_Q, considering our current system makes it take 10+ years to actually achieve citizenship. Though this is a problem, it has been a problem for a long time, and we have had a big time frame to change this, but we havent as much as we should have. We have criminals and other bad people coming across the border legally and illegally, if they choose to do something illegal has nothing to do with their crossing of the border, unless it is to run from the law of that particular country. We should have a fast system, but not one that takes only a few minutes, but more like a few months, it’s still a lot better than waiting years for it.

  • Logan_Q_3

    I think that there should be a way to make it easier to become a citizen because people will be less likely to come illegally and when that happens they can be taxed and that can better the economy in America. I don’t think that they should make it instant or too quick to become one because that could end up a problem like criminals coming over and there being no background checks.

    • Vincent_E_4

      I agree with you Logan_Q, considering our current system makes it take 10+ years to actually achieve citizenship. Though this is a problem, it has been a problem for a long time, and we have had a big time frame to change this, but we havent as much as we should have. We have criminals and other bad people coming across the border legally and illegally, if they choose to do something illegal has nothing to do with their crossing of the border, unless it is to run from the law of that particular country. We should have a fast system, but not one that takes only a few minutes, but more like a few months, it’s still a lot better than waiting years for it.

  • Logan_Q_3

    I think that there should be a way to make it easier to become a citizen because people will be less likely to come illegally and when that happens they can be taxed and that can better the economy in America. I don’t think that they should make it instant or too quick to become one because that could end up a problem like criminals coming over and there being no background checks.

  • Trevor Onstott

    If this bill does everything that they are saying then I am totally for it. I like how they are looking out for the kids (DREAMers) and making sure they have a chance at life. I wonder why they say non- agricultural workers. Anyway I do agree with what they are wanting to do because it sounds like they have a good plan that is well thought out.

    • yash_a_4

      I totally agree with the term Dreamers in this context because everyone deserves a chance to prove themselves. This bill makes it so that they have that second chance they wanted in the for a long time.

  • Trevor Onstott

    If this bill does everything that they are saying then I am totally for it. I like how they are looking out for the kids (DREAMers) and making sure they have a chance at life. I wonder why they say non- agricultural workers. Anyway I do agree with what they are wanting to do because it sounds like they have a good plan that is well thought out.

    • yash_a_4

      I totally agree with the term Dreamers in this context because everyone deserves a chance to prove themselves. This bill makes it so that they have that second chance they wanted in the for a long time.

  • Trevor Onstott

    If this bill does everything that they are saying then I am totally for it. I like how they are looking out for the kids (DREAMers) and making sure they have a chance at life. I wonder why they say non- agricultural workers. Anyway I do agree with what they are wanting to do because it sounds like they have a good plan that is well thought out.

  • Anthony

    i think there should be a much easier way to reseve a green card because if there was there would not be so many people looking for jobs and crossing the border

    • Kelvin_H_3

      I agree with Anthony about making the green card have more of a shorter term then it is now. But the problem with doing so is that if they would ,but is a lot of process of getting a green card and with maybe millions of people in line for a green card it is even more time being expanded for that specific other person in line. If this bill would be passed it will pretty much let the undocumented workers a shorter time for a green card, letting more of the illegal immigrants cut in line of people that was waiting for a longer period of time to show how this bill is very not much of use.

  • Anthony

    i think there should be a much easier way to reseve a green card because if there was there would not be so many people looking for jobs and crossing the border

    • Kelvin_H_3

      I agree with Anthony about making the green card have more of a shorter term then it is now. But the problem with doing so is that if they would ,but is a lot of process of getting a green card and with maybe millions of people in line for a green card it is even more time being expanded for that specific other person in line. If this bill would be passed it will pretty much let the undocumented workers a shorter time for a green card, letting more of the illegal immigrants cut in line of people that was waiting for a longer period of time to show how this bill is very not much of use.

  • Anthony

    i think there should be a much easier way to reseve a green card because if there was there would not be so many people looking for jobs and crossing the border

  • Anthony

    i also think they should put more money into school suplies instead of the border

    • Toral_P#4

      Anthony, why do you think they should put more money into school supplies instead of the border? Could you please elaborate some more. Do you think that having paper and pencil is more important than making a border? I am not saying you are wrong but I just wanted to know a reason why you thought that!

    • Peter_B_4

      There are many problems that need to be adressed in this country like education but immigration is a bigger and more costly problem than education at the moment. immigration is more of a priority at the moment but when the U.S. does come to a solution education will be next.

  • Anthony

    i also think they should put more money into school suplies instead of the border

    • Toral_P#4

      Anthony, why do you think they should put more money into school supplies instead of the border? Could you please elaborate some more. Do you think that having paper and pencil is more important than making a border? I am not saying you are wrong but I just wanted to know a reason why you thought that!

    • Peter_B_4

      There are many problems that need to be adressed in this country like education but immigration is a bigger and more costly problem than education at the moment. immigration is more of a priority at the moment but when the U.S. does come to a solution education will be next.

  • Alex_C_#3

    “Their immigration reform bill is a trade off between the four Republicans and four Democrats allowing many of the 11 million undocumented immigrants to seek U.S. citizenship, in exchange for way stricter border security standards”(PP2 Einhorn).

    According to the quote above, both Republicans and Democrats made this decision together. Both parties of our government have came together to find a solution to our immigration problem. Looking at this sentence, about 11 million undocumented workers will become a legal immigrant. What is your say on this?

    • Nathan_S_2

      For Alex_C_3

      I think that this is a good thing that Republicans and Democrats are working together but I think that if 11 million people become citizens that it might do some bad work for our economy. If they come in and start to pay taxes, that will be good, but what about the years that hadn’t paid taxes? I think that we need to make them slowly pay back what they took from us through not paying taxes. They could pay it back bit by bit, kind of like a mortgage but it would be giving back what they got from not paying. That is just my opinion, it might not be the fastest way, but it would be easier on them if it was like that.

  • Alex_C_#3

    “Their immigration reform bill is a trade off between the four Republicans and four Democrats allowing many of the 11 million undocumented immigrants to seek U.S. citizenship, in exchange for way stricter border security standards”(PP2 Einhorn).

    According to the quote above, both Republicans and Democrats made this decision together. Both parties of our government have came together to find a solution to our immigration problem. Looking at this sentence, about 11 million undocumented workers will become a legal immigrant. What is your say on this?

    • Nathan_S_2

      For Alex_C_3

      I think that this is a good thing that Republicans and Democrats are working together but I think that if 11 million people become citizens that it might do some bad work for our economy. If they come in and start to pay taxes, that will be good, but what about the years that hadn’t paid taxes? I think that we need to make them slowly pay back what they took from us through not paying taxes. They could pay it back bit by bit, kind of like a mortgage but it would be giving back what they got from not paying. That is just my opinion, it might not be the fastest way, but it would be easier on them if it was like that.

  • Jaime_A_3

    I do not agree with this bill. Why is fair that undocumented workers, who have basically cut in line have an easier path to citizenship? People who are taking the right way, have to wait a lot longer and pay a higher tax. I do agree that is important that we some what increase Americans population, but i do not believe this bill is the most efficient way.

  • Jaime_A_3

    I do not agree with this bill. Why is fair that undocumented workers, who have basically cut in line have an easier path to citizenship? People who are taking the right way, have to wait a lot longer and pay a higher tax. I do agree that is important that we some what increase Americans population, but i do not believe this bill is the most efficient way.

    • Kelvin_H_3

      I agree with Jaime about the immigration reform bill being able to be proposed to the conflict, it’s not the right way to go about with the problem. As the Sen. Chuck Schumer, the lead Democratic negotiator saying it is “well balanced.” Yet the bill has defects about where the undocumented workers be able to some what cheat there way to have a citizenship unlike others who are striving in line to becoming a legal citizen. Why is it right for the illegal immigrants to be able to cut in line so easily?

  • Jaime_A_3

    I do not agree with this bill. Why is fair that undocumented workers, who have basically cut in line have an easier path to citizenship? People who are taking the right way, have to wait a lot longer and pay a higher tax. I do agree that is important that we some what increase Americans population, but i do not believe this bill is the most efficient way.

    • Kelvin_H_3

      I agree with Jaime about the immigration reform bill being able to be proposed to the conflict, it’s not the right way to go about with the problem. As the Sen. Chuck Schumer, the lead Democratic negotiator saying it is “well balanced.” Yet the bill has defects about where the undocumented workers be able to some what cheat there way to have a citizenship unlike others who are striving in line to becoming a legal citizen. Why is it right for the illegal immigrants to be able to cut in line so easily?

  • Alex Hansgen

    I think that everyone should be given a chance to become an American Citizen. This country was built by immigrants and will continue to be built up by them. I know an immigrant and hes pretty chill. #KQEDdonow @rapoch

  • Alex Hansgen

    I think that everyone should be given a chance to become an American Citizen. This country was built by immigrants and will continue to be built up by them. I know an immigrant and hes pretty chill. #KQEDdonow @rapoch

  • Alex_C_#3

    “The American people have told us to do two things. One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration. And that’s what our bill does”(PP3 Einhorn).

    According to paragraph 3, we will now have a solution to our immigration problem. Both parties of our government, Republicans and Democrats, came together to get the job done. For so long, the U.S has had trouble with illegal immigration, legal immigration, and undocumented workers. Little did they know that immigration is what made America what it is today because some how we are all connected to immigration. Staying on the topic of immigration might as well stop the problem now rather than in the future when it’s even worse. Think about how much this bill may actually cost for us. Aren’t we already in debt already?
    There will be pros and cons all the way through, but all I want is the best for America and our future. My opinion on immigration can go either way, but what is your opinion? We are the future faces of America and we need to start turning our weaknesses into strengths. Another thing we need to do is find a solution to every problem, and that’s what they have here. Will this bill make America even stronger or will we start going downhill?

  • Alex_C_#3

    “The American people have told us to do two things. One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration. And that’s what our bill does”(PP3 Einhorn).

    According to paragraph 3, we will now have a solution to our immigration problem. Both parties of our government, Republicans and Democrats, came together to get the job done. For so long, the U.S has had trouble with illegal immigration, legal immigration, and undocumented workers. Little did they know that immigration is what made America what it is today because some how we are all connected to immigration. Staying on the topic of immigration might as well stop the problem now rather than in the future when it’s even worse. Think about how much this bill may actually cost for us. Aren’t we already in debt already?
    There will be pros and cons all the way through, but all I want is the best for America and our future. My opinion on immigration can go either way, but what is your opinion? We are the future faces of America and we need to start turning our weaknesses into strengths. Another thing we need to do is find a solution to every problem, and that’s what they have here. Will this bill make America even stronger or will we start going downhill?

  • Alex_C_#3

    “The American people have told us to do two things. One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration. And that’s what our bill does”(PP3 Einhorn).

    According to paragraph 3, we will now have a solution to our immigration problem. Both parties of our government, Republicans and Democrats, came together to get the job done. For so long, the U.S has had trouble with illegal immigration, legal immigration, and undocumented workers. Little did they know that immigration is what made America what it is today because some how we are all connected to immigration. Staying on the topic of immigration might as well stop the problem now rather than in the future when it’s even worse. Think about how much this bill may actually cost for us. Aren’t we already in debt already?
    There will be pros and cons all the way through, but all I want is the best for America and our future. My opinion on immigration can go either way, but what is your opinion? We are the future faces of America and we need to start turning our weaknesses into strengths. Another thing we need to do is find a solution to every problem, and that’s what they have here. Will this bill make America even stronger or will we start going downhill?

  • Tyler Poe

    Immigration has been a hot topic in politics for quite a while, back to before world war 2 or even world war 1. But what i believe needs to happen is that for people who do come here legally, looking solely for the oppurtunity of a better life for themselves and there families, i think it should be easier for them to gain citizenship. If we make them wait, they are only gaining dislike and distrust for the system because the will feel neglected by the system that they came here to be a part of. #KQEDdonow@rapoch

    • Frankie_M_4

      I agree it is insane how long it take’s to gain citizenships. If I were one of them and it has taken more then a year i would think they just blew me off.

  • Tyler Poe

    Immigration has been a hot topic in politics for quite a while, back to before world war 2 or even world war 1. But what i believe needs to happen is that for people who do come here legally, looking solely for the oppurtunity of a better life for themselves and there families, i think it should be easier for them to gain citizenship. If we make them wait, they are only gaining dislike and distrust for the system because the will feel neglected by the system that they came here to be a part of. #KQEDdonow@rapoch

    • Frankie_M_4

      I agree it is insane how long it take’s to gain citizenships. If I were one of them and it has taken more then a year i would think they just blew me off.

  • Tyler Poe

    Immigration has been a hot topic in politics for quite a while, back to before world war 2 or even world war 1. But what i believe needs to happen is that for people who do come here legally, looking solely for the oppurtunity of a better life for themselves and there families, i think it should be easier for them to gain citizenship. If we make them wait, they are only gaining dislike and distrust for the system because the will feel neglected by the system that they came here to be a part of. #KQEDdonow@rapoch

    • Frankie_M_4

      I agree it is insane how long it take’s to gain citizenships. If I were one of them and it has taken more then a year i would think they just blew me off.

  • Nicholas_B_4

    I personally think we should make a stricter approach towards immigration towards the united states, but I do agree with the proposed immigration bill, I think that immigrants coming to america should be forced to pay higher taxes as well as undocumented immigrants that are being deported should pay a fine and then get deported

    • eric_d_4

      Nicholas_B_4, I do not agree with you when you say “should pay a fine and then get deported”. I don’t think that it is necessary to make the immigrants pay a fee before they get deported. They are already captured and they are already being deported, and some might not even have any money at all and could be living in poverty if living properly at all.

  • Nicholas_B_4

    I personally think we should make a stricter approach towards immigration towards the united states, but I do agree with the proposed immigration bill, I think that immigrants coming to america should be forced to pay higher taxes as well as undocumented immigrants that are being deported should pay a fine and then get deported

  • Nicholas_B_4

    I personally think we should make a stricter approach towards immigration towards the united states, but I do agree with the proposed immigration bill, I think that immigrants coming to america should be forced to pay higher taxes as well as undocumented immigrants that are being deported should pay a fine and then get deported

    • eric_d_4

      Nicholas_B_4, I do not agree with you when you say “should pay a fine and then get deported”. I don’t think that it is necessary to make the immigrants pay a fee before they get deported. They are already captured and they are already being deported, and some might not even have any money at all and could be living in poverty if living properly at all.

  • Alex_C_#3

    “Young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers, would receive a faster path to citizenship”(PP7 Einhorn).

    With this quote from paragraph 7, DREAMers are known as young undocumented immigrant brought to the United States as a child. Do you think these DREAMers should become legal citizens of the U.S or not? Also we see that they’ll get to become a citizen faster than other immigrants. How could this benefit them, others, and us?

    • Janelle Bence

      What great questions to consider! Thank you!

      • Julia

        I think this granting citizenship to young people could benefit everyone in an important way. Those who were brought here as children will have an opportunity to work, and more than anything get federal aid for college. Education is the key to becoming successful and kids without residency are not eligible for government grants which makes it impossible for many to afford a higher education. Many teenagers and young people without documentation have lived in the U.S. for the vast majority of their lives. They don’t know anywhere else as home. We shouldn’t punish them for a decision that was made out of their control.

      • Toral_P#4

        When you asked the question do you think these DREAMers should become legal citizens of the U.S or not? It really made me think because all people have the right to DREAM and if there dream was to come to America then why not? If they sent a file and get a green card then I think they should be allowed but if they are coming legally then I dont think I would want them to come because they could go to jail and get in some serious trouble.

    • Chinma_O_2

      @Alex_C_#3 In response to your question “Do you think these DREAMers should become legal citizens of the U.S or not?” I think that they deserve a chance to get a citizenship. they didn’t have a choice of coming here or not. Now that they know the US as their home and birth place we can’t just deport them with out hearing their voice on this.

  • Alex_C_#3

    “Young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers, would receive a faster path to citizenship”(PP7 Einhorn).

    With this quote from paragraph 7, DREAMers are known as young undocumented immigrant brought to the United States as a child. Do you think these DREAMers should become legal citizens of the U.S or not? Also we see that they’ll get to become a citizen faster than other immigrants. How could this benefit them, others, and us?

    • Janelle Bence

      What great questions to consider! Thank you!

      • Julia

        I think this granting citizenship to young people could benefit everyone in an important way. Those who were brought here as children will have an opportunity to work, and more than anything get federal aid for college. Education is the key to becoming successful and kids without residency are not eligible for government grants which makes it impossible for many to afford a higher education. Many teenagers and young people without documentation have lived in the U.S. for the vast majority of their lives. They don’t know anywhere else as home. We shouldn’t punish them for a decision that was made out of their control.

      • Toral_P#4

        When you asked the question do you think these DREAMers should become legal citizens of the U.S or not? It really made me think because all people have the right to DREAM and if there dream was to come to America then why not? If they sent a file and get a green card then I think they should be allowed but if they are coming legally then I dont think I would want them to come because they could go to jail and get in some serious trouble.

    • Chinma_O_2

      @Alex_C_#3 In response to your question “Do you think these DREAMers should become legal citizens of the U.S or not?” I think that they deserve a chance to get a citizenship. they didn’t have a choice of coming here or not. Now that they know the US as their home and birth place we can’t just deport them with out hearing their voice on this.

  • Frankie_M_4

    I feel we need to make citizenship a faster process because some people cant wait over a year for it and will just make them anxious and eventually they will just sneak across.

  • Frankie_M_4

    I feel we need to make citizenship a faster process because some people cant wait over a year for it and will just make them anxious and eventually they will just sneak across.

    • Vincent_E_4

      Citizenship doesn’t take over a year, it takes over 10 years usually to get full citizenship, whether or not you are talking about visas or work papers, I am not sure, but actual citizenship does need a quicker process, because 10 years to try and gain the opportunities of the future is just a bit too much.

    • John_O_1

      Frankie_M_4

      I agree I believe immigration reforme is needed. But I also think 10 years to get a green card is appropriate because that’s what every one else has to do to become a citizen. Before I totally disapprove it, I would like to know more on the other side of the compromise, the border. I would like to know if they want to do a fence or add more people, motion censers, cameras, or what ever they are doing. I would like to have a fence I think that would do a good job, but I think it is too much money foe a fence they way America builds there fences.

  • Frankie_M_4

    I feel we need to make citizenship a faster process because some people cant wait over a year for it and will just make them anxious and eventually they will just sneak across.

    • Vincent_E_4

      Citizenship doesn’t take over a year, it takes over 10 years usually to get full citizenship, whether or not you are talking about visas or work papers, I am not sure, but actual citizenship does need a quicker process, because 10 years to try and gain the opportunities of the future is just a bit too much.

    • John_O_1

      Frankie_M_4

      I agree I believe immigration reforme is needed. But I also think 10 years to get a green card is appropriate because that’s what every one else has to do to become a citizen. Before I totally disapprove it, I would like to know more on the other side of the compromise, the border. I would like to know if they want to do a fence or add more people, motion censers, cameras, or what ever they are doing. I would like to have a fence I think that would do a good job, but I think it is too much money foe a fence they way America builds there fences.

  • Maddie_C_4

    The article on the bill, addressed the idea of preventing the future flow of illegal immigration and coming up with a common sense solution for legal immigration, but not specifically how the bill would do so. For example, the bill states that they will make the border stronger, but they don’t tell you if they will be putting up a stronger fence or adding more security. Although I think that the bill could be a really good thing, there is no way of knowing without seeing more of the details.

    • eric_d_4

      I agree with Maddie_C_4. She pointed out that they didn’t say how they were going to make the border stronger. I do think that it is important to know how they are doing this.

    • sneha_k_3

      Maddie_C_4,

      You must keep in mind that this article is not the bill, and that this article is a condensed version of the bill meant to give information for readers to answer the “Do Now” questions. I believe that the article is missing many details about the bill that are necessary for readers to develop an understanding of the bill. The bill does have potential, and with further research you can find specifics about different topics.

      Specifically regarding border control, my research shows that the bill will increase the number of surveillance vehicles/equipment and will increase the number of border patrol agents.

  • Maddie_C_4

    The article on the bill, addressed the idea of preventing the future flow of illegal immigration and coming up with a common sense solution for legal immigration, but not specifically how the bill would do so. For example, the bill states that they will make the border stronger, but they don’t tell you if they will be putting up a stronger fence or adding more security. Although I think that the bill could be a really good thing, there is no way of knowing without seeing more of the details.

  • Maddie_C_4

    The article on the bill, addressed the idea of preventing the future flow of illegal immigration and coming up with a common sense solution for legal immigration, but not specifically how the bill would do so. For example, the bill states that they will make the border stronger, but they don’t tell you if they will be putting up a stronger fence or adding more security. Although I think that the bill could be a really good thing, there is no way of knowing without seeing more of the details.

    • eric_d_4

      I agree with Maddie_C_4. She pointed out that they didn’t say how they were going to make the border stronger. I do think that it is important to know how they are doing this.

    • sneha_k_3

      Maddie_C_4,

      You must keep in mind that this article is not the bill, and that this article is a condensed version of the bill meant to give information for readers to answer the “Do Now” questions. I believe that the article is missing many details about the bill that are necessary for readers to develop an understanding of the bill. The bill does have potential, and with further research you can find specifics about different topics.

      Specifically regarding border control, my research shows that the bill will increase the number of surveillance vehicles/equipment and will increase the number of border patrol agents.

  • Julia

    While I am very happy to see progress being made on immigration, I think the bill will make it difficult for current immigrants because of the long wait to obtain a green card.

    “To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. ” (Einhorn)

    I fully understand that background checks are a necessity, however I think there are a lot of unnecessary hurdles put in front of those looking to gain residency. Also, I think border security would not have to be increased if there was a simple, accessible way for immigrants to come here legally. Those who argue that undocumented immigrants don’t contribute to taxes forget that if they were granted residency they would pay taxes like everyone else.

    As a teenager, I have friends who are affected by the current immigration system whether it is them or their parents. It breaks my heart to see how much they struggle and how life would be easier if they just had a simple piece of paper. They have lived in the U.S. for 20+ years and yet are still not recognized as residents. Something has to change.

  • Julia

    While I am very happy to see progress being made on immigration, I think the bill will make it difficult for current immigrants because of the long wait to obtain a green card.

    “To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. ” (Einhorn)

    I fully understand that background checks are a necessity, however I think there are a lot of unnecessary hurdles put in front of those looking to gain residency. Also, I think border security would not have to be increased if there was a simple, accessible way for immigrants to come here legally. Those who argue that undocumented immigrants don’t contribute to taxes forget that if they were granted residency they would pay taxes like everyone else.

    As a teenager, I have friends who are affected by the current immigration system whether it is them or their parents. It breaks my heart to see how much they struggle and how life would be easier if they just had a simple piece of paper. They have lived in the U.S. for 20+ years and yet are still not recognized as residents. Something has to change.

  • Julia

    While I am very happy to see progress being made on immigration, I think the bill will make it difficult for current immigrants because of the long wait to obtain a green card.

    “To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. ” (Einhorn)

    I fully understand that background checks are a necessity, however I think there are a lot of unnecessary hurdles put in front of those looking to gain residency. Also, I think border security would not have to be increased if there was a simple, accessible way for immigrants to come here legally. Those who argue that undocumented immigrants don’t contribute to taxes forget that if they were granted residency they would pay taxes like everyone else.

    As a teenager, I have friends who are affected by the current immigration system whether it is them or their parents. It breaks my heart to see how much they struggle and how life would be easier if they just had a simple piece of paper. They have lived in the U.S. for 20+ years and yet are still not recognized as residents. Something has to change.

  • Nelson Massengale

    I believe that the path to citizenship should be a lot harder for certain people, although it is hard already for some people, there are certain immigrants that work hard that deserve to be citizens. There are immigrants tha work harder than some citizens so I believe that’s something to be takin into consideration.

    • yash_a_4

      I don’t agree with you Nelson Massengale, the path way to citizenship should be easier because if you were in the immigrants shoes you would want to get that citizenship as fast as possible to support your family. Since the American government can’t tell the difference between who deserves a citizenship and who doesn’t; they should just make getting a citizenship as easy as possible.

  • Nelson Massengale

    I believe that the path to citizenship should be a lot harder for certain people, although it is hard already for some people, there are certain immigrants that work hard that deserve to be citizens. There are immigrants tha work harder than some citizens so I believe that’s something to be takin into consideration.

  • Nelson Massengale

    I believe that the path to citizenship should be a lot harder for certain people, although it is hard already for some people, there are certain immigrants that work hard that deserve to be citizens. There are immigrants tha work harder than some citizens so I believe that’s something to be takin into consideration.

    • yash_a_4

      I don’t agree with you Nelson Massengale, the path way to citizenship should be easier because if you were in the immigrants shoes you would want to get that citizenship as fast as possible to support your family. Since the American government can’t tell the difference between who deserves a citizenship and who doesn’t; they should just make getting a citizenship as easy as possible.

  • raimundo

    Everyone should except criminals. It works out the way it is proposed and i feel that it is fair.

    • Trevor_O_3

      I disagree with Raimundo because I honestly wouldn’t want to have criminals around me knowing that they could commit a crime involving me. I also don’t think it is fair to you surrounding yourself with criminals, this will give you bad habits because they are bad influences. The reason we have laws is so that nothing bad happens.

    • berkeley_b_1

      I think that this idea to make immigration easier is going to help our country a lot. Making it easier to be apart of this country will allow for less undocumented workers. If it’s very difficult, which it is, to become legal, the undocumented workers won’t want to wait that long, and will just continue to stay illegal. I think that it is a phenomenal idea that both political parties are coming together, and making one compromised decision. Since immigration reformation is a big deal in the United States, it has been changing the country. The country is gaining more and more population and worse and worse economy causing the country to go down hill and offering fewer opportunities to the legal U.S. citizens and making everything worse. This bill applies to this by helping keep the legal immigrants inside the borderlines and keeping the illegal immigrants out, helping our nation go back to what it started out as.

      • berkeley_b_1

        Dear Raimundo,
        You say that everyone should accept criminals. What do you mean? Yes I do understand that we should be forgiving and except people from their mistakes but also it is not fair to the rest of the world. This country doesn’t just “work out” with out the hard work from the people and those who are trying to make our country a better place. Accepting those criminals will just make everything that “works out” that much harder. If by accepting you mean accept them as a person that is completely understandable, but when having undocumented works you don’t know their history from the other country. I am just giving a response to show you that it is not always fair to the rest of the citizens in this country.

  • raimundo

    Everyone should except criminals. It works out the way it is proposed and i feel that it is fair.

    • Trevor_O_3

      I disagree with Raimundo because I honestly wouldn’t want to have criminals around me knowing that they could commit a crime involving me. I also don’t think it is fair to you surrounding yourself with criminals, this will give you bad habits because they are bad influences. The reason we have laws is so that nothing bad happens.

    • berkeley_b_1

      I think that this idea to make immigration easier is going to help our country a lot. Making it easier to be apart of this country will allow for less undocumented workers. If it’s very difficult, which it is, to become legal, the undocumented workers won’t want to wait that long, and will just continue to stay illegal. I think that it is a phenomenal idea that both political parties are coming together, and making one compromised decision. Since immigration reformation is a big deal in the United States, it has been changing the country. The country is gaining more and more population and worse and worse economy causing the country to go down hill and offering fewer opportunities to the legal U.S. citizens and making everything worse. This bill applies to this by helping keep the legal immigrants inside the borderlines and keeping the illegal immigrants out, helping our nation go back to what it started out as.

      • berkeley_b_1

        Dear Raimundo,
        You say that everyone should accept criminals. What do you mean? Yes I do understand that we should be forgiving and except people from their mistakes but also it is not fair to the rest of the world. This country doesn’t just “work out” with out the hard work from the people and those who are trying to make our country a better place. Accepting those criminals will just make everything that “works out” that much harder. If by accepting you mean accept them as a person that is completely understandable, but when having undocumented works you don’t know their history from the other country. I am just giving a response to show you that it is not always fair to the rest of the citizens in this country.

  • Mary Lou_G_2

    I feel that this new bill will not work quite how they want it too. My question is how do they know which illegal immigrants at what time, it’s easy for them to lie and say they were here before Dec 31, 2011. Also I feel it is way too long to wait for 10 years to be legal and then an additional 3 for those who want to be a citizen of this nation. I just don’t think this bill is efficient enough to meet the needs of the many people involved and effected by this. Even though we may need a stricter boarder defense, I don’t think that will solve this. We need an easier way to make both sides happy, whether we make it easier to get visas or cut the years it takes to get what they want.

  • Mary Lou_G_2

    I feel that this new bill will not work quite how they want it too. My question is how do they know which illegal immigrants at what time, it’s easy for them to lie and say they were here before Dec 31, 2011. Also I feel it is way too long to wait for 10 years to be legal and then an additional 3 for those who want to be a citizen of this nation. I just don’t think this bill is efficient enough to meet the needs of the many people involved and effected by this. Even though we may need a stricter boarder defense, I don’t think that will solve this. We need an easier way to make both sides happy, whether we make it easier to get visas or cut the years it takes to get what they want.

    • Nathan_S_2

      For Mary Lou_G_2

      Maybe if the Illegal immigrant showed their pay check? The date on that could confirm if the had been here since then, its just a thought. What do you think would be a good way to find out?

  • Mary Lou_G_2

    I feel that this new bill will not work quite how they want it too. My question is how do they know which illegal immigrants at what time, it’s easy for them to lie and say they were here before Dec 31, 2011. Also I feel it is way too long to wait for 10 years to be legal and then an additional 3 for those who want to be a citizen of this nation. I just don’t think this bill is efficient enough to meet the needs of the many people involved and effected by this. Even though we may need a stricter boarder defense, I don’t think that will solve this. We need an easier way to make both sides happy, whether we make it easier to get visas or cut the years it takes to get what they want.

    • Nathan_S_2

      For Mary Lou_G_2

      Maybe if the Illegal immigrant showed their pay check? The date on that could confirm if the had been here since then, its just a thought. What do you think would be a good way to find out?

  • Mary Lou_G_2

    I agree with Danielle_G_2, this bill would be great if it weren’t for the long process and waiting time they have to do. If that was shortened it would give those who attempt to come over illegally to have a choice and to actually try getting a visa. If I was in their place I wouldn’t bother with trying to apply if I had to wait that long. Also what if by the time they get their visa after applying and waiting ten years something happens to the economy in the US or something changes drastically to the point they much rather not go and stay where ever they are? Then the point of applying would have been a waste.

  • Mary Lou_G_2

    I agree with Danielle_G_2, this bill would be great if it weren’t for the long process and waiting time they have to do. If that was shortened it would give those who attempt to come over illegally to have a choice and to actually try getting a visa. If I was in their place I wouldn’t bother with trying to apply if I had to wait that long. Also what if by the time they get their visa after applying and waiting ten years something happens to the economy in the US or something changes drastically to the point they much rather not go and stay where ever they are? Then the point of applying would have been a waste.

  • Mary Lou_G_2

    I agree with Danielle_G_2, this bill would be great if it weren’t for the long process and waiting time they have to do. If that was shortened it would give those who attempt to come over illegally to have a choice and to actually try getting a visa. If I was in their place I wouldn’t bother with trying to apply if I had to wait that long. Also what if by the time they get their visa after applying and waiting ten years something happens to the economy in the US or something changes drastically to the point they much rather not go and stay where ever they are? Then the point of applying would have been a waste.

  • Mary Lou_G_2

    I also agree with Miriam_P_2 on her comment disagreeing with M.O. The US should allow those undocumented workers here to become citizens already, why force them to go through the trouble to getting a visa when they already probably struggled enough just trying to set foot in the US?

  • Mary Lou_G_2

    I also agree with Miriam_P_2 on her comment disagreeing with M.O. The US should allow those undocumented workers here to become citizens already, why force them to go through the trouble to getting a visa when they already probably struggled enough just trying to set foot in the US?

  • Mary Lou_G_2

    I also agree with Miriam_P_2 on her comment disagreeing with M.O. The US should allow those undocumented workers here to become citizens already, why force them to go through the trouble to getting a visa when they already probably struggled enough just trying to set foot in the US?

  • eric_d_4

    I think that making the immigration/border laws stricter is a good idea. The article said that there were already 1 million undocumented immigrants and i don’ think that this is right. We don’t need to have that many immigrants here because it can just lead to more problems with the economy and things like that. I think it’s fair to everyone that the border laws become stricter because i believe that it is necessary.

    • Alex_C_3

      Yes Eric, I do agree with you that the laws should be stricter, but who would take on another problem? Not just us, but them too. Just think about how those 1 million undocumented workers helped us. Don’t you know that America was actually created by immigration? Don’t you know that’s what made America what it is today? Even though those undocumented immigrants have small jobs like maids, lawn mowers, and such, they still help us in the long run. Don’t you remember the videos we saw in class and on Youtube? One of the immigrants told us that everything they have in Mexico is because of the money from the U.S. If I were an immigrant, I would come for the money and if they told me to leave I would leave. What would you feel like if you were on the other side of immigration?
      While they were launching this immigration project, I thought about the pros and cons. One thing they really need is background checks. Today when I was interviewing one of the police, he told me some laws on immigration. Another thing I learned was they can’t give their opinion on immigration, or other things, when they’re in uniform. While he was talking, he said he came past some immigrants before, and he told us he arrested them. He didn’t just arrest them if they were illegal, but he would check them to see if they made any crimes.
      Again, yes the laws for immigration could become stricter, but also think about how this could start a fight. I did say a fight because they need our help. Why not just give them our help now instead of later when it’s an even bigger mess?

  • eric_d_4

    I think that making the immigration/border laws stricter is a good idea. The article said that there were already 1 million undocumented immigrants and i don’ think that this is right. We don’t need to have that many immigrants here because it can just lead to more problems with the economy and things like that. I think it’s fair to everyone that the border laws become stricter because i believe that it is necessary.

    • Alex_C_3

      Yes Eric, I do agree with you that the laws should be stricter, but who would take on another problem? Not just us, but them too. Just think about how those 1 million undocumented workers helped us. Don’t you know that America was actually created by immigration? Don’t you know that’s what made America what it is today? Even though those undocumented immigrants have small jobs like maids, lawn mowers, and such, they still help us in the long run. Don’t you remember the videos we saw in class and on Youtube? One of the immigrants told us that everything they have in Mexico is because of the money from the U.S. If I were an immigrant, I would come for the money and if they told me to leave I would leave. What would you feel like if you were on the other side of immigration?
      While they were launching this immigration project, I thought about the pros and cons. One thing they really need is background checks. Today when I was interviewing one of the police, he told me some laws on immigration. Another thing I learned was they can’t give their opinion on immigration, or other things, when they’re in uniform. While he was talking, he said he came past some immigrants before, and he told us he arrested them. He didn’t just arrest them if they were illegal, but he would check them to see if they made any crimes.
      Again, yes the laws for immigration could become stricter, but also think about how this could start a fight. I did say a fight because they need our help. Why not just give them our help now instead of later when it’s an even bigger mess?

  • Peter_B_4

    I believe that there should be a U.S. program that lets illegals turn themselves in without getting in trouble. U.S. could run it for a 1 and 1/2 years so it does not encourage people to come here illegally . With this program we can make undocumented people documented, but with this program people who get caught illegally could get in even more trouble. We should also keep the border as strong if not make it stronger and also make citizenship easier to obtain. This way everyone wins.

  • Peter_B_4

    I believe that there should be a U.S. program that lets illegals turn themselves in without getting in trouble. U.S. could run it for a 1 and 1/2 years so it does not encourage people to come here illegally . With this program we can make undocumented people documented, but with this program people who get caught illegally could get in even more trouble. We should also keep the border as strong if not make it stronger and also make citizenship easier to obtain. This way everyone wins.

  • yash_a_4

    We really need to strict the boarders, so we can stop the flow of illegal immigrants. The immigrant reform bill their passing has my full support because of its easy way to get legal immigrants. “The American people have told us to do two things. One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration.” Because of this easy solution we are greatly affected in terms of finding more jobs and settling all of these disputes about illegal immigrants.

  • yash_a_4

    We really need to strict the boarders, so we can stop the flow of illegal immigrants. The immigrant reform bill their passing has my full support because of its easy way to get legal immigrants. “The American people have told us to do two things. One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration.” Because of this easy solution we are greatly affected in terms of finding more jobs and settling all of these disputes about illegal immigrants.

  • SSooklal

    This bill seems to be very balanced because it is allowing for the people who are here illegally to seek a pathway to citizenship, which is an important step in fixing the immigration problem. I do agree with the idea that the illegal immigrants already in the country should be granted citizenship after a certain period of years because by that time they have lived in the country and worked just the same as we do. However, one of the previous concerns with allowing these illegal immigrants to obtain citizenship was that other foreigners would think that it was “easy” to become a citizen and would be more likely to attempt to cross the border. However, this bill addresses that issue by increasing security at the border while simultaneously allowing those 11 million immigrants already in the country to at least be able to obtain “registered immigrant provisional status.” Although the process of actually becoming a citizen would actually take 10 years, which is a considerable amount of time to live without benefits, especially for a possible family with children, those special issues are addressed in other sections of the bill. It does seem fair that those who crossed the border illegally must wait for a period of time before receiving all the benefits that citizens have because there are also people who are waiting to become citizens through the legal process, which could also take extremely long, so clearly legal immigrants should be able to obtain citizenship before the illegal immigrants. This bill seems to do a nice job of addressing both aspects of the immigration issue and appears to be fair as far as dealing with the immigrants already in the country.

  • SSooklal

    This bill seems to be very balanced because it is allowing for the people who are here illegally to seek a pathway to citizenship, which is an important step in fixing the immigration problem. I do agree with the idea that the illegal immigrants already in the country should be granted citizenship after a certain period of years because by that time they have lived in the country and worked just the same as we do. However, one of the previous concerns with allowing these illegal immigrants to obtain citizenship was that other foreigners would think that it was “easy” to become a citizen and would be more likely to attempt to cross the border. However, this bill addresses that issue by increasing security at the border while simultaneously allowing those 11 million immigrants already in the country to at least be able to obtain “registered immigrant provisional status.” Although the process of actually becoming a citizen would actually take 10 years, which is a considerable amount of time to live without benefits, especially for a possible family with children, those special issues are addressed in other sections of the bill. It does seem fair that those who crossed the border illegally must wait for a period of time before receiving all the benefits that citizens have because there are also people who are waiting to become citizens through the legal process, which could also take extremely long, so clearly legal immigrants should be able to obtain citizenship before the illegal immigrants. This bill seems to do a nice job of addressing both aspects of the immigration issue and appears to be fair as far as dealing with the immigrants already in the country.

  • Luke_H_1

    I, for the most part, agree with this bill. I appreciate that the bill is supporting stronger boarder defense. It is important that people cannot illegally enter our country. I also like how more visas are available to highly skilled workers and foreign entrepreneurs. These people want to work and help the nation. It is important that the U.S. brings in many different types of culture so that the nation continues to be so unique. Small and large businesses will thrive because of these foreign intellects. When it comes to the undocumented workers having to wait thirteen years in total to obtain U.S. citizenship, I agree and disagree. I would rather these dishonest, undocumented, illegal workers not be able to obtain a green card and citizenship. They came into the country looking to deceive the United States. They are dishonest people that should not be allowed to work in the U.S. Although, I still appreciate that the bill forces these undocumented workers to wait a very long time to become a citizen.
    Once these undocumented workers get a green card or obtain a U.S. citizenship, how will they help the nation? Undocumented workers have been known to only benefit their home country with their hard work. What does this mean for us? The population is going up, but the money is not present with the growing population. A major issue in the nation is education. How is this issue going to be resolved if there are no funds to aid it. The economy is crashing. Immigrants are using the United States to benefit themselves and their home countries.
    This bill is on the right track, but needs to be stricter with the undocumented workers.

    • Trevor_O_3

      I agree with Luke_H_1 because I am still wondering, once they receive U.S. citizenship how will they help our nation. Also when they send the money back to there families they are not spending it in the U.S. and that doesn’t allow that money to keep flowing through our local businesses.

      • Lauren_O_3

        I agree with Trevor and Luke. If they money does not re flow through our economy its making us fall farther down. What if thats one of the reasons we never saw of why our economy got so bad? Plus if we have more people here but the money isn’t staying here. Have we ever thought that maybe the economy and everything else can get worse?

    • John_L_1

      Adding onto what Luke said. I completely think that it is unfair that people can obtain a visa illegally. I think that they should apply for one, but apply for one with the right morals. Tighter boarder control will help this by filtering the people that actually want to wait, and get the visa legally.

    • Ishue_G_2

      Luke _H – I completely agree with you. America is a very diverse country and it always has been. It shouldn’t matter if you are legally here or if you are an undocumented worker. People come to America to have a better lifestyle and they are willing to work for it because they realize the value of hard work. But, some undocumented workers aren’t and that’s where “us” people become stereotypical and judgmental. To stop people from illegally entering our country we make our borders stronger and we spend a lot of money on that. Spending more doesn’t help get real security—that comes when we have a common-sense immigration system that that meets our economic needs and our values. I feel that we need to spend more time thinking why we have so many immigrants coming in instead of trying to get rid of them.

  • Luke_H_1

    I, for the most part, agree with this bill. I appreciate that the bill is supporting stronger boarder defense. It is important that people cannot illegally enter our country. I also like how more visas are available to highly skilled workers and foreign entrepreneurs. These people want to work and help the nation. It is important that the U.S. brings in many different types of culture so that the nation continues to be so unique. Small and large businesses will thrive because of these foreign intellects. When it comes to the undocumented workers having to wait thirteen years in total to obtain U.S. citizenship, I agree and disagree. I would rather these dishonest, undocumented, illegal workers not be able to obtain a green card and citizenship. They came into the country looking to deceive the United States. They are dishonest people that should not be allowed to work in the U.S. Although, I still appreciate that the bill forces these undocumented workers to wait a very long time to become a citizen.
    Once these undocumented workers get a green card or obtain a U.S. citizenship, how will they help the nation? Undocumented workers have been known to only benefit their home country with their hard work. What does this mean for us? The population is going up, but the money is not present with the growing population. A major issue in the nation is education. How is this issue going to be resolved if there are no funds to aid it. The economy is crashing. Immigrants are using the United States to benefit themselves and their home countries.
    This bill is on the right track, but needs to be stricter with the undocumented workers.

    • Trevor_O_3

      I agree with Luke_H_1 because I am still wondering, once they receive U.S. citizenship how will they help our nation. Also when they send the money back to there families they are not spending it in the U.S. and that doesn’t allow that money to keep flowing through our local businesses.

      • Lauren_O_3

        I agree with Trevor and Luke. If they money does not re flow through our economy its making us fall farther down. What if thats one of the reasons we never saw of why our economy got so bad? Plus if we have more people here but the money isn’t staying here. Have we ever thought that maybe the economy and everything else can get worse?

    • John_L_1

      Adding onto what Luke said. I completely think that it is unfair that people can obtain a visa illegally. I think that they should apply for one, but apply for one with the right morals. Tighter boarder control will help this by filtering the people that actually want to wait, and get the visa legally.

    • Ishue_G_2

      Luke _H – I completely agree with you. America is a very diverse country and it always has been. It shouldn’t matter if you are legally here or if you are an undocumented worker. People come to America to have a better lifestyle and they are willing to work for it because they realize the value of hard work. But, some undocumented workers aren’t and that’s where “us” people become stereotypical and judgmental. To stop people from illegally entering our country we make our borders stronger and we spend a lot of money on that. Spending more doesn’t help get real security—that comes when we have a common-sense immigration system that that meets our economic needs and our values. I feel that we need to spend more time thinking why we have so many immigrants coming in instead of trying to get rid of them.

  • Dileon Pearsall

    I personally think they shouldn’t do this because when you think about it how many jobs are there in America? Then compare this to the amount Americans and also the current employment rates. Then you’ll see that this is basically a slap in the face, if you will, to Americans, because the American, real AMERICANS, with no jobs that are really trying to get a job will see that this is more of a benefit to companies than a benefit to America or its current labor force.

  • Dileon Pearsall

    I personally think they shouldn’t do this because when you think about it how many jobs are there in America? Then compare this to the amount Americans and also the current employment rates. Then you’ll see that this is basically a slap in the face, if you will, to Americans, because the American, real AMERICANS, with no jobs that are really trying to get a job will see that this is more of a benefit to companies than a benefit to America or its current labor force.

  • Dileon Pearsall

    I personally think they shouldn’t do this because when you think about it how many jobs are there in America? Then compare this to the amount Americans and also the current employment rates. Then you’ll see that this is basically a slap in the face, if you will, to Americans, because the American, real AMERICANS, with no jobs that are really trying to get a job will see that this is more of a benefit to companies than a benefit to America or its current labor force.

  • karla

    As long as people meet the proper requirements and follow the laws. But border control should stay strict. Even though ten years is a long time, I agree with the bill. #KQEDdonow @rapcoh

    • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Madeline_G_2

      Karla, I agree that America is the land of the free and that we welcome immigrants here as long as they are willing to follow the rules. As long as they turn in proper documents, pay their fees/taxes and meet the waiting period then they should have the opportunity to become a citizen. Any immigrant with a police record should not be able to become a citizen of the US.

    • berkeley_b_1

      Dear Karla,
      I think that you have a valid point. People should be able to become a citizen if they follow the proper laws, and border patrol should stay strict. I only disagree with one thing. You agree with the bill, that it may take up to 10 years to become legal and gain citizenship. I do not think this is fair. If like you said, they have all of the proper requirements to get a visa; they should not have to wait 10 years for what they want. Doing that is like paying for a meal, and having it sit in front of you while you wait in hunger.

  • karla

    As long as people meet the proper requirements and follow the laws. But border control should stay strict. Even though ten years is a long time, I agree with the bill. #KQEDdonow @rapcoh

    • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Madeline_G_2

      Karla, I agree that America is the land of the free and that we welcome immigrants here as long as they are willing to follow the rules. As long as they turn in proper documents, pay their fees/taxes and meet the waiting period then they should have the opportunity to become a citizen. Any immigrant with a police record should not be able to become a citizen of the US.

    • berkeley_b_1

      Dear Karla,
      I think that you have a valid point. People should be able to become a citizen if they follow the proper laws, and border patrol should stay strict. I only disagree with one thing. You agree with the bill, that it may take up to 10 years to become legal and gain citizenship. I do not think this is fair. If like you said, they have all of the proper requirements to get a visa; they should not have to wait 10 years for what they want. Doing that is like paying for a meal, and having it sit in front of you while you wait in hunger.

  • karla

    As long as people meet the proper requirements and follow the laws. But border control should stay strict. Even though ten years is a long time, I agree with the bill. #KQEDdonow @rapcoh

    • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Madeline_G_2

      Karla, I agree that America is the land of the free and that we welcome immigrants here as long as they are willing to follow the rules. As long as they turn in proper documents, pay their fees/taxes and meet the waiting period then they should have the opportunity to become a citizen. Any immigrant with a police record should not be able to become a citizen of the US.

    • berkeley_b_1

      Dear Karla,
      I think that you have a valid point. People should be able to become a citizen if they follow the proper laws, and border patrol should stay strict. I only disagree with one thing. You agree with the bill, that it may take up to 10 years to become legal and gain citizenship. I do not think this is fair. If like you said, they have all of the proper requirements to get a visa; they should not have to wait 10 years for what they want. Doing that is like paying for a meal, and having it sit in front of you while you wait in hunger.

  • Jennifer_C_1

    When Sen. Chuck Schumer said, “This is a very balanced bill,” I disagree. Although it has parts to offer amnesty to the estimated 11 million undocumented people in the US, it will take about 13 years to make them legal citizens. That is a major downside to the bill; the amount to time it will take. So even though it will eventually help the illegal immigrants in America, I feel that it will take too long do have an immediate effect.

    • T Ashton

      I believe that the point of the bill is to have no “immediate effect”. Thats why there is a ten year waiting period. This is so that the immigrant can prove they will pay taxes and behave legally for TEN WHOLE years. Then all of the right wing republicans in America will be able to trust these people will help America instead of ruining it. I agree it is a long time but I think for now ten years might be the right amount of time for Americans to feel comfortable.

    • Andrea_V_1

      I completely agree with you Jennifer! I feel that the country is in dire need for reform, and the more time we wait, the more people will become angered. 13 years for someone to become a citizen is way too long. I can’t imagine the frustration of waiting for that amount of time! Overall, the bill is pretty good, but it will take a minimum of 13 years to take affect. Even then, we would not be able to see much change. The sooner we start, the sooner we will see a change.

  • Jennifer_C_1

    When Sen. Chuck Schumer said, “This is a very balanced bill,” I disagree. Although it has parts to offer amnesty to the estimated 11 million undocumented people in the US, it will take about 13 years to make them legal citizens. That is a major downside to the bill; the amount to time it will take. So even though it will eventually help the illegal immigrants in America, I feel that it will take too long do have an immediate effect.

    • T Ashton

      I believe that the point of the bill is to have no “immediate effect”. Thats why there is a ten year waiting period. This is so that the immigrant can prove they will pay taxes and behave legally for TEN WHOLE years. Then all of the right wing republicans in America will be able to trust these people will help America instead of ruining it. I agree it is a long time but I think for now ten years might be the right amount of time for Americans to feel comfortable.

    • Andrea_V_1

      I completely agree with you Jennifer! I feel that the country is in dire need for reform, and the more time we wait, the more people will become angered. 13 years for someone to become a citizen is way too long. I can’t imagine the frustration of waiting for that amount of time! Overall, the bill is pretty good, but it will take a minimum of 13 years to take affect. Even then, we would not be able to see much change. The sooner we start, the sooner we will see a change.

  • scott_c_1

    “Young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers, would receive a faster path to citizenship. They could apply for a green card within five years of being granted provisional status. Agricultural workers would also face a speedier and less costly path.” This can be a motivation for undocumented workers, because they can bring there families to the U.S and can have a successful life. They get there U.S citizen ship faster than anybody else, because there children.

    • Lauren_O_3

      Then more people are going to have children. Just so they can get into America. Its faster and easier that way. I believe that it should be changed. Everyone should have the same amount of time and rules to become an American citizen.

      • John_L_1

        Why would you want to motivate someone that is illegal? Not necessarily destroy their want to come here and start over, but if we keep getting illegal families here then were never going to settle this topic. If they are going to be here illegal then sometimes they dont want to be here on the right reasons. We need to narrow down our decisions, and stick with them instead of being lenient. Bills like these are getting us closer and closer to ending this unwanted topic.

  • scott_c_1

    “Young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers, would receive a faster path to citizenship. They could apply for a green card within five years of being granted provisional status. Agricultural workers would also face a speedier and less costly path.” This can be a motivation for undocumented workers, because they can bring there families to the U.S and can have a successful life. They get there U.S citizen ship faster than anybody else, because there children.

    • Lauren_O_3

      Then more people are going to have children. Just so they can get into America. Its faster and easier that way. I believe that it should be changed. Everyone should have the same amount of time and rules to become an American citizen.

      • John_L_1

        Why would you want to motivate someone that is illegal? Not necessarily destroy their want to come here and start over, but if we keep getting illegal families here then were never going to settle this topic. If they are going to be here illegal then sometimes they dont want to be here on the right reasons. We need to narrow down our decisions, and stick with them instead of being lenient. Bills like these are getting us closer and closer to ending this unwanted topic.

  • John_L_1

    Anyone should be welcomed into the United States. Our country was founded illegally, and should be shared with anyone who wants to come here on the right morals. Making it easier to get a visa will definitely help with the problem of ruining our economy as well. With a bigger majority of the illegal immigrant population paying their share to become a citizen of this country we will be better rounded. I love the bipartisanism, because it makes me feel that our government is maturing as a whole, and creating better decisions. People should be welcomed here, as long as they are here because they want to start new and make a better life. Some people come here with bad intentions, so as long as they are clean and ready to start fresh they should be here with good intentions.

    • Andrea_V_1

      I could not agree with you more Mason! Those who decide to come here with the right intentions, can only benefit the country, which is exactly what we need. The bipartisanism also caught my attention “The Gang of Eight, as the eight bipartisan US Senators have been termed, has managed to reach a compromise on immigration reform after months of negotiating.” (Intro, paragraph 1) Now that our government has grown and decided to work together, we can expect improvement for the future.

    • Rahi_P_2

      RE: John_L_1, I totally agree with you! We ourselves are immigrants. Technically unless you are 100% Native American from the people that lived here many years ago, you are an immigrant!

  • John_L_1

    Anyone should be welcomed into the United States. Our country was founded illegally, and should be shared with anyone who wants to come here on the right morals. Making it easier to get a visa will definitely help with the problem of ruining our economy as well. With a bigger majority of the illegal immigrant population paying their share to become a citizen of this country we will be better rounded. I love the bipartisanism, because it makes me feel that our government is maturing as a whole, and creating better decisions. People should be welcomed here, as long as they are here because they want to start new and make a better life. Some people come here with bad intentions, so as long as they are clean and ready to start fresh they should be here with good intentions.

    • Andrea_V_1

      I could not agree with you more Mason! Those who decide to come here with the right intentions, can only benefit the country, which is exactly what we need. The bipartisanism also caught my attention “The Gang of Eight, as the eight bipartisan US Senators have been termed, has managed to reach a compromise on immigration reform after months of negotiating.” (Intro, paragraph 1) Now that our government has grown and decided to work together, we can expect improvement for the future.

    • Rahi_P_2

      RE: John_L_1, I totally agree with you! We ourselves are immigrants. Technically unless you are 100% Native American from the people that lived here many years ago, you are an immigrant!

  • Zac_Shcneider_2

    Luke I strongly disagree that this bill is great. “The bill also makes changes to how foreigners can legally immigrate to the United States going forward. These changes are intended to make the process easier. However, only immigrants who came to the country before Dec. 31, 2011 can apply. To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. Those convicted of serious crimes are not eligible to apply.” This says here that if they even want to be able to apply to get the green it will cost five hundred dollars. Some people don’t have that amount off money if they come here because they might have spent their money on getting here and also would have to take care of their family with the money they saved up for this moment. Not only that but as I previously said it removes families from one another. It is alos too lengthy for the process takes 13 years and some people don’t have that time. Even though the person might be a convicted criminal what would there reasoning be for coming here? Maybe this person was forced to do this because of money issues and is coming here to get a better job.

  • Zac_Shcneider_2

    Luke I strongly disagree that this bill is great. “The bill also makes changes to how foreigners can legally immigrate to the United States going forward. These changes are intended to make the process easier. However, only immigrants who came to the country before Dec. 31, 2011 can apply. To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. Those convicted of serious crimes are not eligible to apply.” This says here that if they even want to be able to apply to get the green it will cost five hundred dollars. Some people don’t have that amount off money if they come here because they might have spent their money on getting here and also would have to take care of their family with the money they saved up for this moment. Not only that but as I previously said it removes families from one another. It is alos too lengthy for the process takes 13 years and some people don’t have that time. Even though the person might be a convicted criminal what would there reasoning be for coming here? Maybe this person was forced to do this because of money issues and is coming here to get a better job.

  • megan_r_2

    “Allowing many of the 11 million already here to stay and seek citizenship” (1st paragraph article above) will help our government. Even though some may think if the undocumented immigrants getting a citizenship will take away our jobs, it won’t because many of the undocumented immigrants are already working in the US. Therefore, they are already “taking away our jobs” and making them legal here will only benefit our government by having the undocumented immigrants pay taxes. I agree will the new law, but I wish there would be a faster way to have the 11 million get a citizenship.

    • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Madeline_G_2

      Megan,

      I agree with you that the US will benefit once the immigrants have to pay US taxes! Even if they aren’t legal yet, but are in the process of becoming legal and are paying their fees and immigration taxes, Americans should welcome them and help them to become contributing citizens.

    • Wesley_C#1

      I agree with Megan R, having the immigrants pay for taxes is a great idea because even though the process of citizenship is not completed this will help the immigrants a lot by feeling like they contributed to the state and I fell that people will be more welcoming the new citizens. Because once their citizens this will benefit the economy because if 11 million immigrants start to pay taxes this could make it easier for the country to support schools and cities with less money.

    • Megan_D_2

      Megan, I totally agree with you! If the immigrants start to pay the taxes that are required of all U.S. citizens, the economy will be affected positively. Like Madeline said, they will also feel as though they have contributed to the states and that will make them feel better about themselves.

  • megan_r_2

    “Allowing many of the 11 million already here to stay and seek citizenship” (1st paragraph article above) will help our government. Even though some may think if the undocumented immigrants getting a citizenship will take away our jobs, it won’t because many of the undocumented immigrants are already working in the US. Therefore, they are already “taking away our jobs” and making them legal here will only benefit our government by having the undocumented immigrants pay taxes. I agree will the new law, but I wish there would be a faster way to have the 11 million get a citizenship.

    • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Madeline_G_2

      Megan,

      I agree with you that the US will benefit once the immigrants have to pay US taxes! Even if they aren’t legal yet, but are in the process of becoming legal and are paying their fees and immigration taxes, Americans should welcome them and help them to become contributing citizens.

    • Wesley_C#1

      I agree with Megan R, having the immigrants pay for taxes is a great idea because even though the process of citizenship is not completed this will help the immigrants a lot by feeling like they contributed to the state and I fell that people will be more welcoming the new citizens. Because once their citizens this will benefit the economy because if 11 million immigrants start to pay taxes this could make it easier for the country to support schools and cities with less money.

    • Megan_D_2

      Megan, I totally agree with you! If the immigrants start to pay the taxes that are required of all U.S. citizens, the economy will be affected positively. Like Madeline said, they will also feel as though they have contributed to the states and that will make them feel better about themselves.

  • Kim_T_3

    I do not agree with the bill. This bill makes the process of applying for immigration harder, longer, and more expensive. I don’t think that people should wait for at least 10 years before they are eligible for citizenship. Plus the undocumented worker that are already in the US is basically getting rewarded. They are eligible to receive a faster path to citizenship. Overall, this bill is not terrible but there definitely needs to be some changes to it.
    “Young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers, would receive a faster path to citizenship. They could apply for a green card within five years of being granted provisional status.” paragraph 6

    • Jay_H_2

      While I think that it’s great something is finally being done about immigration reform, it feels as though it’s not all good. For you to have to work for 13 straight years just to achieve citizenship seems like a long time. It’s now a long and expensive process that I think many immigrants will have trouble with it.

    • Emily_R_3

      I disagree with Kim_T_3. I think that this bill is a good thing and will ensure that the people who actually want to become citizens will and that people who want to be citizens for the wrong reasons will not want to go through the long, hard, and expensive process. It will not completely stop illegal immigration, but it is a start.

  • Kim_T_3

    I do not agree with the bill. This bill makes the process of applying for immigration harder, longer, and more expensive. I don’t think that people should wait for at least 10 years before they are eligible for citizenship. Plus the undocumented worker that are already in the US is basically getting rewarded. They are eligible to receive a faster path to citizenship. Overall, this bill is not terrible but there definitely needs to be some changes to it.
    “Young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers, would receive a faster path to citizenship. They could apply for a green card within five years of being granted provisional status.” paragraph 6

    • Jay_H_2

      While I think that it’s great something is finally being done about immigration reform, it feels as though it’s not all good. For you to have to work for 13 straight years just to achieve citizenship seems like a long time. It’s now a long and expensive process that I think many immigrants will have trouble with it.

    • Emily_R_3

      I disagree with Kim_T_3. I think that this bill is a good thing and will ensure that the people who actually want to become citizens will and that people who want to be citizens for the wrong reasons will not want to go through the long, hard, and expensive process. It will not completely stop illegal immigration, but it is a start.

  • Allison_C_3

    “This immigration bill bases immigration rights on employment and education skills rather than on the principle of reuniting families.” I don’t think this is right. I think they should not only focus on the fact that these people need jobs, but they need there family too. They should not be away for so long and come back with enough money to last them for a little while. When in a few months or years, they are going to have to go back to America. Sure it’s nice that they think about the economy for them but think of things that are closer to them. I also wish it could be faster to get green cards so that they can come in to the U.S faster and more easily.

    • iymoni_M_4

      I agree, there should be an exception for families. As no wants to be separated from their spouse or parent, if they came after December 2011. Does anyone have comments to add about this?

  • Allison_C_3

    “This immigration bill bases immigration rights on employment and education skills rather than on the principle of reuniting families.” I don’t think this is right. I think they should not only focus on the fact that these people need jobs, but they need there family too. They should not be away for so long and come back with enough money to last them for a little while. When in a few months or years, they are going to have to go back to America. Sure it’s nice that they think about the economy for them but think of things that are closer to them. I also wish it could be faster to get green cards so that they can come in to the U.S faster and more easily.

  • Allison_C_3

    “This immigration bill bases immigration rights on employment and education skills rather than on the principle of reuniting families.” I don’t think this is right. I think they should not only focus on the fact that these people need jobs, but they need there family too. They should not be away for so long and come back with enough money to last them for a little while. When in a few months or years, they are going to have to go back to America. Sure it’s nice that they think about the economy for them but think of things that are closer to them. I also wish it could be faster to get green cards so that they can come in to the U.S faster and more easily.

    • iymoni_M_4

      I agree, there should be an exception for families. As no wants to be separated from their spouse or parent, if they came after December 2011. Does anyone have comments to add about this?

  • Lauren_O_3

    “These changes are intended to make the process easier.” We don’t need the process easier for them to become legal. If its easier it just means that they can easily become legal. If they easily become legal then everyones going to want to come to America. If its easier then almost everyones going to want to come. We want it to be harder because we don’t need all of these people in America taking our jobs so easily. Plus we won’t have enough places sooner or later have all of these people to live in America.

    • arthi_t_1

      Lauren O.– If we don’t make the process easier on the 11 million illegal immigrants already in the US, what alternatives do we have? It’s either this, which results in the decrease of taxes and increased tax revenue, stimulating the economy, OR putting an immense amount of manpower into seeking out all 11 million undocumented workers and deporting them. If this was to happen, it would be the largest deportation of all time. Putting this much money into deporting them would worsen the recession even more. So really, is legalizing the 11 to 12 million undocumented people in our country really THAT bad when considering the alternative? The bill addresses your comment about making all foreigners want to get here illegally. Increased border security would ensure that illegal immigration would be significantly impeded.

  • Lauren_O_3

    “These changes are intended to make the process easier.” We don’t need the process easier for them to become legal. If its easier it just means that they can easily become legal. If they easily become legal then everyones going to want to come to America. If its easier then almost everyones going to want to come. We want it to be harder because we don’t need all of these people in America taking our jobs so easily. Plus we won’t have enough places sooner or later have all of these people to live in America.

    • arthi_t_1

      Lauren O.– If we don’t make the process easier on the 11 million illegal immigrants already in the US, what alternatives do we have? It’s either this, which results in the decrease of taxes and increased tax revenue, stimulating the economy, OR putting an immense amount of manpower into seeking out all 11 million undocumented workers and deporting them. If this was to happen, it would be the largest deportation of all time. Putting this much money into deporting them would worsen the recession even more. So really, is legalizing the 11 to 12 million undocumented people in our country really THAT bad when considering the alternative? The bill addresses your comment about making all foreigners want to get here illegally. Increased border security would ensure that illegal immigration would be significantly impeded.

  • Lauren_O_3

    “These changes are intended to make the process easier.” We don’t need the process easier for them to become legal. If its easier it just means that they can easily become legal. If they easily become legal then everyones going to want to come to America. If its easier then almost everyones going to want to come. We want it to be harder because we don’t need all of these people in America taking our jobs so easily. Plus we won’t have enough places sooner or later have all of these people to live in America.

    • arthi_t_1

      Lauren O.– If we don’t make the process easier on the 11 million illegal immigrants already in the US, what alternatives do we have? It’s either this, which results in the decrease of taxes and increased tax revenue, stimulating the economy, OR putting an immense amount of manpower into seeking out all 11 million undocumented workers and deporting them. If this was to happen, it would be the largest deportation of all time. Putting this much money into deporting them would worsen the recession even more. So really, is legalizing the 11 to 12 million undocumented people in our country really THAT bad when considering the alternative? The bill addresses your comment about making all foreigners want to get here illegally. Increased border security would ensure that illegal immigration would be significantly impeded.

  • Emma F

    Immigration in the United States has been a hot button issue for a long time. This new immigration bill seems to be a step in the right direction because in the past there has been a whole lot of feet stomping, complaining, and agreement that there is a problem. However, legislators clearly did not feel the problem was detrimental enough to lead them to compromise. Apparently, the immigration problem is finally big enough because Democrats and Republicans are working together to try and resolve this issue.

    I think the bill itself holds many positive and potentially successful propositions. It offers a balance of conservative border control and limits on citizenship, as well as the plausible opportunity for immigrants to earn their citizenship over time. I understand the frustration with the idea that undocumented workers are allowed to remain in the US and obtain a faster path to the green card. However, it would be both extraordinarily expensive and time consuming to attempt to track down every undocumented worker and either require that they begin the long process of citizenship or force them out of the country. By giving these people the option of obtaining a green card in a shorter amount of time, they will be much more inclined to begin the process themselves. This in turn means that they will be able to keep their jobs, satisfying their desire to make money and filling labor positions that many Americans are reluctant to take. Additionally, as green card holders, these immigrants will be required to pay US taxes, which will in turn decrease the average American’s taxes.

  • Emma F

    Immigration in the United States has been a hot button issue for a long time. This new immigration bill seems to be a step in the right direction because in the past there has been a whole lot of feet stomping, complaining, and agreement that there is a problem. However, legislators clearly did not feel the problem was detrimental enough to lead them to compromise. Apparently, the immigration problem is finally big enough because Democrats and Republicans are working together to try and resolve this issue.

    I think the bill itself holds many positive and potentially successful propositions. It offers a balance of conservative border control and limits on citizenship, as well as the plausible opportunity for immigrants to earn their citizenship over time. I understand the frustration with the idea that undocumented workers are allowed to remain in the US and obtain a faster path to the green card. However, it would be both extraordinarily expensive and time consuming to attempt to track down every undocumented worker and either require that they begin the long process of citizenship or force them out of the country. By giving these people the option of obtaining a green card in a shorter amount of time, they will be much more inclined to begin the process themselves. This in turn means that they will be able to keep their jobs, satisfying their desire to make money and filling labor positions that many Americans are reluctant to take. Additionally, as green card holders, these immigrants will be required to pay US taxes, which will in turn decrease the average American’s taxes.

  • Kelvin_H_3

    I disagree with this bill, I think this was not really planned out for benefiting for both parties of the legal and illegal. This bill has so many errors to be fixed or not even be allowed to be passed. As the people want to come to the US, which is a good thing but doing it illegally well thats another thing, the increase of immigration dramatically rose throughout the years as the immigrants who are taking the legal path that takes so much time to just even get a green card are working hard to become a US citizen. Why was the US senators thinking that this bill would solve the problem? Yet if this was passed on then I bet the problem would grow even worse then expected?

    • Rohan_P_1

      I think that this bill can help and really its only problem is having to wait 13 years for citizenship other than the bill seems pretty much in place. I believe that this would encourage undocumented workers to try for citizenship

  • Kelvin_H_3

    I disagree with this bill, I think this was not really planned out for benefiting for both parties of the legal and illegal. This bill has so many errors to be fixed or not even be allowed to be passed. As the people want to come to the US, which is a good thing but doing it illegally well thats another thing, the increase of immigration dramatically rose throughout the years as the immigrants who are taking the legal path that takes so much time to just even get a green card are working hard to become a US citizen. Why was the US senators thinking that this bill would solve the problem? Yet if this was passed on then I bet the problem would grow even worse then expected?

  • Kelvin_H_3

    I disagree with this bill, I think this was not really planned out for benefiting for both parties of the legal and illegal. This bill has so many errors to be fixed or not even be allowed to be passed. As the people want to come to the US, which is a good thing but doing it illegally well thats another thing, the increase of immigration dramatically rose throughout the years as the immigrants who are taking the legal path that takes so much time to just even get a green card are working hard to become a US citizen. Why was the US senators thinking that this bill would solve the problem? Yet if this was passed on then I bet the problem would grow even worse then expected?

    • Rohan_P_1

      I think that this bill can help and really its only problem is having to wait 13 years for citizenship other than the bill seems pretty much in place. I believe that this would encourage undocumented workers to try for citizenship

  • arthi_t_1

    In recent years, the concept of bipartisanship has been increasingly rare to find, so on that count, I applaud these eight Senators for putting political beliefs aside to further the nation. However, there are a few problems with the bill– it doesn’t address giving illegal immigrants temporary visas, and waiting ten years for a green card and thirteen for citizenship is way too long. Also, most undocumented workers are here to earn money and then go back to Mexico. The bill addresses illegal families who want to move here permanently, though, which is only a small percentage of the 11 million illegal immigrants currently on US soil. If the proposed bill were to include giving work visas to the undocumented workers who have come here looking for money, not only would the government have increased tax revenue, but it would also stimulate the economy, thus helping our current economic crisis.

    Even if this bill was to be passed, the government still has a lot of work to do: which programs do we cut to increase border security? How are we funding the proposed border security? How does Homeland Security go about implementing the “measures to prevent ‘unauthorized workers from obtaining employment in the United States?’” The current laws in place do nothing to prevent illegal immigrants from finding work in America, so how do they plan on fixing that? Furthermore, the bill proposed that DREAMers will be granted “provisional status”, which means they’re not eligible for food stamps, Medicaid, low-income assistance in the prescription drug program, and more. Assuming that the great majority of illegal immigrants fall under the low-income tier, how will they be able to support themselves and their families? Eventually, America will become overpopulated with excessive numbers of immigrants. What will be done to keep this from happening? On another note, the US and Mexico will have to work together to employ a successful way to make visas more accesible to the people of Mexico, as well. The government in Mexico seems to be in shambles, overrun with corruption. If so, will the Mexican government be amicable to discuss this with the US? And will the two countries be able to work together? There are still many questions to be addressed on the topic; this bill is only the beginning of the very long process of proper immigration reform.

    • Jenna_T_2

      Arthi_T_1,
      I completely agree with you when you talked about the DREAMers being granted “provisional status” and by doing that they will not be granted food stamp, Medicaid, etc. You asked how would they support their family? They won’t be able to. You never know what is going to happen and one day they need those things. If the government is preventing them from getting those things that they need but you rather be safe than to be sorry. These DREAMers are going to be “sorry” because the government never gave them the chance to have those things are be able the thrive in this country. They want to be able to come here and contribute to society so why doesn’t the government help them do that by giving them those things such as eligibility for food stamps, Medicaid, etc? Then at the same time the bill will let the DREAMers have a faster path to citizenship. They can also receive a green card, but that grants them the provisional status. It’s as if the government is trying to show them that they will be able to receive citizenship or a green card faster then in the end there is some twist that limits them in their new home.

    • Janelle Bence

      What worthy questions you pose? I wonder who could throw some ideas out? Thank you for a thoughtful, inquisitive post.

  • arthi_t_1

    In recent years, the concept of bipartisanship has been increasingly rare to find, so on that count, I applaud these eight Senators for putting political beliefs aside to further the nation. However, there are a few problems with the bill– it doesn’t address giving illegal immigrants temporary visas, and waiting ten years for a green card and thirteen for citizenship is way too long. Also, most undocumented workers are here to earn money and then go back to Mexico. The bill addresses illegal families who want to move here permanently, though, which is only a small percentage of the 11 million illegal immigrants currently on US soil. If the proposed bill were to include giving work visas to the undocumented workers who have come here looking for money, not only would the government have increased tax revenue, but it would also stimulate the economy, thus helping our current economic crisis.

    Even if this bill was to be passed, the government still has a lot of work to do: which programs do we cut to increase border security? How are we funding the proposed border security? How does Homeland Security go about implementing the “measures to prevent ‘unauthorized workers from obtaining employment in the United States?’” The current laws in place do nothing to prevent illegal immigrants from finding work in America, so how do they plan on fixing that? Furthermore, the bill proposed that DREAMers will be granted “provisional status”, which means they’re not eligible for food stamps, Medicaid, low-income assistance in the prescription drug program, and more. Assuming that the great majority of illegal immigrants fall under the low-income tier, how will they be able to support themselves and their families? Eventually, America will become overpopulated with excessive numbers of immigrants. What will be done to keep this from happening? On another note, the US and Mexico will have to work together to employ a successful way to make visas more accesible to the people of Mexico, as well. The government in Mexico seems to be in shambles, overrun with corruption. If so, will the Mexican government be amicable to discuss this with the US? And will the two countries be able to work together? There are still many questions to be addressed on the topic; this bill is only the beginning of the very long process of proper immigration reform.

    • Jenna_T_2

      Arthi_T_1,
      I completely agree with you when you talked about the DREAMers being granted “provisional status” and by doing that they will not be granted food stamp, Medicaid, etc. You asked how would they support their family? They won’t be able to. You never know what is going to happen and one day they need those things. If the government is preventing them from getting those things that they need but you rather be safe than to be sorry. These DREAMers are going to be “sorry” because the government never gave them the chance to have those things are be able the thrive in this country. They want to be able to come here and contribute to society so why doesn’t the government help them do that by giving them those things such as eligibility for food stamps, Medicaid, etc? Then at the same time the bill will let the DREAMers have a faster path to citizenship. They can also receive a green card, but that grants them the provisional status. It’s as if the government is trying to show them that they will be able to receive citizenship or a green card faster then in the end there is some twist that limits them in their new home.

    • Janelle Bence

      What worthy questions you pose? I wonder who could throw some ideas out? Thank you for a thoughtful, inquisitive post.

  • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Madeline_G_2

    Immigration Reform has been a hot topic for a while. Illegal immigrants coming to the US to work without proper paperwork are basically stealing from America. I understand that they are inexpensive labor and they are trying to make money to send to their families, but they are taking opportunities to work away from American citizens. I agree with the reform that there should be a long checklist of procedures that immigrants must follow and fees/taxes they must pay as well as pass a background check before they can become a legal citizen. As long as the immigrants follow the rules that the US government has put in place, they pay the fees/taxes and meet the waiting period, America will welcome new citizens. Illegal immigrants that choose not to follow US rules should just be deported and put on a list of those not welcome in the US.

  • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Madeline_G_2

    Immigration Reform has been a hot topic for a while. Illegal immigrants coming to the US to work without proper paperwork are basically stealing from America. I understand that they are inexpensive labor and they are trying to make money to send to their families, but they are taking opportunities to work away from American citizens. I agree with the reform that there should be a long checklist of procedures that immigrants must follow and fees/taxes they must pay as well as pass a background check before they can become a legal citizen. As long as the immigrants follow the rules that the US government has put in place, they pay the fees/taxes and meet the waiting period, America will welcome new citizens. Illegal immigrants that choose not to follow US rules should just be deported and put on a list of those not welcome in the US.

  • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Madeline_G_2

    Immigration Reform has been a hot topic for a while. Illegal immigrants coming to the US to work without proper paperwork are basically stealing from America. I understand that they are inexpensive labor and they are trying to make money to send to their families, but they are taking opportunities to work away from American citizens. I agree with the reform that there should be a long checklist of procedures that immigrants must follow and fees/taxes they must pay as well as pass a background check before they can become a legal citizen. As long as the immigrants follow the rules that the US government has put in place, they pay the fees/taxes and meet the waiting period, America will welcome new citizens. Illegal immigrants that choose not to follow US rules should just be deported and put on a list of those not welcome in the US.

  • daniela_m_2

    I believe that undocumented immigrants should be given a chance in the U.S. The act to crossing the border without a visa is illegal, but some of them just want food and shelter for their families. I’m not saying that some undocumented immigrants are not trafficking drugs, but the ones that just want freedom and a future for their kids should be allowed to get their green card, and even become a citizen. They do hard work for little pay, and many do jobs that Americans will never do. I also believe that it’s not fair how Americans, and legal immigrants are paying taxes, and undocumented workers aren’t. I think that America becomes stronger when immigrants come legally, but it also becomes weaker when undocumented immigrants live here while Americans are paying for their medicare because that’s exactly what we are doing by paying taxes.

  • daniela_m_2

    I believe that undocumented immigrants should be given a chance in the U.S. The act to crossing the border without a visa is illegal, but some of them just want food and shelter for their families. I’m not saying that some undocumented immigrants are not trafficking drugs, but the ones that just want freedom and a future for their kids should be allowed to get their green card, and even become a citizen. They do hard work for little pay, and many do jobs that Americans will never do. I also believe that it’s not fair how Americans, and legal immigrants are paying taxes, and undocumented workers aren’t. I think that America becomes stronger when immigrants come legally, but it also becomes weaker when undocumented immigrants live here while Americans are paying for their medicare because that’s exactly what we are doing by paying taxes.

  • Cayla_C_1

    I think that the bill contains of a descent amount of authority. This bill will help distribute the legal immigrants who want to be here form the illegal immigrants who are only here for a short period of time. It will help clear out the United States and all of the unnecessary people that are not supposed to be here from the people who have the right to be here by law. Immigration reform changes the United Sates by making it more diverse and populated, but is also taking jobs from people who have the right to be here when those immigrants might not even be here legally, so this bill is right when it comes down to checking background and making a difference in the opportunities for everyone. This bill will help protect the ones who want to become apart of this country and be legal against the ones who just want to take and leave from us. This will make jobs harder to find, but if that means risking jobs for a safer border patrol and more authority in the United Sates, then that is a risk we, as a nation, should take. On the other hand, no one is going to want to wait 10 years to become legal, so it will just create more and more illegal immigrants over on our side because there really isn’t a point of staying 10 years when all they want to do is get money for a couple years when they want to go back home to their families as well.

  • Cayla_C_1

    I think that the bill contains of a descent amount of authority. This bill will help distribute the legal immigrants who want to be here form the illegal immigrants who are only here for a short period of time. It will help clear out the United States and all of the unnecessary people that are not supposed to be here from the people who have the right to be here by law. Immigration reform changes the United Sates by making it more diverse and populated, but is also taking jobs from people who have the right to be here when those immigrants might not even be here legally, so this bill is right when it comes down to checking background and making a difference in the opportunities for everyone. This bill will help protect the ones who want to become apart of this country and be legal against the ones who just want to take and leave from us. This will make jobs harder to find, but if that means risking jobs for a safer border patrol and more authority in the United Sates, then that is a risk we, as a nation, should take. On the other hand, no one is going to want to wait 10 years to become legal, so it will just create more and more illegal immigrants over on our side because there really isn’t a point of staying 10 years when all they want to do is get money for a couple years when they want to go back home to their families as well.

  • Cayla_C_1

    I think that the bill contains of a descent amount of authority. This bill will help distribute the legal immigrants who want to be here form the illegal immigrants who are only here for a short period of time. It will help clear out the United States and all of the unnecessary people that are not supposed to be here from the people who have the right to be here by law. Immigration reform changes the United Sates by making it more diverse and populated, but is also taking jobs from people who have the right to be here when those immigrants might not even be here legally, so this bill is right when it comes down to checking background and making a difference in the opportunities for everyone. This bill will help protect the ones who want to become apart of this country and be legal against the ones who just want to take and leave from us. This will make jobs harder to find, but if that means risking jobs for a safer border patrol and more authority in the United Sates, then that is a risk we, as a nation, should take. On the other hand, no one is going to want to wait 10 years to become legal, so it will just create more and more illegal immigrants over on our side because there really isn’t a point of staying 10 years when all they want to do is get money for a couple years when they want to go back home to their families as well.

  • daniela_m_2

    “Young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers, would receive a faster path to citizenship. They could apply for a green card within five years of being granted provisional status. Agricultural workers would also face a speedier and less costly path.”
    I believe that this is fair. Kids are not responsible for their parents decisions, and I think that they should get a chance to become whatever they dream of. Undocumented immigrants brought to the US as children have their whole lives ahead of them, and are not criminal.

  • daniela_m_2

    “Young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers, would receive a faster path to citizenship. They could apply for a green card within five years of being granted provisional status. Agricultural workers would also face a speedier and less costly path.”
    I believe that this is fair. Kids are not responsible for their parents decisions, and I think that they should get a chance to become whatever they dream of. Undocumented immigrants brought to the US as children have their whole lives ahead of them, and are not criminal.

  • daniela_m_2

    “Young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers, would receive a faster path to citizenship. They could apply for a green card within five years of being granted provisional status. Agricultural workers would also face a speedier and less costly path.”
    I believe that this is fair. Kids are not responsible for their parents decisions, and I think that they should get a chance to become whatever they dream of. Undocumented immigrants brought to the US as children have their whole lives ahead of them, and are not criminal.

  • Rahi_P_2

    Ok, so two things…
    #1) In the article, 3rd paragraph of the Introduction, 2nd & 3rd lines it says, “However, only immigrants who came to the country before Dec. 31, 2011 can apply,” so my question is… For the people that have come to this country AFTER Dec. 31, 2011, are they not eligible to apply for a citizenship? And how does the government know if they person os teling the truth about coming here before Dec. 31, 2011?
    #2) I think that this bill is not the best way to fix the immigration “problem” if you will. There might be a better way to make people stop coming here illegally. Also because it says, “To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years”. This could turn into a problem in my mind because it will take at least 13 years to get a full citizenship, and that is ONLY if they approve of your getting a green card first! To me, there are many ways to deal with immigration, and this just isn’t the BEST way!

    • Emily_R_3

      I agree with Rahi_P_2 when she mentions the bill is not the best way to fix the problem. The bill will stop people from becoming citizens, but it will not stop people from coming to the U.S. illegally. We need immigration reform that will stop the immigrants from coming here, not to stop them from becoming citizens.

    • Tyler_W_1

      I agree with Rahi_P_2 on how the dates of when you can apply for the application isn’t going to work that well. I dont see how there will be anyway to tell when and when not someone came into the country. I think we need to make an easier, and quicker way to make immigrants a citizen in the USA.

    • kyle_m_1

      I agree with Rahi that 13 years is too long of a time to wait. If we want to encourage immigrants to come here legally and pay taxes benefitting the U.S. we shouldn’t make them wait over a decade in order to do it. I think that we have to make it easier to get a visa and become a citizen. If we do that, then people won’t want to come here illegally, they can just come here legally and pay taxes and benefit the country as well as themselves. If we make it easier to get a visa and make it not take 13 years to become a citizen immigrants would be happy to apply for a visa and come here legally.

  • Rahi_P_2

    Ok, so two things…
    #1) In the article, 3rd paragraph of the Introduction, 2nd & 3rd lines it says, “However, only immigrants who came to the country before Dec. 31, 2011 can apply,” so my question is… For the people that have come to this country AFTER Dec. 31, 2011, are they not eligible to apply for a citizenship? And how does the government know if they person os teling the truth about coming here before Dec. 31, 2011?
    #2) I think that this bill is not the best way to fix the immigration “problem” if you will. There might be a better way to make people stop coming here illegally. Also because it says, “To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years”. This could turn into a problem in my mind because it will take at least 13 years to get a full citizenship, and that is ONLY if they approve of your getting a green card first! To me, there are many ways to deal with immigration, and this just isn’t the BEST way!

    • Emily_R_3

      I agree with Rahi_P_2 when she mentions the bill is not the best way to fix the problem. The bill will stop people from becoming citizens, but it will not stop people from coming to the U.S. illegally. We need immigration reform that will stop the immigrants from coming here, not to stop them from becoming citizens.

    • Tyler_W_1

      I agree with Rahi_P_2 on how the dates of when you can apply for the application isn’t going to work that well. I dont see how there will be anyway to tell when and when not someone came into the country. I think we need to make an easier, and quicker way to make immigrants a citizen in the USA.

    • kyle_m_1

      I agree with Rahi that 13 years is too long of a time to wait. If we want to encourage immigrants to come here legally and pay taxes benefitting the U.S. we shouldn’t make them wait over a decade in order to do it. I think that we have to make it easier to get a visa and become a citizen. If we do that, then people won’t want to come here illegally, they can just come here legally and pay taxes and benefit the country as well as themselves. If we make it easier to get a visa and make it not take 13 years to become a citizen immigrants would be happy to apply for a visa and come here legally.

  • Andrea_V_1

    First of all, I would like to congratulate the bipartisanism. The fact both political parties were able to come together to create this bill, proves that our government has matured. Now moving on to the bill, granting citizenship to the 11 million undocumented immigrants would boost our economy by having them pay taxes. Some do not like the idea of having these people become citizens, but they do not understand how much money it would cost the country to track down all of these undocumented immigrants. Money that the nation does not have. “…it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years.” (Intro, paragraph 3) The idea of having people wait 13 years to become citizens, is absolutely ridiculous! I believe that once someone has proven that they are fully committed to become an American citizen, they should be given the opportunity to do so as soon as they prove it.

    • http://www.immigrationdirect.com/immigrationresources/U-S-citizenship-naturalization-process.jsp Diana_G_2

      I agree with Andrea_V_1, I’m pretty surprised the two parties came together to agree on this bill. It’s great that they are willing to help the undocumented workers. I also agree with you about the process of legalization being too long. The process for people who came to the U.S. legally, only takes around 180 days. Why can’t the process of undocumented workers becoming legal take about 180 days?

    • Danielle_G_2

      Andrea_V_1
      I agree with your statement on the how the government is maturing and I congratulate them on being able to work together and create this bill. Cooperation is very important when dealing with political issues, especially when faced with a topic such as immigration. When two parties put aside their differences in order to benefit the general public, you know that progress is being made.

  • Andrea_V_1

    First of all, I would like to congratulate the bipartisanism. The fact both political parties were able to come together to create this bill, proves that our government has matured. Now moving on to the bill, granting citizenship to the 11 million undocumented immigrants would boost our economy by having them pay taxes. Some do not like the idea of having these people become citizens, but they do not understand how much money it would cost the country to track down all of these undocumented immigrants. Money that the nation does not have. “…it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years.” (Intro, paragraph 3) The idea of having people wait 13 years to become citizens, is absolutely ridiculous! I believe that once someone has proven that they are fully committed to become an American citizen, they should be given the opportunity to do so as soon as they prove it.

    • http://www.immigrationdirect.com/immigrationresources/U-S-citizenship-naturalization-process.jsp Diana_G_2

      I agree with Andrea_V_1, I’m pretty surprised the two parties came together to agree on this bill. It’s great that they are willing to help the undocumented workers. I also agree with you about the process of legalization being too long. The process for people who came to the U.S. legally, only takes around 180 days. Why can’t the process of undocumented workers becoming legal take about 180 days?

    • Danielle_G_2

      Andrea_V_1
      I agree with your statement on the how the government is maturing and I congratulate them on being able to work together and create this bill. Cooperation is very important when dealing with political issues, especially when faced with a topic such as immigration. When two parties put aside their differences in order to benefit the general public, you know that progress is being made.

  • Ishue

    I personally disagree with this bill. One of the reasons I disagree is that “the path” is too long. Referring back to the article it said ” To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years.To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years.”
    Undocumented immigrants will have to wait thirteen years to get their citizenship, which is a long time to wait. The sooner people know they are here to stay, the sooner they can FULLY contribute their talents to America.

    • Rohan_P_1

      I agree with that, it is way too long and unrealistic. I think that if you are going to give someone a citizenship then just give it to them. A total of 13 years is just not practical as it says in the introduction.

    • Jay_H_2

      Exactly right, Ishue. If politicians plan on these immigrants ever contributing to America, than they have to make the path to citizenship a lot shorter. I can see some one who is extremely motivated and determined to become American work hard for the 13 years, but I think some will just give up and continue living anonymously as illegals. This bill isn’t doing a very good job of changing immigration laws for the better.

  • Ishue

    I personally disagree with this bill. One of the reasons I disagree is that “the path” is too long. Referring back to the article it said ” To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years.To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years.”
    Undocumented immigrants will have to wait thirteen years to get their citizenship, which is a long time to wait. The sooner people know they are here to stay, the sooner they can FULLY contribute their talents to America.

    • Rohan_P_1

      I agree with that, it is way too long and unrealistic. I think that if you are going to give someone a citizenship then just give it to them. A total of 13 years is just not practical as it says in the introduction.

    • Jay_H_2

      Exactly right, Ishue. If politicians plan on these immigrants ever contributing to America, than they have to make the path to citizenship a lot shorter. I can see some one who is extremely motivated and determined to become American work hard for the 13 years, but I think some will just give up and continue living anonymously as illegals. This bill isn’t doing a very good job of changing immigration laws for the better.

  • Ashley Tran

    It seems that the process for actually obtaining citizenship in the United States is far more complicated and time consuming than actually remaining an illegal immigrant. 10 years of waiting for not even full citizenship, but a green card alone is absurd.

  • Ashley Tran

    It seems that the process for actually obtaining citizenship in the United States is far more complicated and time consuming than actually remaining an illegal immigrant. 10 years of waiting for not even full citizenship, but a green card alone is absurd.

  • Ashley Tran

    It seems that the process for actually obtaining citizenship in the United States is far more complicated and time consuming than actually remaining an illegal immigrant. 10 years of waiting for not even full citizenship, but a green card alone is absurd.

  • Miranda

    I agree with Immigration although the only problem I have with it is when Immigrants come over to America they want to get jobs to support themselves here. They get jobs that pay less but they are making it difficult for students just getting out of highschool to get jobs. I am a highschooler and finding a job without having much experience is difficult. But having no jobs for us to try and apply for is worse. Unemployment upsets me. Many people are without jobs and they struggle everyday to get by. Fix unemployment first, create more jobs for people and then immigrants can have jobs as well as there being low employment.

    • Paige_W_1

      You mention that you agree with immigration but have a problem with the jobs and how they get jobs that pay less, but its not the amount of jobs that’s the problem. The reason that they can get these jobs is because they don’t need as much money. Currently there are a lot of jobs in America that aren’t being filled so adding jobs won’t necessarily help the problem. Other than that I understand where you are coming from.

  • Miranda

    I agree with Immigration although the only problem I have with it is when Immigrants come over to America they want to get jobs to support themselves here. They get jobs that pay less but they are making it difficult for students just getting out of highschool to get jobs. I am a highschooler and finding a job without having much experience is difficult. But having no jobs for us to try and apply for is worse. Unemployment upsets me. Many people are without jobs and they struggle everyday to get by. Fix unemployment first, create more jobs for people and then immigrants can have jobs as well as there being low employment.

    • Paige_W_1

      You mention that you agree with immigration but have a problem with the jobs and how they get jobs that pay less, but its not the amount of jobs that’s the problem. The reason that they can get these jobs is because they don’t need as much money. Currently there are a lot of jobs in America that aren’t being filled so adding jobs won’t necessarily help the problem. Other than that I understand where you are coming from.

  • Adam Musilli

    I don’t care that much about this whole issue, But i don’t think that we should support people breaking the law and illegally entering the United States. Just because they entered before December 31, 2011, doesn’t make that okay. I do understand why immigrants would want to come here, but they should do it the right way.

    • Logan_S_1

      I agree with Adam Musilli because I don’t think that they should be rewarded for coming here illegally and breaking the law. Just because they came into the country before December 31, 2011 doesn’t make it okay, or right. I agree that they need to come here the right way, as legal immigrants.

      • Elisabeth_S_3

        I agree with you on this issue. Allowing illegal immigrants to become legal just because they arrived here before a certain date isn’t fair to anyone. I feel as if the process takes so long that many people believe it would be better if they crossed whenever they wanted and risked imprisonment, instead of waiting like they’re supposed to. 13 years to wait for a citizenship is an unreasonable amount of time for workers who are trying to earn a living here legally. I believe that taking some time off of the legalization process would eliminate at least some of the undocumented immigrants, and give them the opportunity and stamina throughout the process to become legal.

  • Adam Musilli

    I don’t care that much about this whole issue, But i don’t think that we should support people breaking the law and illegally entering the United States. Just because they entered before December 31, 2011, doesn’t make that okay. I do understand why immigrants would want to come here, but they should do it the right way.

    • Logan_S_1

      I agree with Adam Musilli because I don’t think that they should be rewarded for coming here illegally and breaking the law. Just because they came into the country before December 31, 2011 doesn’t make it okay, or right. I agree that they need to come here the right way, as legal immigrants.

      • Elisabeth_S_3

        I agree with you on this issue. Allowing illegal immigrants to become legal just because they arrived here before a certain date isn’t fair to anyone. I feel as if the process takes so long that many people believe it would be better if they crossed whenever they wanted and risked imprisonment, instead of waiting like they’re supposed to. 13 years to wait for a citizenship is an unreasonable amount of time for workers who are trying to earn a living here legally. I believe that taking some time off of the legalization process would eliminate at least some of the undocumented immigrants, and give them the opportunity and stamina throughout the process to become legal.

  • Michael Crissy

    I actually agree with this rule, and heres why. I agree with this because it allows many of these immigrants to become an citizen of these United States. We can have these people come into the US just as long as they have no previous record in there old country, because who wants to have a criminal come into your country.

    • Christina_M_2

      I was also fond of the fact that the reform bill was only for record-free immigrants. I only want safe people in our country so we can have a better life.

  • Michael Crissy

    I actually agree with this rule, and heres why. I agree with this because it allows many of these immigrants to become an citizen of these United States. We can have these people come into the US just as long as they have no previous record in there old country, because who wants to have a criminal come into your country.

  • Michael Crissy

    I actually agree with this rule, and heres why. I agree with this because it allows many of these immigrants to become an citizen of these United States. We can have these people come into the US just as long as they have no previous record in there old country, because who wants to have a criminal come into your country.

    • Christina_M_2

      I was also fond of the fact that the reform bill was only for record-free immigrants. I only want safe people in our country so we can have a better life.

  • Andrew Avino

    This bill i would say is fair but I think that they could have made it a little more fair than what it actually is. An example of it not being fair is that it would take ten years for immigrants to obtain their green cards. Than it would take another three years to obtain full citizenship. So thirteen years to obtain full citizenship is quite long. Also they will have to pay five hundred dollars plus taxes and processing fees the amount will be a little ridiculous too. However it is more fair for the children coming into the states because it is a faster path to citizenship than the adult immigrants. They would be able to obtain their green cards in five years instead of ten years. I also like how the immigration bill is passed on employment and education skills compared to families trying to reunite.

  • Andrew Avino

    This bill i would say is fair but I think that they could have made it a little more fair than what it actually is. An example of it not being fair is that it would take ten years for immigrants to obtain their green cards. Than it would take another three years to obtain full citizenship. So thirteen years to obtain full citizenship is quite long. Also they will have to pay five hundred dollars plus taxes and processing fees the amount will be a little ridiculous too. However it is more fair for the children coming into the states because it is a faster path to citizenship than the adult immigrants. They would be able to obtain their green cards in five years instead of ten years. I also like how the immigration bill is passed on employment and education skills compared to families trying to reunite.

  • Matt R

    I mean, it’s a nice thing to grant non-citizens, citizenship so we can stay the diverse nation we are. Serious criminals cannot apply, so it’s not like we’re granting criminals a safe haven in our country. Plus, the long time that passes to be granted citizenship might intimidate some illegal immigrants to not even go through the process, but atleast we gave them the chance. But, i think it is hard to control actions by trying to outlaw or having a legal law about it. History repeats itself and by trying to “control” illegal immigration, well i don’t think that is the approach or point we should be using this law for. I think we should be using it to grant non-citizens, citizenship.

    • Noah_G_2

      I agree with Matt R’s comment. Anyone with a clean slate should be allowed citizenship. Any person willing to work and has no criminal record is the kind of people we need to come to America.

  • Matt R

    I mean, it’s a nice thing to grant non-citizens, citizenship so we can stay the diverse nation we are. Serious criminals cannot apply, so it’s not like we’re granting criminals a safe haven in our country. Plus, the long time that passes to be granted citizenship might intimidate some illegal immigrants to not even go through the process, but atleast we gave them the chance. But, i think it is hard to control actions by trying to outlaw or having a legal law about it. History repeats itself and by trying to “control” illegal immigration, well i don’t think that is the approach or point we should be using this law for. I think we should be using it to grant non-citizens, citizenship.

  • Matt R

    I mean, it’s a nice thing to grant non-citizens, citizenship so we can stay the diverse nation we are. Serious criminals cannot apply, so it’s not like we’re granting criminals a safe haven in our country. Plus, the long time that passes to be granted citizenship might intimidate some illegal immigrants to not even go through the process, but atleast we gave them the chance. But, i think it is hard to control actions by trying to outlaw or having a legal law about it. History repeats itself and by trying to “control” illegal immigration, well i don’t think that is the approach or point we should be using this law for. I think we should be using it to grant non-citizens, citizenship.

    • Noah_G_2

      I agree with Matt R’s comment. Anyone with a clean slate should be allowed citizenship. Any person willing to work and has no criminal record is the kind of people we need to come to America.

  • Jenna_T_2

    scott_c_1,
    I agree with you. We need better security at the border. Hopefully by doing this we can stop or at least reduce the numbers of illegal immigrants that cross the borders. People should be able to come here and become a citizen but it is going to take a very long time like what this bill states.

  • Jenna_T_2

    scott_c_1,
    I agree with you. We need better security at the border. Hopefully by doing this we can stop or at least reduce the numbers of illegal immigrants that cross the borders. People should be able to come here and become a citizen but it is going to take a very long time like what this bill states.

  • Jenna_T_2

    scott_c_1,
    I agree with you. We need better security at the border. Hopefully by doing this we can stop or at least reduce the numbers of illegal immigrants that cross the borders. People should be able to come here and become a citizen but it is going to take a very long time like what this bill states.

  • Rohan

    I believe that giving 11 million undocumented will be a mistake because they will take jobs and even if the their was enough jobs making 10 years before they can get citizenship is way to long. It says that at the beginning of the introduction.

    • Tyler_W_1

      I agree with you Rohan, i dont think that giving millions of people coming into the United States without getting registered first is a bad idea. Then also taking up to 13 years to get a green card and full citizenship is way too long of a process, they could already have gone back to their starting country by then.

  • Rohan

    I believe that giving 11 million undocumented will be a mistake because they will take jobs and even if the their was enough jobs making 10 years before they can get citizenship is way to long. It says that at the beginning of the introduction.

  • Rohan

    I believe that giving 11 million undocumented will be a mistake because they will take jobs and even if the their was enough jobs making 10 years before they can get citizenship is way to long. It says that at the beginning of the introduction.

    • Tyler_W_1

      I agree with you Rohan, i dont think that giving millions of people coming into the United States without getting registered first is a bad idea. Then also taking up to 13 years to get a green card and full citizenship is way too long of a process, they could already have gone back to their starting country by then.

  • Noah_g_1

    I think all immigrants should be allowed to come to america, because when they come to the US they make our economy better because they take the jobs that no American is striving to get. “In the big cities they work as busboys cleaning tables in the restaurants or delivery boys.”

  • Noah_g_1

    I think all immigrants should be allowed to come to america, because when they come to the US they make our economy better because they take the jobs that no American is striving to get. “In the big cities they work as busboys cleaning tables in the restaurants or delivery boys.”

  • Wesley_C#1

    The process of the bill could be a lot better by having both parties agree make one. By minimizing the time it takes to become a citizen witch you have to wait 10 years,and three more years plus a 500 dollar assessed tax fund. This will help the economy by having the immigrants to pay taxes witch helps the state with money so that they can support cities and schools.

  • Wesley_C#1

    The process of the bill could be a lot better by having both parties agree make one. By minimizing the time it takes to become a citizen witch you have to wait 10 years,and three more years plus a 500 dollar assessed tax fund. This will help the economy by having the immigrants to pay taxes witch helps the state with money so that they can support cities and schools.

  • Wesley_C#1

    The process of the bill could be a lot better by having both parties agree make one. By minimizing the time it takes to become a citizen witch you have to wait 10 years,and three more years plus a 500 dollar assessed tax fund. This will help the economy by having the immigrants to pay taxes witch helps the state with money so that they can support cities and schools.

  • Jennifer_C_1

    I feel that select parts of this bill are fair, especially how the government will only let a certain amount of illegal immigrants become American citizens. In paragraph 3, when it says, “immigrants who came to the country before Dec. 31, 2011 can apply,” I feel that it is a very generous statement. It shows that the government is willing to have some of these immigrants become legal citizens.

  • Jennifer_C_1

    I feel that select parts of this bill are fair, especially how the government will only let a certain amount of illegal immigrants become American citizens. In paragraph 3, when it says, “immigrants who came to the country before Dec. 31, 2011 can apply,” I feel that it is a very generous statement. It shows that the government is willing to have some of these immigrants become legal citizens.

  • Tyler_W_1

    I dont think this bill is fair all the people waiting to become legal in the United States. I think making “undocumented workers” legal, is just going to try and make more come over, and thats not a good thing in my mind. I just don’t see how this bill is going to help us for the future.

  • Tyler_W_1

    I dont think this bill is fair all the people waiting to become legal in the United States. I think making “undocumented workers” legal, is just going to try and make more come over, and thats not a good thing in my mind. I just don’t see how this bill is going to help us for the future.

  • Tyler_W_1

    I dont think this bill is fair all the people waiting to become legal in the United States. I think making “undocumented workers” legal, is just going to try and make more come over, and thats not a good thing in my mind. I just don’t see how this bill is going to help us for the future.

  • Noah_g_1

    I wanna know why visas take so long to get. If they were easyer to get we would have a lot less illegal travel across the boarder. “It will prolong it to 2 or more years depending on how fast you were able to know there is a problem.”

  • Noah_g_1

    I wanna know why visas take so long to get. If they were easyer to get we would have a lot less illegal travel across the boarder. “It will prolong it to 2 or more years depending on how fast you were able to know there is a problem.”

  • Noah_g_1

    I wanna know why visas take so long to get. If they were easyer to get we would have a lot less illegal travel across the boarder. “It will prolong it to 2 or more years depending on how fast you were able to know there is a problem.”

  • Danielle_G_2

    “This immigration bill bases immigration rights on employment and education skills rather than on the principle of reuniting families. There will be debate and revision in the months ahead, so this is not the end of the story.”
    This quote from paragraph 8 leaves me thinking that the government is taking a step in the right direction. I think that they are correct in focusing on employment and education skills than reuniting families. I believe that we need to focus on we is best outcome for our country and I am excited to see what revisions we be made in the months ahead.

  • Danielle_G_2

    “This immigration bill bases immigration rights on employment and education skills rather than on the principle of reuniting families. There will be debate and revision in the months ahead, so this is not the end of the story.”
    This quote from paragraph 8 leaves me thinking that the government is taking a step in the right direction. I think that they are correct in focusing on employment and education skills than reuniting families. I believe that we need to focus on we is best outcome for our country and I am excited to see what revisions we be made in the months ahead.

  • De Jai_B_2

    “Young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers, would receive a faster path to citizenship. They could apply for a green card within five years of being granted provisional status. Agricultural workers would also face a speedier and less costly path.” This quote from paragraph 7 is a great way to deal with the issue. This way children wouldn’t have to work had to gain citizenship. I wonder what will happen to the parents of the “Dreamers?”

    • Lauren_F_4

      @De Jai
      This is a very important thing for America to do. I agree with you and it is a great way to deal with this issue. Because they are only a child they most likely went to the US because of their parents and it is unfair if they are treated the same.

  • De Jai_B_2

    “Young undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children, known as DREAMers, would receive a faster path to citizenship. They could apply for a green card within five years of being granted provisional status. Agricultural workers would also face a speedier and less costly path.” This quote from paragraph 7 is a great way to deal with the issue. This way children wouldn’t have to work had to gain citizenship. I wonder what will happen to the parents of the “Dreamers?”

    • Lauren_F_4

      @De Jai
      This is a very important thing for America to do. I agree with you and it is a great way to deal with this issue. Because they are only a child they most likely went to the US because of their parents and it is unfair if they are treated the same.

  • De Jai_B_2

    I agree with David Jenny. This bill is a great way to allow 11 million immigrants to have a better life. I think doing background checks on immigrants is a great idea. The country will be safer by doing this.

  • De Jai_B_2

    I agree with David Jenny. This bill is a great way to allow 11 million immigrants to have a better life. I think doing background checks on immigrants is a great idea. The country will be safer by doing this.

  • Noah_G_2

    I think this bill is what America needs. This country was built on immigration. The first settlers were from several different European countries. For years, it was easy for people to come into the country. After 9/11, we became really paranoid and put a lot more money into border control. That was the last big terror event in the country that killed thousands of people. It’s probably safe for us to put our guard down and lighten up on border defenses.

    • Alex_C_3

      Remember that 9/11 could of been different if we had more strict immigration policies. If we lighten up on the border then we may have another terrorist attack. Don’t you remember the Boston Marathon bombing? That was another terrorist attack that was pretty recent actually. Not all, but many immigrants, especially most illegal immigrants, are criminals. Like Sheldon Fisher told me,” It’s like telling them, hello. Welcome to America. Come make us miserable.” Remember we may need more protection than we think or else this immigration problem will get worse. Yes immigration made America, and yes immigration made America what it is today, but some people need to be checked. Might as well get the problem done with now instead of later when it’s worse. Some immigrants are good and some are bad, but we need to check them. Wouldn’t a background check be nice?

      • Olive

        The Boston Bomber was a legal citizen of the United States.

      • sneha_k_3

        Alex_C_3,

        I am unclear as to the point you are trying to make. Are you stating that background checks need to be added to this bill? Or, are you simply stating that some immigrants are bad?

        Regardless, your statement, “Not all, but many immigrants, especially most illegal immigrants, are criminals”, shows that you are misinformed (Is there anyone or anything that made you think this way?). Most immigrants (legal and illegal) are NOT criminals and it is incredibly important that you know that. The few immigrants that have committed terrorist attacks represent a small group of extremists within the United States, and it is important that you do not generalize.

      • anastacia_b_2

        I disagree with your statement saying that most “illegal immigrants” are criminals. Yes, some of them do participate in illegal activity, but don’t lots of Americans do the same? But because they have that tag “illegal”, everybody automatically assumes that they are all criminals out to murder our family and rape our loved ones. Yes, obviously their very presence here is illegal, but just because they are referred to as “illegal” people, doesn’t mean that they are here for illegal and malicious reasons. Some of them want to come here to have a better life for their families, and they are being punished for wanting to be an American citizen. In “The Other Side of Immigration” a lady said that no people are illegal. I totally agree with that statement. A person is not illegal, yet defined by an illegal action that they have done. They are undocumented, not illegal.

    • anastacia_b_2

      I disagree. The bombing marathon was also a terror event in our country, not up to the caliber of 9/11, but a terror event nonetheless. Terrorism is terrorism, and if people know we are lightening up on border patrol, it will give some people ideas. I think that immigrants should be able to come over, but I don’t think that we need to lighten up on the border defenses. In my opinion, that’s a disaster waiting to happen. When ANYBODY can travel into our country, not just Mexicans, what do you suppose would happen if we were to lighten up on border patrol?

    • anastacia_b_2

      I disagree. The bombing marathon was also a terror event in our country, not up to the caliber of 9/11, but a terror event nonetheless. Terrorism is terrorism, and if people know we are lightening up on border patrol, it will give some people ideas. I think that immigrants should be able to come over, but I don’t think that we need to lighten up on the border defenses. In my opinion, that’s a disaster waiting to happen. When ANYBODY can travel into our country, not just Mexicans, what do you suppose would happen if we were to lighten up on border patrol?

  • Noah_G_2

    I think this bill is what America needs. This country was built on immigration. The first settlers were from several different European countries. For years, it was easy for people to come into the country. After 9/11, we became really paranoid and put a lot more money into border control. That was the last big terror event in the country that killed thousands of people. It’s probably safe for us to put our guard down and lighten up on border defenses.

    • Alex_C_3

      Remember that 9/11 could of been different if we had more strict immigration policies. If we lighten up on the border then we may have another terrorist attack. Don’t you remember the Boston Marathon bombing? That was another terrorist attack that was pretty recent actually. Not all, but many immigrants, especially most illegal immigrants, are criminals. Like Sheldon Fisher told me,” It’s like telling them, hello. Welcome to America. Come make us miserable.” Remember we may need more protection than we think or else this immigration problem will get worse. Yes immigration made America, and yes immigration made America what it is today, but some people need to be checked. Might as well get the problem done with now instead of later when it’s worse. Some immigrants are good and some are bad, but we need to check them. Wouldn’t a background check be nice?

      • Olive

        The Boston Bomber was a legal citizen of the United States.

      • sneha_k_3

        Alex_C_3,

        I am unclear as to the point you are trying to make. Are you stating that background checks need to be added to this bill? Or, are you simply stating that some immigrants are bad?

        Regardless, your statement, “Not all, but many immigrants, especially most illegal immigrants, are criminals”, shows that you are misinformed (Is there anyone or anything that made you think this way?). Most immigrants (legal and illegal) are NOT criminals and it is incredibly important that you know that. The few immigrants that have committed terrorist attacks represent a small group of extremists within the United States, and it is important that you do not generalize.

      • anastacia_b_2

        I disagree with your statement saying that most “illegal immigrants” are criminals. Yes, some of them do participate in illegal activity, but don’t lots of Americans do the same? But because they have that tag “illegal”, everybody automatically assumes that they are all criminals out to murder our family and rape our loved ones. Yes, obviously their very presence here is illegal, but just because they are referred to as “illegal” people, doesn’t mean that they are here for illegal and malicious reasons. Some of them want to come here to have a better life for their families, and they are being punished for wanting to be an American citizen. In “The Other Side of Immigration” a lady said that no people are illegal. I totally agree with that statement. A person is not illegal, yet defined by an illegal action that they have done. They are undocumented, not illegal.

    • anastacia_b_2

      I disagree. The bombing marathon was also a terror event in our country, not up to the caliber of 9/11, but a terror event nonetheless. Terrorism is terrorism, and if people know we are lightening up on border patrol, it will give some people ideas. I think that immigrants should be able to come over, but I don’t think that we need to lighten up on the border defenses. In my opinion, that’s a disaster waiting to happen. When ANYBODY can travel into our country, not just Mexicans, what do you suppose would happen if we were to lighten up on border patrol?

    • anastacia_b_2

      I disagree. The bombing marathon was also a terror event in our country, not up to the caliber of 9/11, but a terror event nonetheless. Terrorism is terrorism, and if people know we are lightening up on border patrol, it will give some people ideas. I think that immigrants should be able to come over, but I don’t think that we need to lighten up on the border defenses. In my opinion, that’s a disaster waiting to happen. When ANYBODY can travel into our country, not just Mexicans, what do you suppose would happen if we were to lighten up on border patrol?

  • Maddie_C_4

    One of the quotes from the article says, “This immigration bill bases immigration rights on employment and education skills rather than on the principle of reuniting families.” I think that it is good that they are focusing on employment because that is way a majority of immigrants come to the United States, I also think that it is heartless that they are not concerned with reuniting the families. It is important to get the families put back together and they need to have part of their focus on that.

    • olivia_m_4

      I agree with the fact that no family should be torn apart, but the parents did that to their family. They came here by their own choice; no one forced them, and if they get caught here illegally and their child gets taken away from them, I personally think that it’s their own fault because they shouldn’t be here in the first place. As it says over and over again… it’s illegal. Illegal. No matter what, if you cross over that border without government permission, it’s illegal, and you will be deported.

  • Maddie_C_4

    One of the quotes from the article says, “This immigration bill bases immigration rights on employment and education skills rather than on the principle of reuniting families.” I think that it is good that they are focusing on employment because that is way a majority of immigrants come to the United States, I also think that it is heartless that they are not concerned with reuniting the families. It is important to get the families put back together and they need to have part of their focus on that.

    • olivia_m_4

      I agree with the fact that no family should be torn apart, but the parents did that to their family. They came here by their own choice; no one forced them, and if they get caught here illegally and their child gets taken away from them, I personally think that it’s their own fault because they shouldn’t be here in the first place. As it says over and over again… it’s illegal. Illegal. No matter what, if you cross over that border without government permission, it’s illegal, and you will be deported.

  • emily_r_3

    I think that immigration reform is a good thing and this bill is a good idea. “$500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. Those convicted of serious crimes are not eligible to apply,” as stated in paragraph 3 shows the process of becoming a U.S. citizens. I think this bill would be good because if people actually take the time to go through this process you can tell that they are determined to become a United States citizen. If we make the process of becoming a citizen easier, then the immigrants will take advantage of it and become a citizen just for the money. In my opinion, we still need to take immigration reform a step further to prevent illegal immigrants from crossing the border and get them sent back to their home country. If the immigrants want to take our jobs and money then they should come to America the right way and start the process of becoming a citizen.

    • Madeline_F_1

      @Emily_R_3 I completely agree with your statement that if we make it any easier to get a green card they will have families and family applying.” If we make the process of becoming a citizen easier, then the immigrants will take advantage of it and become a citizen just for the money.” The only idea I am all for is making them learn English in order to get their green card. Most people would say they need to learn our main language but how would feel if you snuck over the border and when you were applying to live and work there you had to learn a whole other language.

  • emily_r_3

    I think that immigration reform is a good thing and this bill is a good idea. “$500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. Those convicted of serious crimes are not eligible to apply,” as stated in paragraph 3 shows the process of becoming a U.S. citizens. I think this bill would be good because if people actually take the time to go through this process you can tell that they are determined to become a United States citizen. If we make the process of becoming a citizen easier, then the immigrants will take advantage of it and become a citizen just for the money. In my opinion, we still need to take immigration reform a step further to prevent illegal immigrants from crossing the border and get them sent back to their home country. If the immigrants want to take our jobs and money then they should come to America the right way and start the process of becoming a citizen.

  • emily_r_3

    I think that immigration reform is a good thing and this bill is a good idea. “$500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. Those convicted of serious crimes are not eligible to apply,” as stated in paragraph 3 shows the process of becoming a U.S. citizens. I think this bill would be good because if people actually take the time to go through this process you can tell that they are determined to become a United States citizen. If we make the process of becoming a citizen easier, then the immigrants will take advantage of it and become a citizen just for the money. In my opinion, we still need to take immigration reform a step further to prevent illegal immigrants from crossing the border and get them sent back to their home country. If the immigrants want to take our jobs and money then they should come to America the right way and start the process of becoming a citizen.

    • Madeline_F_1

      @Emily_R_3 I completely agree with your statement that if we make it any easier to get a green card they will have families and family applying.” If we make the process of becoming a citizen easier, then the immigrants will take advantage of it and become a citizen just for the money.” The only idea I am all for is making them learn English in order to get their green card. Most people would say they need to learn our main language but how would feel if you snuck over the border and when you were applying to live and work there you had to learn a whole other language.

  • Emily_R_3

    I think immigration reform is a good thing for the United States. I also agree with the new bill that changes the process to become a citizen. In paragraph 3 of this article it states the new way to become a citizen. “To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. Those convicted of serious crimes are not eligible to apply.” The process to become a citizen may take over 13 years. I think that the long time it takes is a good thing. The people who are willing to go through this process prove that they are committed to becoming a citizen. Many of the illegal immigrants will not want to become a citizen because all they want to do is send the money home to their family and then eventually return home. This new immigration reform bill is going to be a good thing, but there are still other problems this bill doesn’t fix. The illegal immigrants are taking the jobs of the U.S. citizens. Many people may say that the citizens refuse to do those jobs, I think that they will. Since the jobs are rapidly decreasing leaving millions unemployed, people will eventually get to the point where they would take those jobs. I think this immigration reform bill is a good start, but more still needs to be done.

  • Emily_R_3

    I think immigration reform is a good thing for the United States. I also agree with the new bill that changes the process to become a citizen. In paragraph 3 of this article it states the new way to become a citizen. “To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years. Those convicted of serious crimes are not eligible to apply.” The process to become a citizen may take over 13 years. I think that the long time it takes is a good thing. The people who are willing to go through this process prove that they are committed to becoming a citizen. Many of the illegal immigrants will not want to become a citizen because all they want to do is send the money home to their family and then eventually return home. This new immigration reform bill is going to be a good thing, but there are still other problems this bill doesn’t fix. The illegal immigrants are taking the jobs of the U.S. citizens. Many people may say that the citizens refuse to do those jobs, I think that they will. Since the jobs are rapidly decreasing leaving millions unemployed, people will eventually get to the point where they would take those jobs. I think this immigration reform bill is a good start, but more still needs to be done.

  • catherine_j_4

    I think that this is a good, but small, step in the right direction. It’s good that they’re allowing the illegal immigrants already in the US to become legal citizens, but I think getting a green card this way will take way too long. If the illegal immigrants have been here and haven’t gotten caught, and they know it’ll take more than 10 years to get citizenship, why would they take that step?

  • catherine_j_4

    I think that this is a good, but small, step in the right direction. It’s good that they’re allowing the illegal immigrants already in the US to become legal citizens, but I think getting a green card this way will take way too long. If the illegal immigrants have been here and haven’t gotten caught, and they know it’ll take more than 10 years to get citizenship, why would they take that step?

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  • Jocelyn Kilpatrick

    Though this may just be a small step, it is indeed a first step in the right direction of immigration. This may be a good way for illegal immigrants already in the U.S. to get legalized, but how will this benefit people outside the U.S.? And I am definitely in agreement with Catherine_i_4, it is way too long regarding the greencard

  • Jocelyn Kilpatrick

    Though this may just be a small step, it is indeed a first step in the right direction of immigration. This may be a good way for illegal immigrants already in the U.S. to get legalized, but how will this benefit people outside the U.S.? And I am definitely in agreement with Catherine_i_4, it is way too long regarding the greencard

  • Logan_S_1

    I think that this bill will be a great improvement for immigration reform, however, it will not completely solve the problem. It is great that they are allowing more people to gain citizenship, but I am not sure that the illegal immigrants should be able to gain citizenship because they broke laws to get into this country. Also, they probably won’t want to wait 10 years, when they can stay here without getting caught and no penalty. However, the increased border security will surely be beneficial.

    • Sai_S_1

      I agree with Logan_S_1, like he said many of the illegal immigrants won’t stick around for 10 years just so they can get a green card, and I will also agree that the tightening of the border security will be very beneficial, seeing the fact that many of the immigrants can come into the United States illegally right under their noses and then went back to their home country right under the same noses. Unfortunately, there can be many problems when it comes to tightening the border patrol, such as not a lot of people are willing to give up on their life long dreams and just go and join the border patrol. Another might be smuggling of other people illegally for money, and we may never know who the smuggling people are so it may give them a really hard job as well.

    • Melissa_C_3

      I agree with Logan_S_1 giving them the opportunity to become a citizen may help a bit, but it is not the best way to solve our problems. Instead America should enforce there laws about deporting and hiring illegal immigrants. They should also try to eliminate pull factors that make them want to come to America. That way they would not want to come hear in the first place then we don’t have to deal with them. I know people want to help them but we cant help everyone here illegally.They are not benefiting us, they are taking the money they make and instead of putting it in Americas economy they put in Mexico. Its almost like they are stealing from our economy. securing the boarder may help a bit, but considering the fact that it is such a large boarder it would be a lot of money to secure it. Even though it is secured there is always a way to get by. As I said before the best thing to do is eliminate the pull factors.

  • Logan_S_1

    I think that this bill will be a great improvement for immigration reform, however, it will not completely solve the problem. It is great that they are allowing more people to gain citizenship, but I am not sure that the illegal immigrants should be able to gain citizenship because they broke laws to get into this country. Also, they probably won’t want to wait 10 years, when they can stay here without getting caught and no penalty. However, the increased border security will surely be beneficial.

    • Sai_S_1

      I agree with Logan_S_1, like he said many of the illegal immigrants won’t stick around for 10 years just so they can get a green card, and I will also agree that the tightening of the border security will be very beneficial, seeing the fact that many of the immigrants can come into the United States illegally right under their noses and then went back to their home country right under the same noses. Unfortunately, there can be many problems when it comes to tightening the border patrol, such as not a lot of people are willing to give up on their life long dreams and just go and join the border patrol. Another might be smuggling of other people illegally for money, and we may never know who the smuggling people are so it may give them a really hard job as well.

    • Melissa_C_3

      I agree with Logan_S_1 giving them the opportunity to become a citizen may help a bit, but it is not the best way to solve our problems. Instead America should enforce there laws about deporting and hiring illegal immigrants. They should also try to eliminate pull factors that make them want to come to America. That way they would not want to come hear in the first place then we don’t have to deal with them. I know people want to help them but we cant help everyone here illegally.They are not benefiting us, they are taking the money they make and instead of putting it in Americas economy they put in Mexico. Its almost like they are stealing from our economy. securing the boarder may help a bit, but considering the fact that it is such a large boarder it would be a lot of money to secure it. Even though it is secured there is always a way to get by. As I said before the best thing to do is eliminate the pull factors.

  • Olivia_C_4

    The good thing about this bill is that it “is a very balanced bill,” (From paragraph 3 in article) and that the two sides finally came up with something they can both agree on. But the down side is, like everyone else has mentioned, is that the wait time for them to just become a temporary citizen is way to long. No one should have to wait 13 years just to live permanently in America, because by then the ones who might be coming here because they were in poverty, and needed the money, will already have had to resort to desperate measures; if that means coming in illegally, or starving. So therefore, I think the system would be good if they decreased the wait time. I would also like to mention how I think both sides have pretty valid points, but does anyone think that there could be a better way to solve this issue so that both sides can be happy, along with the Americans and immigrants?

  • Olivia_C_4

    The good thing about this bill is that it “is a very balanced bill,” (From paragraph 3 in article) and that the two sides finally came up with something they can both agree on. But the down side is, like everyone else has mentioned, is that the wait time for them to just become a temporary citizen is way to long. No one should have to wait 13 years just to live permanently in America, because by then the ones who might be coming here because they were in poverty, and needed the money, will already have had to resort to desperate measures; if that means coming in illegally, or starving. So therefore, I think the system would be good if they decreased the wait time. I would also like to mention how I think both sides have pretty valid points, but does anyone think that there could be a better way to solve this issue so that both sides can be happy, along with the Americans and immigrants?

  • Olivia_C_4

    I would have to agree with Jocelyn Kilpatrick. This is a small step in the right direction. At least they are actually trying to do something about the problem, instead of just ignoring it. They are working together on a problem that has been occurring for years, which I personally think is great. I also like how they clearly stated their goal for this bill in the article, which sounds like a combination that will try to satisfy everyone. “One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration. And that’s what our bill does.” (Paragraph 3 from the article above) But of course, the time of waiting is a big issue that they should probably revise.

  • Olivia_C_4

    I would have to agree with Jocelyn Kilpatrick. This is a small step in the right direction. At least they are actually trying to do something about the problem, instead of just ignoring it. They are working together on a problem that has been occurring for years, which I personally think is great. I also like how they clearly stated their goal for this bill in the article, which sounds like a combination that will try to satisfy everyone. “One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration. And that’s what our bill does.” (Paragraph 3 from the article above) But of course, the time of waiting is a big issue that they should probably revise.

  • Diana_G_2

    I think that it’s great that both sides/parties are able to come together to pass a bill that helps undocumented immigrants gain U.S. citizenship. I don’t completely agree with the undocumented immigrants having to wait about 13 years for full legal citizenship though. It’s a long period of time for the whole process to be completed. What if they get deported while in the process of having U.S. citizenship? I think that the amount of time it takes for full citizenship should be shortened so that the process can be much quicker.

    • megan_r_2

      Diana_G_2, I completely agree. There needs to be a process easier to be able to obtain citizenship here. The only problem is that there are “11 million undocumented immigrants” (paragraph 1, article above) and I am sure that going through all the papers to get 11 million undocumented to be come documented will take a while.

  • Diana_G_2

    I think that it’s great that both sides/parties are able to come together to pass a bill that helps undocumented immigrants gain U.S. citizenship. I don’t completely agree with the undocumented immigrants having to wait about 13 years for full legal citizenship though. It’s a long period of time for the whole process to be completed. What if they get deported while in the process of having U.S. citizenship? I think that the amount of time it takes for full citizenship should be shortened so that the process can be much quicker.

    • megan_r_2

      Diana_G_2, I completely agree. There needs to be a process easier to be able to obtain citizenship here. The only problem is that there are “11 million undocumented immigrants” (paragraph 1, article above) and I am sure that going through all the papers to get 11 million undocumented to be come documented will take a while.

  • Jenna_T_2

    “Employers in Silicon Valley will be allowed more visas each year for high-skilled foreign workers, expanding the number of H1-B visas for high-tech workers from 65,000 to 110,000 per year and creating a new visa category for foreign entrepreneurs who want to start a business in the U.S. A new “W-visa” would allow companies to eventually hire as many as 75,000 low-skilled, non-agricultural workers per year – a compromise by big business and organized labor. But employers who hire undocumented workers will be prosecuted.”
    This quote from the article (paragraph 5) shows them expanding the number of visas that will become available to immigrants and even a new visa being available as well. They even say that the employers that hire undocumented workers will be prosecuted. They talk about the amount of visas that will be able to be given out, but what about the process of receiving a visa. Are there any changes going to be made? Will there be criminal background checks before they receive one? Why are they just telling us about the number of visas? I believe they should be telling us more about the process of getting one, so that we will be able to know what immigrants are receiving one and will be aloud to come work here.

  • Jenna_T_2

    “Employers in Silicon Valley will be allowed more visas each year for high-skilled foreign workers, expanding the number of H1-B visas for high-tech workers from 65,000 to 110,000 per year and creating a new visa category for foreign entrepreneurs who want to start a business in the U.S. A new “W-visa” would allow companies to eventually hire as many as 75,000 low-skilled, non-agricultural workers per year – a compromise by big business and organized labor. But employers who hire undocumented workers will be prosecuted.”
    This quote from the article (paragraph 5) shows them expanding the number of visas that will become available to immigrants and even a new visa being available as well. They even say that the employers that hire undocumented workers will be prosecuted. They talk about the amount of visas that will be able to be given out, but what about the process of receiving a visa. Are there any changes going to be made? Will there be criminal background checks before they receive one? Why are they just telling us about the number of visas? I believe they should be telling us more about the process of getting one, so that we will be able to know what immigrants are receiving one and will be aloud to come work here.

  • Jenna_T_2

    “Employers in Silicon Valley will be allowed more visas each year for high-skilled foreign workers, expanding the number of H1-B visas for high-tech workers from 65,000 to 110,000 per year and creating a new visa category for foreign entrepreneurs who want to start a business in the U.S. A new “W-visa” would allow companies to eventually hire as many as 75,000 low-skilled, non-agricultural workers per year – a compromise by big business and organized labor. But employers who hire undocumented workers will be prosecuted.”
    This quote from the article (paragraph 5) shows them expanding the number of visas that will become available to immigrants and even a new visa being available as well. They even say that the employers that hire undocumented workers will be prosecuted. They talk about the amount of visas that will be able to be given out, but what about the process of receiving a visa. Are there any changes going to be made? Will there be criminal background checks before they receive one? Why are they just telling us about the number of visas? I believe they should be telling us more about the process of getting one, so that we will be able to know what immigrants are receiving one and will be aloud to come work here.

  • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Melissa_C_2

    I agree with what the Gang of Eight have come up with to solve our immigration issue. Although it does take roughly about fifteen year to gain citizenship, I’m just glad we might finally have a plan and hope for the many people who have been trying so long to become officially apart of America.

  • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Melissa_C_2

    I agree with what the Gang of Eight have come up with to solve our immigration issue. Although it does take roughly about fifteen year to gain citizenship, I’m just glad we might finally have a plan and hope for the many people who have been trying so long to become officially apart of America.

  • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Melissa_C_2

    I have to agree with Diana_G_2. Thirteen years is pretty lengthy and who knows how long some of these people have been waiting already! In addition the government does not know the situation of every person and asking them to be loyal and good for such an amount of time is a bit much. Why would you suppose it is so hard to just come up with a “short and sweet” solution?

  • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Melissa_C_2

    I have to agree with Diana_G_2. Thirteen years is pretty lengthy and who knows how long some of these people have been waiting already! In addition the government does not know the situation of every person and asking them to be loyal and good for such an amount of time is a bit much. Why would you suppose it is so hard to just come up with a “short and sweet” solution?

  • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Melissa_C_2

    I have to agree with Diana_G_2. Thirteen years is pretty lengthy and who knows how long some of these people have been waiting already! In addition the government does not know the situation of every person and asking them to be loyal and good for such an amount of time is a bit much. Why would you suppose it is so hard to just come up with a “short and sweet” solution?

  • Olivia_C_4

    you make a good point Jenna_T_2. What is the process of receiving a Visa? And will it be a lengthy process as well? I think more clarification and specific information would be good to include about the bill itself, and the visas. What I am wondering is if this bill is actually going to go into action or not. I think it would be really interesting to follow up on this in the future, and see what happens, and if they will actually pass it. I know in the article it said that this wasn’t the end of the story, and I hope it isn’t because I would definitely like more clarification and information.

  • Olivia_C_4

    you make a good point Jenna_T_2. What is the process of receiving a Visa? And will it be a lengthy process as well? I think more clarification and specific information would be good to include about the bill itself, and the visas. What I am wondering is if this bill is actually going to go into action or not. I think it would be really interesting to follow up on this in the future, and see what happens, and if they will actually pass it. I know in the article it said that this wasn’t the end of the story, and I hope it isn’t because I would definitely like more clarification and information.

  • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Melissa_C_2

    Rahi_P_2 great question! How do you know if he or she has actually been here before December 31, 2011. Well I would assume they would ask how old he or she is and when they arrived here and ect…. Yes, I’m sure they could be lying about their age and arrival, but I suppose its just one of those situations where they have to trust that they are telling the truth. If he or she really wants to become apart of the US then they will follow the laws and have cooperation.

    • Rahi_P_2

      RE: Melissa_C_2, Ok, I just wanted to know this because, they could be lying about when they have come here and I think that it might cause more problems for the amount of time it would take for people to apply and get a green card, it everyone is just saying that they have come to the US BEFORE Dec. 31, 2011. So thanks for answering that question!

  • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Melissa_C_2

    Rahi_P_2 great question! How do you know if he or she has actually been here before December 31, 2011. Well I would assume they would ask how old he or she is and when they arrived here and ect…. Yes, I’m sure they could be lying about their age and arrival, but I suppose its just one of those situations where they have to trust that they are telling the truth. If he or she really wants to become apart of the US then they will follow the laws and have cooperation.

    • Rahi_P_2

      RE: Melissa_C_2, Ok, I just wanted to know this because, they could be lying about when they have come here and I think that it might cause more problems for the amount of time it would take for people to apply and get a green card, it everyone is just saying that they have come to the US BEFORE Dec. 31, 2011. So thanks for answering that question!

  • Sai_S_1

    I believe that the price an applicant has to pay is a little too high, considering the fact that almost every illegal immigrant that comes to the United States was in poverty when he/she was in their home country. There is also the fact that other than the application fee, the applicant has to pay assessed fee that the government is giving to them. That might be a possible reason why people of other countries decide to come to the United States illegally since they can’t pay the price. The immigrants have to pay a lot and have to wait a long time to get the citizenship they want to obtain in the United States. Waiting for a long 10 years to get your green card and then wait another 3 years to get their citizenship they wanted for so long, may also be a reason why many immigrants want to come to the United States illegally and then go back to their home country, without paying any of the taxes.

    • iymoni_M_4

      I agree the price is very large, and they aren’t paid that much to begin with. 10 years to wait for a green card is a very long time, and to wait 3 years for ones citizenship. That’s 13 years and the +500 money. But it could be worse, it could be 20 years and +1500. And if they’ve tried so very hard to get here, by the paying smugglers, than they can try to scarp together the money. Anyone else have any thing to add about the waiting time or the price for the green card and full citizenship?

    • Melissa_C_3

      I agree with your statement, if they have to go through so much trouble to become a citizen why would they. According to this website http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/30/in-1986-congress-tried-to-solve-immigration-why-didnt-it-work/ In 1986 Ronald Reagan passed an amnesty law that allowed immigrants to have citizenship after five years. Instead it back fired and the amount of immigrants largely increased. So why would giving them citizenship help now. I think that it would be better if we eliminate pull factors and if they do come at least give them better reasons to become a citizen legally.

    • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Gretta_H_1

      Sai, I agree that having to wait thirteen long years to gain a full citizenship is much too long and may cause some people to turn to illegal immigration, but I think the illegal immigrants in the U.S that want to become citizens can afford the $500 fee. After coming to America, they have begun to work to make money with out giving a portion of what they make back to the government, and have saved quite a bit for themselves and their families. In all the time they have spent making this money, they probably owe far more than $500 in the taxes they don’t pay. Instead of sending them home, the bill offers to let them become legal citizens and continue their lives in the U.S. They only need to pay a small portion of the amount of money they actually owe, so it is a win win situation for them. They become citizens, and pay a small fee instead of the larger amount they really owe to our country.

  • Sai_S_1

    I believe that the price an applicant has to pay is a little too high, considering the fact that almost every illegal immigrant that comes to the United States was in poverty when he/she was in their home country. There is also the fact that other than the application fee, the applicant has to pay assessed fee that the government is giving to them. That might be a possible reason why people of other countries decide to come to the United States illegally since they can’t pay the price. The immigrants have to pay a lot and have to wait a long time to get the citizenship they want to obtain in the United States. Waiting for a long 10 years to get your green card and then wait another 3 years to get their citizenship they wanted for so long, may also be a reason why many immigrants want to come to the United States illegally and then go back to their home country, without paying any of the taxes.

    • iymoni_M_4

      I agree the price is very large, and they aren’t paid that much to begin with. 10 years to wait for a green card is a very long time, and to wait 3 years for ones citizenship. That’s 13 years and the +500 money. But it could be worse, it could be 20 years and +1500. And if they’ve tried so very hard to get here, by the paying smugglers, than they can try to scarp together the money. Anyone else have any thing to add about the waiting time or the price for the green card and full citizenship?

    • Melissa_C_3

      I agree with your statement, if they have to go through so much trouble to become a citizen why would they. According to this website http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/01/30/in-1986-congress-tried-to-solve-immigration-why-didnt-it-work/ In 1986 Ronald Reagan passed an amnesty law that allowed immigrants to have citizenship after five years. Instead it back fired and the amount of immigrants largely increased. So why would giving them citizenship help now. I think that it would be better if we eliminate pull factors and if they do come at least give them better reasons to become a citizen legally.

    • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Gretta_H_1

      Sai, I agree that having to wait thirteen long years to gain a full citizenship is much too long and may cause some people to turn to illegal immigration, but I think the illegal immigrants in the U.S that want to become citizens can afford the $500 fee. After coming to America, they have begun to work to make money with out giving a portion of what they make back to the government, and have saved quite a bit for themselves and their families. In all the time they have spent making this money, they probably owe far more than $500 in the taxes they don’t pay. Instead of sending them home, the bill offers to let them become legal citizens and continue their lives in the U.S. They only need to pay a small portion of the amount of money they actually owe, so it is a win win situation for them. They become citizens, and pay a small fee instead of the larger amount they really owe to our country.

  • Olivia M

    While I feel like there are many good and bad parts of this bill, what caught my attention was the use of surveillance drones. I am very conflicted about the use of drones because while they do provide added security, they can also be used to spy on private citizens. I feel like if the border of our country is being watched, what’s next? Are we going to get to the point where every street corner and house is monitored by the government because we that afraid of illegal immigrants? I just question how necessary tightening up security is when illegal immigration seems to be the least of our worries right now. A few people said tightening up border security would help prevent terrorists. I have not, however, seen in the past few months a bunch of illegal immigrants spreading terror. In fact, an American citizen was responsible for the most recent act of terror, the Boston Bombing. It is an incredibly difficult topic to discuss and there really does not seem to be a great answer, however, America needs to find some balance.

    • C.C.Dean

      Drones so close to, or on, US soil is certainly a threat to American citizens’ privacy & could be a precursor to the success of any possible totalitarian rulers here (though I’m not hoping, nor expecting any- but you never know). There are many things less worrisome than illegal immigration that are major focuses in America right now (weed). Illegal immigration (not so much in terms of jobs being taken away from Americans), if it were to be complete amnesty & open borders, then more and more citizens would require services. As America continues it’s increasing dependence on the welfare state (including food stamps), somebody must pay for them, causing more of an economic burden on the government (thus tax increases to pay for government) at a time when America is nearing 17 TRILLION in debt.
      Terrorism is certainly not the right word to use, but some/many (though not most/all) are involved in drug cartels and gangs. Whoever called it “terrorism” probably meant violent crimes committed- usually between those involved in the illegal activity but there are always innocent bystanders. By securing the border (without drones), we may be able to slow down the trafficking of drugs, weapons, and even humans. This would help to ensure safety in the future.

  • Olivia M

    While I feel like there are many good and bad parts of this bill, what caught my attention was the use of surveillance drones. I am very conflicted about the use of drones because while they do provide added security, they can also be used to spy on private citizens. I feel like if the border of our country is being watched, what’s next? Are we going to get to the point where every street corner and house is monitored by the government because we that afraid of illegal immigrants? I just question how necessary tightening up security is when illegal immigration seems to be the least of our worries right now. A few people said tightening up border security would help prevent terrorists. I have not, however, seen in the past few months a bunch of illegal immigrants spreading terror. In fact, an American citizen was responsible for the most recent act of terror, the Boston Bombing. It is an incredibly difficult topic to discuss and there really does not seem to be a great answer, however, America needs to find some balance.

  • Olivia M

    While I feel like there are many good and bad parts of this bill, what caught my attention was the use of surveillance drones. I am very conflicted about the use of drones because while they do provide added security, they can also be used to spy on private citizens. I feel like if the border of our country is being watched, what’s next? Are we going to get to the point where every street corner and house is monitored by the government because we that afraid of illegal immigrants? I just question how necessary tightening up security is when illegal immigration seems to be the least of our worries right now. A few people said tightening up border security would help prevent terrorists. I have not, however, seen in the past few months a bunch of illegal immigrants spreading terror. In fact, an American citizen was responsible for the most recent act of terror, the Boston Bombing. It is an incredibly difficult topic to discuss and there really does not seem to be a great answer, however, America needs to find some balance.

    • C.C.Dean

      Drones so close to, or on, US soil is certainly a threat to American citizens’ privacy & could be a precursor to the success of any possible totalitarian rulers here (though I’m not hoping, nor expecting any- but you never know). There are many things less worrisome than illegal immigration that are major focuses in America right now (weed). Illegal immigration (not so much in terms of jobs being taken away from Americans), if it were to be complete amnesty & open borders, then more and more citizens would require services. As America continues it’s increasing dependence on the welfare state (including food stamps), somebody must pay for them, causing more of an economic burden on the government (thus tax increases to pay for government) at a time when America is nearing 17 TRILLION in debt.
      Terrorism is certainly not the right word to use, but some/many (though not most/all) are involved in drug cartels and gangs. Whoever called it “terrorism” probably meant violent crimes committed- usually between those involved in the illegal activity but there are always innocent bystanders. By securing the border (without drones), we may be able to slow down the trafficking of drugs, weapons, and even humans. This would help to ensure safety in the future.

  • Tori_H_4

    I personally believe that we need to create an immigration reform that fairly functions for all countries. The immigrants coming to America are obviously coming for a reason, and there isn’t much we can successfully accomplish to help these less fortunate countries before we help our own country. We could possibly create a quicker background check system for those coming from other countries that are good, hardworking people that just want to be able to provide a better lifestyle for their families. We are all just people trying our best and working our hardest to survive, and although I believe we need to get our country on its feet first, we need to look out for the rest of the world, too. As for the undocumented immigrants already in America, I believe that they should also have a series of background checks to determine whether or not they should be aloud to stay in America.

    • Madison_F_1

      I agree completely. “I believe we need to get our country on its feet first, we need to look out for the rest of the world, too.” This is a great way of saying it. Our country is always so worried about making the U.S look like a great place to be and a place with a great economy. But in reality, we are suffering. Not everyone realizes it yet, but we are. Although we shouldn’t forget about other countries, less fortunate or not, we shouldn’t forget about ourselves.

  • Tori_H_4

    I personally believe that we need to create an immigration reform that fairly functions for all countries. The immigrants coming to America are obviously coming for a reason, and there isn’t much we can successfully accomplish to help these less fortunate countries before we help our own country. We could possibly create a quicker background check system for those coming from other countries that are good, hardworking people that just want to be able to provide a better lifestyle for their families. We are all just people trying our best and working our hardest to survive, and although I believe we need to get our country on its feet first, we need to look out for the rest of the world, too. As for the undocumented immigrants already in America, I believe that they should also have a series of background checks to determine whether or not they should be aloud to stay in America.

    • Madison_F_1

      I agree completely. “I believe we need to get our country on its feet first, we need to look out for the rest of the world, too.” This is a great way of saying it. Our country is always so worried about making the U.S look like a great place to be and a place with a great economy. But in reality, we are suffering. Not everyone realizes it yet, but we are. Although we shouldn’t forget about other countries, less fortunate or not, we shouldn’t forget about ourselves.

  • iymoni_M_4

    It’s a decent bill, looking at the number of undocumented workers. There are too many to send back, and many just wish to help their families or get a better education. With this bill the undocumented workers working under radar will be made legal, making their employers pay them minimum wage and pay the taxes for them. I like that those who came as children have a shorter time to get their green cards and it costs less, also agricultural labors. Because one didn’t really have choice, and the other works incredibly hard for a very low wag. And the education is improved, those who want to go to college can go apply without fear. However it does have it’s faults, as family is not focused. A spouse who isn’t legal, that came after December 2011 can be sent back. I do think that their should be a rule change for this. I don’t think families should be separated. Taking care of the ones here now is important, and setting
    guide lines but making it easier for the ones who want come is a great idea. All in all it’s a good
    bill.

  • iymoni_M_4

    It’s a decent bill, looking at the number of undocumented workers. There are too many to send back, and many just wish to help their families or get a better education. With this bill the undocumented workers working under radar will be made legal, making their employers pay them minimum wage and pay the taxes for them. I like that those who came as children have a shorter time to get their green cards and it costs less, also agricultural labors. Because one didn’t really have choice, and the other works incredibly hard for a very low wag. And the education is improved, those who want to go to college can go apply without fear. However it does have it’s faults, as family is not focused. A spouse who isn’t legal, that came after December 2011 can be sent back. I do think that their should be a rule change for this. I don’t think families should be separated. Taking care of the ones here now is important, and setting
    guide lines but making it easier for the ones who want come is a great idea. All in all it’s a good
    bill.

  • olivia_m_4

    I think that if someone wants to come to America, they should tell us how they could improve our country. We already have too many people here, too many mouths to feed, but if they have a skill or something that could really help us with as a country, I think that they should be at the top of our list to bring into the U.S.

    • Anant_K_4

      I can see where you are getting this point and how you feel. It seems completely reasonable and a very good idea. However, America was built on the motivation and idea that we are a country that gives freedom to anyone who wants it. We were built to take care of and aid the other countries (To a certain level). In my opinion, America is like the proving grounds. Many people are not born with the same opportunities as us. They will come and be given that opportunity which everyone deserves, and from there, they will see what level of success they have reached, and what ever it may be, they know that they deserve to be there.

  • olivia_m_4

    I think that if someone wants to come to America, they should tell us how they could improve our country. We already have too many people here, too many mouths to feed, but if they have a skill or something that could really help us with as a country, I think that they should be at the top of our list to bring into the U.S.

    • Anant_K_4

      I can see where you are getting this point and how you feel. It seems completely reasonable and a very good idea. However, America was built on the motivation and idea that we are a country that gives freedom to anyone who wants it. We were built to take care of and aid the other countries (To a certain level). In my opinion, America is like the proving grounds. Many people are not born with the same opportunities as us. They will come and be given that opportunity which everyone deserves, and from there, they will see what level of success they have reached, and what ever it may be, they know that they deserve to be there.

  • olivia_m_4

    My personal thought is that if a couple migrates to the U.S. and then has a child here, I think they should all be deported. Them being here is a crime; it’s illegal. Even though the child was born here and had no say in the matter, the child was technically brought here illegally. I don’t want families to get split up, so I think it’s either deport the parents, or deport all of them as a family.

    • megan_r_2

      @olivia_m_4 I agree with the fact that if we are going to deport the undocumented workers, we should move the whole family. But we don’t deport the US citizens that commit a crime, so it’s hard to say we should just deport all of them. I think those who actually want to stay in the US should stay. You have to remember that just because they are undocumented immigrants doesn’t mean they are bad.

    • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Gretta_H_1

      Olivia,
      All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
      —from the Fourteenth Amendment.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_in_the_United_States
      That child born in the U.S has rights and a citizenship from birth. They are put in the system to pay taxes as an adult and will grow up to give back to the country like you and I. Letting them stay here won’t hurt our economy or education systems because they will contribute and do their part in the community in a way their parents couldn’t. I don’t think they have done anything to be taken away.

    • Madeline_F_1

      @Olivia_M_4 I agree with your statement that we should deport the whole family back to where they came from because they are disobeying the law. I just don’t believe its a crime like @Megan_R_2 said “But we don’t deport the US citizens that commit a crime.” That statement is very true so I feel like they don’t belong here but we just need to find a more efficient way of deported them out of the country only if they are not trying to apply for a green card or citizenship.

  • olivia_m_4

    My personal thought is that if a couple migrates to the U.S. and then has a child here, I think they should all be deported. Them being here is a crime; it’s illegal. Even though the child was born here and had no say in the matter, the child was technically brought here illegally. I don’t want families to get split up, so I think it’s either deport the parents, or deport all of them as a family.

    • megan_r_2

      @olivia_m_4 I agree with the fact that if we are going to deport the undocumented workers, we should move the whole family. But we don’t deport the US citizens that commit a crime, so it’s hard to say we should just deport all of them. I think those who actually want to stay in the US should stay. You have to remember that just because they are undocumented immigrants doesn’t mean they are bad.

    • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Gretta_H_1

      Olivia,
      All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
      —from the Fourteenth Amendment.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship_in_the_United_States
      That child born in the U.S has rights and a citizenship from birth. They are put in the system to pay taxes as an adult and will grow up to give back to the country like you and I. Letting them stay here won’t hurt our economy or education systems because they will contribute and do their part in the community in a way their parents couldn’t. I don’t think they have done anything to be taken away.

    • Madeline_F_1

      @Olivia_M_4 I agree with your statement that we should deport the whole family back to where they came from because they are disobeying the law. I just don’t believe its a crime like @Megan_R_2 said “But we don’t deport the US citizens that commit a crime.” That statement is very true so I feel like they don’t belong here but we just need to find a more efficient way of deported them out of the country only if they are not trying to apply for a green card or citizenship.

  • Melissa_C_3

    I under stand that the point of passing this bill is to try to eliminate the amount of undocumented workers not paying taxes. They plan to do this by offering them an easier way to citizenship. In the the introduction paragraph 3 it say “To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years.” When you first read this you would think that this sounds great now undocumented workers are going to become citizens and start paying taxes. In a undocumented workers position they might not see it the same way. Considering the fact that as of now they are not paying taxes, do not have to pay fees to become a citizen, and they are still getting free health care. Why would they decide to become a citizen when they don’t really need to? What I think should happen is that they start in forcing immigration rules more. For example if you are caught knowingly hiring an undocumented worker you should be fined a large amount. This rule would have to be strongly in forced or else it will not work. After a law like this is passed people will be less likely to hire undocumented workers. Doing this will eliminate a large pull factor for undocumented workers to come to America illegally. If we slowly start getting rid of pull factors for them then less of them will want to come illegally. I know that we should reach out to these people but is that really our position to do that. Helping them could drag down our own economy. I think that Mexico needs to deal with there own problems we shouldn’t solve them for them.

  • Melissa_C_3

    I under stand that the point of passing this bill is to try to eliminate the amount of undocumented workers not paying taxes. They plan to do this by offering them an easier way to citizenship. In the the introduction paragraph 3 it say “To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years.” When you first read this you would think that this sounds great now undocumented workers are going to become citizens and start paying taxes. In a undocumented workers position they might not see it the same way. Considering the fact that as of now they are not paying taxes, do not have to pay fees to become a citizen, and they are still getting free health care. Why would they decide to become a citizen when they don’t really need to? What I think should happen is that they start in forcing immigration rules more. For example if you are caught knowingly hiring an undocumented worker you should be fined a large amount. This rule would have to be strongly in forced or else it will not work. After a law like this is passed people will be less likely to hire undocumented workers. Doing this will eliminate a large pull factor for undocumented workers to come to America illegally. If we slowly start getting rid of pull factors for them then less of them will want to come illegally. I know that we should reach out to these people but is that really our position to do that. Helping them could drag down our own economy. I think that Mexico needs to deal with there own problems we shouldn’t solve them for them.

  • Carlie_P_4

    I believe that the bill is unbalanced. People who are on the right path towards citizenship should not have to wait 10 years. They need to come up with something that is fair to all people who are trying to get a citizenship instead of making it easier for people who are here illegally.

    • Lauren_F_4

      @Carlie
      I agree with you, although I think that is a step that we may have to take in the future. With a goal as big as fixing illegal immigration, it is going to take many steps and laws to actually fix the whole problem. “Employers in Silicon Valley will be allowed more visas each year for high-skilled foreign workers, expanding the number of H1-B visas for high-tech workers from 65,000 to 110,000 per year and creating a new visa category for foreign entrepreneurs who want to start a business in the U.S.” We are already doing a lot of things with work visas, which will reduce the amount of illegal immigrants sufficiently.

  • Carlie_P_4

    I believe that the bill is unbalanced. People who are on the right path towards citizenship should not have to wait 10 years. They need to come up with something that is fair to all people who are trying to get a citizenship instead of making it easier for people who are here illegally.

    • Lauren_F_4

      @Carlie
      I agree with you, although I think that is a step that we may have to take in the future. With a goal as big as fixing illegal immigration, it is going to take many steps and laws to actually fix the whole problem. “Employers in Silicon Valley will be allowed more visas each year for high-skilled foreign workers, expanding the number of H1-B visas for high-tech workers from 65,000 to 110,000 per year and creating a new visa category for foreign entrepreneurs who want to start a business in the U.S.” We are already doing a lot of things with work visas, which will reduce the amount of illegal immigrants sufficiently.

  • megan_r_2

    I do completely agree with this idea. However if it still takes long to obtain a citizenship, there will still be more people coming over undocumented, if we do not seek greater border patrol. In order to fix the immigrant issues, I believe we need to get better border patrol and make those who are here undocumented documented.

    • Chinma_O_2

      @megan_r_2 I agree with you that the amount of time it takes to get your citizenship is much to long. Also that we should we need to get the illegal alien documented. But I don’t think that upgrading our border control will make the situation under control. People will still find a way in. Plus for people to want to come here there might be a problem the we are completely ignoring.

  • megan_r_2

    I do completely agree with this idea. However if it still takes long to obtain a citizenship, there will still be more people coming over undocumented, if we do not seek greater border patrol. In order to fix the immigrant issues, I believe we need to get better border patrol and make those who are here undocumented documented.

    • Chinma_O_2

      @megan_r_2 I agree with you that the amount of time it takes to get your citizenship is much to long. Also that we should we need to get the illegal alien documented. But I don’t think that upgrading our border control will make the situation under control. People will still find a way in. Plus for people to want to come here there might be a problem the we are completely ignoring.

  • http://newtech.com cory_c_4

    I really agree with this statement for the simple fact of knowing that it is a fair way to think, and it shouldn’t matter where your even from. People having fair shot at bettering themselves is a right that everybody should have, and it shouldn’t matter where they come from. I do not like how this bill even gives visas out based on the job your working in. The bill seems to not allow more advancement from the position you are already in, which is a minimum wage job that they can’t even better themselves by moving to desk job if possible. This is not showing equality, and I think and believe that parts of this bill can be modified in a different way.

  • http://newtech.com cory_c_4

    I really agree with this statement for the simple fact of knowing that it is a fair way to think, and it shouldn’t matter where your even from. People having fair shot at bettering themselves is a right that everybody should have, and it shouldn’t matter where they come from. I do not like how this bill even gives visas out based on the job your working in. The bill seems to not allow more advancement from the position you are already in, which is a minimum wage job that they can’t even better themselves by moving to desk job if possible. This is not showing equality, and I think and believe that parts of this bill can be modified in a different way.

  • sneha_k_3

    When first reading this article, I felt incredibly underwhelmed. There were few ideas mentioned, and even fewer that seemed significant enough to make an impact. After further research of the bill, I found several key points that the article failed to mention or provide detail to.

    By reading the discussion board, I see that many people are worried that the “10 years” required to “obtain a green card” is far too long, and I agree. What the article fails to mention is that green cards will be first issued to people that have been waiting in line, then to people who are in the United States illegally. This is an important detail, as it is making sure that those who violated immigration laws are not receiving favored treatment.

    Many people also mentioned doubt regarding this statement: “employers who hire undocumented workers will be prosecuted”. The bill outlines steps that the government will take to ensure that employers that hire undocumented workers are in fact prosecuted and I urge to research more about it.

    I have added a link of the framework of the bill for people to use as a resource: http://www.c-span.org/uploadedFiles/Content/Documents/Bipartisan-Framework-For-Immigration-Reform.pdf

  • sneha_k_3

    When first reading this article, I felt incredibly underwhelmed. There were few ideas mentioned, and even fewer that seemed significant enough to make an impact. After further research of the bill, I found several key points that the article failed to mention or provide detail to.

    By reading the discussion board, I see that many people are worried that the “10 years” required to “obtain a green card” is far too long, and I agree. What the article fails to mention is that green cards will be first issued to people that have been waiting in line, then to people who are in the United States illegally. This is an important detail, as it is making sure that those who violated immigration laws are not receiving favored treatment.

    Many people also mentioned doubt regarding this statement: “employers who hire undocumented workers will be prosecuted”. The bill outlines steps that the government will take to ensure that employers that hire undocumented workers are in fact prosecuted and I urge to research more about it.

    I have added a link of the framework of the bill for people to use as a resource: http://www.c-span.org/uploadedFiles/Content/Documents/Bipartisan-Framework-For-Immigration-Reform.pdf

  • http://newtech.com cory_c_4

    To be honest, I think that the new and improved bill will be a great improvement for immigration reform, but it will not solve all of the problems. It is good that they are allowing more people to be a citizen in the U.S, but I am not sure that the illegal immigrants should be able to gain citizenship because they went against the laws to get into this country. They also, probably won’t want to wait so many years in the first place , its so easy for them to stay here without getting caught and no penalty. But, the raised number of security on the border will surely be beneficial.

  • http://newtech.com cory_c_4

    To be honest, I think that the new and improved bill will be a great improvement for immigration reform, but it will not solve all of the problems. It is good that they are allowing more people to be a citizen in the U.S, but I am not sure that the illegal immigrants should be able to gain citizenship because they went against the laws to get into this country. They also, probably won’t want to wait so many years in the first place , its so easy for them to stay here without getting caught and no penalty. But, the raised number of security on the border will surely be beneficial.

  • http://newtech.com cory_c_4

    I still believe we need to make and improve an immigration reform that equalizes functions for all countries. The immigrants coming over here to the U.S. want to be coming for something, and what we are able to do about it is very limited, we need to find a way to accomplish and help these unfortunate countries before our country helps itself. I think that we could seriously create a better and faster background check system for people coming in from other countries that are not trying to harm us, loyal people that just want to be able to provide a better lifestyle for their families back wherever they came from. We are just people doing our best and working our hardest to survive in this country, and I do believe that the first thing that we need to do is get our country up and running, we also should try to help for the rest of the world, too. The undocumented immigrants that already live in America, should get a series of back round check to also make sure that they are not illegal and are allowed here

  • http://newtech.com cory_c_4

    I still believe we need to make and improve an immigration reform that equalizes functions for all countries. The immigrants coming over here to the U.S. want to be coming for something, and what we are able to do about it is very limited, we need to find a way to accomplish and help these unfortunate countries before our country helps itself. I think that we could seriously create a better and faster background check system for people coming in from other countries that are not trying to harm us, loyal people that just want to be able to provide a better lifestyle for their families back wherever they came from. We are just people doing our best and working our hardest to survive in this country, and I do believe that the first thing that we need to do is get our country up and running, we also should try to help for the rest of the world, too. The undocumented immigrants that already live in America, should get a series of back round check to also make sure that they are not illegal and are allowed here

  • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Gretta_H_1

    “..it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years” paragraph 4. Many people agree that waiting a full ten years for a green card and then three more to become a full citizen is much too long for people who need to immigrate. Most foreigners coming to the U.S need jobs asap to suport and provide better lives for their families. A thirteen year process is unappealing and unpractical for someone looking to start working or putting their children in the phenomenal education systems we have in the U.S. This is when they turn to illegal immigration, because waiting over a decade for citizenship isn’t an option with the conditions they are forced to live in.

    • http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/backgroundchecks/bradylaw Jane Catharine

      I completely agree to this! I feel like we’re just barely aiding illegal immigrants in their search for the American Dream. If we really wanted to speed up the process and create a better solution, we’d reduce the amount of time it takes but also be more selective about who is allowed to stay in our country. Speaking English and being semi-educated should be our primary concern, not how much work they can do for us. We want to give the people more opportunities to prosper, but we are dragging out the documentation while taking advantage of their cheap labor. We must create a more symbiotic relationship!

  • http://education.kqed.org/edspace/2013/04/19/do-now-75-immigration-reform-the-path-to-citizenship/ Gretta_H_1

    “..it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years” paragraph 4. Many people agree that waiting a full ten years for a green card and then three more to become a full citizen is much too long for people who need to immigrate. Most foreigners coming to the U.S need jobs asap to suport and provide better lives for their families. A thirteen year process is unappealing and unpractical for someone looking to start working or putting their children in the phenomenal education systems we have in the U.S. This is when they turn to illegal immigration, because waiting over a decade for citizenship isn’t an option with the conditions they are forced to live in.

    • http://www.bradycampaign.org/legislation/backgroundchecks/bradylaw Jane Catharine

      I completely agree to this! I feel like we’re just barely aiding illegal immigrants in their search for the American Dream. If we really wanted to speed up the process and create a better solution, we’d reduce the amount of time it takes but also be more selective about who is allowed to stay in our country. Speaking English and being semi-educated should be our primary concern, not how much work they can do for us. We want to give the people more opportunities to prosper, but we are dragging out the documentation while taking advantage of their cheap labor. We must create a more symbiotic relationship!

  • Anant_K_4

    This bill is a very big and good step into the vast sea of problems that are related to immigration. The bill is unbiased, as it states and advantage for both sides, and is very effective. It is shown that the bill addresses both sides in the article.
    “The American people have told us to do two things. One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration. And that’s what our bill does.”
    – Introduction — Paragraph 2
    I think this would certainly be a good bill to pass and that this will be a big step in solving this large issue. Like many other people are saying, immigration reform affects us (The citizens of the United States) because the immigrants obtain many jobs, however, do not pay taxes, which affects our economy. There are still going to be many immigrants illegally crossing the border, so we do need to strengthen the border patrol, however, to balance it out, make it much easier to become a citizen.

    • Skylar_G_3

      I agree with you when you say that we still have to strengthen the border patrol. If this bill gets passed, then it will more than likely open the floodgates. Immigrants will see the opportunity to get into the U.S without the fear of deportation. This is why it is still important to have border security. America, right now, is one of the most desirable countries to live in and if everyone is given access to it, it will soon become overcrowded and chaotic.
      I disagree though when you said that it was completely unbiased. I think it is great that they decided to compromise because otherwise nothing would have happened, but it is just that, a compromise. I don’t think that either party is perfectly happy because there are parts that are slightly biased. For example, the main idea, letting everyone become legal, is a mainly Democratic view and strengthening the border protection is a mainly Republican view.

  • Anant_K_4

    This bill is a very big and good step into the vast sea of problems that are related to immigration. The bill is unbiased, as it states and advantage for both sides, and is very effective. It is shown that the bill addresses both sides in the article.
    “The American people have told us to do two things. One, prevent future flows of illegal immigration, and then come up with a common sense solution for legal immigration. And that’s what our bill does.”
    – Introduction — Paragraph 2
    I think this would certainly be a good bill to pass and that this will be a big step in solving this large issue. Like many other people are saying, immigration reform affects us (The citizens of the United States) because the immigrants obtain many jobs, however, do not pay taxes, which affects our economy. There are still going to be many immigrants illegally crossing the border, so we do need to strengthen the border patrol, however, to balance it out, make it much easier to become a citizen.

    • Skylar_G_3

      I agree with you when you say that we still have to strengthen the border patrol. If this bill gets passed, then it will more than likely open the floodgates. Immigrants will see the opportunity to get into the U.S without the fear of deportation. This is why it is still important to have border security. America, right now, is one of the most desirable countries to live in and if everyone is given access to it, it will soon become overcrowded and chaotic.
      I disagree though when you said that it was completely unbiased. I think it is great that they decided to compromise because otherwise nothing would have happened, but it is just that, a compromise. I don’t think that either party is perfectly happy because there are parts that are slightly biased. For example, the main idea, letting everyone become legal, is a mainly Democratic view and strengthening the border protection is a mainly Republican view.

  • Maya_W__3

    I agree that we should let more people in to benefit us in certain things, but some immigrants won’t be as much help. It is good that people realize that our country is free and they can have more options here, but they do need to see that it would be better if they came here right. If they become citizens and not come illegally, they will realize how special that would be to go around saying “I’m committed to be a good citizen to the US and to serve my new country. We should consider too why these immigrants are coming over the border. That way, we could see if they would do well over here for a certain reason.
    There are also some bad things to this bill. If we have to many people over here, it would be hard to tell who the true immigrants are that want to be citizens. Illegal immigrants don’t stick out very well, and that is why we need to tone down the growth rate of immigrants. If they want to come over, we can let them have it, but only if they come legally and became US citizens.

  • Maya_W__3

    I agree that we should let more people in to benefit us in certain things, but some immigrants won’t be as much help. It is good that people realize that our country is free and they can have more options here, but they do need to see that it would be better if they came here right. If they become citizens and not come illegally, they will realize how special that would be to go around saying “I’m committed to be a good citizen to the US and to serve my new country. We should consider too why these immigrants are coming over the border. That way, we could see if they would do well over here for a certain reason.
    There are also some bad things to this bill. If we have to many people over here, it would be hard to tell who the true immigrants are that want to be citizens. Illegal immigrants don’t stick out very well, and that is why we need to tone down the growth rate of immigrants. If they want to come over, we can let them have it, but only if they come legally and became US citizens.

  • Troy K.

    This bill is the best option I’ve seen so far for regulations on immigration for the US. I agree completely on most of the proposed standards to enter the US legally for immigrants. I found that all of these terms are fair in some way for everybody, whether its for the immigrants or citizens. Although I don’t agree that undocumented immigrants have to wait so long to become a citizen, 13 years is far too long in my opinion. I think that around 5-7 years sounds fair to me because it roughly takes that long to become settled in with a job and a home. I may not know all that much about immigration policies because I’m only 18 but the way I see it, I wouldn’t be able to come up with a plan for immigration as good as this one that would appeal to both sides of the coin.

  • Troy K.

    This bill is the best option I’ve seen so far for regulations on immigration for the US. I agree completely on most of the proposed standards to enter the US legally for immigrants. I found that all of these terms are fair in some way for everybody, whether its for the immigrants or citizens. Although I don’t agree that undocumented immigrants have to wait so long to become a citizen, 13 years is far too long in my opinion. I think that around 5-7 years sounds fair to me because it roughly takes that long to become settled in with a job and a home. I may not know all that much about immigration policies because I’m only 18 but the way I see it, I wouldn’t be able to come up with a plan for immigration as good as this one that would appeal to both sides of the coin.

  • Alex_T_#3

    I believe immigration reforme is needed and I like this plan. I think 10 years to get a green card is appropriate because that’s what every one ells has so do to become a citizen. Before I totally approve it, I would like to know more on the other side of the compromise, the border. I would like to know if they want to do a fence or add more people, motion censers, cameras, or what ever they are doing. I would like to have a fence I think that would do a good job, but I think it is too much money foe a fence they way America builds there fences.

    • Ryan_F_3

      @ Alex_T_#3 – ” I would like to know if they want to do a fence or add more people, motion censers, cameras, or what ever they are doing. ”

      In my opinion adding more people and equipement would provide A LOT more protection for America rather than a fence because people that want to get into America will try anything. Such as digging underground tunnels or finding more ways then we could have imagined. If we have more people to watch and make sure they won’t do these things then we will not have as many illegal immigrants crossing the border.

  • Alex_T_#3

    I believe immigration reforme is needed and I like this plan. I think 10 years to get a green card is appropriate because that’s what every one ells has so do to become a citizen. Before I totally approve it, I would like to know more on the other side of the compromise, the border. I would like to know if they want to do a fence or add more people, motion censers, cameras, or what ever they are doing. I would like to have a fence I think that would do a good job, but I think it is too much money foe a fence they way America builds there fences.

  • Alex_T_#3

    I believe immigration reforme is needed and I like this plan. I think 10 years to get a green card is appropriate because that’s what every one ells has so do to become a citizen. Before I totally approve it, I would like to know more on the other side of the compromise, the border. I would like to know if they want to do a fence or add more people, motion censers, cameras, or what ever they are doing. I would like to have a fence I think that would do a good job, but I think it is too much money foe a fence they way America builds there fences.

    • Ryan_F_3

      @ Alex_T_#3 – ” I would like to know if they want to do a fence or add more people, motion censers, cameras, or what ever they are doing. ”

      In my opinion adding more people and equipement would provide A LOT more protection for America rather than a fence because people that want to get into America will try anything. Such as digging underground tunnels or finding more ways then we could have imagined. If we have more people to watch and make sure they won’t do these things then we will not have as many illegal immigrants crossing the border.

  • Madeline_F_1

    There are major changes that need to be made to immigration reform. We have millions of undocumented workers and more and more finding a way in the United States. So we come to the conclusion that they are coming here for a reason, which unfortunately is are effecting our economy. I feel that if we take more background checks on the undocumented immigrants that they will either find it too hard to get a green card or they will find another way to stay. So investing in more border potrol would be helpful by keeping some of the new undocumented workers from getting in our country.”11 million undocumented immigrants to seek U.S. citizenship, in exchange for way stricter border security standards,”(paragraph 1 article above) So there for in the future businesses and people are not lying to the government so much about hiring undocumented workers.

  • Madeline_F_1

    There are major changes that need to be made to immigration reform. We have millions of undocumented workers and more and more finding a way in the United States. So we come to the conclusion that they are coming here for a reason, which unfortunately is are effecting our economy. I feel that if we take more background checks on the undocumented immigrants that they will either find it too hard to get a green card or they will find another way to stay. So investing in more border potrol would be helpful by keeping some of the new undocumented workers from getting in our country.”11 million undocumented immigrants to seek U.S. citizenship, in exchange for way stricter border security standards,”(paragraph 1 article above) So there for in the future businesses and people are not lying to the government so much about hiring undocumented workers.

  • anastacia_b_2

    For the most part, I completely agree with this bill. It’s a very fair, and very logical bill that in my opinion, should be passed very easily. However, I believe that they should find a way to make any immigrant that comes into the United States with the hope of becoming a citizen should be eligible for this bill, even IF they did not come over by the deadline. The United States is a country that people want to come too, and if we allow some people to become a citizen yet deny the right of others, that’s not the message that we should be sending across to other aspiring US citizens. I also believe that 13 years is an entirely too long of an amount of time to wait for your citizenship. I can only imagine what it would feel like living in a country, and feeling like a citizen, and feeling like I belong, but knowing that I don’t, and knowing that I am not the citizen that I want to be.

  • anastacia_b_2

    For the most part, I completely agree with this bill. It’s a very fair, and very logical bill that in my opinion, should be passed very easily. However, I believe that they should find a way to make any immigrant that comes into the United States with the hope of becoming a citizen should be eligible for this bill, even IF they did not come over by the deadline. The United States is a country that people want to come too, and if we allow some people to become a citizen yet deny the right of others, that’s not the message that we should be sending across to other aspiring US citizens. I also believe that 13 years is an entirely too long of an amount of time to wait for your citizenship. I can only imagine what it would feel like living in a country, and feeling like a citizen, and feeling like I belong, but knowing that I don’t, and knowing that I am not the citizen that I want to be.

  • Elisabeth_S_3

    My views on this article are mixed. On one hand, I appreciate the efforts that the government is making to prevent illegal immigration. This bill is a small step in the progression of reform to repair the economy of the United States, and I feel as if few people will have a definite objection to all of it. It is a minor move in the right direction, but still an important one.

    That being said, I do believe that parts of it are not going to benefit us. “However, only immigrants who came to the country before Dec. 31, 2011 can apply. To process the application undocumented immigrants will have to pay $500 plus assessed taxes, as well as processing fees and then it would take 10 years to obtain a green card. Gaining full citizenship would take another three years.” I do not agree with the rule that anyone who immigrated here before December 31, 2011 is eligible for the benefit of this bill. Why are they given different rights than an immigrant who came here on Jan. 1, 2012? If they both committed a crime, why does it matter what day it was committed on?

    Second of all, this process for illegal immigrants is near the process for naturalization of legal immigrants. Based on what I’ve read, a green card for a legal immigrant is valid for 10 years, and somewhere during that time