Comments on: NASA: 2009 Tied for Second-Warmest Year

By: Steve Bloom

Steve Bloom — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 20:20:41 +0000

But Russ, why do you believe someone like Bob Tisdale, who is after all just a retired guy with right-wing politics and no relevant scientific training or experience? Oh wait…

Most glaciers are losing mass, Dixon, and at an increasing pace. The rare exceptions are pretty much all due to precipitation increases temporarily overcoming the melting.

By: Dixon Cruickshank

Dixon Cruickshank — Sun, 24 Jan 2010 17:54:05 +0000

By the way – glaciers have receding for many years or we wouldn’t be having a football games in Minnasota, I have also heard upstae NY was pretty covered up too. On the point of water – if they are not melting there is no water to feed those rivers that supply all those billions over there – so we better hope they keep melting wouldn’t you say ???

“We pointed out a few (very few) in the West that are “bucking the trend” but these are anomalies.”

Why should it be considered an anomalie that they are growing? Could say the same thing about them retreating – which one the anomalie?

Melting glacers are a good thing – they provide water to rivers and lakes, if their not melting we are probably close to freezing to death – just say’in

By: Russell Steele

Russell Steele — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 16:26:52 +0000

Last November Bob Tisdale predicted that GISS will exploit warmer temperatures and those who do not understand the reason for the warming will believe them.

Global Temperatures This Decade Will Be The Warmest On Record…
…And It Will Be Exploited By Those Who Fail To Understand The Reasons For The Rise Details here: http://bobtisdale.blogspot.com/2009/11/global-temperatures-this-decade-will-be.html

By: Russell Steele

Russell Steele — Fri, 22 Jan 2010 01:34:35 +0000

“Glaciers do not have any political agenda,” said Thompson. “They just sum up what’s happening in the environment and they retreat or react to that en masse.”

Yea, it is only the climate scientist with a political agenda, who are hiding their data, as we we found out in the Climategate e-mails.

“Thompson affirmed that while it’s difficult to put a specific timetable on the disappearance of glaciers, the scientific evidence documenting glacier recession is overwhelming. Research indicates that more than 90% of the world’s glaciers are receding, he said, including approximately 95% of the glaciers in the Himalayas.

Yes, but the question is, are the glaciers declining because of some thing that hmans are responsible for, or because we are emerging from the Little Ice Age? Tompson has been reluctant to share his data with thired parties for validation of his findings that humans are responsible. Steve McIntyre at Climate Audit has made numerious requests for the data and has been stone walled by Thompson. Replication is the holy grail of science, so who has been able to replicate Tompson’s results. Really, was it by his friends or by an independent third party? I would really like to know, maybe KQED can find the answer?

By: Craig Miller

Craig Miller — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 22:22:06 +0000

I know of no credible source saying that glaciers anywhere are “doing fine.” We pointed out a few (very few) in the West that are “bucking the trend” but these are anomalies. Likewise in the Himalayas, researchers have documented that 90% of glaciers are shrinking (see Lonnie Thompson’s comments in today’s post).

By: Dixon Cruickshank

Dixon Cruickshank — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:35:38 +0000

OT again kinda but I don’t see the polar bear thread any more – Hey bloomer you trashed that guy that hung out with them that he was nuts, how about these guys – they kinda live there. Maybe go spend a few months up there and let them show you around, just leave these peoiple alone = rent seeking carpetbagger

http://www.tunngavik.com/2009/10/01/inuit-say-baffin-bay-polar-bear-population-is-not-decreasing/

By: Russell Steele

Russell Steele — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:39:10 +0000

The report said — “In the Southern Hemisphere, 2009 set the record as the warmest year, according to this report.” Really?

Bob Tisdale shows us that GISS is once again, “way out there” in 2009 compared to other global temperature data sets. The other data sets do not show the SH warming. Why does the GISS report show it? Details here on Tisdale’s analysis:
http://bobtisdale.blogspot.com/2010/01/was-2009-warmest-year-on-record-in.html

By: Dixon Cruickshank

Dixon Cruickshank — Thu, 21 Jan 2010 05:29:43 +0000

OK guys this may be a bit off topic but not much based on the point Russ made – which is valid in the scientific world.
My first post here was on your Glacier article, that it appeared west coast glaciers were acting different than the rest because they were all growing.
I would like a comment on the new Glacier news regarding India – it appears your glaciers are not the only ones doing fine – just say’in.

Tell you the honest truth – nobody believes any of these guys anymore, you just can’t, some new adjustment stuff every week – unless your dumber than a stump

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Wed, 20 Jan 2010 21:47:13 +0000

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By: Russell Steele

Russell Steele — Wed, 20 Jan 2010 00:00:24 +0000

Really? I think we should we review this GISS report with same confidence that we would review a CRU report after Climategate. With lots of skepticism!

It seems the GISS temperature readings were adjusted six times after analysis in July 1999 indicated that the temperature anomaly for 1934 was nearly 60% higher than for 1998.

An FOIA request by Judicial Watch has landed 215 pages of GISS emails related to errors in handling temperature data from 2000 to 2006 that overstated the temperature increase during that period. You can find a searchable data base of the GISS E-mails here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/01/18/searchable-pdf-created-for-nasa-giss-foia-documents/

One of the emails reveals the details of the seven different sets of numbers calculated by GISS researchers. It appears the GISS team was under pressure to make 1998 the warmest year in the 150 years that thermometer readings have been available.

There are also questions about the adjustments the GISS makes to the data, lowering past temperatures to make current temperatures appear warmer, which I will cover in a future post